Yes your example had 100 people chasing him... take shifts

if you want to catch him wait for him or bait him out if hes not worth the trouble then don't

A year and a half into his watch...

And I'll just leave these two links here:

AFK Cloaking Collection Thread
AFK Cloaking Collection Thread--second set of links

After all those threads and all those pages....CCP has opted to say: nothing. This, in and of itself, should tell people something. All that sturm und drang has not motivated CCP to offer even a whisper should indicate that CCP finds the current cloaking mechanic acceptable.

Just because there's more intensity of posting by people that don't think it's s problem doesn't mean that they have a better case or represent the players better. It may be that more people that like cloaky camping post more and nothing else.

Ultimately the only thing that matters is what CCP thinks about this tactic and how players respond to it. You might feel great in saying the cloaky whiners just need to adapt, but if they don't and CCP loses an account over it, that matters more than how well you sleep at night because of your amazing display of forum logic.

I agree with the OP that CCP should at least address the issue as they have addressed many others that were just as controversial (freighter ganking in highsec for instance). At least them we would know their position on gameplay and how it relates to their view of player satisfaction.

Reported for redundancy.

I see the usual circle of arguments are on going. As yet, the anto cloak brigade have failed to show an issue. Other than 'I can see him in local, he scares me.'

Daichi

Why are you adverse to the idea of changing cloak? If it brings about more PVP, wouldn't that be good?

That applies to everyone really that feels that this topic is talked to death?

Why is the argument to not change anything. Any change to cloak would result in more PVP. So many topics about how people camp in stations and pos, and so many wanting timers for people to be kicked out of station. Yet it's the exact same thing with trying to fight a cloak in system. You just can't do it.

My other example of how I can just hide a Rorq when I dont want to fight. This again avoids PVP.

Wouldnt changes to increase PVP be a benefit?

Of course you would see it that way Mags. Although that ignores the three reasons that I already brought up here in the thread, two of those not being afk cloak camping.

Easiest way to avoid the topic is to close it I guess.

CCP also thought that jump range was fine too. We see they have changed their mind.

Because you like every other complainer, looks at cloaks only. If you had your way, null would be even safer than it already is.

It's currently balanced, deal with it.

So balanced that CCP is completely upending it with the change to jump drives.....

CCP also thought that jump range was fine too. We see they have changed their mind.

No they post with more rationale. Rather than the people who open these threads who think its unfair for a player to do little more than sit in local. No one was ever killed by a cloaked afk player. Sitting afk in space is fine. Cloaking is fine.

CCP have made their position known.

OP just needs to stop being a null bear and deal with the problem using any of the myriad of ways that have been presented in these threads. Or he can go back to hi-sec where he probably belongs anyways.

Just because you agree with someone, doesn't mean it has more rationale for everyone. And I not going to agur with you about cloaking, since that's off topic.

If CCP has made their position known, please provide a link or your statement is meaningless.

I personally wont back down from the idea that cloak is unbalanced. There are far too many examples of how its not balanced, even if you want to say that they arent examples.

It stands to read that cloak should be looked at as well. It can too easily be abused.

I dont want them gone. I want to find an kill them. This unfortunately ruffles the feathers of the cloakies that so enjoy hiding behind them.

Several people have made suggestions on how to change cloaks or add cloak hunting to the game. Many of them are good ideas.

Just because you agree with someone, doesn't mean it has more rationale for everyone. And I not going to agur with you about cloaking, since that's off topic.

If CCP has made their position known, please provide a link or your statement is meaningless.

"No, you want easy kills to pad your killboard.

]You really are reaching now and failing rather badly.

And well made points like:
'What mechanic is the AFK cloaker using to interact with you?'.

Another example of an ad hominem.

"No, you want easy kills to pad your killboard. There are already several methods to catch cloaky ships as the come into system. Use any number of them."

Thank you for validating this thread and every one before it in regards to cloaking.

If you feel that a change to cloak would suddenly make you an easy target, its going to bias everything you have to say. You can make all the points you want, but ultimately this statement is how you feel.

Adding a way to hunt cloakies shatters your safety net. You suddenly have to fight to survive. However you ask miners to do this all the time.

Really? Interesting.