Science & Industry

Actual number of cost index is now shown to the player.
Blueprints in use can be filtered out through new setting in Industry window.
It is now possible to deliver multiple selected jobs at once.

New music for Oceanus

Oceanus will bring a new soundtrack for the character selection screen

The duration between activations of Light Missile Launchers has been increased by 6.66%

Oceanus is now being deployed to Tranquility! The server is expected to be up at 13:00 UTC.

The release brings a host of additions and fixes to the game including the launch of French localization; new cloaking effects; the beginnings of the module Tiericide; an overhauled opt-in notification system; new burner missions; easier importing and exporting of fittings; and many more.

Check out the release page for Oceanus here, and read the dev blog Coming in Oceanus by the Executive Producer for EVE Online, CCP Seagull.

Most of all remember to fly safe.

For general feedbeck regarding Oceanus, please use this thread. To report issues and problems you can use the Oceanus issues thread.

well, whiskey tango foxtrot.........i'm going to work and i still can't get on eve. nice going. perhaps you should give us all a plex for not having proper access?
Joe

Joe, I think there was a delay and it was "estimated" to be 2 hours, they brought a ETA on opening to 13:50 UTC as per here https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=5065734 and you can follow it on twitter here https://twitter.com/EVE_status

I for one, look forward to these updates, their names are more easier to follow, even if they are less Scifi and more logical (though i much prefer the older one for missiles, aka Arbalest, compared to ample haha)
Mo

My Dev alt detection sensies are tingling and my Dev Alt detection machine just exploded.

Joe, I think there was a delay and it was "estimated" to be 2 hours, they brought a ETA on opening to 13:50 UTC as per here https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=5065734 and you can follow it on twitter here https://twitter.com/EVE_status

I for one, look forward to these updates, their names are more easier to follow, even if they are less Scifi and more logical (though i much prefer the older one for missiles, aka Arbalest, compared to ample haha)
Mo

pos code borked? don't worry, add more duct tape...

Lol.. I heard somewhere the code was broken but if they tried to fix it, it would mess up all current POS's that are online? I had a issue where it wouldnt let me online, offline, anchor or unanchor anything, very frustrating but CCP fixed it relatively fast, was shocked at the response rate

Looks like another delay, running low on the aul patience.. its my last day off before a weeks worth of slaving -_-

To call Oceanus an "Expansion" is a downright insult to your paying customers. There's not one single thing in this "Expansion" that isn't a re-balancing, tweak, update, visual update, iteration, or improvement, of something that already exists in the game. When did endless patching become equivalent to an "Expansion". An "Expansion" implies that it adds something not previously found in the game. The last few "expansions" have been thin in new content, but this one takes the cake, in fact it takes the cake factory. It's like CPP have stopped even caring. And I'm at the point where I'm just about done caring too.

New Notification system added as opt-in beta feature. Note that this feature is not localized, and will be enabled a few days after the patch.

The Sin has lost its ultra cool ink black look

think of all those people out there going to be hot dropped and instead of a slick death dealing neo domi as the last thing they see, now its just some paisley green school kid snot colour

BOOH BOOOH UNCOOL MAN UNCOOOOOOL

I really dislike the new cloak effect. The hexagon thing doesn't scale when you zoom the camera and it streaks and blurs when you rotate. The transition effect is pretty cool, but juxtaposed with the hexagons just makes the invisible effect look even worse.

The new cloak makes ship activating it stay in overview for about 6 seconds (that is, in other peoples overview). Just checked it with 2 characters, one jumping through a gate in a prowler, pressing warp-cloak and alt-tabbing to the other character.

There are also reports that it's possible to lock the ship while the cloak animation is going on. The person who managed to do it apparently caught aggro, though I can not confirm this.

Is this intentional?

The Cloaking effect should have its own volume slider, detached from modules. That is all.

T1 Modules are still completely out classed by meta modules

Meta modules still can't be built by players.

New meta module naming system is immature and childish. It looses all of it's SciFi depth.

You're not listening to the playerbase.

it's all in this thread: Link

veterans, don't understand the meta levels system

Many players, including veterans, don't understand the meta levels system. I've seen tech3 ships with meta0 fits.

Completely disagree. Many players, including veterans, don't understand the meta levels system. I've seen tech3 ships with meta0 fits. This change is much better.

Many people fly officer-fit T1 battleships with 1 month old character.
Many people buy $500 gold MadCats.
Many people put fingers in a wall socket to see what happens.

Some people just lose at evolution. It does not mean that chopping off your limbs and tying you to a life support unit so you would not hurt yourself should be mandatory.

The issue is that the game doesn't explain it at all, nor it is an intuitive system.

Simplicity doesn't mean it lacks depth.

Complexity, in this case, made the game shallower and punished the ignorant.

There was no choice in meta levels, now there is (hopefully).

New meta module naming system is immature and childish. It looses all of it's SciFi depth.

You try to fit an arbalest and it fits. You try to fit X-whatever and it does not. You squeeze it in and see lower numbers. Can it be more intuitive?

It. Lacks. Depth. Why is it just so happens that all the merry factions of New Eden make absolutely similar co-processors? Why should not I have a choice to get a cheaper faction one if I don't need all that CPU. Why should I get a launcher that OMG has 6(?) more shots for the price of enough CPU to fit a covops cloak on a non-bonused ship?

Punishing the ignorant is it's own reward.

Ironically, there was much more meaningful choice in the LMLs. Because malkuth was objectively worse than arbalest where it mattered but with better fitting which was crucial for some fits (like a 75km talwar). With several more shots for a quarter more CPU the "choice" is a no-brainer.

The issue with meta levels is that there was no choice - you simply get whatever item with the highest meta level. It's a puzzle, not a choice.

Punishing the ignorant is the realm of pirates, not game development.

Favored by many for its average capacity and firing rate. Useful in both fast attack raids and longer battles.

The issue is that the game doesn't explain it at all, nor it is an intuitive system. Simplicity doesn't mean it lacks depth. Complexity, in this case, made the game shallower and punished the ignorant. There was no choice in meta levels, now there is (hopefully).

T1 Modules are still completely out classed by meta modules

New meta module naming system is immature and childish. It looses all of it's SciFi depth.

I think the most simple and senseful way to make them useful would be to give the basic and currently buildable meta 0 modules the role of the "Compact" modules, the modules that are easier to fit than all others of the same time at the cost of performance.
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.... Gay gay gay gay gay, also there is GAY and perhaps GAY.

The new thing is GAY, the other things you have changed is GAY...... so all in all ....... an interesting gay expansion.

I mean really, soon you are going to release a new font pack and you will claim it as an expansion.

You keep using that word, I do not think it means what you think it means.

"Gay" means "happy", so I'd say that Catt is happy with the Oceanus expansion.

Can i Unistall the last expansion to free up room on my computer?

Many people put fingers in a wall socket to see what happens.

.... Gay gay gay gay gay, also there is GAY and perhaps GAY.

The new thing is GAY, the other things you have changed is GAY...... so all in all ....... an interesting gay expansion.

I mean really, soon you are going to release a new font pack and you will claim it as an expansion.

There should be some concord boost as well to allow miners to be somewhat safer for mining against being attacked by CODE. they are exploiting the rules of engagement as well as several other rules they are breaking. I guess all I am saying make a mining barge with capital shields, armor, and hull to give miners a boost against gankers while concord demolishes them and we can just laugh, but there is no patch on pvp at all.

There should be some concord boost as well to allow miners to be somewhat safer for mining against being attacked by CODE. they are exploiting the rules of engagement as well as several other rules they are breaking. I guess all I am saying make a mining barge with capital shields, armor, and hull to give miners a boost against gankers while concord demolishes them and we can just laugh, but there is no patch on pvp at all.

The Skiff in particular has a 65% kill ratio in ALL secs in Eve, and is steadily climbing. It has succeeded in killing improperly fitted cruisers 1v1.

Fixed that for you.

Wow, new paint jobs on ishkur / ishtar / sin look like crap!!! Gimme back the Black that was so cool about them...

Things I'm not a fan of:
GÇó The cloaking effect when fully engaged. Granted, I'm running an older graphics card - but the cloak basically appears as a fixed grid of "u" shaped squares. It wouldn't be that bad if it actually rotated with the ship, but it appears as a flat texture that's just been applied to a 2D object as opposed to wrapped around a 3D object.

You guys must be running old outdated graphics cards, the new effects and paintjobs look great on my system.

No. Video card is less than a year old. It may look great to you, but it looks terrible to us.

Instead of doing more useful stuff you have given us:-

A french localized client when the frenchies speak better English that most of the English do.

A cloaking effect that is cosmetic and adds nothing useful.

A general dumbing down of the module naming.

The GÇ£named moduleGÇ¥ names that will be used in our Oceanus changes are:

Upgraded- Used for named modules where no specialization is possible
Compact- Used for named modules that specialize in reduced fitting cost
Enduring- Used for named modules that specialize in lower cap use or otherwise longer running time
Ample- Used for named modules that specialize in extra capacity
Scoped- Used for named modules that specialize in longer range
Restrained- Used for named modules that specialize in reduced drawbacks

you seem to want me to sit in a belt and mine to get minerals instead which actually involves far less warping, locking and pressing F1.

That said, we have taken the opportunity to retweak some of the red files that have gradually evolved over the years of manual faction and race adjustments. We finally tended to the Gallente CreoDron ships, for one. They are now back to the greenish look they used to have when New Eden was young.

Impossible to get a set of names that's going to appeal to everyone, or even make sense to everyone, but the alternative is even more bland. It makes more sense to say "Meta 4 TP" than an "Extron" anyway (less ambiguous).

If you are lucky enough to be comfortable with all the named modules in existence then congratulations! But hopefully you can see this is a net-win as losing them is a great help to new pilots who no longer have to look every module up and can instead focus on something fun.

tldr; is, as a move to improve client performance and pave the way for more customisation in the future there has been a reset on CreoDron ships, apparently by design. But if I am reading it right, it indicates that it still leaves to door open to change some back and still benefit from increased efficiency.

Cloak transition very cool, Cloak effect nope sorry try again. (I use Dx9 as I don't have an uber card, I suspect a lot of people are in this situation)

Wormhole mass effect is very annoying it makes it hard to see the destination constellation. FFS CCP did you try this before you released?

Vomit Green Ishtars...Really?

Over all fail, not as epic as the last one but still not good. You are aware of the competition out this year? Because currently I'm waiting for that launch then my subs will lapse.

Oh and the new module names...LMFAO, they are pathetic.

Arbalest sounds mean and well Arbalesty. Ample sounds like a joke from a carry on film. CCP you need to hire more competent people.

Completely disagree. Many players, including veterans, don't understand the meta levels system. I've seen tech3 ships with meta0 fits. This change is much better.

You guys must be running old outdated graphics cards, the new effects and paintjobs look great on my system.

No. Video card is less than a year old. It may look great to you, but it looks terrible to us.

Not a single CSM member or CCP member has replied to the almost exclusively negative feedback in this thread.

Makes me ask: "Are they even reading this?"

Not a single CSM member or CCP member has replied to the almost exclusively negative feedback in this thread.

Makes me ask: "Are they even reading this?"

Most sane people wouldn't want to suffer reading the endless whinings of this ungrateful, badly behaving bunch of moronic little brats.

EVE didn't need to be flashy. It was the complexity, the sci-fi theme, and the mostly player controlled economy that first attracted me to the game.

Not a single CSM member or CCP member has replied to the almost exclusively negative feedback in this thread.

Makes me ask: "Are they even reading this?"

This is a wormhole leading from a c4 to a c2:
http://imgur.com/o6LOxge

While I admit that the wormhole looks very nice, it doesn't really look like an actual hole leading to another place, but rather just an object floating in space. The center of the hole looks almost exactly like the background of my c4. It looks like if I enter the wormhole, I will just fly through it and still be in my current system.

Also, it is quite impossible to tell that it leads to a c2, which is the most essential information a wormhole should visually convey. I don't really know yet how these new sphere effects can tell me about the size of the hole, but that is secondary information anyway. The class of the system is far more important, and it needs to be visible at a glance to the trained eye. That is unfortunately no longer the case.

edit: For comparison, this is a c4 to c4 wormhole:
http://imgur.com/zMuAXX1

Even in direct comparison of the pictures, I find it impossible to really tell them apart. Judging a new wormhole in-game, without other wormholes to compare to at that moment... no way. This is a big step backward.

can not connect to game on port 26000 or 3724 - uninstalled and installed game 3 times....same results! HELP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


I HAVE BEEN A PAYING USER FOR OVER 7 YEARS!!!! SOMEONE FIX THIS NOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Running Windows 8 64 bit
- Windows Firewall: Port 26000 TCP (open for in/out)
- Routers Port 26000 open
- EVE Pref.ini file: Port 26000

As of 06:37 am (Central time) - I have the same problem!
I WANT CREDIT TO EVERY DAY I CANNOT CONNECT! (THIS PROBLEM IS YOURS...OWN IT)

Cannot connect to 97.237.39.200 on port 2600

As of 1 October 2014 06:37 am (Central time) - I have the same problem!

ping to 97.237.39.200 loss of all packets

DAMIT SCOTTY GET THOSE ENGINES STARTED, Your upgrade is a FAILURE in my CASE!

CAN I GET A LITTLE HELP HERE??????????????????????????????????

CCP are not sane people, they are a business. They should listen to their customers. I'm not seeing the 40 to 50k players on now that were on every weekend 5 years ago so maybe they should listen to the "brats".
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Most sane people wouldn't want to suffer reading the endless whinings of this ungrateful, badly behaving bunch of moronic little brats.

I LOVE the new meta module names, it makes things so much clearer. I'd like to see it apply to ships as well. The names are confusing. How about...
Caldari Missile Frigate I
Caldari Turret Frigate I
Caldari Repair Frigate I
Caldari Tackle Frigate I
Caldari Scanning Frigate I
Caldari E-War Frigate I
This would eliminate all the confusing names like Kestrel, Merlin, Bantam, Condor, Heron and Griffin. You could use the same format for all races, then pilots would know exactly which ship to purchase when they cross train to another race's ships. And by using the same convention with the T2 variants pilots would know exactly which ship to purchase when they get the skills. Since ships are role based anyway, I think this change based on the module changes implemented in Oceanus would really help new players be more effective in Eve.

Not a single CSM member or CCP member has replied to the almost exclusively negative feedback in this thread.

Makes me ask: "Are they even reading this?"

Hey guys. Thanks for the feedback so far.

We're doing some discussion internally about the concerns some people have expressed about the naming.
I will say that we absolutely reject any argument that attempts to claim that obscure name memorization should somehow be a requirement to play EVE. It's not "dumbing down the game" to make systems more easily understandable.
However some of the concerns about the lore and flavour have merit and we're talking about what we might change to better address those concerns. Nothing related to this will be changing for Oceanus, but everything can be iterated upon.

Also, if you've read the patch notes or dev blog today you'll have seen that we made an adjustment to the Restrained Cap Flux Coil stats. We had some wires crossed internally and thanks to your feedback we've cleared up the erroneous stats. The Restrained Cap Flux Coil will indeed have reduced drawback instead of increased drawback. It will have a capacitor pool penalty of -10% and a recharge speed bonus of 28%.

Thanks.

Hey guys. Thanks for the feedback so far.

We're doing some discussion internally about the concerns some people have expressed about the naming.
I will say that we absolutely reject any constructive feedback that attempts to claim that obscure name memorization should somehow be a requirement to play EVE. It's not "dumbing down the game" to make systems more easily understandable.
However some of the concerns about the lore and flavour have merit and we're talking about what we might change to better address those concerns. Nothing related to this will be changing for Oceanus, but everything can be iterated upon.

Also, if you've read the patch notes or dev blog today you'll have seen that we made an adjustment to the Restrained Cap Flux Coil stats. We had some wires crossed internally and thanks to your feedback we've cleared up the erroneous stats. The Restrained Cap Flux Coil will indeed have reduced drawback instead of increased drawback. It will have a capacitor pool penalty of -10% and a recharge speed bonus of 28%.

Thanks.

I haven't had a lot of time to try all the new features but the cloaking sound is way too loud. It gets a little ridiculous when you uncloak from a gate after jumping and cloak again right away.

Multiple invention runs

Last but not least, we recently changed Invention to only consume one run of a Tech I blueprint copy instead of eating the whole stack. The next logical course of action is to allow players to start invention with multiple runs (that each consume one run of the input blueprint copy) so they donGÇÖt have to launch them manually every hour, which is what weGÇÖre going to do with this set of changes.

I like the new cloaking transition as well now that I got used to it. The transition looks cool and I am not that disturbed by that '2D' effect others are complaining about, I like to see where my ship is even when cloaked.

I also had one station with maxed out inventory, the new changes reduced the clutter a bit and have now more room... as now different modules are made the same one. And as for the names, I don't care how it's called, I care about what they do.

As for future expansions, It's a taboo to talk about it perhaps... but CCP was on the right track with the plan of adding walkable stations and who knows even have holodecks where you could do battle simulations and maybe entrable agent offices with a 3D agent character you could interact with.. yada yada. I so wish they would pick up those plans again. It definitely would make it more atractive for a wider audence without changing the core of EVE. Expansions with name changes and a little shiny here and there is not the future of EVE nor CCP.

As for EVE and CCP's future, they already have been set on stone and then they may work out or don't.

That may be, but current situation is that they do offers for free 30 day trails and even free offers with addons as an attempt to get new players in EVE, but the majority are not staying in EVE and don't come back after the trail ended. The free trails with extra's are even spammed on websites, because there are some many free keys given out by CCP and almost nobody wants them. I even tried to get my friends into EVE, but after the trail they are off to play other games. So more immersion and 3D environments with walkable stations and 3D interaction with other players and NPC agents etc would have made things more interesting and anno 1014... instead of text based agents with static missions based on 1995. But thats just my 2 cents and last I will speak about this taboo.

Ample should never be used to describe anything other than boobs, ever.

Oceanus has been successfully deployed to Tranquility!

The release brings a host of additions and fixes to the game including the launch of French localization; new cloaking effects; the beginnings of the module Tiericide; an overhauled opt-in notification system; new burner missions; easier importing and exporting of fittings; and many more.

Check out the release page for Oceanus here, and read the dev blog Coming in Oceanus by the Executive Producer for EVE Online, CCP Seagull.

Most of all remember to fly safe.

For general feedbeck regarding Oceanus, please use this thread. To report issues and problems you can use the Oceanus issues thread.