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baltec1
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Posted - 2014.10.01 21:16:00 -
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They say in space nobody can hear you scream, however the sound we all just heard from PL as they were bent over and royally screwed was deafening. Join Bat Country today and defend the Glorious Socialist Dictatorship |

baltec1
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Posted - 2014.10.01 21:25:00 -
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Lyn Fel wrote:baltec1 wrote:They say in space nobody can hear you scream, however the sound we all just heard from PL as they were bent over and royally screwed was deafening. Actually, that was me.
You have my sympathy. Hopefully JF will get bonuses that will cancel out these changes. Join Bat Country today and defend the Glorious Socialist Dictatorship |

baltec1
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Posted - 2014.10.01 21:34:00 -
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ArmyOfMe wrote:Alp Khan wrote:
"Implemented a plan to change EVE Online from a MMO game to a full-time job for players, crashed subscriptions numbers which resulted in EVE Online getting shut down."
So far the only thing that has crashed sub numbers in this game is caused by a giant blue donut..... But yeah, i guess goons feel the need to blame ccp for that one as well. Not a single **** was given to the ammount of goon tears in here.
Just to point out, this change just gave us a huge advantage. Join Bat Country today and defend the Glorious Socialist Dictatorship |

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Posted - 2014.10.01 21:37:00 -
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Reppyk wrote:baltec1 wrote:Just to point out, this change just gave us a huge advantage. ... In tear production ?
We don't need jump drives to deploy our 1000 megathrons on your head. Join Bat Country today and defend the Glorious Socialist Dictatorship |

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Posted - 2014.10.01 21:40:00 -
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flakeys wrote:baltec1 wrote:
Just to point out, this change just gave us a huge advantage.
But then this is only the START of the changes .... be carefull what you wish for 
We didn't wish for a power projection nerf as it won't do much to stop us. Now and RR nerf is something that can change things. Join Bat Country today and defend the Glorious Socialist Dictatorship |

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Posted - 2014.10.01 21:42:00 -
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Veers Belvar wrote:baltec1 wrote:Reppyk wrote:baltec1 wrote:Just to point out, this change just gave us a huge advantage. ... In tear production ? We don't need jump drives to deploy our 1000 megathrons on your head. Ya, but good luck projecting force in the distant regions of your sov to protect your renters without being able to use capitals.
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Posted - 2014.10.01 21:44:00 -
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Reppyk wrote:baltec1 wrote:We don't need jump drives to deploy our 1000 megathrons on your head. According to all the angry goonies in this thread, that's a bit less than 1000 now... Oh, and enjoy the 70 jumps trip in an armor BS. 
Who said its going to be 70 jumps?
Man, you lot are in for a shock when this hits and we still set you on fire. I'll keep my told you so warm for you. Join Bat Country today and defend the Glorious Socialist Dictatorship |

baltec1
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Posted - 2014.10.01 21:47:00 -
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Veers Belvar wrote:
More than enough time for all the ratting carriers to be reduced to rubble, and the MOA folks to be long gone. 20 minute trip by megathrons >> 1 minute deployment by cyno.
So who exactly is going to pay rental fees to you if you are going to be completely unable to protect them?
Implying that we protect dumb renters ratting in carriers now. Join Bat Country today and defend the Glorious Socialist Dictatorship |

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Posted - 2014.10.01 21:49:00 -
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ArmyOfMe wrote:baltec1 wrote:ArmyOfMe wrote:Alp Khan wrote:
"Implemented a plan to change EVE Online from a MMO game to a full-time job for players, crashed subscriptions numbers which resulted in EVE Online getting shut down."
So far the only thing that has crashed sub numbers in this game is caused by a giant blue donut..... But yeah, i guess goons feel the need to blame ccp for that one as well. Not a single **** was given to the ammount of goon tears in here. Just to point out, this change just gave us a huge advantage. Not sure if you'r actually beliving what Mittens have been telling you guys, or if you, unlike the rest of the guys in your alliance just has way less understanding of how things work, but it seems a lot of eve is willing to prove you wrong.
We dont depend upon our super fleet. From the moment this hits our massive subcap numbers and deployment of our sigs across our empire will show. Join Bat Country today and defend the Glorious Socialist Dictatorship |

baltec1
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Posted - 2014.10.01 21:58:00 -
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Veers Belvar wrote:
Ok fine....if they are willing to pay you just for the right to farm, with no involved force projection or protection, then you can carry on. But I think part of the expectation of renters is that the sov holder takes action to make the rented area safe, including hotdropping when necessary. The goons definitely made defense fleets to hunt down MOA. These changes make it a lot more painful to move around, and will at the very least force the renters to more actively protect themselves, putting downward pressure on the rental fees, and somewhat financially harming the large nullblocks.
We use fast cruiser gangs, if someone tries to take sov we deploy the main fleets. This isn't going to be hard to adapt to. Join Bat Country today and defend the Glorious Socialist Dictatorship |

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Posted - 2014.10.01 22:02:00 -
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Lucrii Dei wrote:Quote: By extension, because my costs just went up and ships are so much more expensive now compared to pre-nerf, and because there isn't a proportionate increase in the ISK per hour generation in 0.0, the people in my alliance have to spend more time ratting or mining so that they can afford to buy ships.
I fail to see the problem with this. Stop milking renter cows and undock and actually do something to earn what you fly.
That wont help reduce the problems that JF will now have. Big powerblocks can soak up the costs, its the smaller powers that this is meant to be helping that will suffer. JF do need to be looked at before this thing goes live. Join Bat Country today and defend the Glorious Socialist Dictatorship |

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Posted - 2014.10.01 22:04:00 -
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Medalyn Isis wrote: Why are some of your members whinging and rage quitting on this thread then if it doesn't affect you. I agree, goonswarm will still be able to easily protect its empire with subcapitals, but your line soldiers all seem to be throwing toys out the pram and quitting, in which case you wont have pilots to fly said sub capitals.
Because thanks to the way supers work they are now trapped in a ship already rarely used going nowhere fast. Join Bat Country today and defend the Glorious Socialist Dictatorship |

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Posted - 2014.10.01 22:05:00 -
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Veers Belvar wrote:
Look, if you can effectively do that more power to you. It definitely should create a lot more content in those systems, and if the MOA and their ilk do it right they will actually have more firepower in the fights than the Goons do.
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Posted - 2014.10.02 06:46:00 -
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Brutus Crendraven wrote:Null Tears pour forth.
Let me grab a bucket to catch these null tears in the name of our lord BOB!
Just one final change needed the removal of local and everything will be as BOB intended.
Question.
How do you supply a small alliance on the outer edge of null with these changes to JF? Join Bat Country today and defend the Glorious Socialist Dictatorship |

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Posted - 2014.10.02 06:47:00 -
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Deych wrote:
And if there other attackers? You can't be at any place in eve in 2 hours like now. And thats awesome!
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Posted - 2014.10.02 06:51:00 -
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Aiyshimin wrote:baltec1 wrote:Brutus Crendraven wrote:Null Tears pour forth.
Let me grab a bucket to catch these null tears in the name of our lord BOB!
Just one final change needed the removal of local and everything will be as BOB intended. Question. How do you supply a small alliance on the outer edge of null with these changes to JF? Supply with what?
Everything from ammo and minerals to battleships. They aren't going to do very well if you starve them of supplies. Join Bat Country today and defend the Glorious Socialist Dictatorship |

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Posted - 2014.10.02 06:53:00 -
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Torgeir Hekard wrote:baltec1 wrote: How do you supply a small alliance on the outer edge of null with these changes to JF?
You blue whatever block that holds the slice of null going to empire.
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Posted - 2014.10.02 06:56:00 -
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Torgeir Hekard wrote:Prince Kobol wrote: So a even bigger blue doughnut that we have now.. great
Wasnt that the purpose of the change?
I thought it was put in so the grr goon mob can celebrate for a while then kick up a stink when they realise we adapted to the change before it even hit tranq. Join Bat Country today and defend the Glorious Socialist Dictatorship |

baltec1
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Posted - 2014.10.02 06:59:00 -
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Deych wrote:
Just do that every day. To the multiple attack points. Your ally members will be happy. And enemy caps will be there - they do not need to jump across the universe.
We have for years. You honestly think we of all people cannot keep ourselves entertained while we travel given our record for spending 10+ hours torching towers in bombers and hellcamping stations for week at a time? Join Bat Country today and defend the Glorious Socialist Dictatorship |

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Posted - 2014.10.02 07:14:00 -
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Deych wrote:baltec1 wrote:Deych wrote:
Just do that every day. To the multiple attack points. Your ally members will be happy. And enemy caps will be there - they do not need to jump across the universe.
We have for years. You honestly think we of all people cannot keep ourselves entertained while we travel given our record for spending 10+ hours torching towers in bombers and hellcamping stations for week at a time? So there is no reason to cancel subsribes then? :)
Only if you own a super. Those things rarely get used as it is so they are even bigger space coffins than today. Frankly if they can use gates they should be getting the ability to dock somewhere so they can at least play the game. Join Bat Country today and defend the Glorious Socialist Dictatorship |

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Posted - 2014.10.02 07:18:00 -
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Kinizsi wrote:I love the idea CCP
We'll see how it would end up.
Null tears a logistics freakouts... there was life in 0.0 before jump bridges and jump freighters and titan bridges. I remember the freighter convoy fleets...... and it was fun. We'll adapt as we did so many times before. It would be harder, but it would me much much more fun than it is today.
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Posted - 2014.10.02 07:21:00 -
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Caius Sivaris wrote:
No place in eve is more than 6 or 7 jumps from Empire. If you're too dumb to probe a chain, you don't deserve nullspace.
Its not us that will have issues with this its the smaller alliances/corps that we are wanting to come out to null when CCP gets around to removing all of our dead systems. The outer sections of null space will wind up abandoned. Join Bat Country today and defend the Glorious Socialist Dictatorship |

baltec1
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Posted - 2014.10.02 07:29:00 -
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Selexid wrote:
Maybe built and *GASP* mine LOCALLY!
Not even we have enough members to mine the minerals needed locally and you cant get things like faction ammo and the large amounts of named mods out here.
Then we have the fact that near all of high secs T2 mats are imported from null. Join Bat Country today and defend the Glorious Socialist Dictatorship |

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Posted - 2014.10.02 07:30:00 -
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Marc Durant wrote:
Why not, because it won't be able to keep the status quo? That's the point!
Btw, I love how all the 0.0 sock puppet alts are whining like mad atm, this thread is a day old and close to 140 pages. It's hilarious.
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Posted - 2014.10.02 07:36:00 -
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Schmata Bastanold wrote:This thread makes one thing very clear: there's no change that wouldn't make baltec1 go "meh, we already adapted to it" :)
We probably cant adapt to occupational sov that they will be adding Join Bat Country today and defend the Glorious Socialist Dictatorship |

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Posted - 2014.10.02 07:38:00 -
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Selexid wrote:Nazri al Mahdi wrote:Selexid wrote: Maybe built and *GASP* mine LOCALLY!
This is like the ignorance version of whack-a-mole. Nullsec is all but missing a couple minerals found in pretty much everything you would ever want to build. Importing is the only option. You see, in EVE, resources are distributed regionally. This requires trade. Trade which is becoming impossible. See I know this is BS I lived in Tenal and all the asteroids where there. Also, you can *gasp* scan a wh for the rest or even for better empire access. Also Freighters and JF are NOT the only transport option. It will make it harder for the blob to supply 1000 megathrons. Will be easier for the little guy.
How is this easier for the little guy? They don't have the manpower to adapt to this change and thus won't be able to replace losses quickly enough. Join Bat Country today and defend the Glorious Socialist Dictatorship |

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Posted - 2014.10.02 07:42:00 -
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[quote=Selexid]
Escorted Convoys
Feel free to try this, I look forwards to your ALOD. Join Bat Country today and defend the Glorious Socialist Dictatorship |

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Posted - 2014.10.02 07:51:00 -
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Selexid wrote:baltec1 wrote:[quote=Selexid]
Escorted Convoys
Feel free to try this, I look forwards to your ALOD. Obviously there will be losses, but isn't that the point? Why 2-3 dedicated guys should be able to haul ships for 1000 players so they can drop a random ratter in Provi? If you want to be big, be big, but WORK more for it.
We arn't the ones that this will be impacting badly, its the people who do not have our numbers that live in the further parts of null that will suffer. Join Bat Country today and defend the Glorious Socialist Dictatorship |

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Posted - 2014.10.02 07:55:00 -
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Rek Seven wrote:Schmata Bastanold wrote:This thread makes one thing very clear: there's no change that wouldn't make baltec1 go "meh, we already adapted to it" :) He's the original EVE hipster: "I started feeling fatigue before CCP implemented it" I've never known anyone who talks so much but says so little. 
Given that our current defensive setup has sigs located across our space in a way that means they can respond quickly to any attack on our sov and dont need to rely upon capitals or jump bridges I would say yea, we are going to be just fine. Join Bat Country today and defend the Glorious Socialist Dictatorship |

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Posted - 2014.10.02 07:57:00 -
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marVLs wrote:baltec1 wrote:
Escorted Convoys
Feel free to try this, I look forwards to your ALOD.
Same here with Your pvp marauders 
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Posted - 2014.10.02 08:00:00 -
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Selexid wrote:
The cap blobbers will suffer moslty from this, then the POTENTIAL wannabe nullseccer that wants to settle CE and might want to blue some ppl to get there and then the Logi directors who will have to hire 5 more dedicated guys.
Also a war can be won not only by throwing endless ships @ the enemy.
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Posted - 2014.10.02 08:02:00 -
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Marc Durant wrote:
It is, because they face the same problem. Not difficult to understand?
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Posted - 2014.10.02 08:06:00 -
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Deych wrote:baltec1 wrote:Marc Durant wrote:
It is, because they face the same problem. Not difficult to understand?
Whats hard with setting up a gate camp? Whats harder - to scout a gatecamp or to scout a hotdrop?
You do know that we can still hotdrop right? Even better, I can squeeze a suicide moros through gates now so you cant even get intel from the in game map on capital movements
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Posted - 2014.10.02 08:08:00 -
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Mark Hadden wrote:baltec1 wrote:I thought it was put in so the grr goon mob can celebrate for a while then kick up a stink when they realise we adapted to the change before it even hit tranq. why are you cryig a river then? Let me guess, you're just worrying about other, non-goon players, right?
You use these words but you don't know what they mean. Nerfing JF logistics hurts the smaller guys more than the big ones as we have both the manpower and the isk to absorb the problems. Join Bat Country today and defend the Glorious Socialist Dictatorship |

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Posted - 2014.10.02 08:11:00 -
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Manfred Sideous wrote:
We are? News to me.
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Posted - 2014.10.02 08:12:00 -
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PotatoOverdose wrote: Everything hurts the smaller guys more than the big ones as you have both the manpower and the isk to absorb any problems better than they do.
So how is this nerf to logistics a good thing then?
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Posted - 2014.10.02 15:15:00 -
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MeBiatch wrote:CCP Greyscale wrote:Rommiee wrote:Will cyno jammers stop caps jumping in through your gate? Nope, that's what bubbles are for. You said that there are changes to interdiction bubbles. .. does this mean they will now restrict outgoing stargate jumps?
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Posted - 2014.10.02 15:35:00 -
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Vulfen wrote:baltec1 wrote:MeBiatch wrote:CCP Greyscale wrote:Rommiee wrote:Will cyno jammers stop caps jumping in through your gate? Nope, that's what bubbles are for. You said that there are changes to interdiction bubbles. .. does this mean they will now restrict outgoing stargate jumps? I'm going with bigger bubbles for regional gates. Im going for low sec bubbles
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Posted - 2014.10.02 16:07:00 -
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CCP Greyscale wrote:
IDK, warp speed rigged cruisers? Gimmick fits tend to be awful in the real world, I'm sure someone will find a counter.
Rigged cruisers? No. Buuut while we are talking about it...
[Moros, Moros fit]
Damage Control II Capital Inefficient Armor Repair Unit Federation Navy Magnetic Field Stabilizer Federation Navy Magnetic Field Stabilizer Federation Navy Magnetic Field Stabilizer True Sansha Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane True Sansha Energized Explosive Membrane
Federation Navy Stasis Webifier Federation Navy Stasis Webifier Domination Warp Disruptor Federation Navy Tracking Computer, Tracking Speed Script Federation Navy Tracking Computer, Tracking Speed Script
Limited Mega Ion Siege Blaster I, Dread Guristas Antimatter Charge XL Limited Mega Ion Siege Blaster I, Dread Guristas Antimatter Charge XL Limited Mega Ion Siege Blaster I, Dread Guristas Antimatter Charge XL Siege Module II
Capital Hyperspatial Velocity Optimizer II Capital Hybrid Metastasis Adjuster II Capital Hybrid Metastasis Adjuster II
Not entirely sure if this will work but my dream of roaming dreads just took a big step forwards. Anyway, 1.7 mil EHP, 3au warp speed, a metric fuckton of firepower, half a minute to align (two nano take that down to 22 sec). Frankly if I can get this things align time down to around a battleships I may use it in baltec fleet in an ultimate show of stubbornness. I shall call it monkfish.
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Posted - 2014.10.02 16:12:00 -
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Querns wrote:baltec1 wrote:CCP Greyscale wrote:
IDK, warp speed rigged cruisers? Gimmick fits tend to be awful in the real world, I'm sure someone will find a counter.
Rigged cruisers? No. Buuut while we are talking about it... [Moros, Moros fit] Damage Control II Capital Inefficient Armor Repair Unit Federation Navy Magnetic Field Stabilizer Federation Navy Magnetic Field Stabilizer Federation Navy Magnetic Field Stabilizer True Sansha Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane True Sansha Energized Explosive Membrane Federation Navy Stasis Webifier Federation Navy Stasis Webifier Domination Warp Disruptor Federation Navy Tracking Computer, Tracking Speed Script Federation Navy Tracking Computer, Tracking Speed Script Limited Mega Ion Siege Blaster I, Dread Guristas Antimatter Charge XL Limited Mega Ion Siege Blaster I, Dread Guristas Antimatter Charge XL Limited Mega Ion Siege Blaster I, Dread Guristas Antimatter Charge XL Siege Module II Capital Hyperspatial Velocity Optimizer II Capital Hybrid Metastasis Adjuster II Capital Hybrid Metastasis Adjuster II Not entirely sure if this will work but my dream of roaming dreads just took a big step forwards. Anyway, 1.7 mil EHP, 3au warp speed, a metric fuckton of firepower, half a minute to align (two nano take that down to 22 sec). Frankly if I can get this things align time down to around a battleships I may use it in baltec fleet in an ultimate show of stubbornness. I shall call it monkfish. CCP Grayscale what have you done? Just trade out one of the mids for a 100mn MWD. Heat that and you align in 10s.
Ah well there it is. Guess I do have a reason to train caps after all! Join Bat Country today and defend the Glorious Socialist Dictatorship |

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Posted - 2014.10.02 16:22:00 -
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Arrendis wrote:luredivino wrote:So basically what you are saying is that if you have an emergency, you now are guarenteed to lose a multibillion isk ship. My fire alarm is going off, but I have to sit at my computer for 3 hours and wait this absurd timer off or lose something that took me 40 hours to get the isk for. Cant log off because combat timer. Well, might as well let my building burn down. Might I suggest that if you're worrying about your imaginary space pixels while the building is burning down, you have reached a level of obsession with the game that is about to become directly unhealthy and are probably better off not returning?
Gotta agree with this, the ship is only worth a few billion in not real money. Join Bat Country today and defend the Glorious Socialist Dictatorship |

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Posted - 2014.10.02 16:24:00 -
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Komi Toran wrote: Now throw some Hyperspatial Accelerators in the lows and bring a couple carriers with you to refit to tank on the fly. Really, this isn't going to work out how CCP thinks it is.
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Posted - 2014.10.02 16:42:00 -
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Isha Subula wrote:
and having industrialists in null is a bad thing? Being able to move large quantities of ships, mods whatever from high to null is a part of the problem. Now null pvp'ers will have to stop treating miners like crap and actually accept that they need them to survive.
Problem here is that there are things that null cannot get locally and stuff that high sec cannot get locally. Trade still needs to happen, neither can be totally self sufficient. Join Bat Country today and defend the Glorious Socialist Dictatorship |

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Posted - 2014.10.02 16:48:00 -
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Ninteen Seventy-Nine wrote:baltec1 wrote:
Problem here is that there are things that null cannot get locally and stuff that high sec cannot get locally. Trade still needs to happen, neither can be totally self sufficient.
I'm sure no solutions will be found and the game will die then. Oh no wait... this game has survived (and thrived) without these mechanics the way they were, and it will post-changes as well.
Sure it will continue, but it will mean that t2 prices will rise sharply and the outer reaches of null will be all but abandoned. Join Bat Country today and defend the Glorious Socialist Dictatorship |

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Posted - 2014.10.02 16:52:00 -
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Ninteen Seventy-Nine wrote:baltec1 wrote: the outer reaches of null will be all but abandoned. Suppose that's a step up from the current all reaches of null being all but deserted. 
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Posted - 2014.10.02 16:58:00 -
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Ninteen Seventy-Nine wrote:
Maybe in your eyes.
But then again, you're wrong about basically everything, always.
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Posted - 2014.10.02 17:01:00 -
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Mr Floydy wrote:More I think about this change the more I like it. Going to really turn things on it's head and make Nullsec interesting :)
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Posted - 2014.10.02 17:02:00 -
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Kagura Nikon wrote:
Look on the bright side.. they FINNALY managed to make the nidhuggur the best carrier!!!
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Posted - 2014.10.02 17:09:00 -
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Volmyr wrote:Jenn aSide wrote:X Gallentius wrote:Why pilot specific (multiple pilots can move one dread across the universe pony express style), instead of hull specific (removes ability to move dread across universe)?
Because hulls can be repackaged. unless say there was a mechanic that wont let you re-package unless your jump drive is cooled off...
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Posted - 2014.10.02 17:23:00 -
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CCP Greyscale wrote:Planned new feature to address new player movement:
For players less than thirty days old, once per player corporation joined, and For all players, once a year
You may push a button in your corp interface (while a member of a player corp and docked) that: - Moves your medical clone to a station designated by your corporation, and - Automatically moves you to your medical clone
Exact method of corporations designating target station still being ironed out, but it will involve at the very least being able to designate a default station for all corp members, and will likely be allowed for *any* station with a corp office, regardless of system sec status.
This seems to us like it solves the "I want to recruit people to nullsec" concern, and also gives non-nullsec recruiters an easier way to get genuinely new players to the right location easily.
Thoughts? Pasting this into the FAQ and also trying to get it into the blog proper.
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Amyclas Amatin wrote:
and logged out alts sitting in those supercaps... u think we dock supers in those xlsma things?
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Posted - 2014.10.02 17:52:00 -
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Imolus wrote:CCP Greyscale wrote:Planned new feature to address new player movement: Thoughts? Pasting this into the FAQ and also trying to get it into the blog proper. Genuinely new players should not be going straight into nullsec unless they are well informed and had done a decent amount of research on the game. More often than not, those players will be lost in a complex sea of game mechanics. Teleporting them all the way down to null sec without easy way back will only add to the confusion. And worst of all, you'll be taking away a joy of their first trip through a dangerous space. I personally strongly disagree with this proposal.
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Rowells wrote:When are these changes hitting sisi?
November sometime. Possibly just enough time for me to train into a dread. Join Bat Country today and defend the Glorious Socialist Dictatorship |

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Posted - 2014.10.02 18:54:00 -
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Rowells wrote:baltec1 wrote:Rowells wrote:When are these changes hitting sisi? November sometime. Possibly just enough time for me to train into a dread. I thought november wa when they hit TQ? or is it going to be pretty close to release?
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Posted - 2014.10.02 18:57:00 -
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Jean Luc Lemmont wrote:baltec1 wrote:Rowells wrote:When are these changes hitting sisi? November sometime. Possibly just enough time for me to train into a dread. It'll be super weird thinking about you not being in a megathron Baltec
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Bailian Moxtain wrote:Put ratting back into belts instead of stupid anamolies u gotta scan for, and see roamimg once again rise from the shadows
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Posted - 2014.10.02 19:27:00 -
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Posted - 2014.10.02 19:28:00 -
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LUMINOUS SPIRIT wrote:Borachon wrote:I've thought about these changes a good bit, and like many in my alliance am both excited and concerned about these changes. A few questions, Greyscale:
- What exactly do you see the point/goal being of jump drives in EVE compared to gates and jump bridges? Simply speeding up short-range travel for large ships, while still keeping it time consuming for them to move long distances?
- What is the rationale behind the 5LY cap? We have a lot of experience with the 5LY cap - BlackOps ships were buffed from 5LY to their current range of 7.85LY at max skills because, even with gates, 5LY was just too short for a ship expected to jump much given basic eve geography. Perhaps this slightly longer range would be a better max, particularly for non-combat capitals?
Jump drives are now ambush drives. You stage a few systems out, and when the time comes, you drop the hammer. You dont do it often, and much thought goes into deciding to use them. Staging itself is now done way in advance by slowboating. Seems reasonable.
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Frostys Virpio wrote:Kagura Nikon wrote:Grookshank wrote: The xyz part. I am not able to determine if taking a JB now is a good choice or not. I will have to factor in: * the fatigue x timer equation (with all its: "but if this is true there is a minimun. etc.") * when will the next fleet I want to join be? * will my fleet require me to take a JB back? * when will I play next (i.e. how much is the fatigue reduced while I am offline) * what will I want to do, when I log in again? etc.
It never will be unless your path is someway blocked. or your fatigue is at ZERO. Or it's a defensive OP so you won't have to jump further so being on CD is irrelevant as the fatigue will decay while the OP is going on.
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Posted - 2014.10.03 06:07:00 -
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Kassasis Dakkstromri wrote:
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Posted - 2014.10.03 06:23:00 -
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Kassasis Dakkstromri wrote:baltec1 wrote:Kassasis Dakkstromri wrote: If you have a moros I would like to take it off your hands. Nah man - just fail Phoenix that I picked up ages ago for structure shoots - was skillin' for all dreads tbh... now like what's the point? Cant even get dev post responses on anything except stuff from fanboi's. Unsubb is the only metric CCP actually cares about in the end... pretty sad imo.
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Posted - 2014.10.03 07:03:00 -
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Kaitlynne Grayson wrote:So let's change things up a bit. Belts deplete, asteroids get mined out. So why not do the same with resource moons?
Why? The generate around the same as a single ice miner per month. Join Bat Country today and defend the Glorious Socialist Dictatorship |

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Posted - 2014.10.03 07:09:00 -
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Eric Prinz wrote:I love this Dev Blog. I hope you will not allow JF to jump (in the future) more than 5 a.u. It gives meaning to develop local production in null-sec (instead of delivery of the entire market from Jita)
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Posted - 2014.10.03 08:12:00 -
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Eric Prinz wrote:Duffyman wrote:If null sec doesn't export moon goo to Jita (and uses it all for local production), there will be no T2 mods for High Sec. Low sec space have ~30-50% of global moon materials in eve. So it's no difference for hi-sec t2 production.
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Posted - 2014.10.03 08:16:00 -
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Ninteen Seventy-Nine wrote:baltec1 wrote:Eric Prinz wrote:Duffyman wrote:If null sec doesn't export moon goo to Jita (and uses it all for local production), there will be no T2 mods for High Sec. Low sec space have ~30-50% of global moon materials in eve. So it's no difference for hi-sec t2 production. Best case is a 50% drop in supply and you think that wont change prices? It's a good thing supply isn't alone in his equation. New meta modules are coming out.
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Posted - 2014.10.03 08:18:00 -
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gascanu wrote:it's funny how ccp try to nerf big coalitions but do nothing about their HUGE income; as long as they keep they trillions/month income there is no way they will just decide to break their agreements. way to miss your mark, ccp greyscale, but yea, i'm not even surprised ; i wasn't you the one that put this terrible sov system in place ? all that topics about sov, hundreds of pages, and all you colud came up with is nerf jfs;
p.s. one piece of advice: FOLLOW THE ******* MONEY!
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Posted - 2014.10.03 08:22:00 -
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Ninteen Seventy-Nine wrote:baltec1 wrote: That changes the situation with t2 ships how?
t2 ships are already ridiculously astronomical and the movement volumes in highsec are very low It's silly to think we should balance projection around a niche issue like that that can be addressed on it's own terms.
You can nerf the combat ships without torching the JF. Simple fact here is prices will go up and the smaller powers that need the help in null will wind us not being able to keep themselves supplied if you nerf the JF like this. We will survive but this is what is going to happen. Join Bat Country today and defend the Glorious Socialist Dictatorship |

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Posted - 2014.10.03 08:24:00 -
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Ninteen Seventy-Nine wrote:baltec1 wrote: So nerf high sec?
OH BURN  Let me tell you about all my R64s and renters I'm making passive bank on in highsec.
Moons supply less isk than an ice miner per month.
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Posted - 2014.10.03 08:37:00 -
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Ninteen Seventy-Nine wrote:baltec1 wrote: Moons supply less isk than an ice miner per month.
Renters make us a lot of isk but we make massive amounts in high sec.
loool, i love this one keep telling us how moons supply less isk than an ice miner per month. ...a miner that mines non-stop, 24/7 with absolutely miniscule interaction by a player required to continue doing so and then multiply that by...well, i'm sure you can tell us how many of these completely useless moons you have That's why no one even pays attention to those towers. The reason you make isk in high sec isn't because there isn't isk to make in null. Or because highsec is patently better. It's because the isk your alliance makes is appropriated and not directed into your member's wallets. Your talking points are as tired as they are slanted.
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Posted - 2014.10.03 08:54:00 -
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Ninteen Seventy-Nine wrote:baltec1 wrote: Go look at the income you get from a tower before saying these things, it will stop you from looking stupid.
No, please. After you, I insist. Enlighten us. Show me the errors of my ways. Tell us how much one makes in a month and how utterly miniscule that amount is when stacked alongside moons ALL ACROSS THE GODAM GAME I'm sure it's insignificant.
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Posted - 2014.10.03 09:09:00 -
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Ninteen Seventy-Nine wrote:
Don't be coy. You're terrible at it.
Your entire insinuation is that moons don't matter much. It's a bald faced lie hidden behind a ridiculous talking point.
As if a passive tower somehow correlated to a player in a ship in space actively executing a function to begin with.
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Posted - 2014.10.03 09:33:00 -
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PotatoOverdose wrote:Ah...that explains it. I was wondering why Baltec & friends where so adamantly opposed to these changes, even while other notable goons (e.g. Endie's post on reddit) seemed in favor. While it is true that the CFC holds hundreds upon hundreds of money moons, the truth is that those make up a rather small portion of their overall pos holdings. Moon goo is not what it once was. The number of regular pos's in CFC space, operated by CFC dudes almost certainly numbers in the thousands. Think of it, thousands upon thousands of towers crying "feed me! feed me!" And the only way to get fuel to those towers is by 5 light year JF. With fatigue. Oh, it will be positively glorious.It is true that these changes will hurt the little guy, but here's something that defies malcanis' law. You see, pos ownership does not increase linearly with entity size. It is not proportionate. It is not linear. No my friends, some of the bigger entities have far more than their equal share of towers.  JF's allow a small cadre to manage a disproportionately large number of towers. A nerf to JF's is a dagger aimed straight at the heart of CFC logistics.
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Posted - 2014.10.03 09:39:00 -
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Gregor Parud wrote:So why are you still whining in this thread then, surely it's not because of the "little guy".
Its whining when you are giving feedback in a feedback thread.
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Posted - 2014.10.03 09:40:00 -
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PotatoOverdose wrote:Lord TGR wrote:PotatoOverdose wrote:Ah...that explains it. I was wondering why Baltec & friends where so adamantly opposed to these changes, even while other notable goons (e.g. Endie's post on reddit) seemed in favor. While it is true that the CFC holds hundreds upon hundreds of money moons, the truth is that those make up a rather small portion of their overall pos holdings. Moon goo is not what it once was. The number of pos's in CFC space, operated by CFC dudes almost certainly numbers in the thousands. Think of it, thousands upon thousands of towers crying "feed me! feed me!" And the only way to get fuel to those towers is by 5 light year JF. With fatigue. Oh, it will be positively glorious.It is true that these changes will hurt the little guy, but here's something that defies malcanis' law. You see, pos ownership does not increase linearly with entity size. It is not proportionate. It is not linear. No my friends, some of the bigger entities have far more than their equal share of towers.  JF's allow a small cadre to manage a disproportionately large number of towers. A nerf to JF's is a dagger aimed straight at the heart of CFC logistics.
If you actually think this is going to affect us more than the smaller guys, then I have a bridge to sell you. I don't know whether it will affect you more, per se.What I do know is how many towers the little guys have. And I have a reasonable guess as to the amount of towers you have. I also have a passing knowledge of eve geography. I can put 5 LY +multiplicative fatigue cooldown + thousands of towers together. Spanning many regions, no less. Will it affect you more? Who's to say? "Affect" is a difficult think to quantify, it doesn't come with SI units.
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Posted - 2014.10.03 09:43:00 -
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PotatoOverdose wrote:And where do those blockade runners get all their fuel? It's 65 light years from your southern holdings in delve to deklein.
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Posted - 2014.10.03 09:47:00 -
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Grave Digger Eriker wrote:So you produce all your fuel blocks locally then!!!
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Posted - 2014.10.03 09:48:00 -
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PotatoOverdose wrote:baltec1 wrote:PotatoOverdose wrote:And where do those blockade runners get all their fuel? It's 65 light years from your southern holdings in delve to deklein. You do know how fast those things warp right? Yeah, I do. So If you're saying you haul fuel blocks for all of your towers from deklein or Jita, I'm calling bullshit on that. Incidentally, 54 light years from your southern holdings to Jita.
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Anthar Thebess wrote:I love those changes , as they will stop eve being isk/h but effort/outcome.
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Posted - 2014.10.03 13:44:00 -
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CCP Greyscale wrote:
Yes, the geography is going to make a lot of difference. Yes, getting the upper hand over the enemy fleet is going to be hard. These are both things that we see as broadly positive.
What about the issues around the outer edges of EVE? Smaller entities are going to struggle with the JF changes but out there the space is likely to be all but verboten to them thanks to the likes of us who they have to get through.
Also as a sidenote on titans/supers, are there any plans to have them able to dock somewhere so the pilot can get out? Right now they are not exactly heavily used on a day to day basis which will only get worse with these changes. Join Bat Country today and defend the Glorious Socialist Dictatorship |

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Edwin Wyatt wrote:Alp Khan wrote:[quote=Jeyz Vega]
This is why people are saying "Congratulations CCP, you just made Goons win EVE."
Don't forget that an entity like GSF has massive numbers that we can now concentrate in good regions we would like to hold. Lets see goons hold the line when all of new eden is knocking on their door , unable to run for supplies and the 5ly jump drives don't have the range to escape. You can isolate yourself from the rest of the universe or now the UNIVERSE can isolate you! Welcome to the NEW Eden :)
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Kassasis Dakkstromri wrote:You know if you turn the number 300 vertically it kinda does look like a ASCII version of poopsocking.... which you fanboi's should be expecting do a lot of if your still planning on flying Capitals! 300 YOu see it too right? 
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Posted - 2014.10.03 20:39:00 -
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Kassasis Dakkstromri wrote:baltec1 wrote:Kassasis Dakkstromri wrote:You know if you turn the number 300 vertically it kinda does look like a ASCII version of poopsocking.... which you fanboi's should be expecting do a lot of if your still planning on flying Capitals! 300 YOu see it too right?  Funny thing here is that I am now training for a dread because of the changes. That's something I never expected to do.. Enjoy that training grind for Jump Cal V so you can get your way awesome 5 LY jump range m8 
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Posted - 2014.10.03 20:45:00 -
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Kassasis Dakkstromri wrote:
Drunk?
For an entire month? Possible.
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Kassasis Dakkstromri wrote:baltec1 wrote:Kassasis Dakkstromri wrote:
Drunk?
For an entire month? Possible. It must have been some sort of outlandish plan involving megathrons I had. There's a juicy story there - plz do share!
I have been pressing CCP for years to get me a Megathron with a capital jump drive strapped to it so I could take a megathron on capital fleets. Now that the Moros can jump via gates its only logical that I adapt it for use in baltec fleet and possibly for cruiser gangs. Join Bat Country today and defend the Glorious Socialist Dictatorship |

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Kassasis Dakkstromri wrote:
Wait wait.... so you actually were pressing CCP to add JD to Mega's, and actively training JCal V while asking? Actually expecting a possible yes??
I have pulled off more unlikely things in the past
It did kinda pay off so I guess I can call this a victory in my obesssion in getting oversized ships to do strange and seemingly impossible things. Join Bat Country today and defend the Glorious Socialist Dictatorship |

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Posted - 2014.10.03 21:10:00 -
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Ninteen Seventy-Nine wrote:baltec1 wrote:Kassasis Dakkstromri wrote:
Wait wait.... so you actually were pressing CCP to add JD to Mega's, and actively training JCal V while asking? Actually expecting a possible yes??
I have pulled off more unlikely things in the past  It did kinda pay off so I guess I can call this a victory in my obsession (stubbornness) in getting oversized ships to do strange and seemingly impossible things. And there it is. The backpeddling. Even more delicious than tears.
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Gospadin wrote: Don't let the door hit you in the Rhea on the way out.
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Posted - 2014.10.03 21:23:00 -
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Kassasis Dakkstromri wrote:Gospadin wrote:Kassasis Dakkstromri wrote:We agree thing need fixing - but this is tooooooo much
I've lived through, in a different game, the fundamentally changing a game while it's LIVE.... you might be getting more than you want in the end? That's some serious hyperbole. The SWG equivalent would be if CCP removed all blueprints/industry and gave everyone any item they wanted for 100 isk like on SiSi. How many 11 year old games other than EVE have survived without making major changes along the way? Does Walking In Stations count?
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Posted - 2014.10.03 21:36:00 -
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Kalissis wrote:
I will say this once to you: your blue donut is losing the argument, your self created boredom is coming to an end, go sit in TIDI while you can and please stop shitposting in here.
CCP is making the right decision, saving the game.
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Mr Epeen wrote:LOL! I'd be impressed if you managed to type that with a straight face. Mr Epeen 
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Posted - 2014.10.03 21:46:00 -
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smokeydapot wrote:baltec1 wrote:Kalissis wrote:
I will say this once to you: your blue donut is losing the argument, your self created boredom is coming to an end, go sit in TIDI while you can and please stop shitposting in here.
CCP is making the right decision, saving the game.
Not sure if you have noticed but near all null alliance leadership have shrugged their shoulders and told CCP to carry on. Trench warfare. You delusional people really think this changes things for you. We ( the null bears ) even have time to get contingency plans in place not to mention stage assets strategically.
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Mr Floydy wrote:Commanda Marr wrote:you simply cant get there anymore. Erm, you definitely can still get there. If people can populate C5/C6 wormhole space easy enough, you can cope with living in deep null. You get the luxury of permanent gates and the option of jumping around. Woop-de-doo you can't jump direct from HS to your deadend nullsec. HTFU.
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