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Seleene Body Count Inc. Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2006.08.11 07:34:00 - [91] Originally by: Ethidium Bromide so i hope that KIA will accept our roleplaying and calling them ape men and heathens and see that it is not smack but just our way to deal with things. Or piglets!! - Latest MC Movie - Nation Building
Ethidium Bromide ZEALOT WARRIORS AGAINST TERRORISTS Curatores Veritatis Alliance	Posted - 2006.08.11 07:54:00 - [92] Originally by: Seleene Originally by: Ethidium Bromide so i hope that KIA will accept our roleplaying and calling them ape men and heathens and see that it is not smack but just our way to deal with things. Or piglets!! _________________________________ just because you are not paranoid doesn't mean i'm not following!
Tatsue Nuko Tabula Rasa Systems The Star Fraction	Posted - 2006.08.11 08:10:00 - [93] Originally by: Ethidium Bromide so i hope that KIA will accept our roleplaying and calling them ape men and heathens and see that it is not smack but just our way to deal with things. For KIA it might well be just a contract, for us it's another station on our way to justify and defend not only our RP points of view and goals but also our style of gaming. I seem to recall KIA having no problems going in-character when they were hired against Star Fraction. Quite the contrary. Chill and shoot, pretty much.
Aodha Khan Minmatar Blood Inquisition	Posted - 2006.08.11 11:32:00 - [94] Originally by: Archbishop I will just say as an RPer I find myself disappointed and let down a bit. I thought someones RP was going to shape up a bit and it apparently hasnt. I feel like I wasted time the other day talking to someone now. Archbishop (Whomever this person is, hiring mercs does not make for bad RP. Who are you anyway, the RP police?) Good hunting, KIA. The end is coming Amarr loyalist maggots, it's only a matter of time. So in war, the way is to avoid what is strong and to strike at what is weak.
Garreck Amarr Border Defense Consortium Curatores Veritatis Alliance	Posted - 2006.08.11 13:15:00 - [95] Originally by: Aodha Khan The end is coming Amarr loyalist maggots, it's only a matter of time. Where have I heard this before? Pretty amazing, given the amount of kills CVA have been racking up between r3 and kheram, that you think a 3 week contract (extendable) will make a difference...
Mitchman Omniscient Order Verisum Family	Posted - 2006.08.11 14:41:00 - [96] Edited by: Mitchman on 11/08/2006 14:41:07 Originally by: Garreck Originally by: Aodha Khan The end is coming Amarr loyalist maggots, it's only a matter of time. Where have I heard this before? Pretty amazing, given the amount of kills CVA have been racking up between r3 and kheram, that you think a 3 week contract (extendable) will make a difference... Not sure what kills you are talking about, but we (OMNOR) have 513 kills against CVA and allies, of which 144 of those are against CVA. That is not including random corps in providence.
Aodha Khan Minmatar Blood Inquisition	Posted - 2006.08.11 14:49:00 - [97] Edited by: Aodha Khan on 11/08/2006 14:49:34 Originally by: Mitchman Not sure what kills you are talking about, Must be the 2 ships BI have lost to CVA/PIE/AM this month. So in war, the way is to avoid what is strong and to strike at what is weak.
Rodj Blake Amarr PIE Inc.	Posted - 2006.08.11 14:54:00 - [98] Originally by: Aodha Khan The end is coming Amarr loyalist maggots, it's only a matter of time. If I had an ISK every time someone has said this or something similar, I'd be the richest person in Eve. PIE was born on the first day of Eve, we're still here, we're still going strong, and we're not going away any time soon. Dulce et decorum est, pro imperator mori
Garreck Amarr Border Defense Consortium Curatores Veritatis Alliance	Posted - 2006.08.11 15:03:00 - [99] Originally by: Mitchman Not sure what kills you are talking about, but we (OMNOR) have 513 kills against CVA and allies, of which 144 of those are against CVA. That is not including random corps in providence. Petty, Mitchman. You know there are several enemies of the CVA in the area beyond Omniscient Order.
zenofmoo Amarr Prizm Ventures Ltd.	Posted - 2006.08.11 15:27:00 - [100] Originally by: Aodha Khan snip Good hunting, KIA. The end is coming Amarr loyalist maggots, it's only a matter of time. And you would be the one to do it, Minmatar scum? Though not aligned with CVA and PIE I will aid my brothers to again claim what is ours, when necessary. (OOC Comment - No we are not an RP corp, but it can be fun from time to time) Chief Tard (CEO) Prism Ventures Ltd.

Hans Roaming Body Count Inc. Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2006.08.11 15:29:00 - [101] Look like CVA are having a fight of their lives and as their pockets are deep I can see this will only make them stronger and draw more to their cause. Garreck I want to see you dishing out that gallente love, can't let the side down m8. Good to see the old faces and nothing beats a CVA guys quoting scripture in local as you will soon find out KIA!
KIAEddZ Caldari KIA Corp	Posted - 2006.08.11 15:40:00 - [102] Edited by: KIAEddZ on 11/08/2006 15:44:27 I promise this Hans. KIA make no bold accusations of the consequence of our contract, we care not, there will be no smack from us, and no thought for what is said in local. Our abilty and thus reputation is under scrutiny, people are watching, and what they are about to see is a war of such velocity, maintaining such ferocity, that only the strong will remain standing when KIA sign off the contract end. This won't be a "fun" war for our marks, as far as KIA is concerned this is one is for keeps. So, Prep up CVA, the last thing KIA want is to catch you with your pants down, believe that this will be like nothing you have felt before, and be ready for it. I am back and thus KIA is back, and we will be showing no quarter, there will be no Parlez given. This ride just got very real. KIA Piccys
Garreck Amarr Border Defense Consortium Curatores Veritatis Alliance	Posted - 2006.08.11 15:48:00 - [103] Originally by: KIAEddZ Our abilty and thus reputation is under scrutiny, people are watching, and what they are about to see is a war of such velocity, maintaining such ferocity, that only the strong will remain standing when KIA sign off the contract end. I completely relate. Let's do it. No arguments about what makes good or bad rp, no sandbagging or excuses...let's tear each other up.
Aran Cole Minmatar Xerxes Enterprises Aegis Militia	Posted - 2006.08.11 17:07:00 - [104] I hope no one in KIA takes it personally if they find themselves attacked by Aegis Militia in the course of their actions against our allies _______________________
Murukan Minmatar The Priory	Posted - 2006.08.11 20:23:00 - [105] Originally by: Aran Cole I hope no one in KIA takes it personally if they find themselves attacked by Aegis Militia in the course of their actions against our allies lol oh noes the mighty Aegis militia might shoot you In rust we trust!!!
Lowa Gallente North Star Networks Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2006.08.11 20:31:00 - [106] Originally by: Garreck I completely relate. Let's do it. No arguments about what makes good or bad rp, no sandbagging or excuses...let's tear each other up. G'damn some people know how to do the sexy talk! /Lowa NSN - Forcing EVE reviewers to mine since 2003!
Archbishop Amarr PIE Inc.	Posted - 2006.08.11 23:09:00 - [107] Quote: " Quote: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Either way the employer is obviously an inept coward unable to fight his own battles so he runs and hires mercs. I think that says alot about who he is as a person. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Now, hold on a minute there. Take a look at what you are saying from an RP standpoint. Think about the history and purpose of mercs in the real world and EVE as well. Our role has always been either to support a larger force to ensure specific goals are accomplished or to be the tip of the sword for an overall greater purpose. You've got a group of people who are weaker than you militarily but they have the economic power to still see their will done. They are willing to use that economic power to see events shaped to their desires. History is filled with tales of rich people who use others in order to achieve their goals." Thats nice but as far as RP goes (which is who we are) it really means nothing. In the end we're still around and these "employers" really have accomplished nothing. As you've said Seleene you've read the entire conflict thus I would guess you can see the true motivation behind it. If not feel free to convo me ingame and I'll be happy to discuss it. It has nothing to do with IG events at all really just ego and jealousy. If this were about ingame desires and motivations I'd agree with you 100%. You'll recall I support the merc concept. My objection comes when OOG motivations enter the equation and overrule common sense. You'd actually be really surprised at the motivations in play here and some of the very non-game things threatend (very non-game economical if you ask me). Quote: " Quote: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- So I'll just point out as I said above....... they're not RPers at all. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Why is that? Because they are not doing this the way you would? M8, CVA is one of the most well-established alliances in EVE. There is a core of morale and dedication there that few others in this game can even match. In an RP sense, CVA is arrogant and self-righteous to a fault, which is fine because TBH you've earned the right to be that way due to three years of accomplishments. In character or out of character, can you really blame your opponent for using every means at their disposal to try to take you down?" As I've indicated above I'll be happy to discuss privately the "real world" with you if you like. I know you can keep a secret. Rest assured though in this particular case it has nothing to do with RP (which would be ingame) and everything to do with OOG issues. The entire event crossed the RP/IG vs. OOG/RL line quite awhile back and is frankly downright ridiculous. As a roleplayer I could care less how people RP ingame. I dont really care for alot of RP that happens in Eve but that doesnt mean I'm going to call them RPers. I dont like the SF RP for example but I consider SF very good RPers. Likewise I dont like the RP of several other groups but that doesn't mean I dont consider them RPers. No this has nothing to do with RP and I guess thats why its so sad. A real good RP war we could sink our teeth into would be great. In this case though unlike all our other wars where we can sit down together after battle and talk like friends this war enemy is filled with very RL hatred and bile. I guess thats where I draw the line. Either way its war and we'll deal with it. It doesnt make it "RP" though because someone says it is as a mask to hide RL motivations of revenge. When you can seperate the RP from the RL then you'll be an RPer. I've fallen a few times on that front and my RP has diminished as a result. Its a fine line but you need to walk it. Archbishop PIE WEBSITE & FORUMS PIE INFORMATION CENTER
Archbishop Amarr PIE Inc.	Posted - 2006.08.11 23:13:00 - [108] Quote: " I will just say as an RPer I find myself disappointed and let down a bit. I thought someones RP was going to shape up a bit and it apparently hasnt. I feel like I wasted time the other day talking to someone now. Archbishop -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- (Whomever this person is, hiring mercs does not make for bad RP. Who are you anyway, the RP police?)" Adoha. I'm referring to an individual with whom I had a private conversation where I thought some things were resolved. Given that and now this YES I am very disappointed in someone. This is a very OOC disappointment also because as it was an honest OOC discussion. I could care less how people RP. I dont have to engage them. I was speaking very OOC. On another front though I will add if this was indeed RP wouldn't the employer be gloating about his plot to destroy the Amarrians? In this case we have nothing but a war dec. Not even a pretense of reason. I'm willing to give KIA the benefit of the doubt as I've fought with them on several occasions in the past. I know KIAEddz as an honorable player and I respect the KIA organization (although I dont approve of alt spies). So I'll cut them alot of slack for the job they have to do. Archbishop PIE WEBSITE & FORUMS PIE INFORMATION CENTER
Garreck Amarr Border Defense Consortium Curatores Veritatis Alliance	Posted - 2006.08.11 23:32:00 - [109] Originally by: Archbishop In the end in three weeks KIA will run along to the next contract and PIE and CVA will still be around ready to resume normal operations. Daily pvp against dangerous opponents is "normal operations" for the CVA. I can say this in an ooc forum: Archie, you're coming across very defeatist here before any shots have even been fired. Let's just kick some ass, eh? Our reputations are no less on the line here than KIA's are.
Octavinus Augustus	Posted - 2006.08.11 23:45:00 - [110] I'll offer a few personal comments on this. First off, there's currently only one entity at war with both CVA and PIE who has a recent history of using mercenaries - that entity being VF. So one may naturally assume that VF are behind this contract. But let us stick to calling our true opponents the "mysterious contractor" for now. Let us then look at the PR aspects of the coming war. If the various promises of a great fight holds true (which I seriously hope they will), you will find that the names spoken of when history is written will be KIA, CVA and PIE - not "the mysterious contractors". This will again mean that while KIA will probably gain some good PR for enlisting pilots who wants to be mercenaries, it will be CVA and PIE who will get the PR for protecting the empire - which again will lead to an increase in recruitment. So we will come out stronger in numbers than we went in - while "the mysterious contractors" will not. There can also be little doubt that the combined economic power of CVA and PIE is far greater than that of "the mysterious contractors" - so even if we should loose ships far out of proportion to the ones we shoot down, we can sustain this far longer than our opponent. KIA might (depending on their skill) actually come out of their contract better off than they go in, but in the CVA/PIE vrs "mysterious contractor" conflict CVA/PIE are sure winners. So personally, I'm looking forward to this war - we will win! I hope and pray that KIA will live up to the standards I've been led to expect, both skill wise and anti-smack wise. If they do, this will surely be fun. Finally a quote and a comment for the RP'ers out there: Originally by: Aodha Khan The end is coming Amarr loyalist maggots, it's only a matter of time. I do know of a person called maggot, but I seriously doubt he'd want to be called an Amarr loyalist.....

Archbishop Amarr PIE Inc.	Posted - 2006.08.11 23:49:00 - [111] Quote: "Daily pvp against dangerous opponents is "normal operations" for the CVA. I can say this in an ooc forum: Archie, you're coming across very defeatist here before any shots have even been fired." Not at all Garreck I'm looking forward to a kickazz war here. Im just saying in the end nothing changes. We're still around. I'm sure both sides will lose ships. The tactic of KIA using alts in corps to spy on teamspeak is well known whereas we prefer to win and lose using what ingame resources we have with our "real" characters. So theres a bit of an ethical gap there but thats ok. I personally think KIA has never had an opponent like PIE or the CVA and I think they'll be a bit surprised. Maybe they have once in the UshraKhan and while KIA destroyed alot of UK ships (using the alt spy deal) the UK emerged more powerful than ever and just as dedicated to RP as they ever were. I guess I'm speaking more to their employer than anyone else here. If you thought you'd "gank" the Amarrians and spoil their fun think again. Regardless of how much isk you spend and how much you OOG hate us (real motives here for you) and how OOG jealous you are (more real motives here) in the end you've already failed because we stand united, we'll still be here afterwards, and we're still committed to the Amarrian RP community. And most of all we're having a darn blast and want to kick some azz! You lost the minute you took it OOG like you did. You've lost already before a single shot was fired. I find that hysterical. Archie PIE WEBSITE & FORUMS PIE INFORMATION CENTER
Dracolich North Star Networks Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2006.08.12 01:25:00 - [112] Good luck to all sides. I hope you will have fun. _______________________________________ Does killing the weak, make you feel strong?
Marmite Starfish Caldari The Priory	Posted - 2006.08.12 09:33:00 - [113] GL kia
Akira Kaneshiro Caldari Associated Press	Posted - 2006.08.12 09:40:00 - [114] GL to Pia & CVA!!! Kick that pseudo merc corp!
Amaria Amaar	Posted - 2006.08.12 11:00:00 - [115] GL to all (who are they)??
Der Pfaffe Karnival of Death Squad	Posted - 2006.08.13 01:03:00 - [116] Premise: I am a bit unsober so I apologise in advance.... Kia do RP.. They RP being mercenaries, so I don't understand the discussion about rp'ers or non rp'ers. Because they do not rant on about heretics, pigdog reactionaries, slaves or piglets, doesn't mean they are not rp'ing. They just get on with shooting the targets they are paid to shoot. As already mentioned, mercenaries have been part of warfare since ancient times, so it should come as no surprise that it should also be part of warfare in EVE and the role-playing within Eve. If you are worried about smacktalk in local, forget it, you will be lucky if Kia speak in local, even to say good fight... As in real life, one can agree or even be disgusted by the role played by Mercs in a war situation, however the fact remains they exist and they do play a role. In Eve, KIA are one of the corps that play that role and, if paid to do so, they will hunt you relentlessly. I hope all involved have lots of fun ... (that's what it's all about, isn't it?) "Kill one frighten ten thousand" - Sun Tzu
Seleene Body Count Inc. Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2006.08.14 11:56:00 - [117] Update? How'd it go this weekend? Any nice fights? How many KIA piglets / CVA slaver dogs met a horrible end? - Latest MC Movie - Nation Building
Ethidium Bromide ZEALOT WARRIORS AGAINST TERRORISTS Curatores Veritatis Alliance	Posted - 2006.08.14 12:19:00 - [118] Originally by: Seleene Update? How'd it go this weekend? Any nice fights? How many KIA piglets / CVA slaver dogs met a horrible end? can only talk bout saturday afternoon as i wasn't there for the rest of the weekend. lots of muscles were flexed (for like 3 hours) on both sides, no bigger fight happened. had to attend planet bound business then _________________________________ just because you are not paranoid doesn't mean i'm not following!
Hans Roaming Body Count Inc. Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2006.08.14 12:46:00 - [119] Yeah please keep updates on how the war is going, Archbishop you mentioned out of game stuff, what is that about as I juest read in game stuff here. Oh and thanks for the original pic that now forms my sig. :)
Yazoul Samaiel Caldari Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.08.14 12:49:00 - [120] Originally by: Hans Roaming Yeah please keep updates on how the war is going, Archbishop you mentioned out of game stuff, what is that about as I juest read in game stuff here. Oh and thanks for the original pic that now forms my sig. :) Go check the KIA KBs ya lazy MC gits :P I am pretty sure Eddez will have a warm fuzzy feeling if u do and he will purrrr on TS "What ever that doesn't Kill me just makes me stronger"



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