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kessah Blood Corsair's	Posted - 2007.10.05 12:03:00 - [151] doesnt seem feasible to me, with the time factor as it is, repping that much armour becus of sentry hits is just poor idea to me. I dislike plate station hugger setup's there slightly borderline lame to me. Il think il side on the Active tank on this ship, its what im used to - Ion's or Electrons though :/ Be nice not to have to faction this ship out. -------------------------------------------------------- [Video] Forever Pirate 3
Wolkow III	Posted - 2007.10.07 05:19:00 - [152] Edited by: Wolkow III on 07/10/2007 05:19:28 7x Heavy Neutron Blaster II w/ Void M 1x Heavy Diminishing Power System Drain I 1x Heavy Electrochemical Capacitor Booster I w/800 1x Warp Disruptor II 1x X5 Prototype I Engine Enervator 1x Quad LiF Fueled I Booster Rockets 2x Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II 1x Damage Control II 2x Magnetic Field Stabilizer II 2x Large Armor Repairer II 2x Trimark Armor Pump I 1x Anti-Explosive Pump I 5x Ogre II 7453 shield, 9.32/s, E/T/K/Ex=12/29/47/64 10978 armor, E/T/K/Ex=77/63/63/60 5273.4375 cap, +14.92/s, -153.249/s 1003.0 m/s Quickfit says it fits without implants ... 23.75CPU left. I have AWU4 and WU5. Discuss.
Zubakis Bambooule TALIONIS ALLIANCE	Posted - 2007.10.07 08:09:00 - [153] Originally by: Wolkow III Edited by: Wolkow III on 07/10/2007 05:19:28 7x Heavy Neutron Blaster II w/ Void M 1x Heavy Diminishing Power System Drain I 1x Heavy Electrochemical Capacitor Booster I w/800 1x Warp Disruptor II 1x X5 Prototype I Engine Enervator 1x Quad LiF Fueled I Booster Rockets 2x Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II 1x Damage Control II 2x Magnetic Field Stabilizer II 2x Large Armor Repairer II 2x Trimark Armor Pump I 1x Anti-Explosive Pump I 5x Ogre II 7453 shield, 9.32/s, E/T/K/Ex=12/29/47/64 10978 armor, E/T/K/Ex=77/63/63/60 5273.4375 cap, +14.92/s, -153.249/s 1003.0 m/s Quickfit says it fits without implants ... 23.75CPU left. I have AWU4 and WU5. Discuss. Nothing to discuss. Doesn't fit. -- Zuba
Theron Gyrow Gradient Electus Matari	Posted - 2007.10.07 11:14:00 - [154] Originally by: Wolkow III Edited by: Wolkow III on 07/10/2007 05:19:28 7x Heavy Neutron Blaster II w/ Void M 1x Heavy Diminishing Power System Drain I 1x Heavy Electrochemical Capacitor Booster I w/800 1x Warp Disruptor II 1x X5 Prototype I Engine Enervator 1x Quad LiF Fueled I Booster Rockets 2x Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II 1x Damage Control II 2x Magnetic Field Stabilizer II 2x Large Armor Repairer II 2x Trimark Armor Pump I 1x Anti-Explosive Pump I 5x Ogre II 7453 shield, 9.32/s, E/T/K/Ex=12/29/47/64 10978 armor, E/T/K/Ex=77/63/63/60 5273.4375 cap, +14.92/s, -153.249/s 1003.0 m/s Quickfit says it fits without implants ... 23.75CPU left. I have AWU4 and WU5. Discuss. Medium blasters on Blasterthron is a crime of epic proportions. If you want to tank it, use electrons. -- Gradient forum
Zubakis Bambooule TALIONIS ALLIANCE	Posted - 2007.10.07 11:41:00 - [155] Oh, didnt even saw that was medium blaster, then this setup is utter crap. -- Zuba
Wolkow III	Posted - 2007.10.07 17:07:00 - [156] Err it seemed too easy...I hate plates, hate hate hate... so I came up with this: 7X Neutron Blaster Cannon II [80xVoid L] 1x Heavy Electrochemical Capacitor Booster I 1x Warp Disruptor II 1x X5 Prototype I Engine Enervator 1x Quad LiF Fueled I Booster Rockets 2x MFS II 2X EANM II 1X DC II 1x LAR II 1x Dark Blood PDU Ancillary Current Router I Algid Hybrid Administrations Unit I Anti-Explosive Pump I 5x Ogre II 7825 shield, 10.69/s, E/T/K/Ex=12/29/47/64 8301 armor, E/T/K/Ex=77/63/63/60 5537.109123542905 cap, +17.12/s, -130.639/s 1003.0 m/s 743.8 DPS fits with 0.67cpu left I got insane DPS, and I can repair in-between fights, and have acceptable resists. Better?
Eiris LFC	Posted - 2007.10.08 12:43:00 - [157] Say I use an active rep tank with 1 large repper and a Tri armor pump and Auxiliary nano pump as rigs. What repper would you say is the best one? Yuuki - Hokori
kessah Blood Corsair's	Posted - 2007.10.08 18:08:00 - [158] see id rather use Ion's and fit dual LAR tank, instead of a Neutron + LAR and the use of the expensive RCU rig. 7x Ion's II 1x MWD II 1x Web (x5 / langour) 1x WD (32 cpu) 1x Electro Chem 2x LAR's II or Accom's and a t2 WD, its a pain hunting on matari gates. 2x MFS II 1x Exp Plating II 1x DMC IFFA 1x EANM II 1x Therm 1x Explosive 1x Kin 4x Orge's/Beserkers II 5x Warriors II all Resistance between 70 - 76%, does alright by me so far. Id love though to drop the resistance rigs for 3x CCC rigs and still have some nice resistance. Owell. Bring a friend in a guardian i suppose -------------------------------------------------------- [Video] Forever Pirate 3
tiptip Red Dwarf Mining Corporation	Posted - 2007.10.12 21:13:00 - [159] this is what i fit its a bit of a beast 1v1 7 x neutron blasters T2 t2 void 1x arbalest rocket launcher with defenders 1 x heavy cap booster T2 1 web 1 x target painter or 20k scram 1 x 100 mwd T2 2 x large armor repare T2 have 920 repare over 9.5 secs 3 X hardners T2 2x rcu T2 drones 5 x t2 wasps rigs 1 auxiliary pump 1 nanobot accelerator 1 algid hybrid administration unit 1 i drink bud so dont get in the way of my hand mouth of bottle
MR Wa1sh	Posted - 2007.10.14 08:54:00 - [160] Edited by: MR Wa1sh on 14/10/2007 08:55:14 My first Mega - haven't finished training the skills yet but will have it up and running in a day or two. Using this thread and other's like and counting in my skills concerning cap & power-grid issues. Hi- 7x Regulated Ion Blasters 1x Heavy missle launcher Med- 1x Cap recharger II 1x Heavy cap booster 1x Langour Web 1x j5 warp dissruptor lows- 1x large 'Accommodation' rep 1x Med 'Accommodation" rep 3x N-type active hardeners (therm,ken,expl) 1x damage control II 1x Mag Feild stab II This i believe lets me run a descent for a descent ammount of time with good firepower. Any suggestions welcome as i am new to amour tanking. thanx Edited for spelling :P
Gladiator Jonny Repo Industries	Posted - 2007.10.14 08:57:00 - [161] loose the recharger. get an mwd. ok fit ;) probabily drop the med rep for a 1600 plate.
MR Wa1sh	Posted - 2007.10.14 10:45:00 - [162] the Plate gives me more hit points but a can tank less damage before needing to use them. as for the MWD that will eat cap like nothing els and my cap only last 2mins after the Boosters (800's) runout anyhow.
MITSUK0	Posted - 2007.10.14 11:01:00 - [163] Originally by: MR Wa1sh Edited by: MR Wa1sh on 14/10/2007 10:48:39 the Plate gives me more hit points but a can tank less damage before needing to use them. as for the MWD that will eat cap like nothing els and my cap only last 2mins after the Boosters (800's) runout anyhow. i supposs it would be handy if i land 30 out from them .... is it worth the cap cost ? Yes oh god yes YES Dont fly mega's without mwd's unless you know for a fact your gonna be warping in on a webbed target at 0km every time.
MR Wa1sh	Posted - 2007.10.14 11:05:00 - [164] ok ^^ :P
MR Wa1sh	Posted - 2007.10.14 11:10:00 - [165] Edited by: MR Wa1sh on 14/10/2007 11:10:59 And cap issues ? maby if i get one of those control circuit rigs to help replace the recharger II ? I have friends telling me over my shoulder that the only way to tank this is duel Armour reps with either 2 large or 1 large 1 med - this leaves no room for MWD in power grid or cap usage ? is the 1600 mm plate really a good tanking option ? or is a the two reps better ? i mean more hit points from the plate or better DPS tanking from duel reps ?
Na'hkin Oaks	Posted - 2007.11.03 11:19:00 - [166] Going to try this out sometime, worked nicely on the test server so far. Hi: 7x modal mega ion's [fed antimatter] 1x medium named neut Med: named 100mn mwd warp disruptor II x5 web heavy cap booster II [800's] Lows: lar II 3x active hardeners 2x mfs II 1x dcu II 5x oger II's 2x aux nano pump rigs acording to eft it does 892 dps, you can put 5 modal neuts on but there too expensive :) that takes the dps of it to about 950ish
Lux Exterior Gallente Critical Analysis Te-Ka	Posted - 2007.11.03 11:42:00 - [167] Originally by: Na'hkin Oaks Going to try this out sometime, worked nicely on the test server so far. Hi: 7x modal mega ion's [fed antimatter] 1x medium named neut Med: named 100mn mwd warp disruptor II x5 web heavy cap booster II [800's] Lows: lar II 3x active hardeners 2x mfs II 1x dcu II 5x oger II's 2x aux nano pump rigs acording to eft it does 892 dps, you can put 5 modal neuts on but there too expensive :) that takes the dps of it to about 950ish that is the fit i have except i use 2 x faction EANM and another magstab with an explosive pump, nano pump and a nanobot accelerator. I use a medium nos instead of the neut. Good setup.
Anakin Walkskyer	Posted - 2007.11.16 01:49:00 - [168] Edited by: Anakin Walkskyer on 16/11/2007 01:53:12 Originally by: Adrian Kerensky At the moment I'm using: Hi: 7x Ions Meds: MWD (named), 20km scram, X5 web, nanochemical injector (800s) Lows: 2x Large Acom Reps, 3x T2 EANM, 2x T2 Heatsink What kind of skills ya need to fit that because i can barely fir the injector on there? Dronebay: 4x Beserkers, 5x T2 Warriors Seems to work ok. Anyone got any criticisms/changes? How would you go about fitting a full rack of neutrons without completely gimping everything? What kind of skills yah need to fit that i get to like injectors and im out of grid?
Stephannus Calimben mUfFiN fAcToRy	Posted - 2007.11.22 19:38:00 - [169] what about this setup? (EFT all V no implants) high:7x modal mega ion (with faction antimatter) mid:quad lif rocket, 24km point, fleeting web, electro chem (800s) low: 2x LARII, 2xEANMII,DCI, 2xMFSII rig: 3x aux nano pump 5x ogre II 1026 dps resists are 80/67.6/67.6/55.1 440 sustained, 619 reinforced lasts 3m33s problem with this fit is i can't fit a NOS, but with the nos nerf is it really that huge a deal? ______________ ...mmm fire... ______________
Si Delane Sector 7 Visions of Warfare	Posted - 2007.11.22 19:51:00 - [170] EFT + Cap Injectors: How many 800s can a thron hold anyway? Sure your tank might last 3m+ according to EFT, but how long into those 3 minutes have you burned through all your charges (running LARx2+blasters = wow that's using a lot of cap) ------------------------- Actually this IS my main.
Trevor Warps	Posted - 2007.11.22 20:08:00 - [171] Ion + dual reps setup are IMO good for engaging many targets or smaller size, all teamed up they do good dmg but you can pick em out somewhat quickly and tank ok with your 2 reps for a short while. Agaisnt hvy tank BS tho ... I find the ions short on dmg, especially with the tanking rigs and tier 3 BS. Actually against a tier 3 BS rigged i wouldnt even try with a Mega, but what I am trying to say is that neutrons would be better for that kidn of work.
Stephannus Calimben mUfFiN fAcToRy	Posted - 2007.11.22 20:18:00 - [172] Originally by: Si Delane EFT + Cap Injectors: How many 800s can a thron hold anyway? Sure your tank might last 3m+ according to EFT, but how long into those 3 minutes have you burned through all your charges (running LARx2+blasters = wow that's using a lot of cap) no injector, no nos, and 1 repper lasts 2 minutes with 2 reppers and injector (no nos) that 3m39s translates into 3.77injector reloads at 4 charges each, so 15ish charges thats 4 in the injector, 11 in the hold, or 1100 m3... lol crap point taken. med nos helps a bit tho... Quote: Ion + dual reps setup are IMO good for engaging many targets or smaller size, all teamed up they do good dmg but you can pick em out somewhat quickly and tank ok with your 2 reps for a short while. Agaisnt hvy tank BS tho ... I find the ions short on dmg, especially with the tanking rigs and tier 3 BS. Actually against a tier 3 BS rigged i wouldnt even try with a Mega, but what I am trying to say is that neutrons would be better for that kidn of work. i'm thinking about gatecamping for this one though, so the range has to be close to 15 km preferably to minimize effort ______________ ...mmm fire... ______________
Kailiao The Black Fleet The Cosa Nostra	Posted - 2007.11.22 21:14:00 - [173] Imho, there is no outher way to fit this ship for pvp than this High: 7 Neutron Teck 2's Med: Domi mwd, 24k scram, Domi web, Heavy cap injecter Low: 3 Faction mag stabs, 3 1600mm plates, teck 2 dam control Rigs: 3 Trimark armor pumps Drones: 5 ogre 2's, or a mix of med ecm, and hammerhead 2's Implants: %5 to large turret dam, %5 to all turret dam, Full slave set Dam Mod: 11.7 Rof: 4 seconds Armor: 56,000 True it's a do or die set-up, and ew is a big problem, but there is no ship below capital that can tank your dam, unless it's fully officer fitted.
Stephannus Calimben mUfFiN fAcToRy	Posted - 2007.11.22 22:46:00 - [174] Originally by: Kailiao Imho, there is no outher way to fit this ship for pvp than this High: 7 Neutron Teck 2's Med: Domi mwd, 24k scram, Domi web, Heavy cap injecter Low: 3 Faction mag stabs, 3 1600mm plates, teck 2 dam control Rigs: 3 Trimark armor pumps Drones: 5 ogre 2's, or a mix of med ecm, and hammerhead 2's Implants: %5 to large turret dam, %5 to all turret dam, Full slave set Dam Mod: 11.7 Rof: 4 seconds Armor: 56,000 True it's a do or die set-up, and ew is a big problem, but there is no ship below capital that can tank your dam, unless it's fully officer fitted. no, but a rook could jam you out and a nos/neut domi with 10m in fittings and 3m sp could suck your cap dry and slowly kill you with his t1 drones. ______________ ...mmm fire... ______________
Kailiao The Black Fleet The Cosa Nostra	Posted - 2007.11.22 23:42:00 - [175] Originally by: Stephannus Calimben Originally by: Kailiao Imho, there is no outher way to fit this ship for pvp than this High: 7 Neutron Teck 2's Med: Domi mwd, 24k scram, Domi web, Heavy cap injecter Low: 3 Faction mag stabs, 3 1600mm plates, teck 2 dam control Rigs: 3 Trimark armor pumps Drones: 5 ogre 2's, or a mix of med ecm, and hammerhead 2's Implants: %5 to large turret dam, %5 to all turret dam, Full slave set Dam Mod: 11.7 Rof: 4 seconds Armor: 56,000 True it's a do or die set-up, and ew is a big problem, but there is no ship below capital that can tank your dam, unless it's fully officer fitted. no, but a rook could jam you out and a nos/neut domi with 10m in fittings and 3m sp could suck your cap dry and slowly kill you with his t1 drones. will be the same out-come with a tanked mega, so what's your point?
Theron Gyrow Gradient Electus Matari	Posted - 2007.11.23 07:48:00 - [176] Originally by: Kailiao Low: 3 Faction mag stabs, 3 1600mm plates, teck 2 dam control Unless you are really starved for CPU (in which case use a -turret CPU implant), you get more durabflity, agility and speed by switching one plate to EANM2. Also remote reps are more effective on you. -- Gradient forum
Bellum Eternus Gallente Death of Virtue	Posted - 2007.11.23 10:32:00 - [177] Originally by: Kailiao Originally by: Stephannus Calimben Originally by: Kailiao Imho, there is no outher way to fit this ship for pvp than this High: 7 Neutron Teck 2's Med: Domi mwd, 24k scram, Domi web, Heavy cap injecter Low: 3 Faction mag stabs, 3 1600mm plates, teck 2 dam control Rigs: 3 Trimark armor pumps Drones: 5 ogre 2's, or a mix of med ecm, and hammerhead 2's Implants: %5 to large turret dam, %5 to all turret dam, Full slave set Dam Mod: 11.7 Rof: 4 seconds Armor: 56,000 True it's a do or die set-up, and ew is a big problem, but there is no ship below capital that can tank your dam, unless it's fully officer fitted. no, but a rook could jam you out and a nos/neut domi with 10m in fittings and 3m sp could suck your cap dry and slowly kill you with his t1 drones. will be the same out-come with a tanked mega, so what's your point? LOL. Tons of BS can out tank a gank Mega like the above setup. Easily. Particularly if you don't have the drones to contribute 350 dps. (5x Ogre IIs w/ max skills) Bellum Eternus [Vid] L E G E N D A R Y [Vid] L E G E N D A R Y I I
Slave Master Amarr Viziam	Posted - 2007.11.23 12:20:00 - [178] I don't know much about blasterthrons to be honest, but has anyone ever tried a blaster-apoc? The extra cap ability of the apoc means capacitor usage isn't as much of an issue, and while they have the same slots 8/4/7 the apoc has significantly more powergrid and cpu. I guess the real question is whether or not the apoc can hit anything without the tracking bonus the megathron has. So has anyone tried it? Could it work?
Ocaud AirHawk Alliance Rule of Three	Posted - 2007.11.23 19:32:00 - [179] Unless they've made a change I am unaware of, amarr bs bonus to capacitor is for energy weapons only.
Slave Master Amarr Viziam	Posted - 2007.11.23 23:35:00 - [180] Apoc gets 10% reduction to energy weapon use per level (obviously no use) but it also gets 5% bonus to total capacitor per level. I'm sure the 25% extra cap would be very valuable to this type of setup.

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