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Varesk
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Posted - 2014.09.25 11:09:00 -
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So you want to make an Instance in Eve which allows two player to fight. I don't understand why this is even in development. This idea is everything that Eve isn't. Eve isn't fair, Eve isn't safe. Its one server where anyone can shoot anyone. You are basically taking one of the core values of the game and smashing it with a Theme park MMO hammer.
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Varesk
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Black Legion.
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Posted - 2014.09.25 11:16:00 -
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CCP Goliath wrote:Precision Zero wrote:Where is the dislike button? I think it starts to display once you've actually tried the feature 
why try a feature that has no reason even being in a prototype stage. Eve isn't an instanced theme park mmo. |
Varesk
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Black Legion.
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Posted - 2014.09.25 11:21:00 -
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Steve Ronuken wrote:
This isn't a way to get rid of non-consensual PvP. It's a way to let people have consensual fights in a place where loss is meaningful.
There's an appetite for it, after all. (See RvB, for example).
Yes it is a way to get rid of it. The two pilots end up in an instance on TQ. If you want to do this, go on the TEST server or find a SS. Eve is about risks, and this take a lot of the risk out of Eve.
Red vs. Blue is doing it right, if i come across a red dude shooting a blue dude, i can lock and shoot one or rep the other. |
Varesk
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Black Legion.
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Posted - 2014.09.25 11:30:00 -
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Steppa Musana wrote:Varesk wrote: So you want to make an Instance in Eve which allows two player to fight. I don't understand why this is even in development. This idea is everything that Eve isn't. Eve isn't fair, Eve isn't safe. Its one server where anyone can shoot anyone. You are basically taking one of the core values of the game and smashing it with a Theme park MMO hammer.
Reminds me of the same argument Americans use whenever new laws are enacted. "Some guy 300 years ago created a set of rules, how dare we even consider breaking those rules!"Ideas evolve. This doesn't take away a single facet of the game, it simply adds the ability for two willing parties to engage one another without the chance of trickery. One might argue this separates them from the EVE universe and so another person - unrelated - would not have the ability to interfere if he so pleased. This is wishful thinking. Two parties can already warp to a safe and engage in a duel, thus not allowing anyone else to realistically interfere. All this does is removes the ability for one of the parties to use trickery in gaining an advantage. That is something they are agreeing to, which is their right. Stop trying to force us to play by your ideas, when nothing we are doing is affecting you.
First of all, Your slander against "Americans" is uncalled for. This isnt a country vs. country thing. This is a core vaule of Eve being changed. Eve isnt an "Instanced game". Eve is a single shard server where anyone can do anything to anyone. If you add an "Instance" to Eve, you are taking one of the very unique things about this game away from it.
There are already options in this game for 1v1 combat. The tools are there for the game to remain a single sharded universe where if i choose, i can jump in to someones fight and give them another KM or blow them both up.
Sorry you cant handle the harsh universe that is New Eden.
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Varesk
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Black Legion.
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Posted - 2014.09.25 12:25:00 -
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CCP Veritas wrote:
In the meantime I would very much like to invite people to give it a spin before they judge too deeply. There's a lot of jumping to conclusions going on in here.
You are making an instance. This inst jumping to conclusions. If you put two players in a system where no one can warp to them, that is an Instance, which you are making.
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Varesk
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Black Legion.
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Posted - 2014.09.25 14:55:00 -
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mynnna wrote:
Oooooooh SNAP
Anyone opposed to this is pretty much dumb, sorry. This is the most eve-like implementation of "structured fights" that you can possibly get, and it's awesome. There's simply no room for any other opinion.
no its not awesome and nothing about it is "eve-like". if it was "eve-like" i could scan out the combatants and warp to them.
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Varesk
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Posted - 2014.09.25 15:04:00 -
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Bamboozlement wrote:
This is a sandbox, your way to play is not the only way to play deal with it and adapt brobro.
adding instances is not a sandbox, that is a theme park. |
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