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Doc Fury
Furious Enterprises
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Posted - 2014.09.23 23:31:00 -
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Whoopsies.
The accumulated filth of all their sex and murder will foam up about their waists and all the ho's and politicians will look up and shout 'Save us!' and I'll look down, and whisper 'Hodor'. |
Val'Dore
PlanetCorp InterStellar
858
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Posted - 2014.09.23 23:34:00 -
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I predict this thread is about to get a boot.ini up its parse.
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Priscilla Project
Custom Clothing Productions
47
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Posted - 2014.09.23 23:43:00 -
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Wasn't me this time!!!!!! xD
- soon - |
WASPY69
Hard Knocks Inc.
341
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Posted - 2014.09.23 23:50:00 -
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Seems like all the EU people had 'Advanced Socket Upgrades' to 5 as we all stayed logged in. (at least that's how it went in corp) |
Kaarous Aldurald
ROC Deep Space
The ROC
9882
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Posted - 2014.09.23 23:51:00 -
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I haven't even bothered logging in lately, the disconnects are too much to deal with.
"Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."
One of ours, ten of theirs. |
TightBanana
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
0
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Posted - 2014.09.23 23:58:00 -
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Sooo annoying, day after day after day... |
ollobrains
5th Front enterprises
4
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Posted - 2014.09.24 00:23:00 -
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dont think it was noticed that much, the overall player base is in decline down 20% on a year ago, eve is dying |
Rowells
Unknown Soldiers
Fidelas Constans
1355
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Posted - 2014.09.24 00:40:00 -
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My client disconnects enough on a regular basis. So I have no idea. Like somebody pooped in the swamp. |
Unsuccessful At Everything
The Troll Bridge
16892
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Posted - 2014.09.24 01:22:00 -
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Dam u CCP! Why u no control ISPs and people who Ddos?
We demand you control the everything, because we will blame you for it anyways.
Since the cessation of their usefulness is imminent, may I appropriate your belongings? |
RenoIdo
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
4
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Posted - 2014.09.24 01:37:00 -
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Another day, another loss to CCP's server issues. For solo pvpers like me the game has been unplayable for months. Can't remember staying connected for my whole play session in 2 months. |
Kaarous Aldurald
ROC Deep Space
The ROC
9884
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Posted - 2014.09.24 02:02:00 -
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Unsuccessful At Everything wrote:Dam u CCP! Why u no control ISPs and people who Ddos?
We demand you control the everything, because we will blame you for it anyways.
Meh, for my part I understand the why of it. Fortunately, unlike last time the game was unplayable, I have something to occupy myself with. Destiny is about as much fun as I could ask from a shooter.
"Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."
One of ours, ten of theirs. |
Khergit Deserters
Crom's Angels
3548
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Posted - 2014.09.24 02:40:00 -
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I was in the middle of a rant in Local at the time. By the time I got back, the original audience were all gone. So no point starting over again. Tens of minutes of work-- lost forever. Where were you during the great DC?
"Were [sic] not your monkey and so what?"-á -The Sex Pistols (2006) |
Vyl Vit
796
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Posted - 2014.09.24 02:47:00 -
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You can buy connection insurance at the Aurum store.
Anyone with any sense has already left town. |
Nexus Day
Lustrevik Trade and Travel Bureau
1050
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Posted - 2014.09.24 02:56:00 -
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The player base creates the content and now you expect CCP to maintain the servers? What a bunch of lazy bastards.
Think of the disconnects as emergent gameplay and things seem sooooo much better.
This thread has so much content it may be 'Thread of the Year' and it is only January.
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Milan Nantucket
New Eden Misfits
176
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Posted - 2014.09.24 03:01:00 -
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Nexus Day wrote:The player base creates the content and now you expect CCP to maintain the servers? What a bunch of lazy bastards.
Think of the disconnects as emergent gameplay and things seem sooooo much better.
Hehe emergent gameplay... nice  |
Nevyn Auscent
Broke Sauce
1553
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Posted - 2014.09.24 03:04:00 -
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RenoIdo wrote:Another day, another loss to CCP's server issues. For solo pvpers like me the game has been unplayable for months. Can't remember staying connected for my whole play session in 2 months.
Perhaps look at your own connection.
Most of the time if there is a consistent issue, it's the players own connection.
If there is a mass DC, it's almost always one of the general internet hubs that CCP DOES NOT CONTROL!
I know it's hard to believe, but there are servers between you and CCP that they can't control that your internet traffic goes through, and when one of those servers goes down, your connection to EVE gets cut even though it's nothing to do with CCP.
TLDR. Learn to Internet, not all DC's are CCP's fault. |
RenoIdo
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
4
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Posted - 2014.09.24 03:09:00 -
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Nevyn Auscent wrote:RenoIdo wrote:Another day, another loss to CCP's server issues. For solo pvpers like me the game has been unplayable for months. Can't remember staying connected for my whole play session in 2 months. Perhaps look at your own connection. Most of the time if there is a consistent issue, it's the players own connection. If there is a mass DC, it's almost always one of the general internet hubs that CCP DOES NOT CONTROL! I know it's hard to believe, but there are servers between you and CCP that they can't control that your internet traffic goes through, and when one of those servers goes down, your connection to EVE gets cut even though it's nothing to do with CCP. TLDR. Learn to Internet, not all DC's are CCP's fault.
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=374966&find=unread
Take a look at this post. CCP has admitted it is their problem, not our ISP's. From what I understand thousands of players are having disconnects every single day for 2 months. The game has been and is unplayable for solo pvpers. |
Seraph Essael
Devils Diciples
League of Infamy
885
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Posted - 2014.09.24 03:15:00 -
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Doc... *looks nervous* what are you doing? You haven't vented the servers again have you. Furybot doesn't start lockable threads, he points people in the right direction and tells them that ISDs are enroute.
I think someone needs a memory wipe...
Quoted from Doc Fury: "Concerned citizens: Doc seldom plays EVE on the weekends during spring and summer, so you will always be on your own for a couple days a week. Doc spends that time collecting kittens for the on-going sacrifices, engaging in reckless outdoor activities, and speaking in the 3rd person." |
Efernal
Kosen International
3
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Posted - 2014.09.24 03:40:00 -
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I guess I am lucky to have a Fiber Optic line that runs close to me. I live 45 minutes from 2 major internet hubs and 3 hours from the New York hub. The only thing I ever get once in awhile is that socket closed bs. I give it a day or 2 then all is good for me. Just remember to power down all routers and the modem. Sometimes that is the main culprit. Or it could be CCP at their end as has been pointed out. |
Nevyn Auscent
Broke Sauce
1553
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Posted - 2014.09.24 03:56:00 -
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No, that's not what CCP said at all.
DDoS attacks are not CCP's servers fault.
Like I said, learn to internet, actually learn how this stuff works. |
RenoIdo
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
4
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Posted - 2014.09.24 04:02:00 -
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Nevyn Auscent wrote:No, that's not what CCP said at all. DDoS attacks are not CCP's servers fault. Like I said, learn to internet, actually learn how this stuff works.
I think you need to learn to internet rather than just forum troll and defend CCP blindly. There are ways for them to prevent DDOS attacks on their servers, almost every online service has these problems and can fix them. Why would a dev post that they are working on this issue if it is unavoidable? They are simply not blocking these attacks fast enough and not taking their customers subscriptions seriously. I have been playing since 2010 and after 7+ weeks of disconnects everyday I likely wont be next month. From the other players I have talked to I doubt I'm the only one. |
Obsidian Hawk
RONA Corporation
RONA Directorate
944
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Posted - 2014.09.24 05:48:00 -
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RenoIdo wrote:Nevyn Auscent wrote:No, that's not what CCP said at all. DDoS attacks are not CCP's servers fault. Like I said, learn to internet, actually learn how this stuff works. I think you need to learn to internet rather than just forum troll and defend CCP blindly. There are ways for them to prevent DDOS attacks on their servers, almost every online service has these problems and can fix them. Why would a dev post that they are working on this issue if it is unavoidable? They are simply not blocking these attacks fast enough and not taking their customers subscriptions seriously. I have been playing since 2010 and after 7+ weeks of disconnects everyday I likely wont be next month. From the other players I have talked to I doubt I'm the only one.
There is no easy way to prevent DDOS attacks. If Blizzard can't defend against DDOS attacks what makes you think CCP can? I remember when Blizzard got DDOS'd and all of their servers in EU, Oceana and US were down all at the same time because of DDOS. You just can't do it easily especially since it seems to be a large scale attack.
Also if you think you can do better, im sure CCP is more than willing to hire you for your skills! |
RenoIdo
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
4
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Posted - 2014.09.24 05:53:00 -
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Obsidian Hawk wrote:RenoIdo wrote:Nevyn Auscent wrote:No, that's not what CCP said at all. DDoS attacks are not CCP's servers fault. Like I said, learn to internet, actually learn how this stuff works. I think you need to learn to internet rather than just forum troll and defend CCP blindly. There are ways for them to prevent DDOS attacks on their servers, almost every online service has these problems and can fix them. Why would a dev post that they are working on this issue if it is unavoidable? They are simply not blocking these attacks fast enough and not taking their customers subscriptions seriously. I have been playing since 2010 and after 7+ weeks of disconnects everyday I likely wont be next month. From the other players I have talked to I doubt I'm the only one. There is no easy way to prevent DDOS attacks. If Blizzard can't defend against DDOS attacks what makes you think CCP can? I remember when Blizzard got DDOS'd and all of their servers in EU, Oceana and US were down all at the same time because of DDOS. You just can't do it easily especially since it seems to be a large scale attack. Also if you think you can do better, im sure CCP is more than willing to hire you for your skills!
The thing is Blizzard will issue compensation for services they can't provide properly. They will also hire new employee's to solve the problems. I have never heard of any connectivity issues in wow or d3 that have persisted for 2 months like this has.
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Remiel Pollard
Shock Treatment Ministries
5458
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Posted - 2014.09.24 05:55:00 -
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RenoIdo wrote:
The thing is Blizzard will issue compensation for services they can't provide properly. They will also hire new employee's to solve the problems. I have never heard of any connectivity issues in wow or d3 that have persisted for 2 months like this has.
Then go play those. We really won't miss you. Kthxbai.
GÇ£Some capsuleers claim that ECM is 'dishonorable' and 'unfair'.
Jam those ones first, and kill them last.GÇ¥
- Jirai 'Fatal' Laitanen, Pithum Nullifier Training Manual c. YC104 |
RenoIdo
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
4
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Posted - 2014.09.24 05:57:00 -
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Remiel Pollard wrote:RenoIdo wrote:
The thing is Blizzard will issue compensation for services they can't provide properly. They will also hire new employee's to solve the problems. I have never heard of any connectivity issues in wow or d3 that have persisted for 2 months like this has.
Then go play those. We really won't miss you. Kthxbai.
Hard to take someone who plays the forums more than the game seriously. That's a pretty sad killboard you have. |
Remiel Pollard
Shock Treatment Ministries
5458
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Posted - 2014.09.24 05:59:00 -
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RenoIdo wrote:Remiel Pollard wrote:RenoIdo wrote:
The thing is Blizzard will issue compensation for services they can't provide properly. They will also hire new employee's to solve the problems. I have never heard of any connectivity issues in wow or d3 that have persisted for 2 months like this has.
Then go play those. We really won't miss you. Kthxbai. Hard to take someone who plays the forums more than the game seriously.
Oh, you've personally logged my game vs forum time have you? Stalker.
Hard to take someone who claims to be a PVP'er but has no killboard seriously too.
GÇ£Some capsuleers claim that ECM is 'dishonorable' and 'unfair'.
Jam those ones first, and kill them last.GÇ¥
- Jirai 'Fatal' Laitanen, Pithum Nullifier Training Manual c. YC104 |
Obsidian Hawk
RONA Corporation
RONA Directorate
944
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Posted - 2014.09.24 06:01:00 -
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RenoIdo wrote:
The thing is Blizzard will issue compensation for services they can't provide properly. They will also hire new employee's to solve the problems. I have never heard of any connectivity issues in wow or d3 that have persisted for 2 months like this has.
I have played wow on and off since Burning crusade was release. Not ONCE have they ever issued compensation. In fact in their EULA they even say they make no guarantee's that their servers will operate 100% of the time. And if they go down during a raid you pretty much just have to deal with it. |
baltec1
Bat Country
Goonswarm Federation
13282
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Posted - 2014.09.24 06:05:00 -
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RenoIdo wrote:Remiel Pollard wrote:RenoIdo wrote:
The thing is Blizzard will issue compensation for services they can't provide properly. They will also hire new employee's to solve the problems. I have never heard of any connectivity issues in wow or d3 that have persisted for 2 months like this has.
Then go play those. We really won't miss you. Kthxbai. Hard to take someone who plays the forums more than the game seriously. That's a pretty sad killboard you have.
Then let me tell you to go play another game, nobody can stop a DDoS. There has been internet issues all over the place not just with EVE for the last few months.
Join Bat Country today and defend the Glorious Socialist Dictatorship |
Morcutio
Shellworld Technologies
0
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Posted - 2014.09.24 06:18:00 -
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RenoIdo wrote:Obsidian Hawk wrote:RenoIdo wrote:Nevyn Auscent wrote:No, that's not what CCP said at all. DDoS attacks are not CCP's servers fault. Like I said, learn to internet, actually learn how this stuff works. I think you need to learn to internet rather than just forum troll and defend CCP blindly. There are ways for them to prevent DDOS attacks on their servers, almost every online service has these problems and can fix them. Why would a dev post that they are working on this issue if it is unavoidable? They are simply not blocking these attacks fast enough and not taking their customers subscriptions seriously. I have been playing since 2010 and after 7+ weeks of disconnects everyday I likely wont be next month. From the other players I have talked to I doubt I'm the only one. There is no easy way to prevent DDOS attacks. If Blizzard can't defend against DDOS attacks what makes you think CCP can? I remember when Blizzard got DDOS'd and all of their servers in EU, Oceana and US were down all at the same time because of DDOS. You just can't do it easily especially since it seems to be a large scale attack. Also if you think you can do better, im sure CCP is more than willing to hire you for your skills! The thing is Blizzard will issue compensation for services they can't provide properly. They will also hire new employee's to solve the problems. I have never heard of any connectivity issues in wow or d3 that have persisted for 2 months like this has.
Meh. I'm new, so I'll plead ignorance and take the hit:
Blizzard *is* having similar problems right now. Not quite as regular as every day, but several times a week. Their forums contain similar sentiments. Wow and hearthstone have both been affected (that I know of personally) and I believe that it's been affecting their other titles as well.
LOTS of other gaming companies have been having similar issues recently. DDoS is the new black. (Which is funny, because this is really soooooo 15 years ago, but whatever, get off my lawn.)
DDoS attacks aren't easy to solve. Truly effective solutions are very expensive. Expensive solutions wreck business models. |
Dave Stark
6963
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Posted - 2014.09.24 07:58:00 -
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RenoIdo wrote:[The thing is Blizzard will issue compensation for services they can't provide properly. They will also hire new employee's to solve the problems. I have never heard of any connectivity issues in wow or d3 that have persisted for 2 months like this has.
probably because neither game is worth playing for anywhere near 2 months. |
Ilyana Nehla
Caldari Supply and Armament Inc.
10
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Posted - 2014.09.24 08:20:00 -
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I'm curious if a captcha would actually help. Without a captcha you can not log in and as such the DDoS needs to "solve" the captcha. The Captcha should then be evaluated on a different server. I am not into DDoS tbh, I am a developer yes, but never bothered with DDoS's . SAP rarely have this :D |
Adrie Atticus
The Shadow Plague
The Bastion
369
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Posted - 2014.09.24 08:32:00 -
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RenoIdo wrote:Nevyn Auscent wrote:No, that's not what CCP said at all. DDoS attacks are not CCP's servers fault. Like I said, learn to internet, actually learn how this stuff works. I think you need to learn to internet rather than just forum troll and defend CCP blindly. There are ways for them to prevent DDOS attacks on their servers, almost every online service has these problems and can fix them. Why would a dev post that they are working on this issue if it is unavoidable? They are simply not blocking these attacks fast enough and not taking their customers subscriptions seriously. I have been playing since 2010 and after 7+ weeks of disconnects everyday I likely wont be next month. From the other players I have talked to I doubt I'm the only one.
If you can prevent any and all DDoS attacks towards one small server cluster 100% of the time, you will become one of the richest men on this planet.
Why don't you go and implement those changes and come back in a week to report how they worked?
Here's the basic idea on what happens: Networking equipment have ports for handling traffic. Those ports have a certain throughput in number of connections or in gbps, whichever caps first. If there is an excessive amount of connections, the device cna try to start filtering out known attack vectors or connections in a protocol which is not used by the service in question. This works up until the limit is reached and then there are 2 default states the port can drop to: drop-all or allow-all.
Dropping traffic means that even the good traffic is discarded and not forwarded but it'll cut off the pressure on the whole network. At the same time a load balancer will start to utilize other ports for good traffic and in an ideal situation you'd have a 1-2sec hiccup. In some cases that hiccup is shown as a lag spike, other times you might get booted off the server. This is the price you have to pay for having a somewhat clean connection.
Allowing all traffic would actually cause even more problems as the resilient border devices would let everything through to the way more fragile routers and servers which are designed for a certain load which is fraction of what border devices are designed for.
What you need to do to stop DDoS is to cut the source of the attack; infected machines, botnets and all those ghetto-setups with 1500 cellphones with one-time use 3G sim cards. Either you have to become a psychic to see which devices will become malicious to your network before they do and block them magically with a neural interface which can fill filtering tables with the power of your mind OR you disallow people from using the internet in the whole world.
If this is too high tech for you, here's a tl;dr:
Internet is not a series of tubes which gets clogged up with racing horses and ****, it's more complicated. |
Infrequent
Coreli Corporation
Ineluctable.
53
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Posted - 2014.09.24 08:46:00 -
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RenoIdo wrote:Remiel Pollard wrote:RenoIdo wrote:
The thing is Blizzard will issue compensation for services they can't provide properly. They will also hire new employee's to solve the problems. I have never heard of any connectivity issues in wow or d3 that have persisted for 2 months like this has.
Then go play those. We really won't miss you. Kthxbai. Hard to take someone who plays the forums more than the game seriously. That's a pretty sad killboard you have.
We all know your statement has fallen flat on it's face, no need to stack up yet more invalid statements. Stop embarrassing yourself. You know you have nothing going for you when you backpedal so hard you resort to killboard warrioring. PROTIP: Not everyone PvPs.
Dealing with DDoS is no easy task, whatever it is CCP are doing to deal with it, we wont know of until the dust settles and that's if there's anything that can be done. |
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ISD Ezwal
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
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Posted - 2014.09.24 10:05:00 -
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As there is already a thread on the same topic, this one gets a lock.
The Rules:
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As a courtesy to other forum users, please search to see if there is a thread already open on the topic you wish to discuss. If so, please place your comments there instead. Multiple threads on the same subject clutter up the forums needlessly, causing good feedback and ideas to be lost. Please keep discussions regarding a topic to a single thread.
ISD Ezwal
Vice Admiral
Community Communication Liaisons (CCLs)
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