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CCP Punkturis
C C P C C P Alliance
5390
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Posted - 2014.10.09 10:59:00 -
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Hi,
Team Banana Stand has been working on a Multi Sell feature that we want to have you try out.
Work on that feature is still in progress and the UI is very unpolished but we wanted to let you guys play around with it. Feedback is very welcome in this thread.
You will be able to try it out after Sisi is updated. Gÿà EVE User Interface Programmer Gÿà GÖÑ Team Super Friends GÖÑ @CCP_Punkturis |
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Zappity
SUPREME MATHEMATICS A Band Apart.
1430
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Posted - 2014.10.09 11:08:00 -
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Multi-sell? As in selling multiple items at once to highest buy orders? Zappity's Adventures for a taste of lowsec. |
Amak Boma
Dragon Factory
29
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Posted - 2014.10.09 11:10:00 -
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exacly that. now we want new mirror so we can test out that more accurate since buy orders on sisi are well depleted, we need practice somewhere this so mirror could be handy |
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CCP Goliath
C C P C C P Alliance
2495
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Posted - 2014.10.09 11:14:00 -
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Amak Boma wrote:exacly that. now we want new mirror so we can test out that more accurate since buy orders on sisi are well depleted, we need practice somewhere this so mirror could be handy
Well you might be pretty happy when Sisi comes back online then... CCP Goliath | QA Director | EVE Illuminati | @CCP_Goliath |
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Darkblad
Hilfe is like free Entertainment
556
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Posted - 2014.10.09 11:15:00 -
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Amak Boma wrote:exacly that. now we want new mirror so we can test out that more accurate since buy orders on sisi are well depleted, we need practice somewhere this so mirror could be handy CCP Habakuk didn't want to make no promises, but he's optimistic that there'll be a new mirror today. Let's just hope that his fortune teller skills are better than last time EVE Infolinks -+-áOld and new-áPortraits |
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CCP Punkturis
C C P C C P Alliance
5392
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Posted - 2014.10.09 14:33:00 -
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it won't work for characters without the appropriate corp roles but that'll be fix with next patch :) Gÿà EVE User Interface Programmer Gÿà GÖÑ Team Super Friends GÖÑ @CCP_Punkturis |
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Noah Swan
Valkyries of Night Of Sound Mind
0
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Posted - 2014.10.09 14:58:00 -
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Will a "buy all listed items" be added to the fitting window in the future as well? One would assume that if you can sell everything to highest buy order, would it also be possible to buy a list of items from lowest sell order. |
Cryten Jones
C5 Flight The Serenity Initiative
115
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Posted - 2014.10.09 15:30:00 -
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Noah Swan wrote:Will a "buy all listed items" be added to the fitting window in the future as well? One would assume that if you can sell everything to highest buy order, would it also be possible to buy a list of items from lowest sell order.
fantastic idea! |
Soldarius
Deadman W0nderland Test Alliance Please Ignore
822
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Posted - 2014.10.09 16:20:00 -
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If'n you lack isk to make buy orders, just buy a large ship, insure it, and detonate. Repeat as required. Insurance fraud ftw. GÇ£I personally refuse to help AAA take space from itself so it can become an even shittier version of itselfGÇ¥ -Grath Telkin, 2014.
Free PASTA! |
Max Kolonko
High Voltage Industries Ash Alliance
458
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Posted - 2014.10.09 16:24:00 -
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CCP Punkturis wrote:Hi,
Team Banana Stand has been working on a Multi Sell feature that we want to have you try out.
Work on that feature is still in progress and the UI is very unpolished but we wanted to let you guys play around with it. Feedback is very welcome in this thread.
You will be able to try it out after Sisi is updated.
You are a GOD... just saying.
Why didnt you implemented that month ago when i was liquidating thousands of stacks of items :( Read and support: Don't mess with OUR WH's What is Your stance on WH stuff? |
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ShadowandLight
Black Aces Against ALL Authorities
280
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Posted - 2014.10.09 16:34:00 -
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TY for this awesome feature!!
I was hoping that one day we could have a feature to buy all the mods on a ship fitting at the lowest price
perhaps a popup that would say "this will cost a total of x million, is that ok?"
What do you think??? http://eveservers.info/index.php?topic=123.msg126#new A fully functional Server platform dedicated to your Corp / Alliances IT needs!
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TheMercenaryKing
StarFleet Enterprises Intrepid Crossing
290
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Posted - 2014.10.09 16:39:00 -
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{troll}
Great, one more step towards WoW. What is this tool like? a box the pops up and you drag the items you want to sell into it? then let me guess, it gives a quote with the taxes and everything included.
Thanks for taking the skill away from eve
{/Troll} |
Aquila Sagitta
Blue-Fire
513
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Posted - 2014.10.09 16:46:00 -
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Forum ate my like button I'd give this +1000 if i could! Blue-Fire Best Fire |
Soldarius
Deadman W0nderland Test Alliance Please Ignore
822
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Posted - 2014.10.09 16:54:00 -
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This feature is good for everyone. Need to liquidate a hanger? Multi-sell. Get ca$h fast!
Marketeers taking advantage of firesales or the seedy pawn shop broker will get orders filled fast and for less. Less playing with features one doesn't care about and more isk movement. GÇ£I personally refuse to help AAA take space from itself so it can become an even shittier version of itselfGÇ¥ -Grath Telkin, 2014.
Free PASTA! |
Bagrat Skalski
Poseidaon
3993
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Posted - 2014.10.09 17:25:00 -
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You would not want all this stuff in your hangar anyway. Ideas to boost fun factor in Planetary Interaction. |
Aurelius Valentius
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
376
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Posted - 2014.10.09 18:20:00 -
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Will give it a try today - it would be a nice add if we could with this also get:
Icon Drag and Drop to open windows? - say select all, or select items then drag and drop and open sell, as well as say drag sell order to hangar and open buy window? - would be very handy. I will even give that a vaunted +1 if it's done. Look at all the Macks in local...impressive...very impressive...I see you have fashioned a new exhumer...much like you father's...your skills as a miner are now complete...indeed you are powerful as CCP Devs have foreseen. |
Destitute Tehol Beddict
Trygalle Trade Guild Letherii Div
34
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Posted - 2014.10.09 18:37:00 -
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Okay will do some testing
-First Are the brokerfees/sales tax supposed to be different from regular market interface
http://i.imgur.com/kno2gU5.png
- Second by default immediate duration should have no broker fees (again is this intentional)?
-The Cancel button does not work
-When the sale goes through the correct market mechanics are at play...So the quote is wrong?
- Typing in prices is a bit odd (the blinky thing does not follow the number) Loot Buying service:-áhttps://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=4529397#post4529397 |
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CCP Punkturis
C C P C C P Alliance
5400
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Posted - 2014.10.09 22:41:00 -
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Destitute Tehol Beddict wrote:Okay will do some testing -First Are the brokerfees/sales tax supposed to be different from regular market interface http://i.imgur.com/kno2gU5.png- Second by default immediate duration should have no broker fees (again is this intentional)? -The Cancel button does not work -When the sale goes through the correct market mechanics are at play...So the quote is wrong? - Typing in prices is a bit odd (the blinky thing does not follow the number) (very specific I know :p) Edit stuff: - Testing multisell on 902 items... interface loads slowly (though its fun seeing the total load up) 902 items took ~1MIN - Closing the 902 item sell window stalled the client for a few seconds.
thank you for all these wonderful points, will take a better look at them tomorrow Gÿà EVE User Interface Programmer Gÿà GÖÑ Team Super Friends GÖÑ @CCP_Punkturis |
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Salpun
Global Telstar Federation Offices Nerfed Alliance Go Away
778
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Posted - 2014.10.10 03:48:00 -
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What does the orange shading represent? How do I remove items? The click icon to see in market is not intuitive. What icon? Got ti to work but it did not flow.
If i dont know something about EVE. I check https://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/ISK_The_Guide
See you around the universe. |
Tragot Gomndor
Three Sword Inc
60
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Posted - 2014.10.10 08:46:00 -
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BEST FEATURE EVER... i already stoped looting cuz of the cooldown every 20 items when i sell it... now i will happily loot again ^^ NONONONONONO TO CAPS IN HIGHSEC NO |
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Xercodo
Vector Galactic The Big Dirty
3797
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Posted - 2014.10.10 17:21:00 -
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Yeah can you guys use a separate thread when loading market data? Regardless of multiselling or not the way the market itself and the setting up of orders freezes the client has bugged me forever.
I don't mind it taking time, but freezing the client is bad D: Get it to be asynchronous. The Drake is a Lie |
Sukan Kawabata
Belka's Whooy Limited
1
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Posted - 2014.10.10 18:10:00 -
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I think it's a killer feature for market enthusiasts like myself. The only thing that is lacking at the moment in my opinion is 'Add to Market Quickbar' option in the popup menu for items in the list.
Many people use quickbar to monitor their sell orders, so if we're creating multiple sell order at once, it would be reasonable to have the possibility to swiftly build the quickbar as well. |
Alenn G'kar
Black VooDoo Asassins The Kadeshi
12
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Posted - 2014.10.10 18:19:00 -
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Sukan Kawabata wrote:I think it's a killer feature for market enthusiasts like myself. The only thing that is lacking at the moment in my opinion is 'Add to Market Quickbar' option in the popup menu for items in the list.
Many people use quickbar to monitor their sell orders, so if we're creating multiple sell order at once, it would be reasonable to have the possibility to swiftly build the quickbar as well.
I agree there is always someone lazy who dont want to sell items one by one so they rather sell it to me and I do it in great numbers.
So If there will be this possibility I hope you will rise tax for this feature =) you know someone must do this work in station me or NPC doesnt matter, but he must be payed :P |
Avid
Retta Via
1
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Posted - 2014.10.10 20:27:00 -
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Hi,
First, excellent feature, thankyou.
Currently, a warning box displays when selling an item below 'x%' of the market average. This warning serves to give the seller the opportunity to assess whether to continue with the transaction, keep the item or decide to reprocess it instead. Personally, I tend to reprocess in these situations instead of giving the item away.
Is it possible to include an additional option on the 'sell all' feature whereby if an item is being sold 'x%' below market average it is either; - left out of the 'sell all' list (remains in the hanger after the transaction), or, - after the 'sell all' transaction, the reprocess window opens being populated with all the 'below x%' items.
P.S. I also whole-heartedly support the suggestion to have a 'buy all' option linked to a characters' saved fit-outs (as long as it was limited to the current station, i.e., avoid multiple jumps for multiple items).
Regards, A
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Vulxanis Viceroy
Offworld Trading Company Ethical Carnage
156
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Posted - 2014.10.10 20:35:00 -
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Are you serious? Just... Are you serious? I cannot express how amazing this is!!!! Please put this in TQ asap!!! :DDDD Fide et honore.
(IC note: Vulxanis only responds to "Lord Draconis".) |
Vulxanis Viceroy
Offworld Trading Company Ethical Carnage
156
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Posted - 2014.10.10 20:37:00 -
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Avid wrote:Hi,
First, excellent feature, thankyou.
Currently, a warning box displays when selling an item below 'x%' of the market average. This warning serves to give the seller the opportunity to assess whether to continue with the transaction, keep the item or decide to reprocess it instead. Personally, I tend to reprocess in these situations instead of giving the item away.
Is it possible to include an additional option on the 'sell all' feature whereby if an item is being sold 'x%' below market average it is either; - left out of the 'sell all' list (remains in the hanger after the transaction), or, - after the 'sell all' transaction, the reprocess window opens being populated with all the 'below x%' items.
P.S. I also whole-heartedly support the suggestion to have a 'buy all' option linked to a characters' saved fit-outs (as long as it was limited to the current station, i.e., avoid multiple jumps for multiple items).
Regards, A
Yes, I think this idea about keeping the warning would be completely necessary. A sell all list would likely keep that in check.
A Buy all for fittings would be amazing as well. Fide et honore.
(IC note: Vulxanis only responds to "Lord Draconis".) |
Iam Widdershins
Spidercakes Baked Goods and Industriel Servises
874
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Posted - 2014.10.10 20:43:00 -
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This is great, cool feature. More than any other game I have ever played, EVE seems to be about collecting fantastic quantities of Stuff. Always good to see more features that reflect that.
What I would most like to see:
* Per-item warnings for over/under market averages, preferably with a tooltip that reflects the difference from expected sale value (for underrun) or total fees/taxes for listing this item (for overrun). Occasional mistakes with these are the things that can really cost a marketeer in the long run. It may have been only once that I listed 200,000 Void L at 350k isk apiece, but the broker fee for that listing cost me well over a day's profits.
* An easily accessible 'view market details' button for each item. Nobody can reliably hit a target they cannot see, and on the market the enemy is in the regional market window.
* Please make sure that the mouse scroll wheel works in these boxes!
Thanks for the great work as always :) Lobbying for your right to delete your signature |
Vulxanis Viceroy
Offworld Trading Company Ethical Carnage
156
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Posted - 2014.10.10 20:45:00 -
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Iam Widdershins wrote:This is great, cool feature. More than any other game I have ever played, EVE seems to be about collecting fantastic quantities of Stuff. Always good to see more features that reflect that.
What I would most like to see:
* Per-item warnings for over/under market averages, preferably with a tooltip that reflects the difference from expected sale value (for underrun) or total fees/taxes for listing this item (for overrun). Occasional mistakes with these are the things that can really cost a marketeer in the long run. It may have been only once that I listed 200,000 Void L at 350k isk apiece, but the broker fee for that listing cost me well over a day's profits.
* An easily accessible 'view market details' button for each item. Nobody can reliably hit a target they cannot see, and on the market the enemy is in the regional market window.
* Please make sure that the mouse scroll wheel works in these boxes!
Thanks for the great work as always :)
+1 Fide et honore.
(IC note: Vulxanis only responds to "Lord Draconis".) |
Iomi Alabosa
Dead Star Syndicate
4
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Posted - 2014.10.10 20:51:00 -
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This is some of the best news I've seen in a long time. However I don't do test servers -- could you please post images of the UI you have planned so the design can be reviewed? Thanks. For what it's worth, my main priorities in this area ares:
1. Single-action access to a window to sell all items at once with modifications (you seem to have that handled) 2. Columns indicating the standard info for the item in the current market -- average buy/sell prices, etc. 3. Checkbox or other UI item to remove or re-add individual items from the mass sell order
So basically a good workflow would be:
A) Click to activate market -- opens window populated with all items in current hangars (items and ships). Default all items to be sold (checkbox active)
B) Options to remove items from sale (uncheck box), adjust number of each item to be sold (numeric entry box/widget), change sell or buy price (thereby switching from instant sales to "ask" sell orders).
C) Sell button with "are you sure" alert which can be dismissed for future.
Ideally this should create an end product where selling any set of items can be accomplished in two clicks -- activate sell window, confirm sale.
Muchos gracias |
Iam Widdershins
Spidercakes Baked Goods and Industriel Servises
874
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Posted - 2014.10.10 21:13:00 -
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Iomi Alabosa wrote:This is some of the best news I've seen in a long time. However I don't do test servers -- could you please post images of the UI you have planned so the design can be reviewed? Thanks. For what it's worth, my main priorities in this area ares:
1. Single-action access to a window to sell all items at once with modifications (you seem to have that handled) 2. Columns indicating the standard info for the item in the current market -- average buy/sell prices, etc. 3. Checkbox or other UI item to remove or re-add individual items from the mass sell order
So basically a good workflow would be:
A) Click to activate market -- opens window populated with all items in current hangars (items and ships). Default all items to be sold (checkbox active)
B) Options to remove items from sale (uncheck box), adjust number of each item to be sold (numeric entry box/widget), change sell or buy price (thereby switching from instant sales to "ask" sell orders).
C) Sell button with "are you sure" alert which can be dismissed for future.
Ideally this should create an end product where selling any set of items can be accomplished in two clicks -- activate sell window, confirm sale.
Muchos gracias
These are pretty strong suggestions for the casual seller of acquired goods. I think the main thing most of us are hoping for is More Stuff: don't be afraid of making every item take up two or three times as much vertical space on the form as it does right now; we'll have to scroll through them anyway. Buttons to remove an item from the sale, current market average, etc.
Speaking of scrolling, I may have been a tad too hasty. It's important to me to be able to use the scroll wheel to change prices a few cents, but how well this works is going to be a make-or-break aspect of the feature.
What about: A scroll wheel icon on the right hand side of the number box (like the one for IME typing or the caps lock warning for password entry) that shows that, since you've clicked on this number entry box, mouse scrolls in the window will be captured amd used on the number instead of scrolling the whole thing wildly up and down.
The scroll wheel feature is a basic, major essential for people who use the market frequently; I can't really overstate this. I would much rather be forced to drag the little scroll bar in the window to page up and down than be unable to bump prices up or down a penny by typing "999999.99" every time.
And if there's a good way to allow both, and make it doable and non-frustrating for everyone, that's when you're likely to see a real uptick in usage. Lobbying for your right to delete your signature |
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