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Tachy
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Posted - 2006.08.07 17:36:00 -
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Edited by: Tachy on 07/08/2006 17:37:46
 Originally by: Jim McGregor
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Win2k is as close to its official end of lifecycle as XP.
It isn't less secure.
It isn't less stable.
I don't care for the look as long as the OS does what I want it to do.
Why should I dish out extra money for an OS that does exactly the same (as or less fast) as the one I have right here?
Wireless? My DSL access is about 30cm from my bigtower.
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St Dragon
Deep Core Mining Inc.
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Posted - 2006.08.07 18:18:00 -
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Originally by: Sharkbait
there are people programming new stuff and people fixing old stuff. there is both happening.
but however, dragon is coming out before kali and dragon has alot of fixes and improvements in it. so yes, there will be fixes before kali. then with kali comes even more fixes and content with lots of sexy stuff.
OMG im comming out and i didnt even know
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D'onryu Shoqui
Gallente
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Posted - 2006.08.07 20:21:00 -
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omg hope they fix the win2k thing because im not buying xp just for a game!, win2k isnt even that different from xp as xp is baed on win2k.
i could go out and buy XP but i choose not to because for me it offers no advantages , its alot more friendly but im used to win2k now and i would only end up making winxp look like win2k and disable most of the user friendly things anyway.
got winxp on my laptop but only because i need media centre so i know what im not missing out on with my desktop.
vista isnt that far off either i will buy that when it comes out but only because i will upgrade to dx10 when the new graphics cards are released near the end of the year or start or the start of next year.
i would hate to miss out on eve until then especially considering there is no real reason to stop it working on win2k.
even that game MS released that refused to install on win2k works if u copy a winxp install across to win2k
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Jim McGregor
Caldari
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Posted - 2006.08.07 20:23:00 -
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Edited by: Jim McGregor on 07/08/2006 20:24:12
Im not sure why you guys buy windows. It must be the most pirated piece of software EVER. 
Just about any computer geek on the planet could probably give you a copy. I do have an original myself though...
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Auldare
S.A.S
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Posted - 2006.08.07 20:30:00 -
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Tachy, i use win2k myself and can get on the test server
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Avon
Caldari
Black Nova Corp
Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.08.07 20:35:00 -
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Originally by: Jim McGregor
Edited by: Jim McGregor on 07/08/2006 16:46:43
Originally by: CB Cyrix
Edited by: CB Cyrix on 07/08/2006 15:26:37
Do we have any official links or posts etc, or a dev post here or something?
Does the dragon code work on windows 2000?
Coz the last study showed that 38% of eve players are using win2k, and 3% are win98se...
38% using windows 2000? Thats sounds way too high. I dont think Microsoft will even support it for much longer. I realize that businesses might stick with it, but there is really no reason for gamers to still use it.
2k was probably the best version of windows MS ever produced.
Fast, stable, and a much smaller footprint that XP.
I miss it.
The Battleships is not and should not be a solo pwnmobile - Oveur
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Shamis Orzoz
SniggWaffe
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Posted - 2006.08.07 20:36:00 -
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All I want are bug fixes and server optimization. The new content will be worthless if we still can't have large fights.
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Jim McGregor
Caldari
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Posted - 2006.08.07 20:40:00 -
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Edited by: Jim McGregor on 07/08/2006 20:40:49
Originally by: Shamis Orzoz
All I want are bug fixes and server optimization. The new content will be worthless if we still can't have large fights.
They say the dragon branch is better at handling it... I hope they are right. This game needs to be able to cope with large battles.
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Jim McGregor
Caldari
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Posted - 2006.08.07 20:40:00 -
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Edited by: Jim McGregor on 07/08/2006 20:39:51
Originally by: Avon
2k was probably the best version of windows MS ever produced.
Fast, stable, and a much smaller footprint that XP.
I miss it.
I bet you will love WinXP once Vista shows up. :)
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DigitalCommunist
Evolution
Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.08.07 20:54:00 -
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This is a trick question. Content or Fixes? What do you consider content and what do you consider fixes?
Making old stuff better can be considered adding content to the game, then again, you can also say its been "fixed" from a less desirable position. I might want both, if you say it like that. If you consider content as new agent missions and tech 1 ships, and bug fixes as minor performance tweaks or ui work that I won't even notice.. then I'd say I don't want either.
Still not tricky enough?
What do you call the changes to map, scanning, local chat, instajumps and combat duration? Can you call it content because it makes the game more fun, or do you give credit to the players for creating the content. Can you say the changes would be fixes to a broken system, or simply improvements to working one?
Kali being able to host 500 man fleet battles is pointless if theres no fun to be had from them. And conversely, theres no point in having balanced ships if you can't load space after jumping in.
Kind of sucks, but if I had to choose, I'd rather take balance over performance. You always have the option of fighting smaller battles, if the server can't handle big ones.
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Avon
Caldari
Black Nova Corp
Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.08.07 20:57:00 -
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Originally by: Jim McGregor
Edited by: Jim McGregor on 07/08/2006 20:39:51
Originally by: Avon
2k was probably the best version of windows MS ever produced.
Fast, stable, and a much smaller footprint that XP.
I miss it.
I bet you will love WinXP once Vista shows up. :)
Vista makes my PC cry.
Having said that, it is worth it for the "windows" + TAB version of ALT + TAB .. man that is cool.
The Battleships is not and should not be a solo pwnmobile - Oveur
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Avon
Caldari
Black Nova Corp
Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.08.07 20:58:00 -
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Originally by: DigitalCommunist
Kind of sucks, but if I had to choose, I'd rather take balance over performance. You always have the option of fighting smaller battles, if the server can't handle big ones.
Ultimately the most pragmatic view imho.
The Battleships is not and should not be a solo pwnmobile - Oveur
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Ilya Murametz
Caldari
Hybonashi Industries
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Posted - 2006.08.07 21:21:00 -
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Edited by: Ilya Murametz on 07/08/2006 21:22:53
Fix bugs, fix bugs, fix more bugs, then fix all bugs, then double check and fix the rest of the bugs, then make sure there is no bugs then maybe release next patch with tons more bugs.....
P.S. Oh and did I say.. FIX BUGS FIRST
Edit: if you need the list of ALL the bugs ingame feel free to contact me... CCP or whoever cares over there...
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Shamis Orzoz
SniggWaffe
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Posted - 2006.08.07 21:36:00 -
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Originally by: DigitalCommunist
Kind of sucks, but if I had to choose, I'd rather take balance over performance. You always have the option of fighting smaller battles, if the server can't handle big ones.
So I suppose BoB will just bring a little squad of hacs next time they want to conquer a region?
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Haks'he Lirky
Evolution
Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.08.07 21:39:00 -
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Same thing has been said over and over, I remember when Castor was comming out and there was these kind of threads everywhere. 
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Lori Carlyle
Black Avatar
Firmus Ixion
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Posted - 2006.08.07 21:46:00 -
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Software like eve will never be free of bugs, however there are a load that really need to be fixed before they add more code to a already very bugged client.
Vote for Fixing the Major ones b4 adding to them.
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Hellspawn01
Amarr
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Posted - 2006.08.07 23:20:00 -
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Originally by: DigitalCommunist
This is a trick question. Content or Fixes? What do you consider content and what do you consider fixes?
Making old stuff better can be considered adding content to the game, then again, you can also say its been "fixed" from a less desirable position. I might want both, if you say it like that. If you consider content as new agent missions and tech 1 ships, and bug fixes as minor performance tweaks or ui work that I won't even notice.. then I'd say I don't want either.
Still not tricky enough?
What do you call the changes to map, scanning, local chat, instajumps and combat duration? Can you call it content because it makes the game more fun, or do you give credit to the players for creating the content. Can you say the changes would be fixes to a broken system, or simply improvements to working one?
Kali being able to host 500 man fleet battles is pointless if theres no fun to be had from them. And conversely, theres no point in having balanced ships if you can't load space after jumping in.
Kind of sucks, but if I had to choose, I'd rather take balance over performance. You always have the option of fighting smaller battles, if the server can't handle big ones.
I mean bugs fixed and lag issues sorted instead of implenting new ships and new features. Balancing is another issue which doesnt fall under Bugs or expensions.
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Taaketa Frist
Information Science Security
Knights Of the Southerncross
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Posted - 2006.08.07 23:28:00 -
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Edited by: Taaketa Frist on 07/08/2006 23:28:25
I use windows 3.1
I don't really care too much as long as bugs are getting fixed nad theres some good things coming into the game.
The devs are doing their jobs - thats what I care about.
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Soratah
Amarr
Ubiqua Seraph
Aegis Militia
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Posted - 2006.08.07 23:29:00 -
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I vote for fixes, considering the 56 page thread about how Amarr ships are crap and the rants about the Tier 3 Battleships are coming. CCP should fix what we have and rebalance it again before adding new crappy ships, skills, and significant changes that again hose the existing ships and setups.
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Hellspawn01
Amarr
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Posted - 2006.08.07 23:42:00 -
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Originally by: Taaketa Frist
Edited by: Taaketa Frist on 07/08/2006 23:28:25
I use windows 3.1
Pro or server version?
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babylonstew
Caldari
Caldari Scouting and Intel Group
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Posted - 2006.08.08 00:58:00 -
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Originally by: Sharkbait
there are people programming new stuff and people fixing old stuff. there is both happening.
but however, dragon is coming out before kali and dragon has alot of fixes and improvements in it. so yes, there will be fixes before kali. then with kali comes even more fixes and content with lots of sexy stuff.
in dont want to be the guy that rains on everyones bbq, but that sounds to like there is no chance kali 1 is comingm out in september
dragon code isnt even close to being ready by the looks, so you still have to sort that, then release it to TQ, wait until its stable on TQ, then maybe release Kali 1?
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CB Cyrix
GeoTech
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Posted - 2006.08.08 08:27:00 -
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Ive used both 2k and xp, all I can say is:
1. In the 4 years of using 2k ive NEVER had a crash or bluescreen of death. XP took a few hours after it was fully updated.
2. Windows 2k does not get in my way like xp does.
3. Windows 2k is the only MS-OS that doesnt give me stuff I dont want.
Other than that I use arch linux for eve, so I suppose it dont really matter, but for fleet I switch to win2k. But if it goes full XP only I dont see me stay on eve. Coz unless its offering a linux port (which would be better than a 2k version), sticking to XP only and thats it will loose alot of players.
-Taking his YARR Pills Since 2003-
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Tachy
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Posted - 2006.08.08 08:43:00 -
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You can disable the whole fancy stuff in XP - Takes a while, and some parts will be back after the next patchday.
I am currently building a new Linux box after my 400MHz machine broke down earlier this year. It would be really nice if all aspects of EVE would work under Cedega.
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turnschuh
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Posted - 2006.08.08 09:31:00 -
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test server client works just fine here with windows 2000 prof.
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spurious signal
Caldari
Brainiacs
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Posted - 2006.08.08 09:47:00 -
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Originally by: Tachy
Win2k is as close to its official end of lifecycle as XP.
Wrong I'm afraid. You might want to have a look here. Mainstream support for w2k ended on June 30th this year, it's now in what MS call "Extended Support" ie they now charge for support and are in the process of phasing support out completely.
That means no more security patches or fixes for W2K hence it will start to become less and less secure as the months tick by. It means no more support for new hardware. It means other developers will stop making new drivers for it. It means games companies will start to phase out testing for w2k.
Sure this will all take time but it's downhill for w2k from now on I'm afraid. I too resisted the push to XP for quite a while but eventually found it easier to make the move, as a gamer. I don't regret it for an instant, XP is a far superior OS to w2k and despite what you say it IS more secure and stable than w2k now, espcially if you're a gamer.
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Gilbert Drillerson
DarkStar 1
Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2006.08.08 10:07:00 -
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Sorry to post ON topic, but I really have to ask ?
When will we get Dragon Branch on TQ.... and when will we get Kali 1, it seems to me another delay of Kali is in the making.
Yah yah yah... Soon(tm) i know, but I really just HAD to ask :)
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Tachy
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Posted - 2006.08.08 10:36:00 -
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Originally by: spurious signal
Originally by: Tachy
Win2k is as close to its official end of lifecycle as XP.
Wrong I'm afraid. You might want to have a look here. Mainstream support for w2k ended on June 30th this year, [...]
Win2k is a few months over the official (extended) lifecycle, XP is a few months short of the official end. So what?
Buy a new version of Windows for that handful months for a nearly non-existant support I don't need unless I have to contact them for the installation code because I changed some equipment?
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Oveur
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Posted - 2006.08.08 11:09:00 -
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Dragon works for Windows 2000, was a bug in a crypto module which caused incompatibility in one of the builds.
Dragon should be arriving in August, 1-3 weeks from now, depending on testing. Dragon is about 6 months more recent than the current TQ code branch, save a couple of fix patches.
I expect it to be somewhat of a bumpy ride deploying a code branch with so much age difference, which is the main reason we're deploying it seperately from new content and features.
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Braaage
eXceed Inc.
Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2006.08.08 11:17:00 -
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Originally by: Oveur
Dragon works for Windows 2000, was a bug in a crypto module which caused incompatibility in one of the builds.
Dragon should be arriving in August, 1-3 weeks from now, depending on testing. Dragon is about 6 months more recent than the current TQ code branch, save a couple of fix patches.
I expect it to be somewhat of a bumpy ride deploying a code branch with so much age difference, which is the main reason we're deploying it seperately from new content and features.
Is this the new code branch that will accidentally wipe out every bookmark in existence???
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Christopher Scott
Caldari
Vengeance of the Fallen
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Posted - 2006.08.08 11:18:00 -
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Originally by: Oveur
Dragon works for Windows 2000, was a bug in a crypto module which caused incompatibility in one of the builds.
Dragon should be arriving in August, 1-3 weeks from now, depending on testing. Dragon is about 6 months more recent than the current TQ code branch, save a couple of fix patches.
I expect it to be somewhat of a bumpy ride deploying a code branch with so much age difference, which is the main reason we're deploying it seperately from new content and features.
I like it bumpy. Rawr. 
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