True but the fact that so many threads existist says that their is an issue and has been yet really hasn't been acted on or even discuessed. In my long time watching these the ads I haven't really seen anything about it from ccp on ideas / solutions.. I guess the question is.. is the issue something of importance to other people or is it just another captains quarter's

no it doesn't, its just telling of the fact that most people hate psychological warfare.

First off, cloaking is very balanced.

With the way local is now, you know they are there, most not where they are. They can't interact with anything while cloaked, and must decloak to directly affect anyone.

Second, give me your stuff/biomass.

Finally, inb4lock.

Yes. It's so balanced that there are hundreds of pages of people talking about how it's not. It's one of the most talked about items on the forums.

Yes. It's so balanced that there are hundreds of pages of people talking about how it's not. It's one of the most talked about items on the forums.

By all clockly threads being rule 17nd is this ccps way of saying they aren't willing to deal with an important issue.

I don't see it as being unwilling to discuss an issue but rather that to CCP this is very probably and rightly a non-issue.

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- The ultimate safety net. I can be chased by 100's of ships. As long as I make it past the gate camp, there is no possible way a cloak can be found in system. The cloak pilot has 1 challenge and that is the gate. However if I am a cloak pilot and I see the threat as being too high. I can just go afk and wait or just log off.

That's just an assumption though. It's just as plausible to say that CCP isn't commenting cause they have no idea how to fix the issue.

Con's

- AFK Camping. Though an accepted tactic by CCP it does frustrate many players, as there is no counter. Either risk operating in the system OR move to another system. There is no way to eject the stealth player from the system.
- Ship hiding. I can literally have billions of isk worth of ships floating in space and no one would ever know. I can have a rorq on grid in a belt. As soon as there is a threat, I simply cloak the ship. Unless you witnessed the ship cloaking, you would have no idea where it was.
- The ultimate safety net. I can be chased by 100's of ships. As long as I make it past the gate camp, there is no possible way a cloak can be found in system. The cloak pilot has 1 challenge and that is the gate. However if I am a cloak pilot and I see the threat as being too high. I can just go afk and wait or just log off.

These are just a few examples. There are plenty more.

This does not mean it is imbalanced.

If you look at the threads, for every person who thinks it is not balanced, there are many more saying it is with much more rationale.

It has been discussed to DEATH and then some. This is why they are locked, because there is LITERALLY nothing more to say on the matter that has not already been said a THOUSAND times.

• Why are you in nullsec if one neutral scares you to death? For godsakes, nullsec ratting grounds are safer than highsec and you're complaining about danger. Moreover, why do you need to "eject that stealth player from the system"? Since you're so adamant that you must be able to do it, perhaps you can explain why.
• What can you do with billions in cloaked ships? Oh, that's right, nothing. Cloaked ships cannot interact or do anything except float around in space. Maybe they can get decloaked by an errant bit of debris or perhaps if they're covert-capable they can warp around some, but that's it. Literally every other interaction requires decloaking.
• I can do the same thing with a MWD cruiser (or smaller), a safespot (a celestial can work too) and double-clicking in a random direction. By the time an aggressor scans me down, gets a warp-in and lands, I'm already out of range. An interceptor can keep this game up literally forever without ever touching a cloak. Also, you can just log off regardless of your ship having a cloak or not.

Your move, sir.

"if you really want him he's not safe sure you have to put some time in but there are only so many ways to get out of a system."

So I have to wait for him to come to me? What are the likely chances that will happen? I can spend hours waiting while the player is logged off and never see him. Eventually he will log in and leave.

Just because there's more intensity of posting by people that don't think it's s problem doesn't mean that they have a better case or represent the players better. It may be that more people that like cloaky camping post more and nothing else.

Ultimately the only thing that matters is what CCP thinks about this tactic and how players respond to it. You might feel great in saying the cloaky whiners just need to adapt, but if they don't and CCP loses an account over it, that matters more than how well you sleep at night because of your amazing display of forum logic.

I agree with the OP that CCP should at least address the issue as they have addressed many others that were just as controversial (freighter ganking in highsec for instance). At least them we would know their position on gameplay and how it relates to their view of player satisfaction.