Originally by: Sulavan

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English isn't the first language for everyone that posts here. Have some tolerance.

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Originally by: Sulavan

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English isn't the first language for everyone that posts here. Have some tolerance.

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Originally by: Alexi Borizkova

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I saw a variety of grammatical errors in the OP( for instance, "And" may not begin a sentence), which detracts from the "message".

If you're going to cast stones, at least open your window first.

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Originally by: Jim McGregor

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I dont think people write like they do because of ignorance. They just dont care if the post is difficult to read.

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Originally by: Jim McGregor

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I dont think people write like they do because of ignorance. They just dont care if the post is difficult to read.

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Originally by: James Lyrus

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Let me share with you all a secret.
If you write something on the internet, that you're hoping a lot of people will read and respond to it,
then it's far more likely to be so, if it's well written.

It might seem like a drag, but your English teachers were right. Punctuate, form sentences and paragraphs, and your writing is much more readable.

And if it's more readable, then people are more likely to read it.

I've run into a number of situations where I've seen a block of 100 lines of text, with barely a full stop (period for those in the US) between them.

I appreciate that there are those who don't have English as their first language, and those that suffer dyslexia. The sad fact is, the worst examples of English I've run into are those who do not have these problems, and it's technically their first and only language.

So here's a few thoughts on how to make your post read:

Paragraphs. Double lines between them. A paragraph is for outlining a 'thought' or 'concept'. Keep one of these in each paragraph, and people will read it.

Punctuate. Commas and full stops (periods) are essential parts of sentence flow. They allow you to put the string of consciousness into blocks that are possible to interpret easily. Oh, and put capital letters where they're needed, and not where they're not.

L33t/txt. Just don't. There's a(should be There are) very, very few situations where l33t or txt spk are acceptable. Mostly in an environment where you're limited in your character count (e.g. a text message). And even then, if you're using txt spk to send me 20 character message, I'm going to be annoyed. (The limit on SMS messaging is, if I recall correctly, 160 characters). Otherwise, there's really, truly and honestly very little 'speed difference' between 'txt' and proper typing. Especially when what you're trying to do is have a conversation or interaction with someone, when your 'txt' slows down their reading.

I'm also a lot more tolerant about 'abbreviated' English in a time critical medium, e.g. gang chat, where you might not have a lot of time to write. But on a forum, there's really no excuse for not taking a _little_ bit longer to write something that the other 100 people you're hoping will read it ]don't have to struggle through.

Spelling. It helps a lot if you spell stuff right. Mostly people don't tend to mind, although the prevalence of rouge drones and turrents is a little frustrating. Spell checkers really are a wonderful thing.

It's really not hard to write coherent and legibly. If you suffer dyslexia, I appreciate it's a bit harder. (For those that _are_ actually dyslexic, and not just plain lazy). If English is not your first language, then I'm a whole lot more tolerant (although most non-English people I run into on forums have a standard well above the average).

The thing is, what you're doing when posting on a forum is asking people to read what you've written. If you 'can't be bothered' to do a proper job, and you're just one person, why should they 'be bothered' to read it, and maybe consider, respond and comment? I wouldn't be too suprised to find that the probability of getting flamed increased dramatically on posts that were badly written. If you want someone to do you the favour of reading your posts, then it's only polite to make it as easy as possible to do so.

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Originally by: Vadoc Trax

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The only actual players are BoB, everyone else are their alts, and alts of alts.

CCP is also BoB.

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Originally by: ArtemisEntreri

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I just had to do this.

Originally by: James Lyrus

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*some text*

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If I didn't find something please feel free to add.

P.S.
English is my 3rd language

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Originally by: ArtemisEntreri

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I just had to do this.
P.S.
English is my 3rd language

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Originally by: Jim McGregor

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I dont think people write like they do because of ignorance. They just dont care if the post is difficult to read.

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Originally by: James Lyrus

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Originally by: ArtemisEntreri

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I just had to do this.

Originally by: James Lyrus

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*some text*

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If I didn't find something please feel free to add.

P.S.
English is my 3rd language

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Hey, at least I tried.

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Originally by: Vadoc Trax

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The only actual players are BoB, everyone else are their alts, and alts of alts.

CCP is also BoB.

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Originally by: Archilies

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Ignore what others say: Fit what you want, with what you have, whenever you want.

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Originally by: spurious signal

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Far, far, FAR too many commas.

If you're going to criticise other people's punctuation then you really should get it right yourself.

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Originally by: News

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While I appreciate your effort to get people to write decently in their posts, I wouldn't bother if I were you. I have given up on expecting proper spelling and grammer on the internet a long time ago. It's just no use.

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Originally by: ArtemisEntreri

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I just had to do this.

Originally by: James Lyrus

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Let me share with you all a secret.
If you write something on the internet, (unnecessary comma) that you're hoping a lot of people will read and respond to it,
then it's far more likely to be so(I don't like this word here, perhaps 'read' instead?),(unnecessary comma) if it's well written.

It might seem like a drag, but your English teachers were right. Punctuate, form sentences and paragraphs, and your writing is much more readable.

And if it's more readable, then people are more likely to read it.

I've run into a number of situations where I've seen a block of 100 lines of text,(unnecessary comma) with barely a full stop (period for those in the US) between them.

I appreciate that there are those who don't have English as their first language,(unnecessary comma) and those that suffer dyslexia. The sad fact is,(unnecessary comma) that the worst examples of English I've run into are those who do not have these problems,(unnecessary comma) and it's technically their first and only language.

So here's a few thoughts on how to make your post read:

Paragraphs. Double lines between them. A paragraph is for outlining a 'thought' or 'concept'. Keep one of these in each paragraph, and people will read it.

Punctuate. Commas and full stops (periods) are essential parts of sentence flow. They allow you to put the string of consciousness into blocks that are possible to interpret easily. Oh, and put capital letters where they're needed, and not where they're not.

L33t/txt. Just don't. There's a(should be There are) very, very few situations where l33t or txt spk are acceptable. Mostly in an environment where you're limited in your character count (e.g. a text message). And even then, if you're using txt spk to send me 20 character message, I'm going to be annoyed. (The limit on SMS messaging is, if I recall correctly, 160 characters). Otherwise,(unnecessary comma) there's really, truly and honestly very little 'speed difference' between 'txt' and proper typing. Especially when what you're trying to do is have a conversation or interaction with someone,(unnecessary comma) and your 'txt' slows down their reading.

I'm also a lot more tolerant about 'abbreviated' English in a time critical medium, e.g. gang chat, where you might not have a lot of time to write. But on a forum, there's really no excuse for not taking a _little_ bit longer to write something that the other 100 people you're hoping will read it ]don't have to struggle through.

Spelling. It helps a lot if you spell stuff right. Mostly people don't tend to mind, although the prevalence of rouge drones and turrents is a little frustrating. Spell checkers really are a wonderful thing.

<perfect paragraph, cutting to save space>

The thing is, what you're doing when posting on a forum is asking people to read what you've written. If you 'can't be bothered' to do a proper job, and you're just one person, why should they 'be bothered' to read it, and maybe consider, respond and comment?(run on sentence) I wouldn't be too suprised to find that the probability of getting flamed increased dramatically on posts that were badly written. If you want someone to do you the favour of reading your posts, then it's only polite to make it as easy as possible to do so.

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If I didn't find something please feel free to add.

P.S.
English is my 3rd language

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Originally by: Rayvonuk

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Most normal people dont care as long as the "bad writer" is trying his best to make us understand them.

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Originally by: Rayvonuk

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As well as the errors mentioned above there is also too many commas and too many paragraphs, and sentences should not begin with And.
If you are going to be pompus enough to do a post like this at least do it right.
Most normal people dont care as long as the "bad writer" is trying his best to make us understand them.

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