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Tank CEO
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Posted - 2003.10.10 05:52:00 -
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Anyone think this? I think that these modules (mwd and cloak) are unbalanced towards caldari ships..
Caldari ships depend on sheilds.. you take out its sheilds, you can kiss it good bye..
These modules for example MWD take off 50% sheilds.. This is very very bad towards Caldari since they depend on sheilds. You take any other ship execpt maybe for minmatar, its a no prob penalty..
Now they got -100% sheilds with the cloaking modules, this is very unbalanced towards caldari since Caldari depends on sheilds and that pretty much just kills caldari shields, any caldari ship with this on will surely die in a heart beat. Now you take any other race ship that depend on armor/hull, **** this is a huge bonus for them..
Anyone else agree with me on this?
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Sally
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Posted - 2003.10.10 05:56:00 -
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I don't need shields on my Caldari ships with my setups.
Hence the MWD / cloaking with less shields is perfect for me  .
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Morkt Drakt
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Posted - 2003.10.10 06:21:00 -
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Stick enough shield boost amplifiers onto a caldari ship and kiss goodbye to any other ship in the galaxy catching it up in terms of regenerating shields.
Btw - you can buy them off us for 2.75 mil per 
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Zezman
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Posted - 2003.10.10 06:26:00 -
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I may have missed the memo, but when were Cloaking Devices introduced into the game?
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Sally
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Posted - 2003.10.10 06:27:00 -
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Stick enough shield boost amplifiers onto a caldari ship and kiss goodbye to any other ship in the galaxy catching it up in terms of regenerating shields.
Btw - you can buy them off us for 2.75 mil per
Hehehe. Most fighters I know use Capacitor Power Relays, quite the opposite of a shield boosting tool.
Morkt is your company selling 1-2 run BPc for a Scorpion?
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snaazex
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Posted - 2003.10.10 06:29:00 -
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Hold on a sec here....
Isn't -100% equal to zero shields? For all races? Doesn't matter if you have 10000000 shield points or what race you are, you still have zero shields after slapping on an MWD and a cloaker.
Also, 50% penalt for an MWD is the same for everyone, no matter what race - everyone looses half their shields.
I don't really get your point...
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Li ShangYin
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Posted - 2003.10.10 06:36:00 -
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yes, comparing how much shield you loose relatively leads to everyone loosing as much, but that's not reality, in actuality each race has different amounts of shields in relation to armor on their ships, with the caldari ships relying on their shield as the prime form of defense. So you could put up something like :
amarr : 150 armor, 50 shields,
caldari : 75 armor, 125 shields....
and caldari would always be at the lower end of the scale as shields are what they live with. Now assume you put an MWD or even that cloaking device onto the ships. With the MWD the caldari guy looses around double the shield amount, with the cloaking he'd drop down to less than half the armor and thus hitpoints from the similar amarr vessel. So if you want to run MWD or especially cloaking you'd be farked in a caldari ship, making the gain from said equipment minor since you are basically almost dead with it already. It's not something new either btw, I think most caldari pilots have been fighting off the MWD effect for ages, basically a highshield setup has always made more sense than the MWD for us, cloaking basically means learn to fly some new ships if you want to use it...
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Morkt Drakt
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Posted - 2003.10.10 06:41:00 -
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Stick enough shield boost amplifiers onto a caldari ship and kiss goodbye to any other ship in the galaxy catching it up in terms of regenerating shields.
Btw - you can buy them off us for 2.75 mil per
Hehehe. Most fighters I know use Capacitor Power Relays, quite the opposite of a shield boosting tool.
Morkt is your company selling 1-2 run BPc for a Scorpion?
Shield-Boost Amp is mid slot... as ive always said Shield-regen time is irrelevant if you have a shield booster, so killing shield regen for increased cap regen is a no-brainer.
I think Tanks point is that "all things being equal" a shield-reliant caldari ship has more shield to regenrate from zero (after de-cloaking) than any other ship - thus - is at a disadvantage.
My point is that as the shield-amp is mid slot (caldari advantage) you can use more amps (or shield boosters for which ya only need one amp to do all boosters) and thus the "disadvantage" is turned around.
[not atm re-scorps]
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Jash Illian
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Posted - 2003.10.10 06:59:00 -
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Hrm...I have to disagree. MWD should be a Raven's best friend. Who care if your shields are halved if
1) The only people with a chance of touching are Tachyon and 1400mm users because you're so far away it's a joke.
2) Orbiting at at ranging with a MWD active would likely play hell with tracking.
3) All those lovely launchers raining torps and cruise missile aren't affected by tracking at all.
And as far as a cloaking device goes...Well a Scorpion decloaking is one of those things that runs through my mind...and worries me. Especially with how long to recloak being unknown. Need an example?
1) Decloak
2) Lock
3) Jam
4) Ripple fire torps
5) Recloak
If the target can't lock you, they can't prevent you from recloaking. 2 - 3 Scorps playing Peek-A-Boo...Ugly.  
I mean its like you want corporations to oblige each other like its sex or something. Pffft I would rather **** my enemy.- Rohann
Be careful out there. That other guy waiting in the queue for the gate MIGHT be a baby-munching frock-burner, YOU JUST DON'T KNOW!- Lallante |
Sally
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Posted - 2003.10.10 07:00:00 -
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And as far as a cloaking device goes...Well a Scorpion decloaking is one of those things that runs through my mind...and worries me. Especially with how long to recloak being unknown. Need an example?
1) Decloak
2) Lock
3) Jam
4) Ripple fire torps
5) Recloak
If the target can't lock you, they can't prevent you from recloaking. 2 - 3 Scorps playing Peek-A-Boo...Ugly.
That got me moist :-). Jash, I need a date with you.
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Morkt Drakt
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Posted - 2003.10.10 07:15:00 -
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ew please 
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drunkenmaster
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Posted - 2003.10.10 07:24:00 -
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I dunno, Morkt. That idea gave me a semi.
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Morkt Drakt
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Posted - 2003.10.10 07:26:00 -
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ah man im eating breakfast!
(past tense - Dog is now eating breakfast)
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Soul Reaver
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Posted - 2003.10.10 07:33:00 -
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Got any decent ripple flavoured launchers for my scorp Morkt :) Ill take 4 please.
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Lola
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Posted - 2003.10.10 07:38:00 -
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I think we've found out more about SI members turn ons in this thread than anyone cared to know.
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j0sephine
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Posted - 2003.10.10 11:41:00 -
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"And as far as a cloaking device goes...Well a Scorpion decloaking is one of those things that runs through my mind...and worries me. Especially with how long to recloak being unknown. Need an example?
1) Decloak
2) Lock
3) Jam
4) Ripple fire torps
5) Recloak"
... Cloaking takes about 2-3 secs. And i think your locks break as soon as you engage it, so possibly a fast enemy gets a small window where they can lock on you and prevent you from recloaking.
One thing about the cloaking that comes to mind after little play with it.... unless there's some tweaking done to it, or the 'area de-cloak' module is made available, it's going to make the gate campers cry so bad it'll make instant bookmarks look like child's play.
a) put the cloaking module in the indy's only slot.
b) warp to gate, activate cloak while under post-warp immunity.
c) tiptoe to the gate at 10 m/s smack talking in local all the way to kill time.
d) once within jump range, decloak and jump.
Doing so makes one safe from any attack, except maybe large smartbombs. Because as of now, you have to get within 1 k of the cloaked ship to break the cloaking effect... and finding someone with the range/directional scanner with such precision to allow getting so close.. 'tis pretty much an exercise in futility.
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Indigo Seqi
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Posted - 2003.10.10 12:02:00 -
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Until now there's been a countermeasure for almost any offensive module in the game, so I guess cloaking will get one too.
Thing I'm wondering about tho: I thought that once you had a ship locked you would still keep the lock even if it cloaked itself?
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j0sephine
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Posted - 2003.10.10 12:08:00 -
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"Thing I'm wondering about tho: I thought that once you had a ship locked you would still keep the lock even if it cloaked itself?
IIRC when someone is locked on you, you simply cannot engage the cloak. o.O
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DREAMWORKS
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Posted - 2003.10.10 12:11:00 -
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Hrm...I have to disagree. MWD should be a Raven's best friend. Who care if your shields are halved if
1) The only people with a chance of touching are Tachyon and 1400mm users because you're so far away it's a joke.
2) Orbiting at at ranging with a MWD active would likely play hell with tracking.
3) All those lovely launchers raining torps and cruise missile aren't affected by tracking at all.
And as far as a cloaking device goes...Well a Scorpion decloaking is one of those things that runs through my mind...and worries me. Especially with how long to recloak being unknown. Need an example?
1) Decloak
2) Lock
3) Jam
4) Ripple fire torps
5) Recloak
If the target can't lock you, they can't prevent you from recloaking. 2 - 3 Scorps playing Peek-A-Boo...Ugly.
Why even recloack, the other guy is dead anyway...
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Sally
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Posted - 2003.10.10 12:16:00 -
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One thing about the cloaking that comes to mind after little play with it.... unless there's some tweaking done to it, or the 'area de-cloak' module is made available, it's going to make the gate campers cry so bad it'll make instant bookmarks look like child's play.
Well, cloaking devices are likely to become a tool for campers too :-). Stay cloaked near a gate and decide what targets to pick and what not, e.g. camp with a cheap BB to pick on indies only :-).
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dalman
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Posted - 2003.10.10 12:18:00 -
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Well, very simple, the big penalty on cap means that Cloak devices are best suited for: RAVEN, TEMPEST and TYPHOON.
I wouldn't worry about a sincle Scorpion, since it would not have enough cap to use EW for very long. Neither would I worry about any Amarr/Gallente ship.
But to have a Raven(6 missiles/2 projectile turrets) or Tempest(2/6 or 4/4) uncloak and be able to deal huge amount of damage without worrying about it's small cap...
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Sally
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Posted - 2003.10.10 12:21:00 -
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Well, very simple, the big penalty on cap means that Cloak devices are best suited for: RAVEN, TEMPEST and TYPHOON.
I wouldn't worry about a sincle Scorpion, since it would not have enough cap to use EW for very long. Neither would I worry about any Amarr/Gallente ship.
But to have a Raven(6 missiles/2 projectile turrets) or Tempest(2/6 or 4/4) uncloak and be able to deal huge amount of damage without worrying about it's small cap...
I think the Scorpion is able to recover from low cap very fast since it has 8 middle slots.
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j0sephine
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Posted - 2003.10.10 12:22:00 -
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"Well, cloaking devices are likely to become a tool for campers too :-). Stay cloaked near a gate and decide what targets to pick and what not, e.g. camp with a cheap BB to pick on indies only :-)."
... I dunno if it will help the campers much, though... you can cloak the ship and your presence, sure... but can you cloak that huge green dot on the map in the spot where you are? ;s
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Captin Zed
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Posted - 2003.10.10 12:23:00 -
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Just wondering but does anybody know if the modules will stack like the shield hardeners?
You are not able to get 100% resistence to damage so mabey it works the other way too, never get 0% shield.
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Sally
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Posted - 2003.10.10 12:23:00 -
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"Well, cloaking devices are likely to become a tool for campers too :-). Stay cloaked near a gate and decide what targets to pick and what not, e.g. camp with a cheap BB to pick on indies only :-)."
... I dunno if it will help the campers much, though... you can cloak the ship and your presence, sure... but can you cloak that huge green dot on the map in the spot where you are? ;s
Hehe. We will be able to move around and spread the green points among a few solar systems.
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Gan Howorth
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Posted - 2003.10.10 12:24:00 -
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Well even if cloaking doesnt remove the radar print, it will still be a big edge for camping. Remember all the grid exploit skirmishes, couldnt see them, but they were still showing on radar...didnt stop people walking right into it.
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Jash Illian
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Posted - 2003.10.10 14:27:00 -
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Why even recloack, the other guy is dead anyway...
Your ship can't take 6 torp hits? Oooooh...you must fly one of those industrial thingies into war zones
I mean its like you want corporations to oblige each other like its sex or something. Pffft I would rather **** my enemy.- Rohann
Be careful out there. That other guy waiting in the queue for the gate MIGHT be a baby-munching frock-burner, YOU JUST DON'T KNOW!- Lallante |
Jash Illian
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Posted - 2003.10.10 14:32:00 -
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... Cloaking takes about 2-3 secs. And i think your locks break as soon as you engage it, so possibly a fast enemy gets a small window where they can lock on you and prevent you from recloaking.
"Fast" is not a word I associate with most people when it comes down to targetting. In fact, it seem the pirates are the only ones that have heard of a skill called signature analysis
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One thing about the cloaking that comes to mind after little play with it.... unless there's some tweaking done to it, or the 'area de-cloak' module is made available, it's going to make the gate campers cry so bad it'll make instant bookmarks look like child's play.
a) put the cloaking module in the indy's only slot.
b) warp to gate, activate cloak while under post-warp immunity.
c) tiptoe to the gate at 10 m/s smack talking in local all the way to kill time.
d) once within jump range, decloak and jump.
Doing so makes one safe from any attack, except maybe large smartbombs. Because as of now, you have to get within 1 k of the cloaked ship to break the cloaking effect... and finding someone with the range/directional scanner with such precision to allow getting so close.. 'tis pretty much an exercise in futility.
My god...Mines may have a use all of a sudden
I mean its like you want corporations to oblige each other like its sex or something. Pffft I would rather **** my enemy.- Rohann
Be careful out there. That other guy waiting in the queue for the gate MIGHT be a baby-munching frock-burner, YOU JUST DON'T KNOW!- Lallante |
Cmd Sisko
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Posted - 2003.10.10 14:41:00 -
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heh. eve is now going into the startrek thing.
*they stole the clocking device of the romulans!* next thing u will see is romulan warbirds flying around looking for cloaked ships.
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Koda
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Posted - 2003.10.10 15:35:00 -
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I missed the memo on cloaks too.
CCP handing out Tech stuff again?
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Sarkos
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Posted - 2003.10.10 15:38:00 -
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Many of the Caldari ships have the most number of Mid slots in the game, so add 2 or 3 LiF's.
Either free the slaves or we will come and get them.
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j0sephine
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Posted - 2003.10.10 16:24:00 -
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""Fast" is not a word I associate with most people when it comes down to targetting. In fact, it seem the pirates are the only ones that have heard of a skill called signature analysis "
... *tries to hide the character sheet behind back and kick the sensor booster out of the Griffin at the same time* o.o;;;
"My god...Mines may have a use all of a sudden "
... LAGSPLOITOMFGBANTTiBBQ :o!
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Raucus
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Posted - 2003.10.10 17:11:00 -
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Anyone think this? I think that these modules (mwd and cloak) are unbalanced towards caldari ships..
Caldari ships depend on sheilds.. you take out its sheilds, you can kiss it good bye..
These modules for example MWD take off 50% sheilds.. This is very very bad towards Caldari since they depend on sheilds. You take any other ship execpt maybe for minmatar, its a no prob penalty..
Now they got -100% sheilds with the cloaking modules, this is very unbalanced towards caldari since Caldari depends on sheilds and that pretty much just kills caldari shields, any caldari ship with this on will surely die in a heart beat. Now you take any other race ship that depend on armor/hull, **** this is a huge bonus for them..
Anyone else agree with me on this?
Shut up carebear....go pod yourself n00b....
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CT BadIronTree
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Posted - 2003.10.10 18:17:00 -
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if you use cloak and then attack you are stupid
cloaking is not for attacking
pirates will not use cloak... or one of them will in a friget
cloaking = defendless
so dont use them and stop whining
cloak is tactical weapon for scouts
not for pirates not for attacking not for defending...
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nails
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Posted - 2003.10.10 18:21:00 -
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are the cloaking devices on the chaos server yet?
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Jash Illian
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Posted - 2003.10.10 18:23:00 -
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if you use cloak and then attack you are stupid
cloaking is not for attacking
pirates will not use cloak... or one of them will in a friget
cloaking = defendless
so dont use them and stop whining
cloak is tactical weapon for scouts
not for pirates not for attacking not for defending...
Which is why you'll die wondering "WTF just killed me?!?"
You built yourself a nice little box to think inside of.
I mean its like you want corporations to oblige each other like its sex or something. Pffft I would rather **** my enemy.- Rohann
Be careful out there. That other guy waiting in the queue for the gate MIGHT be a baby-munching frock-burner, YOU JUST DON'T KNOW!- Lallante |
CT BadIronTree
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Posted - 2003.10.10 18:26:00 -
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yes
skill and modicle
you need lev 5 elektonic to test it..
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Colossus Technologies
The first and oldest corp in eve!
BadIronTree Head of Production
CSM Chat Log September 25, 2003:
Fuhry> Some things we simply cannot test, and therefore we just put it on Tranq. cross our fingers and then get into panic mode.
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CT BadIronTree
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Posted - 2003.10.10 18:39:00 -
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Quote:
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if you use cloak and then attack you are stupid
cloaking is not for attacking
pirates will not use cloak... or one of them will in a friget
cloaking = defendless
so dont use them and stop whining
cloak is tactical weapon for scouts
not for pirates not for attacking not for defending...
Which is why you'll die wondering "WTF just killed me?!?"
You built yourself a nice little box to think inside of.
i can always warp away... or kill him 50% easyly or my frinds will :)
never go alone in 0.0 space :)
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Colossus Technologies
The first and oldest corp in eve!
BadIronTree Head of Production
CSM Chat Log September 25, 2003:
Fuhry> Some things we simply cannot test, and therefore we just put it on Tranq. cross our fingers and then get into panic mode.
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Drethen Nerevitas
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Posted - 2003.10.10 18:45:00 -
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People seem to be overlooking the point that there are armour boosters  .
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j0sephine
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Posted - 2003.10.10 20:23:00 -
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"People seem to be overlooking the point that there are armour boosters ."
... Armour hardeners, armour repairers, energized armor, armour plates even... half of this stuff doesn't use cap or has frigate-sized fitting requirements, and they go in both middle and low slots... plus, there's modules to boost structure resistance too.. putting everything together, one could build a real tank with those....
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Jash Illian
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Posted - 2003.10.10 20:38:00 -
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"People seem to be overlooking the point that there are armour boosters ."
... Armour hardeners, armour repairers, energized armor, armour plates even... half of this stuff doesn't use cap or has frigate-sized fitting requirements, and they go in both middle and low slots... plus, there's modules to boost structure resistance too.. putting everything together, one could build a real tank with those....
I don't overlook them at all. That's why there are stacks of Fusion Large and Titanium Sabot Large ammo in my hold along. Toss in the kinetic and explosive cruise missiles for kicks.
In the end, the element of complete surprise that a cloaking device can grant is a powerful advantage. Another example?
All those gunho anti-pirate bounty hunters frothing for the ability to track a pirate and follow him into warp chasing poor defenseless Molly, all alone in a big lonely solar system, into a 21 Torpedo Salute
I can see me having too much fun with cloaking. 
I mean its like you want corporations to oblige each other like its sex or something. Pffft I would rather **** my enemy.- Rohann
Be careful out there. That other guy waiting in the queue for the gate MIGHT be a baby-munching frock-burner, YOU JUST DON'T KNOW!- Lallante |
Drethen Nerevitas
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Posted - 2003.10.10 20:41:00 -
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The point is Jash that losing all your shields isn't really *that* bad. Shields aren't the be-all and end-all of combat.
*waits*
*activates forum flame shields*
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j0sephine
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Posted - 2003.10.10 20:45:00 -
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"Another example?
All those gunho anti-pirate bounty hunters frothing for the ability to track a pirate and follow him into warp chasing poor defenseless Molly, all alone in a big lonely solar system, into a 21 Torpedo Salute "
... Reminds The Encounter a wee lil' bit, just with the opposite outcome. ;s
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Jash Illian
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Posted - 2003.10.10 20:46:00 -
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The point is Jash that losing all your shields isn't really *that* bad. Shields aren't the be-all and end-all of combat.
*waits*
*activates forum flame shields*
Ah...I already knew that. Think about what I said regarding the Scorpion and a cloaking device.
Who needs shields if the person such a tactic is used against is jammed before they can fire a return shot?
I mean its like you want corporations to oblige each other like its sex or something. Pffft I would rather **** my enemy.- Rohann
Be careful out there. That other guy waiting in the queue for the gate MIGHT be a baby-munching frock-burner, YOU JUST DON'T KNOW!- Lallante |
Drethen Nerevitas
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Posted - 2003.10.10 20:58:00 -
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Everyone else was debating how to get their shields back fast and preaching how shields were everything. I just pointed out an alternate way of increasing their max hp.
Besides,
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I don't overlook them at all. That's why there are stacks of Fusion Large and Titanium Sabot Large ammo in my hold along. Toss in the kinetic and explosive cruise missiles for kicks
sounds a bit suspiciously like you're pointing out only the downside of armour improvements  .
As long as we're clear though...
...I'm now going to lobby for a Kestrel-sized cloaking device  .
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j0sephine
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Posted - 2003.10.10 21:02:00 -
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Edited by: j0sephine on 10/10/2003 21:03:05
...I'm now going to lobby for a Kestrel-sized cloaking device .
... It already fits, just takes sizable part of CPU and ~1/3rd of the powergrid...
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Drethen Nerevitas
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Posted - 2003.10.10 21:04:00 -
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Edited by: Drethen Nerevitas on 10/10/2003 21:08:53
<insert M-12 launcher here>
Do I look like the sort of person who is overly concerned about trivial fitting details?
I'm flying a Kestrel for crying out loud.
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Keo Morigan
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Posted - 2003.10.10 22:17:00 -
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And now as armour repairers repair more then they use in cap, amarr will have a lot of fun with the cloaking. And then calculate all their lowslots (armour/hull upgrades) and say it's not unfavoring to caldari.
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Joshua Calvert
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Posted - 2003.10.10 23:06:00 -
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I think cloaking devices will bring about a whinefest of epic proportions.
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var'ulfur
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Posted - 2003.10.10 23:34:00 -
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let me see i need a cloaking device for sure send me a ingame email if you got them . cloking is so cowarly and in the same breath so fun must be the klingon in me kapla
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Negotiator
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Posted - 2003.10.11 00:05:00 -
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last post made we want to go murder someone at a local Trek convention
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sphendar
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Posted - 2003.10.11 02:16:00 -
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Anyone think this? I think that these modules (mwd and cloak) are unbalanced towards caldari ships..
Caldari ships depend on sheilds.. you take out its sheilds, you can kiss it good bye..
These modules for example MWD take off 50% sheilds.. This is very very bad towards Caldari since they depend on sheilds. You take any other ship execpt maybe for minmatar, its a no prob penalty..
Now they got -100% sheilds with the cloaking modules, this is very unbalanced towards caldari since Caldari depends on sheilds and that pretty much just kills caldari shields, any caldari ship with this on will surely die in a heart beat. Now you take any other race ship that depend on armor/hull, **** this is a huge bonus for them..
Anyone else agree with me on this?
AM I THE ONLY ONE THAT SEES THE FACT THAT TANK IS WHINING? THE ONLY REASON YOUR WHINING IS CAUSE YOU WANT TO USE THESE THINGS TO HELP YOU PK EVERYSINGLE PERSON YOU CAN! WOT ARE YOU ****ED THAT YOU WONT BE ABLE TO USE YOUR SCORPIONS WITH ALL THOSE MED SLOTS ANYMORE? I THINK YOU WANT MWD TO BE BETTER BECAUSE THEN IT WILL BE EASIER FOR YOU TO GET AWAY IF SOMONE SCRAMBLES YOU! BET YOUR ALL ****ED ABOUT THAT! STOP YOUR WHINING PIRATE!
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Molly
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Posted - 2003.10.11 03:21:00 -
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All those gunho anti-pirate bounty hunters frothing for the ability to track a pirate and follow him into warp chasing poor defenseless Molly, all alone in a big lonely solar system, into a 21 Torpedo Salute
I can see me having too much fun with cloaking.
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Hahaha. I am semi retired now building up my assets (for Sally first). And believe me: At the point I choose to come back I will be dictating who is gonna die, like I did it before.
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Too bad I podded Mastema and have to stay away from him .
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Kasha > Mastema, face the reality: All the juicy dots are gone.
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nails
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Posted - 2003.10.11 04:20:00 -
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"People seem to be overlooking the point that there are armour boosters ."
... Armour hardeners, armour repairers, energized armor, armour plates even... half of this stuff doesn't use cap or has frigate-sized fitting requirements, and they go in both middle and low slots... plus, there's modules to boost structure resistance too.. putting everything together, one could build a real tank with those....
Not only that but Overdrives as well to help with the speed. The armageddon might end up being the best cloaked ship for speed, and the scorpion being the best cloaked ship for armor.
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Roba
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Posted - 2003.10.11 05:01:00 -
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Have any of you noticed sheilds don't really mean **** anymore with everyone and their sister using Lasers and sheild hardeners getting a bit of a nerf.
An apoc right now strips another b-ship of its sheilds in seconds. Its the struct and armor that gives every laser user problems.
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