Remember that one time when I said




and then it happened?

Good times.

wahhh.......
mommy those people are better at this game than me, ban them mommy!!!
wahhh.......

ISBoxer is legal. If you can't afford to use it,(or aren't smart enough) that's your problem. lrn2eve

jelly much?

Necrothread...for the best reason...self adulation.

I read that there may be/is a nerf bat somewhere ready to take a swing at bombers. I've only recently started flying them, and have already seen how insanely effective they are for wiping out entire fleets with little to no counter available. There are a lot of fits and ship types which may be excluded from doctrines/fun fleets because a handful of bombers will wipe them out.

From your experiences, do bombers need a nerf? If they do, what do you the players think the best way to bring them back into balance would be? Interested to hear what others think.

Because shields have passive regen is my guess.
E: Actually, I thought about that a bit more and the equivalent of passive regen for armor is the large buffer.. So I suppose a skill makes sense?
And Jarod, ISBoxer isn't being banned. Certain features are, but it's not isboxer specific.

And Jarod, ISBoxer isn't being banned. Certain features are, but it's not isboxer specific.

Ban ISBoxers.

Bombers fixed. Mining Fixed. ISBoxer whine threads fixed.




Its like killing the Batman. Its simple and literally solves everything.

Covert cloakies decloaking each other would suck by proximity. As is you have the challenge level of one dude failing to engage his cloak in large fleets wrecking a shot at a bombing run. Fleet movements are not going to be manageable in anything greater than a squad. I don't get the regression in mechanics, these fleets are DESIGNED to be sneaky and people are not supposed to like them. This is especially true for anchored fleets.

This is just going to making covert fleets annoying to fly. You won't have time to get everyone setup on their own tacs and bomb spots before bombing fleets. The battlefield may change too much in that time but its more about the time to set things up properly.

Warpins at range by squad to launch bombs is going to expose the whole fleet a lot more. I'm sure bomber FCs are getting nightmares thinking about it. Decloaking is simply going to take a lot of fun with bomber fleets right out. Pulling off a good run takes planning and skill. The concepts are simple enough but those that consistently pull them off know the intricacies of bombing runs and the limitations of the most fragile frigates in game.

Furthermore, bombers are a weapon in the world of coalitions that allow the few to take on the many. I would like to get a dev blog that really highlights 'the problem' as all I see here are distractions towards other issues.

No one really had a problem with bombers until they stopped decloaking one another and could be isboxed. Just sayin'.

Remember that one time when I said




and then it happened?

Good times.

You should be more upset at 200 people sitting in none place ganking small gangs then 5 bomber pilots wiping out a fleet of drooling F1 monkeys sitting on one place with no counters besides n+1.

Proposed changes to cloaking reverted. Multiplexing/broadcasting banned. Bombers still got more base tank and fitting with only slightly worse agility. Bomber net buff.

Bomb flight time and velocity slightly adjusted. Very slight nerf.

Final tally: Slight buff.

Indeed. They took the most overpowered class of ship and made it slightly more powerful. CCP: 1, Balance: 0