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Rexthor Hammerfists
Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.08.11 16:36:00 -
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;), its lag dude, just lag - :P - Purple Conquered The World, We the Universe.
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Mujun Kross
Gallente Vogon Deconstruction Fleet Ratel Alliance
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Posted - 2006.08.11 16:39:00 -
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Its not a bug...as usual when things go badly for ginger he comes on the forums and makes stuff up so that his story sounds better. The simple truth is he misjudged the torps as standards and did not realize that they were moving as fast as a cruise msl.
funny as hell to be honest
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Berrik Radhok
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2006.08.11 16:40:00 -
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Originally by: Hellspawn01 There are multiple reason why this happened: - Lag - Minmatar recon had you webbed - Lag and torps bumped you - Lag and damage got screwed and torps hit you for more than the usual damage
The last one happens pretty often to turrets users. They hit for normal damage and a second later they kill a freighter with 3-4 hits (Farjungs movie).
being webbed makes you warp faster Sig removed, inappropriate content - Cortes |

Serna
Minmatar Republic University
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Posted - 2006.08.11 16:43:00 -
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He's just ****ed because now he's actually the victim. heh
Oh and a day before this..
2006.08.08
Victim: Ginger Magician Alliance: None Corp: Mentally Unstable Enterprises Destroyed: Megathron System: Hagilur Security: 0.4
Destroyed items:
Electron Blaster Cannon II Electron Blaster Cannon II Electron Blaster Cannon II Heavy Electrochemical Capacitor Booster I Conjunctive Magnetometric ECCM Scanning Array I Large Armor Repairer II N-Type Kinetic Hardener I 1600mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I 1600mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I Heavy Diminishing Power System Drain I Heavy Diminishing Power System Drain I Electron Blaster Cannon II Electron Blaster Cannon II Sensor Booster II Void L, Qty: 350 (Cargo) Void L, Qty: 197 Void L, Qty: 197 Void L, Qty: 197 Void L, Qty: 197
2006.08.08
Victim: Ginger Magician Alliance: None Corp: Mentally Unstable Enterprises Destroyed: Capsule System: Hagilur Security: 0.4
2006.08.08 For your termination of Ginger Magician we have paid you the bounty that was set to his head: 101,230,001 ISK
And if that wasn't bad enough, he tries to be brave with his alt i'm guessing..
2006.08.08 00:11:00
Victim: Sprungle Spormen Alliance: None Corp: Mentally Unstable Enterprises Destroyed: Armageddon System: Hagilur Security: 0.4
Destroyed items:
'Accord' I Core Compensation Small Shield Extender II (Cargo) Fleeting Progressive Warp Scrambler I (Cargo) Antimatter Charge S, Qty: 1000 (Cargo) Uranium Charge S, Qty: 760 (Cargo) Sensor Booster II Tachyon Afocal Maser I Tachyon Afocal Maser I Tracking Computer II Medium Anode Particle Stream I Heat Sink II Tracking Enhancer II Heat Sink II Tracking Enhancer II Microwave L (Cargo) Microwave L (Cargo) Microwave L (Cargo) Radio L (Cargo) Radio L (Cargo) Radio L (Cargo) Multifrequency L Lead Charge S, Qty: 80 (Cargo) Lead Charge S, Qty: 80 (Cargo) Lead Charge S, Qty: 40 (Cargo) Lead Charge S, Qty: 40 (Cargo) Bloodclaw Light Missile, Qty: 42 (Cargo) Sabretooth Light Missile, Qty: 300 (Cargo)
Sorry for such a long post.. just like seeing people get what they deserve. 
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Jet Collins
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Posted - 2006.08.11 16:45:00 -
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Originally by: Ginger Magician Mate think before u post.My speed was almost at warp around 100m/s in a megathron without any speed boosters.AFter torpedos hit me the first time my speed fell back to 24m/s.How do u explain this? No other ship was closer than 100km to me at the time also.And cloaked ships can neither bump u nor lock u without decloaking.
cloaked ship bumbed inbetween cloak cycles ... now thats some skills :)
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LUGAL MOP'N'GLO
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Posted - 2006.08.11 16:47:00 -
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Originally by: Ginger Magician
Upon contact my speed was reduce from 100m/s to around 24m/s and there was not enough time to get speed back up to warp out.
How did you see your speed? Doesn't it just say "Warping"? Just curious. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Win a Cynabal for 10ml!!! |

inSpirAcy
Caldari The Solopwnmobiles
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Posted - 2006.08.11 16:51:00 -
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Originally by: Serna Sorry for such a long post.. just like seeing people get what they deserve. 
I'd wipe that, killmails aren't allowed on the forum.
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Ginger Magician
Minmatar Mentally Unstable Enterprises
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Posted - 2006.08.11 16:53:00 -
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Edited by: Ginger Magician on 11/08/2006 16:54:19 U can see your speed on the speedometer it only says warping when u reach warp speed. And Sprungle is my apprentice not my alt.And yes I have suffered a few losses lately but I have also killed a lot too.C'est la vie. U can ask The Imperial Commonwealth about those kills btw.They took rather a lot of em
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Hugh Ruka
Caldari
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Posted - 2006.08.11 17:06:00 -
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Originally by: Ginger Magician Edited by: Ginger Magician on 11/08/2006 16:54:19 U can see your speed on the speedometer it only says warping when u reach warp speed. And Sprungle is my apprentice not my alt.And yes I have suffered a few losses lately but I have also killed a lot too.C'est la vie. U can ask The Imperial Commonwealth about those kills btw.They took rather a lot of em
it says Warping from the time you give the warp command till the warp ends. if you hover your mouse oveer the speed bar, then you see your actual speed in the readout.
btw you made thinkgs up or were no paying attention. there would be more ppl complaining if what you say were true ...
Originally by: JP Beauregard The experience with Exodus playtesting has scarred me for life. Those were bug-reports, not feature requests, you numbskulls.... 
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Nebuli
Caldari Art of War
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Posted - 2006.08.11 17:10:00 -
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Just out of interest has ANYONE else ever had (since it was removed) a torp bump them and make them suddenly slow down?
Couldnt begind to count the amount of torps I have been hit by, but NEVER had this happen, since it was fixed it simply doesnt happen anymore.
"IF" your speed did suddenly decrease it was NOT due to the missiles hitting you.
And please, if youre going to whine about something at least find something worthwhile and truthfull to complain about, seriously.
CEO - Art of War
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Grey Area
Caldari
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Posted - 2006.08.11 17:14:00 -
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Used to think Ginger Magician was a bit of a git to be honest. However, now that he's posted this SOLELY for our amusement, I've decided there must be a least a BIT of a nice bloke about him...
...or at least a comedian. --- Monty Pythons spoof of the EVE Forums; Palin: "Is this the right room for an argument?" Cleese: "I've told you once." |

Double TaP
The Establishment
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Posted - 2006.08.11 17:21:00 -
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torps dont bump. period.
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Emperor D'Hoffryn
Low Grade Ore
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Posted - 2006.08.11 17:40:00 -
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while jave torps do seem a mite over powered (not much of a penalty in using them perhaps?) there is a turret version in tech2 ammo. Aurora for example, does the damage of gamma (second highest damage laser ammo) at ranges beyond radio (furthest range laser ammo) for penalty of sucky tracking, which doesnt matter much at range. So there is a turret BS that can do same damage at 150km as it does at 40km.
Originally by: Tuxford Yes we don't play on our main accounts simply because you would lose all respect for us 
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Ginger Magician
Minmatar Mentally Unstable Enterprises
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Posted - 2006.08.11 17:47:00 -
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Sucky tracking makes a hell of difference my friend.The damage will be considerably reduced compared to what u would normally do at close range u can be sure of that.And bad tracking makes small ships almost impossible to hit unless they are stationary. I think that what happened to me may have been due to lag.There was a fair number of ships in this encounter and also fighter drones and there was lag. The problem is that lag is never taken into account in server logs or petitions.All that happens is that they say "the logs accurately reflect waht happened in this combat" but we all know that logs dont show lag so what? Over the years i have lost a fair number of bs to lag and one pod so its been quite a painful experince for me.Carebears who only engage in combat once in a blue mooon can never understand what pvpers have to go through in this game.
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Matrix Aran
Legio Immortalis
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Posted - 2006.08.11 18:04:00 -
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Originally by: Ginger Magician Carebears who only engage in combat once in a blue mooon can never understand what pvpers have to go through in this game.
And PVPers who decide to engage targets at ranges under 150KM without 8 warpcore stabs can only laugh at that statement. I'm sorry Ginger but when you get torpedoed at 150km you just deserve to be laughed at 
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MuffinsRevenger
EmpiresMod
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Posted - 2006.08.11 18:05:00 -
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You got ownt :D
stop complaining allready ^^
Originally by: The Wizz117 jeez those guyz @ ccp talk like sweedish nobody will take u seriouse with that cind of accent.
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Ithildin
Gallente The Corporation
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Posted - 2006.08.11 18:33:00 -
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Originally by: Ginger Magician <Original (first) post>
You were most probably desynced. A Megathron with no nanofibers takes about 12 seconds with perfect skills to get to warp from 0 m/s to 85% speed, assuming alignment is not needed. In this time the two Megathrons hitting you should be able to cycle at least 3 volleys. The only odd thing is that the really messy killmail found on Battle Clinic would have us believe the Raven did most damage. Regardless, assuming that the two unaccounted for low slots did not contain any 1600mm plates (in which case the speed-up process would actually take longer) and that they didn't quite start doing damage before the first volley of torps hit - they should be able to kill you before you're up to warp speed.
There is nothing strange about this. The only thing strange is the way your client reacted to the hits, but my guess is that the speed-down you experienced was in fact you entering your pod with graphics and stuff stuttering from desync. It happens.
In this patch, torps don't even bump my interceptors more than a few millimeters per second. Dark skies torn apart Heavens open before me I, the light of death |

Wireknight
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Posted - 2006.08.11 18:53:00 -
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Oh man, EVE 2006 really *is* a disaster for you!
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Gredgelock
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Posted - 2006.08.11 18:54:00 -
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Originally by: Ginger Magician Its annoying niggles like this which spoil the game for many
change your pad and get over it.. lost an apoc with named repairer and named hardeners. not to mention all the tachs i had from a corp mate shootin a sentery on a lvl 4 extraviganza. could not warp for 3 min while getting hit.. dont see me crying. its a game with monopoly money.
Baby
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Eepzy Nimbles
Nimbles Covenant
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Posted - 2006.08.11 18:55:00 -
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I've had this happen to me before (although no missiles were involved). It is lag.
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M00dy
ISS Navy Task Force Interstellar Starbase Syndicate
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Posted - 2006.08.11 18:58:00 -
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Could of been a corpse.
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Foulis
Minmatar Chosen Path Center for Disease Creation
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Posted - 2006.08.11 18:59:00 -
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Originally by: Kaar
Originally by: murder one You got shot down, and we're all happy about it. Please continue with the current mode of operation.
QFT 
/signed ----
Cake > Pie - Imaran Cathath > Imaran - Cathath
Originally by: CCP Hammer Boobies
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Archilies
Elite United Corp Antigo Dominion
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Posted - 2006.08.11 19:02:00 -
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hold up!
What were you doing in a fleet engagement?

Recruitment Thread
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Xendie
Brutor tribe
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Posted - 2006.08.11 19:06:00 -
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lol couldnt have happened to a more deserving person 
Quote: Nertzius > having fun being incompetitent?
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Izo Azlion
Veto.
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Posted - 2006.08.11 19:21:00 -
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Originally by: Ginger Magician Yes all have a good laugh.Only to be expected.But nevertheless i was bumped out of warp by these torpedos and it wasnt funny for me.I lost a full set of 425 tech 2 rails which arent cheap. Its annoying niggles like this which spoil the game for many and they deserve either to be sorted out or posted about on patch notes so that all players can have access to the correct info about the game.
Mehehehehhe....
Mehehehehehe! Awwh, poor baby.
Dont fly what you cant afford to lose. Dont cry about it when you do. File a bug report if your that arsed about it, but dont post on the general forums, you jus get laughed at.
Izo Azlion.
--- Veto.
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Fuglife
Celestial Apocalypse
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Posted - 2006.08.11 19:37:00 -
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Put a torp launcher on your mega Ginger then you can 'warp scramble' them whilst sniping!
I taught darth everything he knows. Including the velcro boots trick. dbp
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Aeaus
Tharsis Security
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Posted - 2006.08.11 19:45:00 -
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Geez that lost couldn't have cost you more 100M ISK, quit whining =/
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Carnye Dubro
Caldari Legion Corporation
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Posted - 2006.08.11 19:48:00 -
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Originally by: Archilies hold up!
What were you doing in a fleet engagement?
lol... it sounds more like the fleet was engaging HIM...
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Eudyptes sclateri
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Posted - 2006.08.11 20:01:00 -
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Originally by: M00dy Could of been a corpse.
That made me laugh. Reminded me of the story about a covert ops ship that got decloaked by a corpse. 
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MrCjEvans
Caldari Shinra
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Posted - 2006.08.11 20:04:00 -
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Originally by: Ginger Magician It seems that raven pilots no longer need to fit warp scramblers to their ships. Yesterday during a fleet engagement I was engaging multiple targets approx 120-130km away from the gate.A raven using javelin bane torpedos fired 2 volleys on me or more.The first volley and other bs fire took my ship down to hull and the second finished me off.The whole time these missiles were hitting me i was engaged to warp having started to warp from an aligned postion but not at max speed prior to the first volley of torpedos hitting me. Upon contact my speed was reduce from 100m/s to around 24m/s and there was not enough time to get speed back up to warp out. I find this rather disturbing as I do not recall ever having lost a bs at such long range before and certainly not to a torpedo raven. Whenever posts are made about the overpowerment of torpedo ravens the usual suspects make long whining posts about how torps can only hit at very limited ranges and thus can justify their extreme damage since they only hit close range.Well this latest experience shows them to be wrong. What is the point of flying turret battleships when torpedo ravens can hit for full damage at 150km and knock u out of warp into the bargain? Where is the turret battleship that does the same damage at 150km as it does at 40km? This is bull**** CCP sort it the **** out.
Its just your lack of experience mate, i would put money on the torps bumped you, why on earth you waited for the first lot of torps to hit you if you was primary i have no idea.
Primary - as in you would have seen them all with red boxes around then as to tell you they had initiated hostile actions, as soon as the turret ships hit you, you should have done one.
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