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eLLioTT wave
Art of War
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Posted - 2006.08.10 02:58:00 -
[31]
 Originally by: Benglada
Originally by: Samirol
we all know how to fix this, move all level 4 agents to low sec. Give some risk to the huge rewards.
agreed
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L3's arent valuable enough in loot anymore to make people run them full time in high sec, L4 is where its at and there's 0 risk in high sec. Hence everyone can fit the biggest faction ships with all the faction gear (totaling over 10 billion for a mission running setup in cases ive seen) with absolutely 0 risk.
A lot of people do missions in low sec and i wouldn't mind seeing something drastic change in eve.
Consider this... a central system to all of eve (not jita) suddenly has a whole bunch of L4 agents move there, the rewards are x10!!! HUGE isk to be made and all the fancy faction offers. Agents from all factions so everyone can do missions.
All the remaining agents are moved out of the way and to low sec in the border regions to 0.0 - dangerous places.
Now this utopia of mission running lasts all of about a day in central empire and then a STORYLINE EVENT occurse. Sanshas (or whoever else you want) INVADE! in such force the concord and all the navys are overwhelmed, it is an all out attack and they claim the system for themselves, turning into 0.0.
So now we have a 0.0 system in the middle of empire, with the most lucrative offers making the risk very much worthwhile.... you want to see action? THIS would be action (yes they might need to build another server to add to the cluster which is only for this system :P but it'd be so much fun. Also just to bolster this, make it a huge npc market which encourages a player market - lastly (for some balance) allow POS and bubbles to be put up, but if they are, the Sansha fleet (which will be even bigger than BoB) will attack them pretty much straight away. So you wouldnt want to put your POS up cos just after you finish it would be destroyed, you also won't see bubble camps cos theyd get creamed also.
Yes its a little wacky - but if the lag could be controlled it would be the place to go for action!
READ ON
on a more serious note: having some systems in empire be taken over and made into low sec could only be a good thing for eve
(back to a not so serious note)
- i would like to see all the routes between the 4 races turned into low sec so there are no ABSOLUTE safe paths of travel between them. If you want to stay completely safe, you have to stay in your region (amarr, caldari, gallente, minmatarr)
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Infinity Ziona
Space Elves of Ragnoroth
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Posted - 2006.08.10 03:14:00 -
[32]
To the dumb people that think forcing people like me, who dont want to group play, into low sec so your dumb gangs can gank me, is going to work are plainly wrong.
I have no intention of fighting anyone on terms that are suicidal. At the moment if I go to low sec / 0.0 to fight there is a very high probablity that I will run into a gang and:
1. Will get jammed, scrambled, killed.
2. Will get Jammed, Scrambled, Killed.
3. WILL GET JAMMED, SCRAMBLED, KILLED.
Whatever flavour you like, CCP has made the game into a gang vs gang, EW pwns everything gankfest.
Im not interested. I will stay in empire and have empire wars where I have a better chance of not getting Jammed, Scrambled and Killed.
Cus It Sucks. And I dont pay money to CCP to not have fun. Which is what you are trying to force me to do with your whining sniveling whaaaing whines about L4's and high sec.
'The alliance should not be a solo contentmobile' - Albert Einstein |
Montero
Black Omega Security
E.R.A
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Posted - 2006.08.10 03:25:00 -
[33]
Originally by: Infinity Ziona
To the dumb people that think forcing people like me, who dont want to group play, into low sec so your dumb gangs can gank me, is going to work are plainly wrong.
I have no intention of fighting anyone on terms that are suicidal. At the moment if I go to low sec / 0.0 to fight there is a very high probablity that I will run into a gang and:
1. Will get jammed, scrambled, killed.
2. Will get Jammed, Scrambled, Killed.
3. WILL GET JAMMED, SCRAMBLED, KILLED.
Whatever flavour you like, CCP has made the game into a gang vs gang, EW pwns everything gankfest.
Im not interested. I will stay in empire and have empire wars where I have a better chance of not getting Jammed, Scrambled and Killed.
Cus It Sucks. And I dont pay money to CCP to not have fun. Which is what you are trying to force me to do with your whining sniveling whaaaing whines about L4's and high sec.
Bring some friends and learn the basics of how to survive.
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Infinity Ziona
Space Elves of Ragnoroth
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Posted - 2006.08.10 03:40:00 -
[34]
Originally by: Montero
Originally by: Infinity Ziona
To the dumb people that think forcing people like me, Who Dont Want To Group, into low sec so your dumb gangs can gank me, is going to work are plainly wrong.
I have no intention of fighting anyone on terms that are suicidal. At the moment if I go to low sec / 0.0 to fight there is a very high probablity that I will run into a gang and:
1. Will get jammed, scrambled, killed.
2. Will get Jammed, Scrambled, Killed.
3. WILL GET JAMMED, SCRAMBLED, KILLED.
Whatever flavour you like, CCP has made the game into a gang vs gang, EW pwns everything gankfest.
Im not interested. I will stay in empire and have empire wars where I have a better chance of not getting Jammed, Scrambled and Killed.
Cus It Sucks. And I dont pay money to CCP to not have fun. Which is what you are trying to force me to do with your whining sniveling whaaaing whines about L4's and high sec.
Bring some friends and learn the basics of how to survive.
Bolded and Capitalized for clarity.
'The alliance should not be a solo contentmobile' - Albert Einstein |
Kenz Rider
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Posted - 2006.08.10 06:22:00 -
[35]
stfu with the missions in hi-sec bs. go hijack some1 elses thread.
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Jason Marshall
Hammer Of Light
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Posted - 2006.08.10 06:47:00 -
[36]
Originally by: Infinity Ziona
To the dumb people that think forcing people like me, who dont want to group play, into low sec so your dumb gangs can gank me, is going to work are plainly wrong.
I have no intention of fighting anyone on terms that are suicidal. At the moment if I go to low sec / 0.0 to fight there is a very high probablity that I will run into a gang and:
1. Will get jammed, scrambled, killed.
2. Will get Jammed, Scrambled, Killed.
3. WILL GET JAMMED, SCRAMBLED, KILLED.
Whatever flavour you like, CCP has made the game into a gang vs gang, EW pwns everything gankfest.
Im not interested. I will stay in empire and have empire wars where I have a better chance of not getting Jammed, Scrambled and Killed.
Cus It Sucks. And I dont pay money to CCP to not have fun. Which is what you are trying to force me to do with your whining sniveling whaaaing whines about L4's and high sec.
Ms.Anti social.......
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Infinity Ziona
Space Elves of Ragnoroth
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Posted - 2006.08.10 07:06:00 -
[37]
Originally by: Jason Marshall
Originally by: Infinity Ziona
To the dumb people that think forcing people like me, who dont want to group play, into low sec so your dumb gangs can gank me, is going to work are plainly wrong.
I have no intention of fighting anyone on terms that are suicidal. At the moment if I go to low sec / 0.0 to fight there is a very high probablity that I will run into a gang and:
1. Will get jammed, scrambled, killed.
2. Will get Jammed, Scrambled, Killed.
3. WILL GET JAMMED, SCRAMBLED, KILLED.
Whatever flavour you like, CCP has made the game into a gang vs gang, EW pwns everything gankfest.
Im not interested. I will stay in empire and have empire wars where I have a better chance of not getting Jammed, Scrambled and Killed.
Cus It Sucks. And I dont pay money to CCP to not have fun. Which is what you are trying to force me to do with your whining sniveling whaaaing whines about L4's and high sec.
Ms.Anti social.......
If I wanted to be social I would play The Sims line of games.
'The alliance should not be a solo contentmobile' - Albert Einstein |
Xeaon
Minmatar
A.W.M
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Posted - 2006.08.10 07:36:00 -
[38]
Why play MMOs if you don't want to be social? Just go watch tv or something.
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Originally by: Righteous Fury
Eve is not about the old preying on the new, its about the smart preying on the utterly incompetent.
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Infinity Ziona
Space Elves of Ragnoroth
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Posted - 2006.08.10 07:58:00 -
[39]
Edited by: Infinity Ziona on 10/08/2006 07:59:10
Originally by: Xeaon
Why play MMOs if you don't want to be social? Just go watch tv or something.
Lets dispell a myth then.
MMOG = Massively Multiplayer Online Game = Lots of people playing
Not
MMOSG = Massively Multiplayer Online Social Game = Lots of people playing together
EVE is an MMO. Not the latter. If I pay my money each month then I will play the game that way I LIKE. If you want to pay for my subscription then I might reconsider the issue.
I really dont understand why people like some of these posters in this thread CARE so much how I Play the game. Really you should Care less.
Why the **** should I go and watch TV when I have more fun playing EvE? Because you think your method of play is more fun or relevant them my own because you misconstrue the meaning of the word MMOG?.
I think your the definition of a real carebear. More interested in changing the way other people play to suit your own needs then worrying about your own playstyle.
'The alliance should not be a solo contentmobile' - Albert Einstein |
Hllaxiu
Shiva
Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2006.08.10 08:14:00 -
[40]
Jita would still be Jita without the missions.
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elrikyo
Puppets on Steroids
Veritas Immortalis
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Posted - 2006.08.10 08:16:00 -
[41]
Think someone needs a chill pill....
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Lord WarATron
Amarr
Out Siders
Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2006.08.10 08:20:00 -
[42]
Originally by: Miss Cyno
Originally by: Samirol
we all know how to fix this, move all level 4 agents to low sec. Give some risk to the huge rewards.
I'm all for risk for reward, but this wont happen until the risk of grief sniping and gate ganking is far greater. I wont risk my ship to gankers, until CCP modifies something to give them risk. Kill rights was a start, but they need give the ability to warp to your killer anytime... anywhere.
The real issue is that 0.0 and low sec lvl4's got nerfed along with high sec ones. If someone restores the bounties of 0.0/lowsec lvl4's to the same as pre-cold war, then you will get a massive influx of high sec people entering low sec/0.0 space. - It actually gives a reward worth the risk.
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Crumplecorn
Gallente
Aerial Boundaries Inc.
Interstellar Starbase Syndicate
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Posted - 2006.08.10 08:32:00 -
[43]
Level 4 grinding seems to be a too easy way of making ISK, and boring compared to the more player-interactive opportunities Eve gives you. But I don't run missions at all, I'm too busy with that player-interactive stuff, so I have no direct experience of them.
WRT/moving them to lowsec, I do have experience flying in lowsec and in 0.0 (mostly haulers in 0.0), and the reports of people getting 'Jammed, Scrammed and Killed' are greatly exaggerated.
I think it is yet another win for the dynamics of the game that a trade hub can be established and trundle unstoppably along like this. It may not be the optimal result (lag etc.), but it's impressive that it happened at all, no? Player driven market FTW etc. Must visit it some time.....
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Fracking Beach
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Posted - 2006.08.10 08:50:00 -
[44]
Originally by: Crumplecorn
Level 4 grinding seems to be a too easy way of making ISK, and boring compared to the more player-interactive opportunities Eve gives you. But I don't run missions at all, I'm too busy with that player-interactive stuff, so I have no direct experience of them.
If you don't even do the missions, how can you say it's too easy?
0.0 has enough lucrative content in the form of double-triple million ISK BS spawns, hi end ore and plexes. Lots more ISK in those than empire agents. No need to try to take fun out from empire mission runners by advocating more nerfs to the allready nerfed empire agents.
In most cases, those people who currently run lvl3/4 agents in empire have fun what they are doing and don't care about 0.0. They certainly would not risk their expensive equipment to the wtfpwnd by pies in 0.0 if their agents were moved there. You can't force anyone to 0.0. It's really that simple.
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Infinity Ziona
Space Elves of Ragnoroth
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Posted - 2006.08.10 09:12:00 -
[45]
Originally by: elrikyo
Think someone needs a chill pill....
Nah Im sick of listening to the poverty stricken low sec people whining about how much high sec should be nerfed and how everyone should go live in low sec cause its so fabulous.
It plainly sucks as you can tell from the lack of population there.
'The alliance should not be a solo contentmobile' - Albert Einstein |
Arcticblue2
Gallente
Nordic Freelancers inc
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Posted - 2006.08.10 09:25:00 -
[46]
Well I think it is nice to have some hub systems where you can trade better... makes it more easy for a producer to get their minerals among other things.
When I sell items from missionrunning I do not go to hub systems because quite honestly.. it is not giving me good enough prices on them.
They sell better closer to low sec systems, like next door.
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Sergeant Spot
Black Eclipse Corp
Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.08.10 09:38:00 -
[47]
Quote:
Jita...
You will never find a more wretched hive of scammers and suicide gankers....
Jita is fine as it is. Its the main market. Deal with it.
As for the Level 4 mission runners, I still cannot comprehend the whines against them. IGNORE THEM.
There are so many people that play this game and cannot seem to accept the fact that others play it differently.
As for Risk vs Reward, there is no such thing. never was, never will be.
The three aspected "Risk, Work and Reward" is real.
On a final note, anything that forces players to risk low sec PvP to do ANY high reward work is wrong. "Some" high reward stuff should be strictly low sec, but no "all" of it.
*snip*
This type of comment has no place in a signature, please remain courteous - Pirlouit
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Crumplecorn
Gallente
Aerial Boundaries Inc.
Interstellar Starbase Syndicate
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Posted - 2006.08.10 10:04:00 -
[48]
Originally by: Fracking Beach
Originally by: Crumplecorn
Level 4 grinding seems to be a too easy way of making ISK, and boring compared to the more player-interactive opportunities Eve gives you. But I don't run missions at all, I'm too busy with that player-interactive stuff, so I have no direct experience of them.
If you don't even do the missions, how can you say it's too easy?
Watching people in chat channels saying "let's all go do missions". Most things in Eve require some thought and work and planning or some combination of the above, not to mention care and attention. Missions seem to be 'Hey we're all here in ships lets go make huge amounts of ISK FTW'. Or just someone in a solo NPCing pwnmobile mentioning the riches they are raking in with very little risk. Just seems the risk/reward is broken on them.
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Uther Doull
Shinra
Lotka Volterra
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Posted - 2006.08.10 10:36:00 -
[49]
ppl are herd animals, if you have a placxe with lost of ppl, more ppl will move there...
it happens in real life all the time, it's what make a metropolis a metropolis
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Miss Overlord
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Posted - 2006.08.10 12:02:00 -
[50]
want to move playes away from jita
Its going to taek the player base to begin to supply markets elsewhere - more research and production slots spread away from jita.
ICe belts being moved was a good start - perhaps adding some new calderi NPC corps with associated agents (perhaps non core navy ones) like natura etc calderi steel and moving some of the level 3 and 4 agents away from calderi space into amarr gallente and minmatar (storyline could be claderi corps begin to move into other empires in competition with those NPC corps in those regions)
Maybe even move non calderi agents into calderi space
The main point tho is calderi have way less systems packed with stations (amarr are spread out calderi arent so u get em bunched up in that space)
A quick hint to pirates high sec PVPers and looters get into jita train up astrometrics 4 and go and disturb players on their missions take in some ships for looting wait for em to engage and fry em.
Disturb their missions by scanning for their ships and warping in on em mid mission (will be doing this myself in coming days) the loot value should outweight the cost of scan probes take in some cheap rookie ships to loot.
That might make em move very quickly
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Andrue
Amarr
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Posted - 2006.08.10 12:17:00 -
[51]
Originally by: Infinity Ziona
Originally by: Samirol
we all know how to fix this, move all level 4 agents to low sec. Give some risk to the huge rewards.
There were no level 4 agents when Yulai was swarming with people. The problem is its a convenient location. A dynamic congestion tax would be a better option. Go to a smaller market area, pay less tax.
I've always liked the idea of taxes on gates and once proposed something like that. Characters less than a month old could travel tax free but everyone else had to pay based on the amount of traffic currently present within the destination system.
I think at the time I suggested allowing players to buy a pass (ie;a season ticket) and/or get offered passes by agents. Seemed to me it could be another item to buy off market.
Sadly it was probably a bit too complicated but despite being a regular traveller myself (I quite enjoy it) I think some kind of restriction for busy systems should exist.
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Powder Monkey
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Posted - 2006.08.10 13:28:00 -
[52]
Oh boo ******* hoo, lvl4s in lowsec 'oh no i won't undock in my bloody navy raven nemore'.  Learn to survive, maggot. 
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Raider Zero
Minmatar
Federation
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Posted - 2006.08.10 14:20:00 -
[53]
Originally by: Samirol
we all know how to fix this, move all level 4 agents to low sec. Give some risk to the huge rewards.
No offense, Samirol, but you need targets. (Awesome link in your sig btw)
People need to be real about the "huge rewards" of L4's. They can be a good living, but even the best mission runners are quickly dwarfed by a good 0.0 mining op. I don't hear a single call for "nerf 0.0 mining."
Running L4's is a decent Eve living, but it's not all the free isk for no reward that somepeople pitch it as.
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Ogad
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Posted - 2006.08.10 14:52:00 -
[54]
please, can you explain why having a market hub is a bad thing?
Anyway, you can have "regional hubs" but only with "global market"
This way will make it easy for anyone to place their stuff locally and you can browse for it from anywhere. then fly there or make a courier mission.
If the "global market" is unacceptable you will get Jita - "central hub" to deal with "regionalised markets"
This is because you can't fly in every single region just _to see_ if what you want to buy is there. So everyone will go to sell and buy in just one place. Jita.
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Epsilon 1
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Posted - 2006.08.11 01:14:00 -
[55]
Originally by: Ogad
please, can you explain why having a market hub is a bad thing?
Anyway, you can have "regional hubs" but only with "global market"
This way will make it easy for anyone to place their stuff locally and you can browse for it from anywhere. then fly there or make a courier mission.
If the "global market" is unacceptable you will get Jita - "central hub" to deal with "regionalised markets"
This is because you can't fly in every single region just _to see_ if what you want to buy is there. So everyone will go to sell and buy in just one place. Jita.
RIP Yulai, jita on the other hand is a ****hole
Originally by: Steven Gerrard
Why do those minmatarians throw their ships together from toilet paper and junk?
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Infinity II
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Posted - 2006.08.11 01:22:00 -
[56]
Originally by: Powder Monkey
Oh boo ******* hoo, lvl4s in lowsec 'oh no i won't undock in my bloody navy raven nemore'. Learn to survive, maggot.
We're not the ones crying about L4 mission runners tard.
Some people may think calling this little dolt a tard is rude but after last night when I tried to give him some help which he asked for:
Powder Monkey > any1 use a typhoon for missions?
Infinity Ziona > god no, most people want to finish them
Infinity Ziona > :)
Powder Monkey > huh?
Infinity Ziona > seriously though I doubt it
Powder Monkey > 4x cruise launchers with rof bonus + 4x autocannons with dmg mod bonus
Powder Monkey > more dps than a raven
Infinity Ziona > yeah but theres that annoying range issue
Powder Monkey > so?
Powder Monkey > fit arties instead of autocannons
Powder Monkey > and with cruise you have almost the same range as the raven
Powder Monkey > 50km will be enough
Infinity Ziona > no i mean staying in optimal vs all the different ships and their different orbit ranges
Powder Monkey > hello?
Infinity Ziona > you could try it but with a mega it was crappy
Powder Monkey > 4x cruise launchers with rof
Powder Monkey > hello?
XXXXX > o.O
Monkey > same as the raven
Powder Monkey > without the vel bonus
Powder Monkey > and minus 2 launchers O.o
Infinity Ziona > well you obviously have it all figured out, why did you ask?
Powder Monkey > could you please stfu, kind sir.
Infinity Ziona > Sure
Powder Monkey > ok
Infinity Ziona > what a ****er :)
Powder Monkey > **** off you git
Powder Monkey > either stay on topic or go away
XXXXXX > Rawr!
Powder Monkey > blasted carebears with selfmade bounties rofl
Infinity Ziona > go fly your ****y typhoon and get blown up
Powder Monkey > any1 did lvl4s in a typhoon ?
Infinity Ziona > :)
Powder Monkey > space elves of*****cunsumption
Powder Monkey > for the bloody win
Infinity Ziona > so charming
Powder Monkey > indeed you are carebear
Powder Monkey > now go **** off to your high-sec lvl4 missions
Infinity Ziona > oh noes imma carebear
Powder Monkey > and stop trolling
Infinity Ziona > my feelings are hurties
XXXXX > This is the lvl4 channel
Infinity Ziona > :)
XXXXX > And i'm hungry
XXXXX > The first slice of bread (the one under the crust in a ready sliced loaf) is always dry and horrible
Powder Monkey > throw it the fuk away !
I think youll also agree he really is a tard.
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Jex Jast
Perfect Order
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Posted - 2006.08.11 13:36:00 -
[57]
First of all, the post is about how JIta formed, but that was established with the first response which I found to be a very effective explanation.
Now about the L4 mission running.
It is ridiculous that someone can earn so much money without risk. We don't say "nerf 0.0 mining ops" because there is risk in those, big risk, and thus there is reward. Unless you consider Level 4 Mission NPC's to be equally as dangerous as human pirates/gankers, the missions really do need to be moved.
The issue that mission runners have with it is the fact that they are afraid of low sec, even with their T2 Fitted faction ships. I fly T1 frigates around low sec rather often, and amazingly enough, I don't get killed all the time.
However, considering the fact that L4 missions were nerfed before (not sure what type of nerfing occured exactly), if they are to be moved to lowsec, they should get a bit of a boost. Because while it's stupid to have no risk and a sizeable reward in high sec, it'd be equally so to have real risk and the same reward, so jack up the prizes a little.
It all stems from people being pussies about low sec. It's really not that bad and for Pete's sake if you want to play a single-player game go play Diablo 2 or something. Eve is a multiplayer game, which by definition means you are supposed to be playing with or against other people, not hiding in randomly generated safespots owning the same old mission drones again and again. Missions are a good addition to the game, but I think you need some kind of interaction with people in order to give Eve it's due respect.
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Ghoest
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Posted - 2006.08.11 15:31:00 -
[58]
The people complaining about lvl 4 mission runners are stupid - really.
The empire mission *****s pump isk into the economy abut they add very few items. They add plain implants and faction ships - thats it.
Low sec people add the good items - pirate faction gear.
The result is the mission *****s buy the good stuff off the low sec people. Do you really think you could get 200 mill for a Gisti booster if there wasnt all those mission ***** with nothing else to buy?
The mission ***** money flows 2 places.
1 T2 producers(T2 BPOs is a completely seperate issue.)
2 Low sec ratters selling pirate faction and named gear.
Wherever you went - here you are.
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Epislona
Minmatar
Babylon Scientific and Industrial Enterprises
Babylon Project
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Posted - 2006.08.11 16:17:00 -
[59]
Edited by: Epislona on 11/08/2006 16:17:46
Originally by: Crumplecorn
Originally by: Fracking Beach
Originally by: Crumplecorn
Level 4 grinding seems to be a too easy way of making ISK, and boring compared to the more player-interactive opportunities Eve gives you. But I don't run missions at all, I'm too busy with that player-interactive stuff, so I have no direct experience of them.
If you don't even do the missions, how can you say it's too easy?
Watching people in chat channels saying "let's all go do missions". Most things in Eve require some thought and work and planning or some combination of the above, not to mention care and attention. Missions seem to be 'Hey we're all here in ships lets go make huge amounts of ISK FTW'. Or just someone in a solo NPCing pwnmobile mentioning the riches they are raking in with very little risk. Just seems the risk/reward is broken on them.
do you have any idea how little isk group mission running makes... when you take 5 people into a level 4 it becomes less profitable than level 3's...
as for the "NPCing pwnmobile" i paid a lot of isk and spent a lot of time grinding level 3's putting mine together and training to use it properly... i feel that at this point i deserve the 300 mill or more per week i can make off of soloing level 4's because i made an INVESTMENT. I saved my isk for a long time, and bought the fanciest faction/deadspace gear that i could find, and i put it on a ship equally as expensive. you cant tell me there is no risk/reward... remember if i lose the ship due to lag issues reimbursements don't cover modules... my faction gear is gone. that's risk enough for me.
now to get back on topic... Jita is and always will be a market hub no matter what... it is centrally located inside forge region, and within 3 jumps of Jita you can be in Sinq, the citadel or lonetrek. Sinq and Lonetrek both have quite active markets so trading between regions is very easy if you are starting in jita. Furthermore... i don't actually think that it is the level 4 agents that make a system a Hub... i think it is more based on the location of the "good" level 1 and 2 agents... the ones people are forced to use for a while because they don't have the skills for level 3's or the standing. It is in this time that you end up with a hanger full of "crap" that you keep around "just in case" you might use it later.
I know that even after they moved the level 3/4 agents out of rens (that i didn't actually use while they were in rens) I still went back to rens to buy ships because my hangar was full of modules and things that i could expirament with fittings on my new ships.
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DubanFP
Caldari
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Posted - 2006.08.11 17:47:00 -
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Personnally I think there's just something about Jita that makes it special. With Caldari as the most heavily populated race it was only inevitable for it to be in Caldari space. Jita is between Kisogo which is the caldari's "military" starting acadamy, and Sobeski "where the beginner mission storyline takes you". It has plenty of stations and agents of all Levels "or is at least 1 or two jumps from agents of all levels". It makes it the greatest choice for the mother of all trade hubs. I mean Jita is the obvious choice. It didn't HAVE to be jita, but chances are it would be, though a different trade hub was a distinct posibility.
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