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Soldarius
Deadman W0nderland Test Alliance Please Ignore
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Posted - 2014.10.09 19:05:00 -
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I wasn't even aware this was a thing. I've never actually seen it done.
Don't both the dictor and the ships in question have to have docking rights? And as such, isn't this then only applicable to NPC nulsec?
Not saying it shouldn't be done. Just getting up to speed on the tactic. GÇ£I personally refuse to help AAA take space from itself so it can become an even shittier version of itselfGÇ¥ -Grath Telkin, 2014.
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Cheeb Aman
Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2014.10.09 19:08:00 -
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this is a good change I like it.
Now how about making the ship that uses the interdictor bubble immune to the actual bubble itself. Cause I'm pretty sure if I had made a ship like the interceptor that can ignore bubbles I would have developed the technology to work on the ship that actually drops the bloody things. |
Phoenix Jones
Isogen 5
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Posted - 2014.10.09 19:09:00 -
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CCP Fozzie wrote:Centra Spike wrote:Couldn't you just have 2 or 3 dictors juggling bubbles before they are locked? Considering that the bubbles will expire instantly when the dictors dock, this would only be viable if there are no fast locking ships around. We'll keep an eye on how this develops in practice of course.
Couldn't you have just done a weapons timer?(so they can't dock back up, because they can't warp away) Yaay!!!! |
Ammzi
Love Squad Pasta Syndicate
1836
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Posted - 2014.10.09 19:09:00 -
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Overlord Invictus wrote:err Fozzie, do you play eve online at all? how is this apparent 'fix' in any way playing to the sandbox when a single bomb launched at the bubble resolves the problem of hobo jamming entirely and promotes teamplay?
also if this hobo jamming fix is straightforward and logical, then bubbles should self destruct on gates if interdictors jump through them, or if they log or disconnect in a fight.
plus logic dictates that if any ship should be bubble immune it should be the combat ships that have to deal with bubbles and being bubbled as a combat tool. eg: make interdictors and HIC's bubble immune. but i guess you're too jaded for that to occur. Lets not have a game make sense right?
Quote:[18:18:32] Ammzi > did you read the news? [18:20:53] Overlord Invictus > yeah [18:21:52] Overlord Invictus > isis is getting its ass kicked [18:33:49] Ammzi > https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=378423&find=unread[18:36:22] Overlord Invictus > ohh nice, someting that i can argue about logically and be beaten down by sheer stupidity and complete nonsensicality! woop[18:36:34] Overlord Invictus > cheers ammz [18:37:27] Overlord Invictus > itll be fun playing with you when all sov holding delve and querious alliances make npc null their home and ur camped in 24/7
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Aram Kachaturian
Love Squad Pasta Syndicate
111
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Posted - 2014.10.09 19:11:00 -
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Overlord Invictus wrote:err Fozzie, do you play eve online at all? [...]. but i guess you're too jaded for that to occur. Lets not have a game make sense right?
Thats not very nice. Are you having concerns over the current turn of events ?
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Overlord Invictus
The Graduates Forged of Fire
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Posted - 2014.10.09 19:18:00 -
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Aram Kachaturian wrote:Overlord Invictus wrote:err Fozzie, do you play eve online at all? [...]. but i guess you're too jaded for that to occur. Lets not have a game make sense right? Thats not very nice. Are you having concerns over the current turn of events ?
no it just means we'll be living side by side in the same station cause npc null is now the land of honey and rainbows quite obviously. |
Andrasta Syne
24th Imperial Crusade Amarr Empire
0
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Posted - 2014.10.09 19:21:00 -
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Dabigredboat wrote:So instead of working on NPC stations and the ability for entire alliances to live in an NPC station with immunity, you instead fix the only way that alliances who control 0.0 space can defend against people living in npc stations? or at least slow them down slightly when having force projected on them? I understand dropping a bubble and docking is unintended but why are you not addressing the problem and instead addressing the average 0.0 pilots way of fixing it for you?
So I guess you are making it so that the average 0.0 alliance can disable npc station services and not have to use dictors to slow them down?
Jesus cry more
Everyone knows this was a **** mechanic, the only question was the way a solution could be implemented. And tbh it's a pretty decent solution. And here you are actually arguing FOR it. Holy. Balls.
I'm going to say this in the most sensitive and polite way I know how: You are dumb as hell. |
Aquila Sagitta
Blue-Fire
514
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Posted - 2014.10.09 19:21:00 -
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Why don't you just make dictors get aggression from dropping bubbles?
This seems like a completely ass backwards way of 'fixing' this. Blue-Fire Best Fire |
Sabine Vynneve
Love Squad Pasta Syndicate
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Posted - 2014.10.09 19:23:00 -
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Aquila Sagitta wrote:Why don't you just make dictors get aggression from dropping bubbles? This seems like a completely ass backwards way of 'fixing' this. Aggression from bubbles would significantly change other mechanics, including things around gates. This is legitimately cleanest fix that doesn't affect any other gameplay. |
Aram Kachaturian
Love Squad Pasta Syndicate
111
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Posted - 2014.10.09 19:24:00 -
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But you are already living with us in PR-.
Trying desperately to annoy us.
Be glad.
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Nartel Vortok
Nex Exercitus Northern Coalition.
70
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Posted - 2014.10.09 19:26:00 -
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If you want to camp people into npc stations so much then use a hic |
Overlord Invictus
The Graduates Forged of Fire
1
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Posted - 2014.10.09 19:26:00 -
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the mechanic as it currently stands is not broken, it actually promoted teamplay. but it seems fozzie wants Eve Online to not be a massive multiplayer online game, but a massive alt-iboxer online game. |
Tara Vorkosigan
Of Questionable Repute
41
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Posted - 2014.10.09 19:27:00 -
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Aquila Sagitta wrote:Why don't you just make dictors get aggression from dropping bubbles? This seems like a completely ass backwards way of 'fixing' this.
If Dictors got aggression from dropping bubbles, than they couldn't cover retreats through gates without dying. |
Aram Kachaturian
Love Squad Pasta Syndicate
111
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Posted - 2014.10.09 19:28:00 -
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Overlord Invictus wrote:the mechanic as it currently stands is not broken, it actually promoted teamplay. but it seems fozzie wants Eve Online to not be a massive multiplayer online game, but a massive alt-iboxer online game.
I'm sorry bro, but it really looks like you are upset or at least tickled by those coming changes.
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Veng3ance
Origin. Black Legion.
43
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Posted - 2014.10.09 19:28:00 -
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Hooray \o/
Great solution for this problem. Thanks guys. |
Overlord Invictus
The Graduates Forged of Fire
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Posted - 2014.10.09 19:37:00 -
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Aram Kachaturian wrote:Overlord Invictus wrote:the mechanic as it currently stands is not broken, it actually promoted teamplay. but it seems fozzie wants Eve Online to not be a massive multiplayer online game, but a massive alt-iboxer online game. I'm sorry bro, but it really looks like you are upset or at least tickled by those coming changes. What's the matter?
explain to me plz how dropping a single bomb on the undock to clear a bubble for capitals to jump doesnt solve the issue of hobojamming without dev time and actually promotes teamplay, as opposed to this waste of dev-time? |
Aram Kachaturian
Love Squad Pasta Syndicate
113
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Posted - 2014.10.09 19:39:00 -
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Well you are passing each single day of your life desperately bubbling our station, you should know a lot about wasting time.
Dont be so rude with the devs.
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Hopelesshobo
Tactical Nuclear Penguin's
329
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Posted - 2014.10.09 19:44:00 -
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CCP Fozzie wrote: "hobojamming"
Can I file a class action lawsuit for slandering my name? Lowering the average to make you look better since 2012. |
JEFFRAIDER
Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion
334
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Posted - 2014.10.09 19:45:00 -
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Dabigredboat wrote:So instead of working on NPC stations and the ability for entire alliances to live in an NPC station with immunity, you instead fix the only way that alliances who control 0.0 space can defend against people living in npc stations? or at least slow them down slightly when having force projected on them? I understand dropping a bubble and docking is unintended but why are you not addressing the problem and instead addressing the average 0.0 pilots way of fixing it for you?
So I guess you are making it so that the average 0.0 alliance can disable npc station services and not have to use dictors to slow them down?
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Hendrick Tallardar
Habitual Euthanasia Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2014.10.09 19:45:00 -
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Overlord Invictus wrote:the mechanic as it currently stands is not broken, it actually promoted teamplay. but it seems fozzie wants Eve Online to not be a massive multiplayer online game, but a massive alt-iboxer online game.
This actually promotes more than just one person doing one thing to achieve the same goal. Though, maybe you're right. Maybe CCP Fozzie is just trying to ruin EVE and make it into an all isboxer game because he hates EVE so much. That's probably the answer. LeeSsang. Never Forget. |
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Veng3ance
Origin. Black Legion.
43
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Posted - 2014.10.09 19:45:00 -
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Overlord Invictus wrote:the mechanic as it currently stands is not broken, it actually promoted teamplay. but it seems fozzie wants Eve Online to not be a massive multiplayer online game, but a massive alt-iboxer online game.
Promoted team play?
Yeah solo invunerable dictors bubbling off the undock.
What immersive teamplay. |
Overlord Invictus
The Graduates Forged of Fire
2
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Posted - 2014.10.09 19:47:00 -
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Aram Kachaturian wrote:Well you are passing each single day of your life desperately bubbling our station, you should know a lot about wasting time.
Dont be so rude with the devs.
It's time to go back to your lands and live a happy life.
my time IS worthless and bubbling your station IS worthwhile for such a worthless person such as myself. however i regard Developers time as golddust and prefer to see it being used to advance this game in a worthwhile cause, not this pile of horse sh*t.
plus, its not 'your' station, its everyones station. You'd be wise to remember that. |
JEFFRAIDER
Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion
334
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Posted - 2014.10.09 19:50:00 -
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Overlord Invictus wrote:Aram Kachaturian wrote:Well you are passing each single day of your life desperately bubbling our station, you should know a lot about wasting time.
Dont be so rude with the devs.
It's time to go back to your lands and live a happy life. my time IS worthless and bubbling your station IS worthwhile for such a worthless person such as myself. however i regard Developers time as golddust and prefer to see it being used to advance this game in a worthwhile cause, not this pile of horse sh*t. plus, its not 'your' station, its everyones station. You'd be wise to remember that.
no it's God's station |
Aquila Sagitta
Blue-Fire
514
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Posted - 2014.10.09 19:53:00 -
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Sabine Vynneve wrote:Aquila Sagitta wrote:Why don't you just make dictors get aggression from dropping bubbles? This seems like a completely ass backwards way of 'fixing' this. Aggression from bubbles would significantly change other mechanics, including things around gates. This is legitimately cleanest fix that doesn't affect any other gameplay.
Being able to bubble then jump is kinda dumb. Doesn't really make sense that dictor bubble doesn't aggress but hictor bubble does Blue-Fire Best Fire |
Varesk
Origin. Black Legion.
647
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Posted - 2014.10.09 19:59:00 -
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Overlord Invictus wrote:Aram Kachaturian wrote:Overlord Invictus wrote:the mechanic as it currently stands is not broken, it actually promoted teamplay. but it seems fozzie wants Eve Online to not be a massive multiplayer online game, but a massive alt-iboxer online game. I'm sorry bro, but it really looks like you are upset or at least tickled by those coming changes. What's the matter? explain to me plz how dropping a single bomb on the undock to clear a bubble for capitals to jump doesnt solve the issue of hobojamming without dev time and actually promotes teamplay, as opposed to this waste of dev-time?
You should have to use "Team Play" to camp an ALLIANCE in a station, not just 1 nerd running a macro. If you cannot do this, i suggest you "get more friends".
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Aram Kachaturian
Love Squad Pasta Syndicate
113
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Posted - 2014.10.09 20:03:00 -
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Dabigredboat wrote:So instead of working on NPC stations and the ability for entire alliances to live in an NPC station with immunity
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Varesk
Origin. Black Legion.
647
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Posted - 2014.10.09 20:06:00 -
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Dabigredboat wrote:So instead of working on NPC stations and the ability for entire alliances to live in an NPC station with immunity, you instead fix the only way that alliances who control 0.0 space can defend against people living in npc stations? or at least slow them down slightly when having force projected on them? I understand dropping a bubble and docking is unintended but why are you not addressing the problem and instead addressing the average 0.0 pilots way of fixing it for you?
So I guess you are making it so that the average 0.0 alliance can disable npc station services and not have to use dictors to slow them down?
You have 36k people in the CFC. You have enough man/woman power to camp anyone in the station with a fleet and do other things. I am not sure why you are mad about these changes. |
Jean Luc Lemmont
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
61
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Posted - 2014.10.09 20:07:00 -
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Techno Model wrote: Not sure who crawled up CCP's ass and decided to screw with the Goons but well done Fozzie, that is probably one of the most idiotic waste of time CCP have made this year. So much broken with the game and you decide to waste code on hobo jamming. How soon before you leave for Riot?
Please show us on this doll of a hobo where CCP touched your bubble. A bitter vet trying to start anew. |
Powers Sa
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Posted - 2014.10.09 20:11:00 -
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CCP Fozzie wrote: In general we like to have lots of good methods for disrupting larger groups, but this "undock-bubble-dock-repeat" mechanic doesn't provide enough risk to the dictor pilot to be properly balanced.
When can I incap NPC 0.0 mods then?
You have 0 options for disrupting people staging from NPC 0.0 stations now. lol |
Porucznik Borewicz
Love Squad Pasta Syndicate
13
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Posted - 2014.10.09 20:13:00 -
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Overlord Invictus wrote:Aram Kachaturian wrote:Well you are passing each single day of your life desperately bubbling our station, you should know a lot about wasting time.
Dont be so rude with the devs.
It's time to go back to your lands and live a happy life. my time IS worthless and bubbling your station IS worthwhile for such a worthless person such as myself. however i regard Developers time as golddust and prefer to see it being used to advance this game in a worthwhile cause, not this pile of horse sh*t. plus, its not 'your' station, its everyones station. You'd be wise to remember that. Damn mate, you sure are buttmad. BTW, please explain to me how could I use your elite hobojamming tactics on your overlords stations while not being able to dock in them? Hmm...? |
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