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Sarkos
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Posted - 2003.10.10 15:38:00 -
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Many of the Caldari ships have the most number of Mid slots in the game, so add 2 or 3 LiF's.
Either free the slaves or we will come and get them.
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j0sephine
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Posted - 2003.10.10 16:24:00 -
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""Fast" is not a word I associate with most people when it comes down to targetting. In fact, it seem the pirates are the only ones that have heard of a skill called signature analysis "
... *tries to hide the character sheet behind back and kick the sensor booster out of the Griffin at the same time* o.o;;;
"My god...Mines may have a use all of a sudden "
... LAGSPLOITOMFGBANTTiBBQ :o!
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Raucus
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Posted - 2003.10.10 17:11:00 -
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Quote: Anyone think this? I think that these modules (mwd and cloak) are unbalanced towards caldari ships..
Caldari ships depend on sheilds.. you take out its sheilds, you can kiss it good bye..
These modules for example MWD take off 50% sheilds.. This is very very bad towards Caldari since they depend on sheilds. You take any other ship execpt maybe for minmatar, its a no prob penalty..
Now they got -100% sheilds with the cloaking modules, this is very unbalanced towards caldari since Caldari depends on sheilds and that pretty much just kills caldari shields, any caldari ship with this on will surely die in a heart beat. Now you take any other race ship that depend on armor/hull, **** this is a huge bonus for them..
Anyone else agree with me on this?
Shut up carebear....go pod yourself n00b....
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CT BadIronTree
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Posted - 2003.10.10 18:17:00 -
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if you use cloak and then attack you are stupid
cloaking is not for attacking
pirates will not use cloak... or one of them will in a friget
cloaking = defendless
so dont use them and stop whining
cloak is tactical weapon for scouts not for pirates not for attacking not for defending... ============================================ Colossus Technologies The first and oldest corp in eve! BadIronTree Head of Production
CSM Chat Log September 25, 2003: Fuhry> Some things we simply cannot test, and therefore we just put it on Tranq. cross our fingers and then get into panic mode. --------------------------------------- playing (or beta testing)since Sat, 2 Nov 2002 16:06 (beta 5) ---------------------------------------
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nails
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Posted - 2003.10.10 18:21:00 -
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are the cloaking devices on the chaos server yet? ------------------
http://ota-corps.otaku.jp -- Anime l33t level
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Jash Illian
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Posted - 2003.10.10 18:23:00 -
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Quote: if you use cloak and then attack you are stupid
cloaking is not for attacking
pirates will not use cloak... or one of them will in a friget
cloaking = defendless
so dont use them and stop whining
cloak is tactical weapon for scouts not for pirates not for attacking not for defending...
Which is why you'll die wondering "WTF just killed me?!?"
You built yourself a nice little box to think inside of.
I mean its like you want corporations to oblige each other like its sex or something. Pffft I would rather **** my enemy.- Rohann
Be careful out there. That other guy waiting in the queue for the gate MIGHT be a baby-munching frock-burner, YOU JUST DON'T KNOW!- Lallante |

CT BadIronTree
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Posted - 2003.10.10 18:26:00 -
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yes skill and modicle
you need lev 5 elektonic to test it.. ============================================ Colossus Technologies The first and oldest corp in eve! BadIronTree Head of Production
CSM Chat Log September 25, 2003: Fuhry> Some things we simply cannot test, and therefore we just put it on Tranq. cross our fingers and then get into panic mode. --------------------------------------- playing (or beta testing)since Sat, 2 Nov 2002 16:06 (beta 5) ---------------------------------------
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CT BadIronTree
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Posted - 2003.10.10 18:39:00 -
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Quote:
Quote: if you use cloak and then attack you are stupid
cloaking is not for attacking
pirates will not use cloak... or one of them will in a friget
cloaking = defendless
so dont use them and stop whining
cloak is tactical weapon for scouts not for pirates not for attacking not for defending...
Which is why you'll die wondering "WTF just killed me?!?"
You built yourself a nice little box to think inside of.
i can always warp away... or kill him 50% easyly or my frinds will :)
never go alone in 0.0 space :) ============================================ Colossus Technologies The first and oldest corp in eve! BadIronTree Head of Production
CSM Chat Log September 25, 2003: Fuhry> Some things we simply cannot test, and therefore we just put it on Tranq. cross our fingers and then get into panic mode. --------------------------------------- playing (or beta testing)since Sat, 2 Nov 2002 16:06 (beta 5) ---------------------------------------
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Drethen Nerevitas
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Posted - 2003.10.10 18:45:00 -
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People seem to be overlooking the point that there are armour boosters . _______________________________________________________________________
IMPORTANT: Devs (and players) please take notice. 1. 2. 3. 4. 5. 6. 7. |

j0sephine
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Posted - 2003.10.10 20:23:00 -
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"People seem to be overlooking the point that there are armour boosters ."
... Armour hardeners, armour repairers, energized armor, armour plates even... half of this stuff doesn't use cap or has frigate-sized fitting requirements, and they go in both middle and low slots... plus, there's modules to boost structure resistance too.. putting everything together, one could build a real tank with those....
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Jash Illian
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Posted - 2003.10.10 20:38:00 -
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Quote: "People seem to be overlooking the point that there are armour boosters ."
... Armour hardeners, armour repairers, energized armor, armour plates even... half of this stuff doesn't use cap or has frigate-sized fitting requirements, and they go in both middle and low slots... plus, there's modules to boost structure resistance too.. putting everything together, one could build a real tank with those....
I don't overlook them at all. That's why there are stacks of Fusion Large and Titanium Sabot Large ammo in my hold along. Toss in the kinetic and explosive cruise missiles for kicks.
In the end, the element of complete surprise that a cloaking device can grant is a powerful advantage. Another example?
All those gunho anti-pirate bounty hunters frothing for the ability to track a pirate and follow him into warp chasing poor defenseless Molly, all alone in a big lonely solar system, into a 21 Torpedo Salute   
I can see me having too much fun with cloaking.   
I mean its like you want corporations to oblige each other like its sex or something. Pffft I would rather **** my enemy.- Rohann
Be careful out there. That other guy waiting in the queue for the gate MIGHT be a baby-munching frock-burner, YOU JUST DON'T KNOW!- Lallante |

Drethen Nerevitas
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Posted - 2003.10.10 20:41:00 -
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The point is Jash that losing all your shields isn't really *that* bad. Shields aren't the be-all and end-all of combat.
*waits* *activates forum flame shields* _______________________________________________________________________
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j0sephine
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Posted - 2003.10.10 20:45:00 -
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"Another example?
All those gunho anti-pirate bounty hunters frothing for the ability to track a pirate and follow him into warp chasing poor defenseless Molly, all alone in a big lonely solar system, into a 21 Torpedo Salute   "
... Reminds The Encounter a wee lil' bit, just with the opposite outcome. ;s
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Jash Illian
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Posted - 2003.10.10 20:46:00 -
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Quote: The point is Jash that losing all your shields isn't really *that* bad. Shields aren't the be-all and end-all of combat.
*waits* *activates forum flame shields*
Ah...I already knew that. Think about what I said regarding the Scorpion and a cloaking device.
Who needs shields if the person such a tactic is used against is jammed before they can fire a return shot?
I mean its like you want corporations to oblige each other like its sex or something. Pffft I would rather **** my enemy.- Rohann
Be careful out there. That other guy waiting in the queue for the gate MIGHT be a baby-munching frock-burner, YOU JUST DON'T KNOW!- Lallante |

Drethen Nerevitas
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Posted - 2003.10.10 20:58:00 -
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Everyone else was debating how to get their shields back fast and preaching how shields were everything. I just pointed out an alternate way of increasing their max hp.
Besides,
Quote: I don't overlook them at all. That's why there are stacks of Fusion Large and Titanium Sabot Large ammo in my hold along. Toss in the kinetic and explosive cruise missiles for kicks
sounds a bit suspiciously like you're pointing out only the downside of armour improvements . As long as we're clear though...
...I'm now going to lobby for a Kestrel-sized cloaking device . _______________________________________________________________________
IMPORTANT: Devs (and players) please take notice. 1. 2. 3. 4. 5. 6. 7. |

j0sephine
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Posted - 2003.10.10 21:02:00 -
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Edited by: j0sephine on 10/10/2003 21:03:05
...I'm now going to lobby for a Kestrel-sized cloaking device .
... It already fits, just takes sizable part of CPU and ~1/3rd of the powergrid...
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Drethen Nerevitas
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Posted - 2003.10.10 21:04:00 -
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Edited by: Drethen Nerevitas on 10/10/2003 21:08:53 <insert M-12 launcher here>
Do I look like the sort of person who is overly concerned about trivial fitting details? I'm flying a Kestrel for crying out loud.
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IMPORTANT: Devs (and players) please take notice. 1. 2. 3. 4. 5. 6. 7. |

Keo Morigan
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Posted - 2003.10.10 22:17:00 -
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And now as armour repairers repair more then they use in cap, amarr will have a lot of fun with the cloaking. And then calculate all their lowslots (armour/hull upgrades) and say it's not unfavoring to caldari.
If your not a part of the solution, then you'r probably a part of the problem. |

Joshua Calvert
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Posted - 2003.10.10 23:06:00 -
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I think cloaking devices will bring about a whinefest of epic proportions.
LEEEEERRRRRRRRRRROOOOOOOOOYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY! |

var'ulfur
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Posted - 2003.10.10 23:34:00 -
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let me see i need a cloaking device for sure send me a ingame email if you got them . cloking is so cowarly and in the same breath so fun must be the klingon in me kapla
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Negotiator
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Posted - 2003.10.11 00:05:00 -
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last post made we want to go murder someone at a local Trek convention
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sphendar
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Posted - 2003.10.11 02:16:00 -
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Quote: Anyone think this? I think that these modules (mwd and cloak) are unbalanced towards caldari ships..
Caldari ships depend on sheilds.. you take out its sheilds, you can kiss it good bye..
These modules for example MWD take off 50% sheilds.. This is very very bad towards Caldari since they depend on sheilds. You take any other ship execpt maybe for minmatar, its a no prob penalty..
Now they got -100% sheilds with the cloaking modules, this is very unbalanced towards caldari since Caldari depends on sheilds and that pretty much just kills caldari shields, any caldari ship with this on will surely die in a heart beat. Now you take any other race ship that depend on armor/hull, **** this is a huge bonus for them..
Anyone else agree with me on this?
AM I THE ONLY ONE THAT SEES THE FACT THAT TANK IS WHINING? THE ONLY REASON YOUR WHINING IS CAUSE YOU WANT TO USE THESE THINGS TO HELP YOU PK EVERYSINGLE PERSON YOU CAN! WOT ARE YOU ****ED THAT YOU WONT BE ABLE TO USE YOUR SCORPIONS WITH ALL THOSE MED SLOTS ANYMORE? I THINK YOU WANT MWD TO BE BETTER BECAUSE THEN IT WILL BE EASIER FOR YOU TO GET AWAY IF SOMONE SCRAMBLES YOU! BET YOUR ALL ****ED ABOUT THAT! STOP YOUR WHINING PIRATE!
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Molly
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Posted - 2003.10.11 03:21:00 -
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Quote: All those gunho anti-pirate bounty hunters frothing for the ability to track a pirate and follow him into warp chasing poor defenseless Molly, all alone in a big lonely solar system, into a 21 Torpedo Salute   
I can see me having too much fun with cloaking.   
<bragging> Hahaha. I am semi retired now building up my assets (for Sally first). And believe me: At the point I choose to come back I will be dictating who is gonna die, like I did it before. </bragging>
Too bad I podded Mastema and have to stay away from him . -- Kasha > Mastema, face the reality: All the juicy dots are gone. -- |

nails
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Posted - 2003.10.11 04:20:00 -
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Quote: "People seem to be overlooking the point that there are armour boosters ."
... Armour hardeners, armour repairers, energized armor, armour plates even... half of this stuff doesn't use cap or has frigate-sized fitting requirements, and they go in both middle and low slots... plus, there's modules to boost structure resistance too.. putting everything together, one could build a real tank with those....
Not only that but Overdrives as well to help with the speed. The armageddon might end up being the best cloaked ship for speed, and the scorpion being the best cloaked ship for armor. ------------------
http://ota-corps.otaku.jp -- Anime l33t level
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Roba
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Posted - 2003.10.11 05:01:00 -
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Have any of you noticed sheilds don't really mean **** anymore with everyone and their sister using Lasers and sheild hardeners getting a bit of a nerf.
An apoc right now strips another b-ship of its sheilds in seconds. Its the struct and armor that gives every laser user problems.
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