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R4z0r	Posted - 2006.08.06 12:43:00 - [1] Edited by: R4z0r on 06/08/2006 12:44:40 Well I haven't really set the best reputation in the forums but im intrested to know one thing ! Is eve really worth the fee's? I have been playing guild wars for hundreds of hours and I have sucked dry all the fun and interest within the game :( ! Then I found eve online, a new dimension of online gaming and so many things to do, from farming to fighting online agaisnt REAL people for once and also looting, joining corps, missions and there is too many things for me to say ... but from my point of view I think the fee's are bloody worth it ! And I was wondering if you could post you're thoughts on what I have said ... im just curious to what people will think and what you say about EVE online. Thanks for reading P.S - sorry for my poor and inadequate entrance and first appearance with the forums !
Magic Trev Omerta Syndicate Exuro Mortis	Posted - 2006.08.06 12:46:00 - [2] if people didnt think it was worth the fees they wouldnt have an account and therefore anyone that dosent think its worth the fees wont be replying to this thread. [/WIN]. ----------------------
Dark Shikari Caldari Imperium Technologies Firmus Ixion	Posted - 2006.08.06 12:46:00 - [3] Its worth every cent. In fact, it'll save you money, because you won't spend a cent on other games either --Proud member of the [23]-- -WTS Heavy Electron II, 100mn AB II
Hast Destructive Influence Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.08.06 12:47:00 - [4] its not, quit and give me your stuff
Mtthias Clemi Gallente Celestial Horizon Corp. Ascendant Frontier	Posted - 2006.08.06 12:47:00 - [5] congrats on the name btw... Definatly, no toehr game like it.. i started playing Gw recently and i really got bored fast, the amount of freedom you have in eve is just amazing, no other MMo even coms close.
Mtthias Clemi Gallente Celestial Horizon Corp. Ascendant Frontier	Posted - 2006.08.06 12:48:00 - [6] Originally by: Magic Trev if people didnt think it was worth the fees they wouldnt have an account and therefore anyone that dosent think its worth the fees wont be replying to this thread. [/WIN]. You would be suprised... you not seen the more recent complainomania threads? [/NO WIN]
Magic Trev Omerta Syndicate Exuro Mortis	Posted - 2006.08.06 12:49:00 - [7] people can complain about eve but at the end of they still play and pay so it would all add up to them thinking its worth the sub fees [/RE-COMMENCE WIN] ----------------------
Tar Ecthelion Kryomek Industries	Posted - 2006.08.06 12:52:00 - [8] EVE = time sink = less time to spend money on anything else = money saver = no life = you`ll die rich ..... "When you kill a man it costs nothing to be polite" Winston Churchill
Tachy	Posted - 2006.08.06 12:56:00 - [9] No. It isn't. hides nearly four years of personal history in EVE --==*-- Even with nougat, you can have a perfect moment.
R4z0r	Posted - 2006.08.06 12:57:00 - [10] Well thnx for the replies ... I think im gonna buy some GTC, well really cause its amazing and I cant really describe what I mean ... EVE is sometimes unreal, what really hits me is the fact of how big the game is ... so many gates, systems, stations and players .. I think eve will be hitting my top 10 games probably number 1 and my hours will be 1000+ All I need now is some cash only 15, but i'll scratch up all my cash
Neku	Posted - 2006.08.06 12:58:00 - [11] ABSOLUTELY.

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Jim McGregor Caldari	Posted - 2006.08.06 13:01:00 - [13] Eve has no /dance command, so its a tough question... Seriously. Yes it is. --- Eve Wiki \| Eve Tribune \| Eve Pirate
R4z0r	Posted - 2006.08.06 13:03:00 - [14] well that makes me feel VERY good, oh btw guys, when I buy a GTC of a website, and they email it to me, does it activate straight away ? cause im on holiday and I want tobuy one now before I spend it all on crap from markets and food ! :S help :P
Jim McGregor Caldari	Posted - 2006.08.06 13:04:00 - [15] Edited by: Jim McGregor on 06/08/2006 13:05:12 Originally by: R4z0r well that makes me feel VERY good, oh btw guys, when I buy a GTC of a website, and they email it to me, does it activate straight away ? cause im on holiday and I want tobuy one now before I spend it all on crap from markets and food ! :S help :P Nope, you activate it yourself when you feel like it. Check out Account payment options. It will extend your subscription from the end of the current one and add whatever amount of days the GTC adds. :) --- Eve Wiki \| Eve Tribune \| Eve Pirate
Neku	Posted - 2006.08.06 13:05:00 - [16] It activates straight away, once you insert it in to the web via your subscription page. You just have to login to your account via the web, change sub to GTC and insert the code and presto!
R4z0r	Posted - 2006.08.06 13:08:00 - [17] okay thnx, well im a trialist atm so i'll wait till it stops (due to people saying it takes days off) and then buy one of a website and then change sub ... We'll im gonna use paypal and then pay off my cashcard with solo and then it should work, at my age you cant get a credit card
prsr Gallente	Posted - 2006.08.06 13:10:00 - [18] Originally by: R4z0r Is eve really worth the fee's? I have been playing guild wars for hundreds of hours and I have sucked dry all the fun and interest within the game :( ! Last time I checked guild wars wasn't free either? -- .sig apathy ftw
Jenny Spitfire Caldari LoneStar Industries Veritas Immortalis	Posted - 2006.08.06 13:11:00 - [19] Yes. EvE is the only game that you can create RL enemies from a virtual world. ---------------- Cruelty is God's way of showing kindness.
Jim McGregor Caldari	Posted - 2006.08.06 13:12:00 - [20] Originally by: Jenny Spitfire Yes. EvE is the only game that you can create RL enemies from a virtual world. They should put that on the box... --- Eve Wiki \| Eve Tribune \| Eve Pirate
R4z0r	Posted - 2006.08.06 13:14:00 - [21] Yer exactly // btw guild wars is free im playing it as we speak, but its getting VERY boring, eve outnumbers it hugely // this is a retarded qestion, but is there more pressure on female characters on eve, because like im male and I play a female account !
Phoenix Lord The Arrow Project The ARR0W Project	Posted - 2006.08.06 14:04:00 - [22] Originally by: prsr Originally by: R4z0r Is eve really worth the fee's? I have been playing guild wars for hundreds of hours and I have sucked dry all the fun and interest within the game :( ! Last time I checked guild wars wasn't free either? Free as in no monthly fees, but you pay for the game like any normal non-MMO game out there. Yea EVE is worth it. ---------------- Meet... bunneh:
R4z0r	Posted - 2006.08.06 14:28:00 - [23] Thankyou all for your support, I think my future in eve is going to be very comfortable and relaxing. Thnx again ! BTW, why do people always say something bout my name ? is there a problem or something ?
HippoKing Caldari The I-Win Button	Posted - 2006.08.06 14:29:00 - [24] L33t names generally inspire condescension on the internet. Normal HippoKing service resumed; world no longer ending.
Peter Armstrong Caldari Dark Skyes	Posted - 2006.08.06 14:31:00 - [25] Originally by: Tar Ecthelion EVE = time sink = less time to spend money on anything else = money saver = no life = you`ll die rich i wish!
Argenton Sayvers	Posted - 2006.08.06 14:59:00 - [26] Guild Wars ... sigh.. a good example that the worst nightmare dreamt up by hellish carebear scientists is still not safe from griefers and general internet idiots. If you make the mistake of thinking of eve as a "game" - no, its not worth a single cent. It has some unique elements, mostly resulting from the carefree attitude of its developers. That is what makes eve so special.
The Wizz117	Posted - 2006.08.06 15:00:00 - [27] Originally by: Magic Trev if people didnt think it was worth the fees they wouldnt have an account and therefore anyone that dosent think its worth the fees wont be replying to this thread. [/WIN]. there are aboud 6 bilion people who dont find it wortht he fee and like 100K who do find it worth the fee. ------------------------------------------- That ccp created a universe doesen't mean they'r gods
HappyKitten Caldari State War Academy	Posted - 2006.08.06 15:05:00 - [28] Originally by: The Wizz117 Originally by: Magic Trev if people didnt think it was worth the fees they wouldnt have an account and therefore anyone that dosent think its worth the fees wont be replying to this thread. [/WIN]. there are aboud 6 bilion people who dont find it wortht he fee and like 100K who do find it worth the fee. That has absolutely nothing to do with what Trev posted, and is totally inaccurate nonetheless.
Roxanna Kell Destructive Influence Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.08.06 15:06:00 - [29] \NO eve is not worth the ffes, i think it should be mroe expensive so people cant afford mutli accounts ; p
Burnhard Brutor	Posted - 2006.08.06 15:13:00 - [30] It's worth the fee if you don't have a life or live in the Arctic Circle, playing 8 hours a day. Otherwise it isn't worth the fee. I don't find it fun, it's more of a grind. Everything in Eve takes a lot of time if you want to make any progress. It's a bit like a second job. And of the 100k accounts, probably the larger part of them are second or third accounts. And btw, asking this question is much like a lecturer giving a lecture on why it's better to turn up to lectures. The audience don't need the advice. Those that are absent are the ones you should be talking to. With some exceptions like me, who still have a few weeks on their last subs .
PeeWee Pee	Posted - 2006.08.06 15:22:00 - [31] eve is worth every penny of it dude
Zeknichov Amarr Black Avatar	Posted - 2006.08.06 15:32:00 - [32] Monthly costs of MMOs are chicken feed compared to the prices people pay for other entertainment. A popular comparison is Movies vs MMOs. You go watch a movie for 2 hours for $10+X for drinks/popcorn. You've almost covered that fee for the MMO and the MMO I wager you will spend over 100 hours playing during the month at least. It's $20 to buy a meal at a restaurant. I laugh at people who saying paying to play an MMO isn't worth the price.
PeeWee Pee	Posted - 2006.08.06 15:35:00 - [33] fair 'nuff.. still i get more joy out of twenty dolla lap dances. wish i can afford em again
Grim Vandal	Posted - 2006.08.06 15:38:00 - [34] actually atm it isnt! I play since beta or rather pay since launch ... i have 50.5 mill sp right now, but I dont play. why? instas and other similar game breaking "features" ruin this game for me (and im not a pirate at all) so if you are a carebear than yes join ... if you are more like a hardcore player than you will really get annoyed by these "features". Greetings Grim
Shigsy Caldari Four Horsemen	Posted - 2006.08.06 15:50:00 - [35] ^ Can i have your char/stuff? Yes eve is worth it, Im addicted
Lustralis	Posted - 2006.08.06 16:45:00 - [36] Originally by: Zeknichov Monthly costs of MMOs are chicken feed compared to the prices people pay for other entertainment. A popular comparison is Movies vs MMOs. You go watch a movie for 2 hours for $10+X for drinks/popcorn. You've almost covered that fee for the MMO and the MMO I wager you will spend over 100 hours playing during the month at least. It's $20 to buy a meal at a restaurant. I laugh at people who saying paying to play an MMO isn't worth the price. That is a rather Nerdy analogy. You can't judge "value" purely by ( time / cost ). I mean you can sit at home and poke your eye with a pencil for the cost of a pencil 24/7. Is that worth the price? I could easily get more pleasure from going out and watching one movie than I could from playing Eve for a month - and I have, often.
Manza Plus	Posted - 2006.08.06 16:59:00 - [37] I came from guild wars too. From what I can see on these forums, the biggest problem is that CCP mostly hears their customer's complaints, while arenanet listens to theirs.
Victor Kruger	Posted - 2006.08.06 17:15:00 - [38] To be honest, if I couldn't pay my sub with ingame cash I probably wouldn't play. Just tried logging in 5 mins ago and was greeted by horrid lag which made me log out right again. --------------- Hey, where's my portrait
Aversin Gallente Roving Guns Inc. RAZOR Alliance	Posted - 2006.08.06 17:16:00 - [39] actually you could just spend the 100m isk a month and buy a time card from somebody, so there are alternative options of paying the fees. Originally by: Razner Cerizo They will never quit. The beatings will continue until morale improves.
Zeknichov Amarr Black Avatar	Posted - 2006.08.06 17:39:00 - [40] Originally by: Lustralis Originally by: Zeknichov Monthly costs of MMOs are chicken feed compared to the prices people pay for other entertainment. A popular comparison is Movies vs MMOs. You go watch a movie for 2 hours for $10+X for drinks/popcorn. You've almost covered that fee for the MMO and the MMO I wager you will spend over 100 hours playing during the month at least. It's $20 to buy a meal at a restaurant. I laugh at people who saying paying to play an MMO isn't worth the price. That is a rather Nerdy analogy. You can't judge "value" purely by ( time / cost ). I mean you can sit at home and poke your eye with a pencil for the cost of a pencil 24/7. Is that worth the price? I could easily get more pleasure from going out and watching one movie than I could from playing Eve for a month - and I have, often. You are correct that is why I was using movies and eating out as specific examples. For the typical gamer playing an MMO is greater in value than a movie but gamers still go to see movies and then complain about MMO fees. If a gamer will play EVE because he will enjoy EVE but the monthly fee is preventing him from playing because he doesn't think the price is worth it then I highly doubt he was going to be having fun playing EVE but rather use it as a time sink for his excuse of a life. It's only worth it to pay for something that you will enjoy and if EVE is entertaining enough to play for more then a few hours a month to most people it's about equal to a movie. For most people who complain about MMO fees a conversation would go like this. "Hey want to play EVE?" "Hmm what's the game like?" "Detail..." "Oh that sounds fun yeah let's play." "$20 a month." "lol no way!! I'm not paying that." "Okay want to go to a movie? "Sure." "That movie sucked." "It sure did."
Peekster	Posted - 2006.08.06 18:08:00 - [41] Originally by: Dark Shikari Its worth every cent. In fact, it'll save you money, because you won't spend a cent on other games either I agree with this. I have not brought any games since i have played eve and thats been 9 months
Victor Kruger	Posted - 2006.08.06 18:10:00 - [42] You are comparing apples to oranges here A movie isn't a MMOG and therefore has other expectations to fulfill. If you want to compare, then do compare with other MMOG's. --------------- Hey, where's my portrait
niroshido Caldari Frontline Defense Force Maelstrom Alliance	Posted - 2006.08.06 18:13:00 - [43] to consider if the subscriptions are worth it, you need to think about what the game offers you, to me eve provides a vast universe where the chance of me getting a perfect character is nothing short of a unlikely what are you actually paying for? the servers ive played WOW, guild wars and a few others, guild wars i spent 10 minutes playing b4 i burst into laughter and went back to playing EVE, WOW was just boring, i spent hours wondering around the same areas and PVP was the most pathetic thing ever. i spent 4 weeks playing WOW, and realised how boring it was, this coincidently happened the same time i joined my 1st corp in EVE, and corps do make a difference, it opened way more things to me than b4, and its great hanging out mining with others from the US, UK, sweden etc., whereas WOW the servers are split i had at one stage 3 accounts in EVE, its a pity that i didnt have a pc to run all 3 or the money, but none the less i still skill up 2 of my accounts what really hooked me to EVE, was CCP's solutions to new things, where WOW was more like all other fantasy titles, eve took on space, starwars was (at least i heard )pathetic, but eve was so diverse and with all the patches its unlikely you'd become a MASTER OF PWNAGE, besides WOW really finishes once u reach lvl 60 after that its nothing so final thought EVE FTW!! Signature file size and dimensions to big, please keep it under 24000 bytes and 400x120 - Petwraith
Argenton Sayvers	Posted - 2006.08.06 18:16:00 - [44] Originally by: Manza Plus I came from guild wars too. From what I can see on these forums, the biggest problem is that CCP mostly hears their customer's complaints, while arenanet listens to theirs. That one is really funny - beta and the UAS uprising - sounds like you are from gwonline, not guild-hall. ;)
Vanlade Amarr Imperial Academy	Posted - 2006.08.07 03:15:00 - [45] Yes, it is worth the fee and then more. Quote: The question you should ask is not who will let you, but who will stop you.
Gah'khaz Caldari	Posted - 2006.08.07 03:40:00 - [46] It's not worth it, not worth it at all! Ya'll quit right now and gimme your stuffz ^^
Maximillian Pele	Posted - 2006.08.07 04:03:00 - [47] I believe that CCP should change subscription models. Rather than a monthly fee, they should institute a pay-per-post system on these forums. Then HippoKing and a few others can pay for the rest of us to play.
mazzilliu Caldari SniggWaffe	Posted - 2006.08.07 04:17:00 - [48] worth every penny, if i actually paid anything it would be. aside from my initial subscription and my power of 2 alt i'm paying for everything with gametime cards. eve has more entertainment hour value per dollar/pound then any other game i know, as well as the best support/most honest company for any game i've played(i haven't played WoW). even though they arent perfect, they are a lot better then most other game companies as far as not letting their ego get in the way of informing or entertaining the players. yeah you can call me a CCP toad or something but i have only started playing 4 months ago and im still terribly impressed with them IN COMPARISON to everything else i've played. will still draw sigs 4 isk click here
Militis Kolosok Caldari	Posted - 2006.08.07 04:25:00 - [49] I'm saying this as only a 2 week customer. Yes.
Nanobotter Mk2	Posted - 2006.08.07 07:31:00 - [50] Edited by: Nanobotter Mk2 on 07/08/2006 07:33:12 It sounds good on paper but unfortunately most of "all" those things in eve are very monotenous after a very short period of time, and the PVP is very WEAK at the moment since most of the pvp is decided by set up's and it is far to easy to warp away from a "risky" fight unless you are gonna haul around atleast 1 friend in a dedicated tackler ship and mob EZ targets ( which is weak pvp ). I will say this the game has grerat atmosphere which will only get better, and the developer's have historically done great job on improving eve, and infact seem to be gaining a head of steam. This is the main reason i keep my account active and perserver even though the boredom of play makes my play time limited, before ZZZ.zzzz.ZZZZZ sets in. So oddly enough i would suggest go for it, as a long term investment if your an avid gamer, get a bit of cash, and train skills and play when you feel the urge ( you really only need to play eve to make money since the leveling is auto done by simply training skills ), I am banking on the fact EVE will some day soon be a GREAT game if the developeers keep at it making the needed changes. Right now most gamers will get bored of EVE gameplay once they grasp and explore the depth of the game mechancis, it is very simple repetitive tasks ATM and the pvp is pretty simplistic for the msot part IE you will very rarely run into a solid pvp scrap where you got at it with someone, most times it is pwn or be pwned and almost all of it was predetermined by what ship and how it was fitted by both parties. Again EVE seems to have the brightest future of all mmo's i know of and worth the long term investment because if they every get EVE finally fleshed out it will be simply AMAZING gaming experience "why? instas and other similar game breaking "features" ruin this game for me (and im not a pirate at all)" Well then you're a gate camper, because the only people who think inst'as ruin the game are people who like getting off on cheap kills and ill equipped for pvp ships traveling.
Mike Yagon Minmatar The Phoenix Legionaires	Posted - 2006.08.07 07:40:00 - [51] Originally by: Dark Shikari Its worth every cent. In fact, it'll save you money, because you won't spend a cent on other games either Hardly, because now I have three accounts. Also, Guildwars is not a MMO, it's a multiplayer Co-Op RPG with an ingame lobby. ------ In Carebear We Trust
Testy Mctest	Posted - 2006.08.07 08:11:00 - [52] Originally by: Hast its not, quit and give me your stuff Yes, surely his Reaper and 1 unit of trit will go a long way to making you a rich man :) Scrapheap Challenge Forums
Goktar illiat Gallente DAB RAZOR Alliance	Posted - 2006.08.07 08:39:00 - [53] Originally by: R4z0r Is eve really worth the fee's? Yes !
Heikki Gallente Wreckless Abandon	Posted - 2006.08.07 08:57:00 - [54] Originally by: Nanobotter Mk2 most of "all" those things in eve are very monotenous .. the PVP is very WEAK at the moment Seriously, this sounds like someone staring at a sandbox, and saying 'looks really boring, nothing has happened for hours'. It's not a guided tour, you really have to look for the fun by yourself, but it is out there.. From months long scheming plans to instant "logon and have an hour of pvping/npcing". Ok, it might not be for everyone; I'm too often having this feeling of too many people giving up Eve before they've felt the vastness and immersion. -Lasse
SonOTassadar The Dead Parrot Shoppe Inc.	Posted - 2006.08.07 09:42:00 - [55] It's so worth it I bought a second account. Many forumers I see have more than 2 accounts. I've seen as many as 6. By that perspective, I would say it is worth it. ___________________________
Iorya Dragon Beagle Corp	Posted - 2006.08.07 11:51:00 - [56] Yes it worths! Unfortunatly these forums, general discussion and others, are full of noobs, whiners, forum *****s, that got nothing better to do and whine all day, flame and most of them have no idea about EVE. Most of players avoid general discussion forums, and go on sell/buy orders, ship setups, alliance flames, and ofcourse the coolest, Video forum. I rarely post on forums, and most of my corp members, visit sell and video forums, the rest is a just a bunch of flaming, noobish posts, and stuff, CCP should realy do something about this. It okie in WOW, but here is EVE, not a copycat BS game with greedy devs. The best part in EVE, is the skills system, u cant play for a week, or a month, as long as u train something, so u dont have to grind like in other games. There is a small part of the grind if u do 1000 missions and complexes. I stoped to do those long time ago, now i pvp, and ocasionaly rat:P Have fun:) temp signature: I hate carebears that whine on forums, and have no idea about the game.
Sensor Error 0utbreak	Posted - 2006.08.07 12:09:00 - [57] Originally by: Dark Shikari Its worth every cent. In fact, it'll save you money, because you won't spend a cent on other games either what he said. RABBLE RABBLE RABBLE!!! ------------------------------------------ Dev Responses to common questions
Laocoon Veto.	Posted - 2006.08.07 12:20:00 - [58] Originally by: Magic Trev people can complain about eve but at the end of they still play and pay so it would all add up to them thinking its worth the sub fees [/RE-COMMENCE WIN] SO qft - Lao Veto. Corp
jimmy jack	Posted - 2006.08.07 12:27:00 - [59] its worth the fee and it will save you money. infact in the three years ive played i have baught 3 games total 1 of wich was an xbox game. and the 100k peeps that think its worth it to th 6.5 billion that dont . well its more like this 120k people have discoved eve and are addicted the other 6.5 billion are being worked on. soon ccp will rule the world mwhahaahahaha
R4z0r	Posted - 2006.08.07 13:32:00 - [60] Well I have read every post and i think i'll join eve, cause i know im addicted every day I like dream of it LOL Im away on holiday and the only thing I want to do is come back home have litres of coffee play eve and **** loadz ... 1 question,is it quicker to download the game from the site or is it quicker using the proper game disc that also gives ya 30 days free ? Cause my dads laptop wireless in cornwall takes like 50 hours 2 download the client [:S] or i can just spend a lil more and get the proper game with a new account. If yes to the proper disc how long while it take ? cause people say the patches will take me days to install ! Thnx 4 reading !
Zantazar Caldari The Syndicate Inc Ascendant Frontier	Posted - 2006.08.07 14:45:00 - [61] As far as I am concerned, Eve is not a game, it is an alternate virtual life. The severe penalties in comparison to Camelot, WoW, EQ2, Guild Wars, (all of which I played once upon a time in depth), mean that the application of concentration is vital. The vast range of directions to take, the inability to reverse decisions easily, the interaction with other players whether as a team, or as an enemy à..etcà. An absolutely fantastic worldà not a game to me. I have 2 accounts, and I have opened up a 3rd account for my son who has now been playing about 2/3 weeks. We have 2 pcÆs beside each other, and I can load both my accounts in window mode on my pc, with teamspeak to chat to my corporation friends. If they doubled the cost, I would still pay for it. I would sell my soul, my body, and my entire family for a Navy Raven. (Just kidding .... my soul is not for sale)
R4z0r	Posted - 2006.08.07 14:48:00 - [62] OMG, you just waisted my time, but I have to say I think I agree hehehe
Rodj Blake Amarr PIE Inc.	Posted - 2006.08.07 14:48:00 - [63] The thing about Eve is, that subscription money pays for lots of cool things like a dynamic backstory. Why, just last year they started a story arc about the assassination of the Amarrian Emperor. Dulce et decorum est, pro imperator mori
R4z0r	Posted - 2006.08.07 14:50:00 - [64] kool ... zan seems like a dedicated player :O, I which you were my dad ... my dad says its a waiste of money ... but i think he doesnt understand, like what you said zan

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