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Flashrain
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Posted - 2006.08.07 01:53:00 -
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Including a 17 billion carrier this weekend. One pirate bragged a net profit of 1.5 billion over 2 days.
Tactics used include gate camping, with trial account alts scouting the system on the safe side; scan probes to jump high level mission players; belt hopping to pick off mining cruisers and barges, etc.,.
Their ships of choice are t2 frigates for their scouts, BS for their haulers/scramblers, and t2 cruisers/HACs.
From billions worth motherships down to 8000 isk shuttles, players have been podded and downed left and right.
Some of the most active pirates in Gyerzen are: Aurorapro, Lord Gank, Nephlite, Arabian Goggle, and Mar Idoun.
Any anti pirates care to hang out down at the bottom of Amarrian space for a while?
For everyone else based in tash murkon, watch out for the 40.0z corp.
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Miels
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Posted - 2006.08.07 01:57:00 -
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Everyone likes gyerzen because they get low sec rewards with none of the risk as its surrounded by high sec space.
All I can say is, HAH. HAH. Go mission somewhere dangerous like the rest of the low sec mission runners. (I mission in Curse ftw)
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Frank Horrigan
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Posted - 2006.08.07 02:03:00 -
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Im avalible.. as gyerzen is my favorite system.. used to be angur.. but thats an entirely driffrent story.
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Ange1
Gallente The Establishment
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Posted - 2006.08.07 02:14:00 -
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Ahhh Gyerzen, I have fond and some not so fond memories of that system... 
The Establishment is at your service...
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Syris Anu
Evolutionary Pressure
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Posted - 2006.08.07 02:14:00 -
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Are you really confirming a pirate downing of a mothership? 
If so, in all honesty, kudos to the pirates! Usually, people are complaining that pirates are taking down easy targets (which they have to to stay in business for much of the time). Taking down a mothership would be pure class.
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Flashrain
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Posted - 2006.08.07 02:16:00 -
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Originally by: Miels Everyone likes gyerzen because they get low sec rewards with none of the risk as its surrounded by high sec space.
All I can say is, HAH. HAH. Go mission somewhere dangerous like the rest of the low sec mission runners. (I mission in Curse ftw)
Systems like Gyerzen are transition pockets where week old players can check out the game and learn before devoting to low sec space.
Do you really expect these newbie miners and pilots able to go straight from tutorial to low sec mission runners?
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Flashrain
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Posted - 2006.08.07 02:18:00 -
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Originally by: Syris Anu Are you really confirming a pirate downing of a mothership? 
If so, in all honesty, kudos to the pirates! Usually, people are complaining that pirates are taking down easy targets (which they have to to stay in business for much of the time). Taking down a mothership would be pure class.
It'd be easy to take anyone down with surprise and energy/armor already depleted. Level 4 missions can take a long time, long enough for a pirate to scan probe your location apparently.
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Aeaus
Tharsis Security
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Posted - 2006.08.07 03:18:00 -
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Originally by: Flashrain
Originally by: Syris Anu Are you really confirming a pirate downing of a mothership? 
If so, in all honesty, kudos to the pirates! Usually, people are complaining that pirates are taking down easy targets (which they have to to stay in business for much of the time). Taking down a mothership would be pure class.
It'd be easy to take anyone down with surprise and energy/armor already depleted. Level 4 missions can take a long time, long enough for a pirate to scan probe your location apparently.
How in the hell do you lose a mothership in empire? I am serriously doubting this, and the thread looks like an alt posting on behalf of some pirates to inflate their egos.
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GandolftheWhite
Gallente Angel Deep Corporation
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Posted - 2006.08.07 04:05:00 -
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Heh, someone dumb enough to build a mothership in a secluded low security sysem surrounded by tons of high security systems?
Right.....
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Flashrain
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Posted - 2006.08.07 04:30:00 -
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Originally by: GandolftheWhite Heh, someone dumb enough to build a mothership in a secluded low security sysem surrounded by tons of high security systems?
Right.....
Ask anyone who's been in Gyerzen the past month, cynosural fields were kept up for over a week.
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mazzilliu
Caldari SniggWaffe
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Posted - 2006.08.07 04:32:00 -
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thought you needed sovereignty to make a mothership (as well as a number of other things)
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Aeaus
Tharsis Security
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Posted - 2006.08.07 04:51:00 -
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Originally by: mazzilliu thought you needed sovereignty to make a mothership (as well as a number of other things)
Yes, along with several billion in POS structures and over twenty billion for the components. I highly doubt anybody lost a mothership here =/
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Malthros Zenobia
Caldari Independent Navy Reserve Kimotoro Directive
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Posted - 2006.08.07 05:39:00 -
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Lost a mothership?
No, there'd be DOZENS of forum treads about it.
Carrier? Possibly.
A 17BILLION isk carrier?
I doubt that. You're talking about what is most likely an officer/faction fitted ship, and a Capship with officer fittings would be insanely powerful, and take ages to kill without alot of firepower.
1.5bil profit in 2 days tho? I'm in the wrong business.
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Yarek Balear
Black Omega Security E.R.A
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Posted - 2006.08.07 06:08:00 -
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My guess is the OP misheard MOA for Mother and this is how a thread was born 
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Wild Rho
Amarr Black Omega Security
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Posted - 2006.08.07 07:10:00 -
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With a system like gyerzen it was only a matter of time before it was pirated. Because it is surrounded by high sec space it gives the residents there a sense of safety you don't get in many other low sec systems and so there are plenty of easy pickings.
Well there used to be anyway, if the area gets pirated to heavily people will just move on.
WE ARE DYSLEXIC OF BORG. Refutance is systile. Your ass will be laminated. - Jennie Marlboro
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Arcticblue2
Gallente Nordic Freelancers inc
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Posted - 2006.08.07 10:06:00 -
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Well our corp Nordic Freelancers Inc where wardecced by Lord Gank and his friends less than a week ago, our corp does not have any pvp experience to speak of but hell .. we take a challenge and when the wardec came in people in the corp went "Great, now where did I put that ship..."
So far we have lost 2 battleships, we lost 1 scorpion to a carrier (friends or alt of Lord Gank and his friends, TAOSP) well no problem, it is low sec and anyone that wish to attack can do just so. We have never encountered a carrier like this before and well lesson learned  Second ship we lost where a Typhoon wich was lost due to communicationfailure where it ended up alone at the gate in Dabrid and got attacked by 2 from Lord Ganks corp, once they had popped it and 2 more from our corp warped in they ran away.
Anyway ... lessons is learned here, the war did unite the corp more and people are willing to learn. ---------------------------------------------- "When I was a child, I spoke as a child, I felt as a child, I thought as a child: now that I am become a man, I have put away childish things." 1 cor. |

Fryd
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Posted - 2006.08.07 10:13:00 -
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TAOSP you guys owe me 66 million isk for the repairs I had to do on my Freighter you shot at in Gyerzen!!! and even have the nerves to demand ransom for safepassage.
Ofcourse I can't trust you guys, after all bumping me so I could not warp out, or dock where not enough you had to try and kill me wich you failed to do!!! and thank god for that where items worth 2 billion isk or more in that one.
Only reason you guys wanted a ransom was because you failed to kill me, and did make comments about you where determend or could be very determend to not let my Freighter out of Gyerzen... You even failed in that task as well!!! Freighter is out of Gyerzen.
BTW.. you owe me a new pair of pants too, think I almost **** myself that night!!!! 
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Farjung
Gallente Sharks With Frickin' Laser Beams Mercenary Coalition
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Posted - 2006.08.07 11:20:00 -
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Originally by: Flashrain are transition pockets where week old players can check out the game and learn before devoting to low sec space.
And there I was thinking that people stuck around in Gyerzen in their Apocalypse Navy Issues, Machariels, Archons, etc because it had one of the best level 4 agents for the Amarr Navy. 
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Alasse Cuthalion
TAOSP
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Posted - 2006.08.07 11:30:00 -
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Edited by: Alasse Cuthalion on 07/08/2006 11:29:59 aah, so many tin foil hats and so little fact, lets diffuse a little of it shall we?
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2006.08.06 03:47
Victim: Censored Alliance: Censored Corp: Censored Destroyed: Archon System: Gyerzen Security: 0.4
Involved parties:
Name: Gallente Navy Megathron / Gallente Federation
Name: Kurenin (laid the final blow) Security: 0.0 Alliance: None Corp: TAOSP Ship: Censored Weapon: Censored
Name: Nephlite Security: 1.5 Alliance: None Corp: TAOSP Ship: Censored Weapon: Censored
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ERGONOMIC
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Posted - 2006.08.07 11:54:00 -
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Please could you also post the fitting / items in this carrier ? according to the crazy tank of the Amarr carrier its hard to beleive 2 people kill execpted if he was fitted with Mining Setup :p
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Hauler Ex
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Posted - 2006.08.07 12:31:00 -
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Originally by: Alasse Cuthalion
Involved parties:
Name: Gallente Navy Megathron / Gallente Federation
as you can see they got a bit of help and an archon, a vindicator and some mission rats can kill an archon pretty easily 
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Alasse Cuthalion
TAOSP
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Posted - 2006.08.07 12:32:00 -
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Quote:
Destroyed items:
Sensor Booster II Capital Armor Repairer I Acolyte I, Qty: 32 (Drone Bay) Berserker I, Qty: 9 (Drone Bay) Wasp I (Drone Bay) Wasp I (Drone Bay) Wasp I (Drone Bay) Wasp I (Drone Bay) Wasp I (Drone Bay) Wasp I (Drone Bay) Berserker I (Drone Bay) Praetor I (Drone Bay) Vespa I (Drone Bay) Vespa I (Drone Bay) Vespa I (Drone Bay) Wasp I (Drone Bay) Wasp I (Drone Bay) Wasp I (Drone Bay) Wasp I (Drone Bay) Vespa I (Drone Bay) Vespa I (Drone Bay) Hammerhead I (Drone Bay) Wasp I (Drone Bay) Wasp I (Drone Bay) Wasp I (Drone Bay) Wasp I (Drone Bay) Wasp I (Drone Bay) Wasp I (Drone Bay) Wasp I (Drone Bay) Wasp I (Drone Bay) Wasp I (Drone Bay) Wasp I (Drone Bay) Large Rudimentary Concussion Bomb I Vespa I, Qty: 46 (Drone Bay) Wasp I (Drone Bay) Hammerhead I, Qty: 58 (Drone Bay) Capital Armor Repairer I Wasp I (Drone Bay) Wasp I (Drone Bay) Wasp I (Drone Bay) Wasp I (Drone Bay) Wasp I (Drone Bay) Wasp I (Drone Bay) Wasp I (Drone Bay) Wasp I (Drone Bay) Infiltrator I, Qty: 43 (Drone Bay) Armor Explosive Hardener II Armor Kinetic Hardener II Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II Armor Thermic Hardener II Wasp I (Drone Bay) Vespa I (Drone Bay) Vespa I (Drone Bay) Vespa I (Drone Bay) Wasp I (Drone Bay) Wasp I (Drone Bay) Wasp I (Drone Bay) Wasp I (Drone Bay) Praetor I (Drone Bay) Warrior I (Drone Bay) Warrior I (Drone Bay) Warrior I (Drone Bay) Hobgoblin I (Drone Bay) Hobgoblin I (Drone Bay) Hobgoblin I (Drone Bay) Praetor I (Drone Bay) Praetor I (Drone Bay) Praetor I (Drone Bay) Praetor I (Drone Bay) Praetor I (Drone Bay) Hobgoblin I (Drone Bay) Hobgoblin I (Drone Bay) Hornet I, Qty: 5 (Drone Bay) Large I-ax Regenerative Projector Cap Recharger II Cap Recharger II Valkyrie I, Qty: 7 (Drone Bay) Hobgoblin I (Drone Bay) Hobgoblin I (Drone Bay) Hobgoblin I (Drone Bay) Hobgoblin I (Drone Bay) Hobgoblin I (Drone Bay) Hobgoblin I (Drone Bay) Wasp I (Drone Bay) Wasp I (Drone Bay) Ogre I (Drone Bay) Wasp I (Drone Bay) Wasp I (Drone Bay) Wasp I (Drone Bay) Praetor I (Drone Bay) Firbolg (Drone Bay) Firbolg (Drone Bay) Firbolg (Drone Bay) Firbolg (Drone Bay) Firbolg (Drone Bay) Firbolg (Drone Bay) Firbolg (Drone Bay)
You can kill anything with just about anything if you know how ;)
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Rawthorm
Gallente The Establishment
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Posted - 2006.08.07 12:49:00 -
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You probably would have been better off ransoming that carrier 
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OrangeAfroMan
Suffoco Noctis Atrocitas
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Posted - 2006.08.07 15:08:00 -
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Originally by: Aeaus
Originally by: Flashrain
Originally by: Syris Anu Are you really confirming a pirate downing of a mothership? 
If so, in all honesty, kudos to the pirates! Usually, people are complaining that pirates are taking down easy targets (which they have to to stay in business for much of the time). Taking down a mothership would be pure class.
It'd be easy to take anyone down with surprise and energy/armor already depleted. Level 4 missions can take a long time, long enough for a pirate to scan probe your location apparently.
How in the hell do you lose a mothership in empire? I am serriously doubting this, and the thread looks like an alt posting on behalf of some pirates to inflate their egos.
QFT I'd say its a pirate alt post :l
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Aeaus
Tharsis Security
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Posted - 2006.08.07 15:56:00 -
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Originally by: Rawthorm You probably would have been better off ransoming that carrier 
Judging by the fact it had fighters in the bay, they might have been worried about getting ganked while trying.
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Rawthorm
Gallente The Establishment
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Posted - 2006.08.08 00:35:00 -
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Originally by: Aeaus
Originally by: Rawthorm You probably would have been better off ransoming that carrier 
Judging by the fact it had fighters in the bay, they might have been worried about getting ganked while trying.
Tsk, some people have no balls 
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arkarsk
Provenance.
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Posted - 2006.08.08 03:02:00 -
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Now, why arent Ion that list of pirates?
This is an outrage!
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Buraken v2
Amarr Amarr Defence Initiative
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Posted - 2006.08.08 08:41:00 -
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Haha dayumn, I should go back to that system, all the fun happens when I am gone as usual =/
Quote: Mail from: Houvire Takaerne
2006.06.06 19:25 Our research has been fruity. If you're interested, I believe I have found what might be a banana in the corner of my office draw.
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Horatio Nately
Caldari Battlefodder Inc The Red Skull
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Posted - 2006.08.08 09:12:00 -
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Originally by: Fryd TAOSP you guys owe me 66 million isk for the repairs I had to do on my Freighter you shot at in Gyerzen!!! and even have the nerves to demand ransom for safepassage.
Ofcourse I can't trust you guys, after all bumping me so I could not warp out, or dock where not enough you had to try and kill me wich you failed to do!!! and thank god for that where items worth 2 billion isk or more in that one.
Only reason you guys wanted a ransom was because you failed to kill me, and did make comments about you where determend or could be very determend to not let my Freighter out of Gyerzen... You even failed in that task as well!!! Freighter is out of Gyerzen.
BTW.. you owe me a new pair of pants too, think I almost **** myself that night!!!! 
1. You're the one insane (or dumb) enough to pilot a damn freighter through low sec. 2. Antipirates are bull **** they're just as bad as normal pirates except its more OMG YOU HAVE LOW SEC of -0.1 SO YOU DIE!!!
I really wish they'd stop hiding behind titles and say we blow everyone up that we can get away with.
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Buraken v2
Amarr Amarr Defence Initiative
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Posted - 2006.08.08 09:16:00 -
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Originally by: Horatio Nately
Originally by: Fryd TAOSP you guys owe me 66 million isk for the repairs I had to do on my Freighter you shot at in Gyerzen!!! and even have the nerves to demand ransom for safepassage.
Ofcourse I can't trust you guys, after all bumping me so I could not warp out, or dock where not enough you had to try and kill me wich you failed to do!!! and thank god for that where items worth 2 billion isk or more in that one.
Only reason you guys wanted a ransom was because you failed to kill me, and did make comments about you where determend or could be very determend to not let my Freighter out of Gyerzen... You even failed in that task as well!!! Freighter is out of Gyerzen.
BTW.. you owe me a new pair of pants too, think I almost **** myself that night!!!! 
1. You're the one insane (or dumb) enough to pilot a damn freighter through low sec. 2. Antipirates are bull **** they're just as bad as normal pirates except its more OMG YOU HAVE LOW SEC of -0.1 SO YOU DIE!!!
I really wish they'd stop hiding behind titles and say we blow everyone up that we can get away with.
Big barkin' 
Pirating - easy mode
anti pirating - hard mode
Quote: Mail from: Houvire Takaerne
2006.06.06 19:25 Our research has been fruity. If you're interested, I believe I have found what might be a banana in the corner of my office draw.
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Fryd
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Posted - 2006.08.08 09:18:00 -
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Edited by: Fryd on 08/08/2006 09:19:55
Originally by: Horatio Nately
Originally by: Fryd TAOSP you guys owe me 66 million isk for the repairs I had to do on my Freighter you shot at in Gyerzen!!! and even have the nerves to demand ransom for safepassage.
Ofcourse I can't trust you guys, after all bumping me so I could not warp out, or dock where not enough you had to try and kill me wich you failed to do!!! and thank god for that where items worth 2 billion isk or more in that one.
Only reason you guys wanted a ransom was because you failed to kill me, and did make comments about you where determend or could be very determend to not let my Freighter out of Gyerzen... You even failed in that task as well!!! Freighter is out of Gyerzen.
BTW.. you owe me a new pair of pants too, think I almost **** myself that night!!!! 
1. You're the one insane (or dumb) enough to pilot a damn freighter through low sec. 2. Antipirates are bull **** they're just as bad as normal pirates except its more OMG YOU HAVE LOW SEC of -0.1 SO YOU DIE!!!
I really wish they'd stop hiding behind titles and say we blow everyone up that we can get away with.
Felt quite confident I would get out of there might be abit insane as well hehe.
Did I mention that the ship where no insured ? and talking about insurance... how stupid is it that I bought the ship at like 950 million or so, now if I insure it I have to pay 230 million for platinum and I get less than 800 million back.
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ERGONOMIC
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Posted - 2006.08.08 09:23:00 -
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why you have deleted the fitting ?
from what i have seen the guy was using only T2 stuffs,
>> and was having one med an one low slot empty ??
also the complete fitting was very basic (no cap injector by sample)
maybe he was just testing his new ship / fitting
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Lucre
STK Scientific Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2006.08.08 09:57:00 -
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Originally by: Farjung
Originally by: Flashrain are transition pockets where week old players can check out the game and learn before devoting to low sec space.
And there I was thinking that people stuck around in Gyerzen in their Apocalypse Navy Issues, Machariels, Archons, etc because it had one of the best level 4 agents for the Amarr Navy. 
Actually, it has two (or used to anyway!). Plus a third right next door in Dabrid, and a fourth 3 jumps up the chain in Mani. I always used to think of it as Amarr Navy Alley. 
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Twilight Moon
Minmatar eXceed Inc. Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2006.08.08 10:30:00 -
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Pirates have been camping there for days now.
Why are people still getting ganked? Why would you stay in a pirate camped, dead end, low sec system?
And for people to be still running missions there? Are you thick?
...on the other hand using a banana might be a viable alternative.
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Jimmy Doe
Caldari Bladerunners Mordus Angels
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Posted - 2006.08.08 11:27:00 -
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Originally by: Flashrain Edited by: Flashrain on 07/08/2006 01:54:15 Including a 17 billion carrier this weekend. One pirate bragged a net profit of 1.5 billion over 2 days.
Tactics used include gate camping, with trial account alts scouting the system on the safe side; scan probes to jump high level mission players; belt hopping to pick off mining cruisers and barges, etc.,.
Their ships of choice are t2 frigates for their scouts, BS for their haulers/scramblers, and t2 cruisers/HACs.
From billions worth motherships down to 8000 isk shuttles, players have been podded and downed left and right.
Some of the most active pirates in Gyerzen are: Aurorapro, Lord Gank, Nephlite, Arabian Goggle, and Mar Idoun.
Any anti pirates care to hang out down at the bottom of Amarrian space for a while?
For everyone else based in tash murkon, watch out for the 40.0z corp.
i seriously doubt any of the pirates there have ever seen a mothership. they are very few and far between. so that is a lie.
Originally by: Syris Anu Are you really confirming a pirate downing of a mothership? 
If so, in all honesty, kudos to the pirates! Usually, people are complaining that pirates are taking down easy targets (which they have to to stay in business for much of the time). Taking down a mothership would be pure class.
It'd be easy to take anyone down with surprise and energy/armor already depleted. Level 4 missions can take a long time, long enough for a pirate to scan probe your location apparently.
even if there happened to be a MS there you cant warp scramble it.
50% bonus to Energy and Shield transfer range per level 5% bonus to all Shield resistances per level 99% reduction in CPU need for Clone Vat Bay 99% reduction in CPU need for Warfare Link modules Can deploy 3 additional Fighters per level Can fit 1 additional Warfare Link module per level 200% bonus to Fighter control range Immune to all forms of Electronic Warfare"
with carrier 5 thats 20 drones to use not much can stand up to that i dont care what you are in anything other than a very fast inty will die.
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Farjung
Gallente Sharks With Frickin' Laser Beams Mercenary Coalition
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Posted - 2006.08.08 11:28:00 -
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Originally by: ERGONOMIC so maybe 200 M fitting for a 1B ship ? O.o
>> and was having one med an one low slot empty ??
Kill mail was probably deleted by mods, they don't like that sort of thing. Google the taosp killboard and you'll find it.
Kill mails only show what was destroyed, not the whole fitting, so the missing mid and low slot items were left in the can.
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ERGONOMIC
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Posted - 2006.08.08 11:40:00 -
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thanks i see :)
Also seems one website for reshearch on this forum have a sort of "backup" / delayed display so it's possible to see things before they disapear ;)
Anyway i wonder why the sentry - gallente was included in the kill mail, any "other" basic thing i missed ? O.o
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Kurenin
Amarr
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Posted - 2006.08.08 11:41:00 -
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The carrier was in his mission, with no NPCs, with his fighters out.
I scrambled him with my carrier and started to blow up his fighters (he pulled them back in after losing one), I then switched from heavy drones over to fighters and started shooting the carrier itself, at this point the Vindicator warps in with nos ready and begins draining the carrier.
Carrier drops his drones again and attacks the Vindicator but, due to multiple reasons, is unable to break the tank. He pulls his fighters in once again. This is repeated several times until he has no cap and dies. The fight lasted around five minutes and both sides started with full shields armour and structure - the NPCs were in no way helping either side as the mission had been completed around ten minutes previously.
As for ransoming? Why would I do that? It had the potential to drop decent loot so I was curious to see what it would drop.
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Kurenin
Amarr
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Posted - 2006.08.08 11:42:00 -
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PS, this will be included in a video when I finally get some decent fights. (I've got around an hour of fraps footage but nothing is spectacular).
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Lord WarATron
Amarr Out Siders Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2006.08.08 11:45:00 -
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Originally by: Twilight Moon Pirates have been camping there for days now.
Why are people still getting ganked? Why would you stay in a pirate camped, dead end, low sec system?
And for people to be still running missions there? Are you thick?
Pirates invade - thats life in low sec. In the past it was fairly easy to catch people since the pirates of the past did honerable PvPing, heck even Blackbeard's half assed, though honerable antics made us all laugh. However, pvp has now changed and if the pirates do cheezy tactics, then people move 1j to Dabrid and start mission running there for pretty much the same rewards.
But the number of BoB Pilots who leave to form a BoB Alt corp to pirate in, then one assumes return therafter, is what is spoiling the game a bit - I lot of people do not know that most of the pirates throught Gyerzen's History have been BoB Pilots - And not all of them post their killmails either when their zealots, stabbed up vagabonds or pilgrims get ganked, for example.
The last half decent pirate force was Macro Media and his group of several merc corps. His final words to me words were indeed correct. He stated that the end of decent piracy ended with his podding, and that from that day on, it was only a matter of time before the cheezy guys in Alliance-alt corps come in. I guess he was right after all.
But then again Twilight Moon, you may not understand the concept, given your post here --- Slot 10 Akemons Modified 'Noble'Zet 5000 implant +8% Armour FREE |
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Alasse Cuthalion
TAOSP
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Posted - 2006.08.08 12:04:00 -
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Originally by: Lord WarATron
But the number of BoB Pilots who leave to form a BoB Alt corp to pirate in, then one assumes return therafter, is what is spoiling the game a bit - I lot of people do not know that most of the pirates throught Gyerzen's History have been BoB Pilots - And not all of them post their killmails either when their zealots, stabbed up vagabonds or pilgrims get ganked, for example.
Excuse me?
TAOSP is not an alt corp, we were in Gyerzen months ago creative shopping whilst we were still in Evol too, why would we then leave, 'join an alt corp' and come back to do the same? Your logic is flawed sir.
TAOSP is a part of BoB, we're just not in the IGA right now and nobody will be leaving in the forseeable future.
I would also like to clarify that nobody in TAOSP uses wcs, nor have we even used a Vaga, Zealot or Pilgrim at any point during our stays in Gyerzen. If a member of any BoB corp fails to post a loss mail contact a director from the relevant corp and it will be dealt with.
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Juan Andalusian
TAOSP
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Posted - 2006.08.08 12:07:00 -
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Originally by: Lord WarATron Edited by: Lord WarATron on 08/08/2006 11:49:39
Originally by: Twilight Moon Pirates have been camping there for days now.
Why are people still getting ganked? Why would you stay in a pirate camped, dead end, low sec system?
And for people to be still running missions there? Are you thick?
Pirates invade - thats life in low sec. In the past it was fairly easy to catch people since the pirates of the past did honerable PvPing, heck even Blackbeard's half assed, though honerable antics made us all laugh. However, pvp has now changed and if the pirates do cheezy tactics, then people move 1j to Dabrid and start mission running there for pretty much the same rewards.
But the number of BoB Pilots who leave to form a BoB Alt corp to pirate in, then one assumes return therafter, is what is spoiling the game a bit - I lot of people do not know that most of the pirates throught Gyerzen's History have been BoB Pilots - And not all of them post their killmails either when their zealots, stabbed up vagabonds or pilgrims get ganked, for example.
The last half decent pirate force was Macro Media and his group of several merc corps. His final words to me words were indeed correct. He stated that the end of decent piracy ended with his podding, and that from that day on, it was only a matter of time before the cheezy guys in Alliance-alt corps come in. I guess he was right after all.
But then again Twilight Moon, you may not understand the concept, given your post here and Here
1) We are not pirates.
2) We are definately not alts.
3) Killmails, lossmails, loveletters, paper napkins with Kurenin's poems scribbled on em are all where they should be.
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Kaeten
Hybrid Syndicate
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Posted - 2006.08.08 12:38:00 -
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Originally by: Buraken v2
Originally by: Horatio Nately
Originally by: Fryd TAOSP you guys owe me 66 million isk for the repairs I had to do on my Freighter you shot at in Gyerzen!!! and even have the nerves to demand ransom for safepassage.
Ofcourse I can't trust you guys, after all bumping me so I could not warp out, or dock where not enough you had to try and kill me wich you failed to do!!! and thank god for that where items worth 2 billion isk or more in that one.
Only reason you guys wanted a ransom was because you failed to kill me, and did make comments about you where determend or could be very determend to not let my Freighter out of Gyerzen... You even failed in that task as well!!! Freighter is out of Gyerzen.
BTW.. you owe me a new pair of pants too, think I almost **** myself that night!!!! 
1. You're the one insane (or dumb) enough to pilot a damn freighter through low sec. 2. Antipirates are bull **** they're just as bad as normal pirates except its more OMG YOU HAVE LOW SEC of -0.1 SO YOU DIE!!!
I really wish they'd stop hiding behind titles and say we blow everyone up that we can get away with.
Big barkin' 
Pirating - easy mode
anti pirating - hard mode
So tanking sentrys while trying to kill your opponent AND the fact that everywhere you go it's like 0.0 plus your stuck in soem systems is easy mode... ok...
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Fryd
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Posted - 2006.08.08 13:37:00 -
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Originally by: Juan Andalusian
1) We are not pirates.
2) We are definately not alts.
3) Killmails, lossmails, loveletters, paper napkins with Kurenin's poems scribbled on em are all where they should be.
Well you guys are definitly pirates, you tried to kill my freighter, when that failed you tried to ransom me to let me out of the system unharmed. Ofcourse I can't trust you guys... you tried to pirate me in a poor way.
BTW... you guys owe me 66 million isk in repairbills... oh and a new pair of pants.
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Twilight Moon
Minmatar eXceed Inc. Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2006.08.08 14:59:00 -
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Originally by: Lord WarATron But then again Twilight Moon, you may not understand the concept, given your post here and Here
I fail to see how this is relevant to the topic at hand. I was wondering why mission runners havent bothered to vacate the system yet and are still getting ganked. I used to live in Gyerzen, and when there was pirates about it was generally pretty well known, and I just didn't go in there until they'd moved on.
Anyway, how can you critcise me for advocating blob tactics against pirates when all we do as ASCN member is generally blob anyone that enters our territory? I wasnt a member is ASCN back when I typed that post in case thats the issue you're getting at.
However I still stand by the idea that if you arrange a fight vs an enemy and you have the potential to screw them over mid-fight by warping reinforcements in, then you should do so. I've done it several times now, and it is highly effective. I'm not one for all this "honourable PvP" crap. In my opinion the end result is more important than the method you go about achieving it.
...on the other hand using a banana might be a viable alternative.
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Aeaus
Tharsis Security
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Posted - 2006.08.08 16:12:00 -
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Originally by: Kaeten So tanking sentrys while trying to kill your opponent AND the fact that everywhere you go it's like 0.0 plus your stuck in soem systems is easy mode... ok...
Being at a gate minding your own business with a -1.0 security status when an anti-pie attacks you and dies to the sentry gun - easy mode. 

No I don't have the killmail, sentries got final blow 
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Aralt Aran
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Posted - 2006.08.08 20:00:00 -
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Anyway, how can you critcise me for advocating blob tactics against pirates when all we do as ASCN member is generally blob anyone that enters our territory? I wasnt a member is ASCN back when I typed that post in case thats the issue you're getting at.
Well since you left gyerzen ,a little update ,mission runners now have to fight against carriers and all those other big nasty ships that ccp did bring out for the older eve member. And a pirat in a carrier is god in low sec mission runner systems ,i wanna thank ccp for there ideas how to get newbies and other guys in low space.
And a mission fitting,isn`t a pvp fitting .And you can`t fit both .I even lost a machariel ,how? a Bob did jumped in a mission with a carrier .And i wanna thank ccp also for there alts when this goes on eve will be a roten place.Maybe in the past it was usefull when you hade 3 names ,but i don`t see that now today .The game is almost not play-able with all those alts sitting in a station or outside or cloaked ,when you move a finger they know .
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Twilight Moon
Minmatar eXceed Inc. Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2006.08.08 20:29:00 -
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Originally by: Aralt Aran Well since you left gyerzen ,a little update ,mission runners now have to fight against carriers and all those other big nasty ships that ccp did bring out for the older eve member. And a pirat in a carrier is god in low sec mission runner systems ,i wanna thank ccp for there ideas how to get newbies and other guys in low space.
And a mission fitting,isn`t a pvp fitting .And you can`t fit both .I even lost a machariel ,how? a Bob did jumped in a mission with a carrier .And i wanna thank ccp also for there alts when this goes on eve will be a roten place.Maybe in the past it was usefull when you hade 3 names ,but i don`t see that now today .The game is almost not play-able with all those alts sitting in a station or outside or cloaked ,when you move a finger they know .
I think you missed the point. If a pirate turns up in system, you dont try to finish off your mission, you get your arse out of there asap. If you runs missions there regularly you should have instas set up to facilitate this.
For a "BoB ALT" to be able to scan you down and warp in on you, they would have had to be in system for a reasonably long ammount of time.
So no....missions runners don't "have to" fight against Carriers. You cant force PvP onto people in this game in a system like Gyerzen, which used to have very good intelligence back when I used to mine there. If someone says a pirate is in system, and you choose to ass about and not dock or insta out, then you've lost your ship through your own choice.
Does the Gyerzen anti-pirate force no longer exist or something? For a carrier to get into the system a Cyno would have to be opened. Any open cynos that you dont know who owns them should be checked out. If a carrier pilot jumps in, you know about it, and you know the pilots name. If he logs in, in system, you get your ass out of there.
...on the other hand using a banana might be a viable alternative.
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Lord WarATron
Amarr Out Siders Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2006.08.08 22:09:00 -
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Im in agreement with Twilight with this one - Keep your scanner open and check every 30-60 seconds and as soon as you see scan probes within 3au, just instadock for a while, make a sandwich then go back to your mission after 10 to 15 mins and repeat. - It wastes their time and makes you pretty much invurnerable to being pirated in a mission. Of course, I am pretty sure blockade missions would be out of the question!
Also, people should drop a relay and put in a wcs or two - NPC scram does not stack so even if you have 20 NPC's with 1pt of scram on you, you can still warp out with no issues, or so it would appear. Of course, a NPC that does 2pt scram base, such as Zor, means you need 2wcs, but hey thats life.
Also, what the guy was refering to was the sheer number of Trial alts, NPC corp probers etc etc. Who knows how many of them are real or not, but I would be safe to say, there is Trail Account abuse going on from someone, whichever side they may be on.
I am not pointing any fingers at the corp that is doing this, but there are login tactics going on which where the loggers just use the npc corp alt to probe then mass login and warp to the target. This is the old Yaerhar tactic if I remember as to trick people into thinking the pirates are not on. Like I said, you will never get pirated in a mission if you use your scanner to check for scan probes. --- Slot 10 Akemons Modified 'Noble'Zet 5000 implant +8% Armour FREE |

Arcticblue2
Gallente Nordic Freelancers inc
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Posted - 2006.08.09 08:48:00 -
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While I'm now in around Gyerzen because of the war with Oz.40 corp but on my regular missionspots I regular get jumped by pirates... only times they have actually cought me where when I where abit afk !!!! None of the times I have been in my fightingship they have caught me only when I'm in a hauler.
Instant bookmarks are your friend, lined up towards planets, gates of stations are your friend that way if you see a red target enter your Deadspace mission ... you can instant warp away before he can lock you.
Several friends in cloaked ships at the entrypoint... might also be your friend they can't see the cloaked ships before it is too late.
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