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Blut Legion
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Posted - 2006.08.14 22:24:00 -
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Lo, aint played since back when m0o were about, made this new toon.
Any decent Pirate corps terrorising people?
I like how eve has changed, like with all the new content, but there seem to be more****z whining about getting shot etc.
Well there seems to be less "griefing", good I guess.
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Wrayeth
Inexorable Retribution
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Posted - 2006.08.14 22:29:00 -
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There are all sorts of pirates running about. Just enter lowsec and go NPCing for about five minutes. If you don't die jumping in to a gatecamp, your local pirates should come calling shortly.
-Wrayeth
"Look, pa! I just contributed absolutely nothing to this thread!"
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Zyrtan Keb'Lektar
Exotic Dancers Club
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Posted - 2006.08.14 22:31:00 -
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solo pvp in eve is a dying game, and so are good old pirate corps
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Psycarne
Minmatar
Celestial Apocalypse
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Posted - 2006.08.14 22:33:00 -
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Edited by: Psycarne on 14/08/2006 22:33:48
There is plenty of solo pvp if you look for it.
EDIT: Ok you might have trouble getting it out of an alliance 
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Blut Legion
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Posted - 2006.08.14 22:37:00 -
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cool, guess gonna check low sec belts / 4/10 'plexs out? Or camp 0.0 alliance hauler routes / luck enough to find 0.0 mining ops place.
hmmmmmmmmm
Oh btw I dont gank, I will actually try and ransom, even like a bantam or whatever lol.
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Zyrtan Keb'Lektar
Exotic Dancers Club
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Posted - 2006.08.14 22:52:00 -
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well, ill wish you all the luck in the world when it comes to piracy. and ill pray u find what you are looking for
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Nakatre Read
Caldari
Vindication Angels
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Posted - 2006.08.14 22:57:00 -
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Yes, decent piracy still exists.
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Verone
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Posted - 2006.08.14 22:59:00 -
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Sadly, Eve is moving more toward terratorial control and large scale warfare, so a lot of the work is being put in there and smaller corps and solo players are being left behind as more and more people join alliances.
Pirating the real way is becoming less and less easly unless you fight the blob, or angry mob.
There's still a few corps out there who do it sucessfully though, and those are the people you're most likely to get ransomed by in lowsec.
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kessah
Caldari
Blood Corsairs
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Posted - 2006.08.15 01:56:00 -
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 Originally by: Verone
Sadly, Eve is moving more toward terratorial control and large scale warfare, so a lot of the work is being put in there and smaller corps and solo players are being left behind as more and more people join alliances.
Pirating the real way is becoming less and less easly unless you fight the blob, or angry mob.
There's still a few corps out there who do it sucessfully though, and those are the people you're most likely to get ransomed by in lowsec.
Agreed, always outnumbered latly.  Veto are a corp of true pirates tho.
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Lord Azraiel
Minmatar
Forsaken Empire
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Posted - 2006.08.15 06:15:00 -
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More often than not your gonna run into griefers that dont realise its easier to ransom than to just kill. You'll also get people that will ransom your ship, and then just kill you anyway. That in turn makes most people not want to pay the ransom. It's all messed up mate.
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Tekka
Caldari
Dark Cartel
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Posted - 2006.08.15 06:28:00 -
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Yes.
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Handon Guild
Exotic Dancers Club
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Posted - 2006.08.15 08:53:00 -
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Blut Legion >> If you are interested in joining a pirate corp that still tries to cling on to the old values, (and if you have decent pvp-skills), contact me ingame, or post an application on our forums.
Exotic Dancers Recruitment forum
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5hakey
The Led Zeppelins
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Posted - 2006.08.15 15:04:00 -
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Myself and my corp are still trying to cling to the old pirate ways. That is, we dnt just sit at gates poppin' shuttles. We scan our targets, we move quickly, don't hang around too long. Wherever we can we ransom, and I like to think we do it with class 
I also very much enjoy solo pirating, i find it a challenge, but a fun nd satisfying one, like trying to bed your best friends mum in a way.
Cryin' won't help you, Prayin' will do you no good |
Portios Smith
Gallente
Sanguine Legion
Atrocitas
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Posted - 2006.08.15 16:30:00 -
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Originally by: Verone
Sadly, Eve is moving more toward terratorial control and large scale warfare, so a lot of the work is being put in there and smaller corps and solo players are being left behind as more and more people join alliances.
Pirating the real way is becoming less and less easly unless you fight the blob, or angry mob.
There's still a few corps out there who do it sucessfully though, and those are the people you're most likely to get ransomed by in lowsec.
Agreed!
Every one is ratting in 0.0
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Sangxianc
Reikoku
Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.08.15 18:11:00 -
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Originally by: Handon Guild
Blut Legion >> If you are interested in joining a pirate corp that still tries to cling on to the old values, (and if you have decent pvp-skills), contact me ingame, or post an application on our forums.
I've had brushes with these guys in the past and have nothing but respect for them.
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Velsharoon
Gallente
Corsets and Carebears
Whips and Chains
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Posted - 2006.08.15 18:18:00 -
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We will ransom if we catch you in a belt or at a gate camp were we are at our leisure, but I think out of the dozens of ransoms we have offered in passari maybe two have been accepted...
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mallina
Turbulent
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Posted - 2006.08.15 18:23:00 -
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Its different now in that many people got the chance to play WoW and the such and came to EVE where they proceeded to get killed multiple times without their consent and so got very upset and made millions of threads on the forums complaining about the game mechanics and how they find it too difficult to adapt
and the like
but real piracy still exists
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Ranx Xerox
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Posted - 2006.08.16 11:49:00 -
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Edited by: Ranx Xerox on 16/08/2006 11:49:52
I have passed severals days in passari just to look what happen and how you achieve your +100 killpod / day
So from what i see, any people in something other than a BC / BS / Industrial is instakilled by snip at 250 kms, no time for ranson, peole die in max 3 seconds after uncloak
So when you speak about 2 people that agree, maybe you should try to ransom more often
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Ander
Gallente
Sniggerdly
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Posted - 2006.08.16 12:42:00 -
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Yaaarr.
EVE PIRATE
RAWR!11 Sig Hijack!11 - Imaran |
Velsharoon
Gallente
Corsets and Carebears
Whips and Chains
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Posted - 2006.08.16 13:36:00 -
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Originally by: Ranx Xerox
Edited by: Ranx Xerox on 16/08/2006 11:49:52
I have passed severals days in passari just to look what happen and how you achieve your +100 killpod / day
So from what i see, any people in something other than a BC / BS / Industrial is instakilled by snip at 250 kms, no time for ranson, peole die in max 3 seconds after uncloak
So when you speak about 2 people that agree, maybe you should try to ransom more often
The eagle(s) are there to catch pods, shuttles, frigs
We kill industrials as we dont know whats in them. We dont fit the scanner modules as they are a waste of med slots and ccp cba fixing it
We ransom when we want to, we have to deal with the anti pirates after us as well so we tend to want to get things dealt with quickly
When we roam we will always offer a ransom to a BS, but just because we can ransom at gates doesnt mean we have to
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Ms Muneca
AYDS
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Posted - 2006.08.16 19:48:00 -
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yar.
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Spei Prodetor
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Posted - 2006.08.17 02:48:00 -
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gl =/ not to many left out there
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Michelle Deathmind
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Posted - 2006.08.17 03:24:00 -
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Most claim to be pirates but are really just griefers looking for killmails to stroke their epeen.
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Ms Muneca
AYDS
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Posted - 2006.08.17 03:40:00 -
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Well, you can look at people who rarely ransom as griefers instead of pirates, but the truth is (half quoted from a corpmate), "blowing up the ship is like opening a fortune cookie."
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GodWin cadela
Caldari
Exotic Dancers Club
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Posted - 2006.08.17 07:32:00 -
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personally i believe that piracy is more or less dead in eve.
I know there are still a few people out there that try and ransom people in the hope to get some isk.
Personally i gave up on ransoming, ill rather kill off the ship and take the loot.
Instead of everytime you scramble someone shoot em to structure and start a convo, they will either warp off with stabs anyway or give you the magic words of "**** you ill get you for this" so ill take the loot and let them write the **** you in local which will come.
People in eve have to much isk these days, that they dont care about losing a ship or an implant. We have gone from geniune pirates and become pirates or griefers if you like.
We still kill for isk as we allways have as pirates too, but in my world a pirate ransom, and since people dont pay anymore people are more like "loot pickers" or "capitalistic pvp'ers" more than pirates!
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Naburi NasNaburi
Rens Nursing Home
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Posted - 2006.08.17 16:25:00 -
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Edited by: Naburi NasNaburi on 17/08/2006 16:27:29
Lately many people keep telling me that the only true way of pirating is setting up huge gatecamps with tons of bubbles.
Makes me sad.. there is so much more potential and so much more fun if you actually PLAY your role of a pirate.
When pointing that out Ive had people laugh at me. Quote: You dont get enough kills like that.
Honestly I prefer having ONE ransom/kill with style and fun for both sides over taking part in a gatecamp to produce a mass-grave.
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Ms Muneca
AYDS
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Posted - 2006.08.17 16:36:00 -
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Well it's not really about getting kills always.
Most people are just stabbed these days. Then if you get enough points on them and open convo, they still won't pay.
So shrug. It's probably not the pirates fault that we arn't ransoming nearly as much as people seem to want. Why can't we ever pirate those who want to pay vs cursing and going down in flames?
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Matsuo Masato
Minmatar
Blood Corsairs
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Posted - 2006.08.17 19:22:00 -
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i always forget to ransom lol plus im to pumed on adrenlin to be abel to type anything
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Shamis Orzoz
SniggWaffe
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Posted - 2006.08.17 19:29:00 -
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Edited by: Shamis Orzoz on 17/08/2006 19:29:20
Piracy has evolved. Adapt or be forgotten.
Low sec empire belt piracy is a good way to be really bored and make very little isk. Low sec gatecamps are profitable, but almost as boring.
Deep 0.0 piracy is where its at. That is where all the rich carebears live...or at least the ones that aren't protected by concord.
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Famine Aligher'ri
V i L e
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Posted - 2006.08.18 00:25:00 -
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Still solo,
Still hitting alliance miners in deep 0.0,
Still worshiping matar interceptors/frigs,
Still here...
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Skybar
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Posted - 2006.08.18 11:07:00 -
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Originally by: Lord Azraiel
More often than not your gonna run into griefers that dont realise its easier to ransom than to just kill. You'll also get people that will ransom your ship, and then just kill you anyway. That in turn makes most people not want to pay the ransom. It's all messed up mate.
Those who kills you after the ransom are....input bad word. I've yet to experience that myself though. However it's most often me on the other side of the gun.
One major problem about ransoming people, atleast when you are solo, is that targets are very very likely to be stabbed, and thus you don't always ransom.
This goes mostly for industrial/barges/ratting battlecruisers.
This is an issue that I think should be fixed somehow. Atleast give us a chance to see if the person has a wcs fitted (and no, i aint gonna fit a ship scanner when I just can blow the guy up).
The same goes with Gate camping, tanking the sentries for example - You don't want to sit there too long to wait for the person to pay the ransom, and thus, insta-gank is favorable in that situation.
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Famine Aligher'ri
V i L e
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Posted - 2006.08.18 15:05:00 -
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How is it easier to ransom than just kill? When you ransom someone, you have to hold the target there. You have to convo him and waste more time making yourself weak. You have to wait for him/her to send money. You have to watch local and the gate (if you're at a gate). I mean a lot of things, if you plan to ransom real targets.
Killing is much easier, you simply just kill! :)
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Wizie
Minmatar
Euphoria Released
Euphoria Unleashed
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Posted - 2006.08.18 15:11:00 -
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Solo piracy still exists... Yes.
However, its more out of the dedication of the few people who stick by it.
In reality, CCP have screwed over the entire piracy theme so hard, it's just not worth pirating anymore.
Majority of piracy nowadays is some Battleships sniping from 180K, or tanking sentries in a group up close, killing everything that comes through.
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Shamis Orzoz
SniggWaffe
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Posted - 2006.08.18 16:00:00 -
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Originally by: Famine Aligher'ri
How is it easier to ransom than just kill? When you ransom someone, you have to hold the target there. You have to convo him and waste more time making yourself weak. You have to wait for him/her to send money. You have to watch local and the gate (if you're at a gate). I mean a lot of things, if you plan to ransom real targets.
Killing is much easier, you simply just kill! :)
QFT
Ransoming is a pain in the ass, particularly due to convo lag. Hulks and Freighters is about all I have the patience to even attempt to ransom these days.
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AltTastic
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Posted - 2006.08.18 18:00:00 -
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Originally by: Ms Muneca
Well, you can look at people who rarely ransom as griefers instead of pirates, but the truth is (half quoted from a corpmate), "blowing up the ship is like opening a fortune cookie."
$20 says that was..... that new guy you have, the one who's been playing since '03. Can't remember his name and am at work.
Anyways, nice to see you folks on the forums. No, i'm not gonna post with my main. Yes, I see you almost every day. :)
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Hesed
Sanguine Legion
Atrocitas
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Posted - 2006.08.18 18:42:00 -
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We really need to get organized to grief the hell out of empire.
That doesn't mean band up into a superblob, but instead, get organized to keep up the pressure on unassuming corps in the most efficient ways possible. I think it would be very hard work to polarize the whole playerbase into paranoid enclaves, but it would be great fun.
To be honest, there's just not enough real ire inspired by people underpricing others by one cent to prompt a proper war dec. I want to see carebears sharpening their stubby eyeteeth and finding ways to make money using others to hurt each other. Some people focus on Jita, but I want to set every republic on fire and get almost every non-noobcorper involved in some thread of a vast morass of wars. NPCers in mid to low populated systems are even easier to find. As pirates, we have a responsibility to the playing experience. I think it may well even be our duty. Now if only I could pay attention to an npc long enough to get concord to let me back in...
We need to have so many scan probes floating between cooperating corps that it is considered almost unfeasable to risk running missions in a Raven even when there are no WTs in local.
*This may or may not be an elaborate scheme to boost numbers in lowsec for mindless, unplanned belt-piracy fun.
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Krist Valentine
Amarr
Bad Omen Syndicate
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Posted - 2006.08.18 18:43:00 -
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As far as I know, (which probably isn't all true), Veto and S******dly are the most respected pirate corps about - but then again my sources are mainly a friend or two in them here and there, and videos.
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idimmu69
Caldari
Veto.
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Posted - 2006.08.18 19:08:00 -
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People say you can't get money by ransoming?
Linkage
There's a fair bit of isk there all made by ransoming. Granted, you have to kill alot of people for the few who will pay, but perserverence(sp?) pays off in the end. Just always give the mark the option of paying or dying.
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Portios Smith
Gallente
Sanguine Legion
Atrocitas
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Posted - 2006.08.18 19:17:00 -
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I always ransom, thats what I am out there for. If I don't ransom is cause the fight was close and I was too busy trying to win it to worry about convos.
Some times my victim asks to be ransomed in this close encounters, I am happy to set a number and let them go in their merry way when they pay.
Sure ransoming is harder than killing, but hey is also more fun/entertaining to be able to do it. And then being able to really pay for your character needs from ransoms just feels darn good.
Kill mails dont feed my wallet, Ransoms do. Ransoming in EVE is the closest thing to boarding an 18th century Galleon and taking the gold
Bottom line is I would do what I think makes the most profit, if that means blowing up the ship and hoping some expensive crap survives, Then I will.
Also, solo piracy is the most fun, Too bad it's a dying art. too many blobs now days.
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AltTastic
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Posted - 2006.08.18 19:25:00 -
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Originally by: idimmu69
People say you can't get money by ransoming?
Linkage
There's a fair bit of isk there all made by ransoming. Granted, you have to kill alot of people for the few who will pay, but perserverence(sp?) pays off in the end. Just always give the mark the option of paying or dying.
Wait a second.... Don't get me wrong, I'm down with whatever you pirates want to do, I learned long ago how to avoid you all for the most part, so I rarely have an encounter with VETO (who operates near my home often), and a few other pirate corps, but...
How on earth do you guys stay afloat making such little money? Reading through the forum posts, its so minimal what you make on a day-to-day basis. I was once a mission runner, but do industrial crap on the side currently to pay the bills, and complexes for fun. I can honestly say with moderate skills and no tech2 bpo's I make easily triple what you people make, and VETO is top dog right? The lower pirate corps must be scraping by to survive?
Again, this is not a "<whine> I hate pirates" post, its more of a question of finances. I mean let's be honest, what I do for a living wouldn't be profitable if you guys weren't around. I'm just curious if that's really all you guys make day-to-day. Do you do other stuff like run complexes or mission whoring? Must be hard if you lose a BS or something. :/
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idimmu69
Caldari
Veto.
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Posted - 2006.08.18 19:55:00 -
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Well, as I said, you have to kill many people to get to the few who pay. For those that don't pay, there is always the loot, and the occasional faction spawn in the belts.
Small gangs or solo with a few mil in loot per kill, the occasional ransom, and other activities keeps the wallet above empty.
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TheKiller8
Caldari
S.A.S
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Posted - 2006.08.19 00:08:00 -
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Piracy is dead. Back in the day we yelled 'avast ye roid lubbers' and we ransomed those poor sods. But nowadays it's just 'lock shoot pop and **** the can he prolly had crap anyway'.
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Bobby2006
Gallente
Creative Industry Division
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Posted - 2006.08.19 00:39:00 -
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Everytime i'm low and money and i have to mine i get caught up but some stupid pirate in a stupid frigate and wanna pop my cruiser (full only with miners ) :(( ... only bad luck always ...
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Koddo
Defile.
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Posted - 2006.08.19 11:53:00 -
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Originally by: Shamis Orzoz
Edited by: Shamis Orzoz on 17/08/2006 19:29:20
Piracy has evolved. Adapt or be forgotten.
Low sec empire belt piracy is a good way to be really bored and make very little isk. Low sec gatecamps are profitable, but almost as boring.
Deep 0.0 piracy is where its at. That is where all the rich carebears live...or at least the ones that aren't protected by concord.
QFT
p.s. Yarrr!1!!
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