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AeonOfTime
Syrkos Technologies
Joint Venture Conglomerate
14
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Posted - 2014.09.26 15:21:00 -
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Hi everyone, quite some time ago I made a printable cheat sheet for the damage types of the major NPC factions you can encounter. I've updated it again and thought I'd share.
Features:
- NPC Damage Types
- NPC Weaknesses (primary & secondary)
- Drones to use (primary & secondary)
- Countermeasures for electronic warfare
- Alternate compact versions
- Easy printing with PDF format
It exists in three variants:
- "Regular", with all information
- "Compact", without the drones block
- "Pure", without drones or countermeasures
You can download it from its official site:
http://www.aeonoftime.com/EVE_Online_Tools/EVE-NPC-Damage-Types-Cheat-Sheet
Thanks for reading!
- Aeon. |
Forlorn Blade
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
0
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Posted - 2014.09.26 17:35:00 -
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Thanks! Replacing my old printout right now :)
The secondary damage is nice, didn't think there would be that much thermal. |
Ralph King-Griffin
Lords.Of.Midnight
The Devil's Warrior Alliance
5214
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Posted - 2014.09.26 17:38:00 -
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does this mean i can start giving out to people for having it in their bio?
=]I[= |
AeonOfTime
Syrkos Technologies
Joint Venture Conglomerate
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Posted - 2014.09.26 17:50:00 -
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Ralph King-Griffin wrote:does this mean i can start giving out to people for having it in their bio?
You lost me there. |
Ralph King-Griffin
Lords.Of.Midnight
The Devil's Warrior Alliance
5217
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Posted - 2014.09.26 17:55:00 -
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AeonOfTime wrote:Ralph King-Griffin wrote:does this mean i can start giving out to people for having it in their bio? You lost me there.
id say about half the people whos bio i have glanced at have the npc damage types there.
=]I[= |
Remiel Pollard
Shock Treatment Ministries
5498
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Posted - 2014.09.26 17:58:00 -
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Ralph King-Griffin wrote:AeonOfTime wrote:Ralph King-Griffin wrote:does this mean i can start giving out to people for having it in their bio? You lost me there. id say about half the people whos bio i have glanced at have the npc damage types there.
If there's ever any confusion, the damage types in my bio are spot on.
GÇ£Some capsuleers claim that ECM is 'dishonorable' and 'unfair'.
Jam those ones first, and kill them last.GÇ¥
- Jirai 'Fatal' Laitanen, Pithum Nullifier Training Manual c. YC104 |
AeonOfTime
Syrkos Technologies
Joint Venture Conglomerate
18
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Posted - 2014.09.26 18:02:00 -
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Ralph King-Griffin wrote:id say about half the people whos bio i have glanced at have the npc damage types there.
Heh, that's flattering! I didn't see any myself so far :| If you see some who use an older link, I would definitely appreciate if you can give out the new link. I made the dedicated site especially to have one official download location to keep track of changes.
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Chainsaw Plankton
IDLE GUNS
IDLE EMPIRE
638
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Posted - 2014.09.26 18:09:00 -
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nice info to have, but my preferred damage type is MORE!
I'll join the chorus asking CCP, don't take my fancy names away from me!
In the name of the Limos, the Malkuth, and the Arbalest, so help me pod
- Mara Rinn |
AeonOfTime
Syrkos Technologies
Joint Venture Conglomerate
19
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Posted - 2014.09.26 18:10:00 -
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Remiel Pollard wrote:If there's ever any confusion, the damage types in my bio are spot on.
Hah :D
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Yourmoney Mywallet
Jita Institute of Applied Monetary Manipulation
96
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Posted - 2014.09.26 18:28:00 -
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AeonOfTime wrote:Ralph King-Griffin wrote:id say about half the people whos bio i have glanced at have the npc damage types there. Heh, that's flattering! I didn't see any myself so far :| If you see some who use an older link, I would definitely appreciate if you can give out the new link. I made the dedicated site especially to have one official download location to keep track of changes.
He's not talking about your chart, specifically. He's talking about all those guys who have the NPC damage types listed in their bio. Which is about, well,... about half the people whos bio i have glanced at. |
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Paranoid Loyd
1981
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Posted - 2014.09.26 18:31:00 -
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Yourmoney Mywallet wrote:AeonOfTime wrote:Ralph King-Griffin wrote:id say about half the people whos bio i have glanced at have the npc damage types there. Heh, that's flattering! I didn't see any myself so far :| If you see some who use an older link, I would definitely appreciate if you can give out the new link. I made the dedicated site especially to have one official download location to keep track of changes. He's not talking about your chart, specifically. He's talking about all those guys who have the NPC damage types listed in their bio. Which is about, well,... about half the people whos bio i have glanced at.
This one is my favorite.
"PvE in EVE is a trap to turn you into PvP content, don't confuse it for actual gameplay." Lipbite |
AeonOfTime
Syrkos Technologies
Joint Venture Conglomerate
20
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Posted - 2014.09.26 18:52:00 -
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That's definitely a good one.
Yourmoney Mywallet wrote:He's not talking about your chart, specifically. He's talking about all those guys who have the NPC damage types listed in their bio. Which is about, well,... about half the people whos bio i have glanced at.
Aye, thanks for hitting me over the head with the obvious - I need a fix of coffee. NOW. |
Korsiri
Epilogue Enterprises
113
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Posted - 2014.09.26 19:17:00 -
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it is indeed in people's bios... I stole it from my hubby for my missioner too, but still kudos for the DL - I like stuff in writing myself. |
Ix Method
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
173
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Posted - 2014.09.26 19:27:00 -
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Aren't you supposed to shoot Thermal at Mordus? Too lazy to test it but always thought that was the case.
Travelling at the speed of love. |
DeMichael Crimson
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
29513
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Posted - 2014.09.26 21:59:00 -
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AeonOfTime wrote:Hi everyone, quite some time ago I made a printable cheat sheet for the damage types of the major NPC factions you can encounter. I've updated it again and thought I'd share. Features:
- NPC Damage Types
- NPC Weaknesses (primary & secondary)
- Drones to use (primary & secondary)
- Countermeasures for electronic warfare
- Alternate compact versions
- Easy printing with PDF format
It exists in three variants:
- "Regular", with all information
- "Compact", without the drones block
- "Pure", without drones or countermeasures
You can download it from its official site: http://www.aeonoftime.com/EVE_Online_Tools/EVE-NPC-Damage-Types-Cheat-SheetThanks for reading! - Aeon.
Nice.
Any chance of including the other mission NPC type's such as the Empire Factions, Concord, etc?
Also this thread would get a much better reception in the sub-forum 'Missions & Complexes'.
DMC
Faction Standing Repair Plan | California Eve Players | (Proposal) Bring Back 'The Endless Battle' Missions |
Lothras Andastar
Associated North American Lovers of Dolphins
111
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Posted - 2014.09.26 23:54:00 -
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8 years and I always assumed Serps were weak to thermal. Go figure.
Question though, did you account for the fact that thermal drones do more damage, especially in the case of sansha and blood.
Because the Legacy Code has too much Psssssssssssssssh, nothing will ever get fixed until CCP stop wasting money on failed sparkle MMOs and instead rewrite the entire backend of EvE from scratch. |
AeonOfTime
Syrkos Technologies
Joint Venture Conglomerate
28
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Posted - 2014.09.27 07:38:00 -
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Ix Method wrote:Aren't you supposed to shoot Thermal at Mordus? Too lazy to test it but always thought that was the case.
I was a bit surprised as well, but kinetic is better only for a small margin (around 2% in my tests), so you can actually shoot either with the same success. As the distribution is not the same for all ship classes (cruiser / battleship), some will go down more easily either with kinetic or em, but the overall average is more in favor of kinetic.
Lothras Andastar wrote:Question though, did you account for the fact that thermal drones do more damage, especially in the case of sansha and blood.
With the drone revamp they did lately, gallente drones are not the "one drone to rule them all" kind of deal anymore, so I decided it would be better in the sheet to show the intended drones for the primary weakness. Of course gallente drones are still a good option, since many NPCs have their secondary weakness to thermal - it's up to you to decide if you want to be lazy or micromanage a bit more. Personally I found that carrying a wider selection of drones can be quite fun :)
DeMichael Crimson wrote:Any chance of including the other mission NPC type's such as the Empire Factions, Concord, etc?
The sheet is primarily targeted at mission runners, which is why I left those out. I would consider making a PvP sheet though, which lists the factions / entities you can come up against. My only problem for that would be that I don't PvP myself, so I am not familiar with the kind of information that would be useful in a cheat sheet. Maybe you could give me some pointers? |
Austrene Kanenald
Brave Newbies Inc.
Brave Collective
0
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Posted - 2014.09.27 10:22:00 -
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Nevermind, I thought it was damage types to deal, not to tank against. |
Sobaan Tali
Caldari Quick Reaction Force
369
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Posted - 2014.09.27 16:26:00 -
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Remiel Pollard wrote:Ralph King-Griffin wrote:AeonOfTime wrote:Ralph King-Griffin wrote:does this mean i can start giving out to people for having it in their bio? You lost me there. id say about half the people whos bio i have glanced at have the npc damage types there. If there's ever any confusion, the damage types in my bio are spot on.
Excellent, may I copy-paste that for future reference, pliss? |
ISquishWorms
250
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Posted - 2014.09.27 16:39:00 -
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Thanks for making this and sharing, will come in useful. 
GÇÿNo, this isn't it at all. Make it more... psssshhhhGÇÖ. |
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DeMichael Crimson
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
29610
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Posted - 2014.09.28 01:07:00 -
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AeonOfTime wrote:DeMichael Crimson wrote:Any chance of including the other mission NPC type's such as the Empire Factions, Concord, etc? The sheet is primarily targeted at mission runners, which is why I left those out. I would consider making a PvP sheet though, which lists the factions / entities you can come up against. My only problem for that would be that I don't PvP myself, so I am not familiar with the kind of information that would be useful in a cheat sheet. Maybe you could give me some pointers?
I wasn't referring to PvP.
I was referring to Anti-Empire encounter missions which have Empire Faction NPC's.
DMC
Faction Standing Repair Plan | California Eve Players | (Proposal) Bring Back 'The Endless Battle' Missions |
AeonOfTime
Syrkos Technologies
Joint Venture Conglomerate
31
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Posted - 2014.09.28 08:54:00 -
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DeMichael Crimson wrote:AeonOfTime wrote:DeMichael Crimson wrote:Any chance of including the other mission NPC type's such as the Empire Factions, Concord, etc? The sheet is primarily targeted at mission runners, which is why I left those out. I would consider making a PvP sheet though, which lists the factions / entities you can come up against. My only problem for that would be that I don't PvP myself, so I am not familiar with the kind of information that would be useful in a cheat sheet. Maybe you could give me some pointers? I wasn't referring to PvP. I was referring to Anti-Empire encounter missions which have Empire Faction NPC's.
Ah, true - I usually avoid those because of the standings hit. But you are right, they should be in there - especially since quite a number of COSMOS missions also have faction NPCs. I will have to rework the sheet a bit to make space for them, I will schedule that for the next version. |
DeMichael Crimson
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
29671
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Posted - 2014.09.28 21:31:00 -
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Good to hear that.
After you've completed it, might wanna consider posting it in the 'Missions & Complexes' sub-forum.
DMC
Faction Standing Repair Plan | California Eve Players | (Proposal) Bring Back 'The Endless Battle' Missions |
Oraac Ensor
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
557
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Posted - 2014.09.28 22:06:00 -
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Ralph King-Griffin wrote:id say about half the people whos bio i have glanced at have the npc damage types there.
 Weird man, just weird.
That's about the last place I'd ever think of looking. |
Lady Naween
Immortalis Inc.
Shadow Cartel
697
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Posted - 2014.09.28 23:37:00 -
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since this is a bit different then many other such charts I seen, what did you base it on? Not that I am doubting you one bit, i am just curious.
and is it possible to just get it in numbers? for instance you dont show the full gurista profile (for say adding to pyfa/'eft) |
AeonOfTime
Syrkos Technologies
Joint Venture Conglomerate
35
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Posted - 2014.09.29 07:37:00 -
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DeMichael Crimson wrote:After you've completed it, might wanna consider posting it in the 'Missions & Complexes' sub-forum
Thanks for the tip, I will :)
Lady Naween wrote:since this is a bit different then many other such charts I seen, what did you base it on? Not that I am doubting you one bit, i am just curious.
It took quite a bit of research - most of it is compiling the average damage by rat types using NPC databases like Elfarto's or Grismar's. I've been working on my own toolset to extract this information directly out of an EVE Database dump though, because it's a lot of work this way. It should be more precise then as well, not to mention a lot easier to update if CCP adjust the NPCs.
Lady Naween wrote:and is it possible to just get it in numbers? for instance you dont show the full gurista profile (for say adding to pyfa/'eft)
Hmmm, that's something I could add as a separate download / page. I will just have to check how pyfa stores this to provide the correct format. |
flaming phantom
T.R.I.A.D
Ushra'Khan
8
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Posted - 2014.09.29 12:04:00 -
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very nice. I would be interested in seeing a pvp one. You say you don't pvp, but I would be glad to work with you on that if you are interested. Just eve mail me and we can maybe start collaborating  |
AeonOfTime
syrkos technologies
Joint Venture Conglomerate
35
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Posted - 2014.09.29 14:27:00 -
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flaming phantom wrote:very nice. I would be interested in seeing a pvp one. You say you don't pvp, but I would be glad to work with you on that if you are interested. Just eve mail me and we can maybe start collaborating
Sure, why not - I sent you an evemail, let's see if we can put something together. |
Lady Naween
Immortalis Inc.
Shadow Cartel
697
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Posted - 2014.09.29 18:04:00 -
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AeonOfTime wrote:
Hmmm, that's something I could add as a separate download / page. I will just have to check how pyfa stores this to provide the correct format.
tbh just a list like:
the horrible killers faction: EM 50%, thermal 9%, kinetic 41%. explosive 0%
and people can add it themselves as both eft and pyfa have that option. and i for one find that easier anyway :)
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Yourmoney Mywallet
Jita Institute of Applied Monetary Manipulation
99
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Posted - 2014.09.29 19:57:00 -
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AeonOfTime wrote:flaming phantom wrote:very nice. I would be interested in seeing a pvp one. You say you don't pvp, but I would be glad to work with you on that if you are interested. Just eve mail me and we can maybe start collaborating Sure, why not - I sent you an evemail, let's see if we can put something together.
this collaboration should be fun to watch!  |
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