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Summer Ellisune
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Posted - 2006.08.15 00:11:00 -
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Ive seen discussions on whether or not we know about earth in EVE, so heres another question.
What is earth like today in the EVE world?
Surely they are more advanced than any race in EVE, including the jovians, but maybe not.
Also, do the jovians know more about earth than the rest of the races? and surely Earth must be still trying to re-gain contact with EVE.
Discuss.
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Tishlin Veredici
Gallente
Hadean Drive Yards
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Posted - 2006.08.15 02:55:00 -
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Edited by: Tishlin Veredici on 15/08/2006 02:56:35
Unfortunately we know nothing about Earth, nor of how long the 5 empires have been out of contact since the collapse of the Eve Gate. Anything could have happened during that time, so I guess it's up to your imagination.
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Balklanac
Freezoner
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Posted - 2006.08.15 12:02:00 -
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Earth is destroyed, having gone 'poof' in some galactic war. Humanity would be safe as they would have spread troughout the galaxy.However they too are split into different factions.
As for them being advanced, I really am not sure. They could have forgoten about New Eden, or they actually are allready amongst us, keeping a low profile observing or even interfering.
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Draisure Carlyle
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Posted - 2006.08.15 18:57:00 -
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Dark Jove, anybody?
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Abrah
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Posted - 2006.08.16 15:28:00 -
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Earth by now probably looks like mars , or it has been distroied in a supernova.
As for the people inhebiting earth ... either they found another sutable planet to live on either they got killed in the supernova or in the heat of the athmosphere .
Either way we will never meet them or see them due to the fact that the eve gate was a natural wormhole and even if ever its gonna be re activated or something i do not think it will take anyone at the starting point.
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SonShadowCat
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Posted - 2006.08.18 07:23:00 -
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The sun wouldn't have gone supernova for several BILLION years so no. Chances are Earth would have been destroyed in one of humanity's many wars. Not that it would matter since humanity had colonized the entire galaxy( as stated in the intro, before they found the wormhole).
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Darius Shakor
Minmatar
Freelance Unincorporated
Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2006.08.18 11:11:00 -
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Earth would be a tropical paradise.
Why?
Because humanity would be long removed from its face and it would have repaired itself by now.
And I agree it would have not gone supernova either. Heck eve is only 21,000 years in the future so thats hardly 'billions' of years ago.
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Edriahn
Gallente
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Posted - 2006.08.18 21:00:00 -
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 Originally by: Abrah
As for the people inhebiting earth ... either they found another sutable planet to live on either they got killed in the supernova or in the heat of the athmosphere .
Either way we will never meet them or see them due to the fact that the eve gate was a natural wormhole and even if ever its gonna be re activated or something i do not think it will take anyone at the starting point.
Why are you so pessimistic?:)
The human race has proven that could survive everything. Intergalactic war? Cataclisms? Only the strong survive. Just imagine what could human race achieve fo 8 thounsand years more than the EVE races. Intergalactic travels in a seconds, space structures and ships a lot bigger than the titans and the space-stations in the EVE. The Aearth may be a paradise, capital of a intergalactic empire? Why not?
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Unuthiel
Amarr
Imperial Academy
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Posted - 2006.08.23 16:59:00 -
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Hrm, I like the idea that people from Earth could be the Enheduanni. Asuuming no disasters on Earth, they would have incredibly advacned technology by now.
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Jon Engel
APEX Unlimited
Kimotoro Directive
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Posted - 2006.08.23 22:03:00 -
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Edited by: Jon Engel on 23/08/2006 22:04:34
I imagine some Galactic Dictatorship centered in Earth. The Planet Earth is prolly a Globe spanning city scape with little to no vegetation or fresh water anymore. The Earth Government imports water, food and other resources from its vast Empire spanning the Galaxy.
I think it be rather naive to think that if civilization survived on the other side they would not be at least looking for us.
I also beleive that if theyre out there they have technology thousands of years ahead of us.
Sadly we wont get to know for a long time about this subject. It does allow us for some imaginative theorys on this fun little topic.
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Preliator
Caldari
The Wolves' Pack
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Posted - 2006.08.24 11:36:00 -
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Obviously Earth-humans would be extremely more advanced than EVE-humans.
But Earth itself? Well, either it has been destroyed or turned into an uninhabitable rock, or humans may have decided to help restore Earth. It may have even become a kind of "protected planet" like you have country parks and wildlife reserves.
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Sadayiel
Caldari
Tropical Killer Bananas
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Posted - 2006.08.24 15:58:00 -
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Agent smith was right at matrix.
Humans are a virus, so we use the earth to feed ourselves it die and can't handle the human population (wich already was happening when EVE was found as the salvation of humankind)
from here tons of theories, i bet the "Racial-war" beetwen humans everything destroyed and a few survivors or none.
also i wouldn't be surprised if finally the enheduanni seems to be those survivors, think i already explain this theory, about 20.000 years of evolution from our technology as support on the enheduanni post
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Cree Austinteen
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Posted - 2006.08.25 22:36:00 -
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Um yeah earthlings wouldn't even be humans anymore. My guess is the eudhenni or however you spell them are some people from earth who think it is funny. Because actually the jove did lsoe a lot of earth technology. What it said abotu jove is they had a small dark age only a few hudnred years, before they were back at the level so that they could take baby steps etc. landing on a moon. But sicne earthlings would never have this they would by now be so suepr technologically advanced they probably turned themselves into energy.
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Nikolus Wrighte
Caldari
Xtreme Intruders
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Posted - 2006.09.08 05:22:00 -
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Warning Warning star trek nerdieness incomeing!
id say it would be like this
jove> modern day earth
us> 24th century federation
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Viktor Fyretracker
Caldari
Worms Corp
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Posted - 2006.09.08 14:13:00 -
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earth is probally a nuclear wasteland from its many wars. first our wars in this time and then as we became space faring im sure earth got nuked a few times by rogue factions and even in the many inter-corperation wars. as the opening movie states the world became controled by mega corps. so id say the Milky Way is probally if it kept with that course is a hyper advanced caldari empire.
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Asper Gillus
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Posted - 2006.09.08 20:23:00 -
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Earth today is not like anything we can imagine...
After several centuries of constant battle between corps, governments and religions the technology was so far grown that things like money, territorial possesion and profit became obsolete. Humans have altered their own body and mind so far beyond everything we understand that even if we could meet our brothers and sisters we won't be able to recognize them. And they won't have any interest in changeing that fact. Mankind is able to travel instantaniously from one corner of the galaxy to the other by the sheer power of their minds and their lifespan reached infinity.
Earthlings became gods. And the people in Eve are interessting to them as ants are to us in our daily lifes.
Mankind healed the wounds striken to mother earth by aeons of wars and cloaked the whole solar system within a minddisturbing nebula. No fleshborn entity in metal or organic ships should find their birthplace nor should it be humiliated again by the hands of anything less then what mankind has become...
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Maxoz
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Posted - 2006.09.09 16:37:00 -
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I think as the major corperations left earth and the explores went to Eve, some chance of humans getting away from the idea of corps and money may have entered someones mind across one of the plants that the mega corps colonised back in "Adam", Earth would have propbably been resotred after the major corps wipped eachother out by who ever was left, probably by the people who choose not to alley with empires and corps, unlike in todays world.
I don't think humans would be genetically altered, it seems a self defeting idea as we evole to what will best siut us anyway but over thousands of years they wouldn't be anything like us as we reverted back to the stonage in the story we would have stopped, the Jove came out first but they haven't really evoled so much a cloned themselves to death.
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Adonis 4174
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Posted - 2006.09.09 17:48:00 -
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Remember that the wars on the Earth side of the eve-gate only paused while we explored the new galaxy. Likely there isn't much left after what flared up when the gate closed.
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Sadayiel
Caldari
Tropical Killer Bananas
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Posted - 2006.09.10 19:30:00 -
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Originally by: Asper Gillus
Earth today is not like anything we can imagine...
After several centuries of constant battle between corps, governments and religions the technology was so far grown that things like money, territorial possesion and profit became obsolete. Humans have altered their own body and mind so far beyond everything we understand that even if we could meet our brothers and sisters we won't be able to recognize them. And they won't have any interest in changeing that fact. Mankind is able to travel instantaniously from one corner of the galaxy to the other by the sheer power of their minds and their lifespan reached infinity.
Earthlings became gods. And the people in Eve are interessting to them as ants are to us in our daily lifes.
Mankind healed the wounds striken to mother earth by aeons of wars and cloaked the whole solar system within a minddisturbing nebula. No fleshborn entity in metal or organic ships should find their birthplace nor should it be humiliated again by the hands of anything less then what mankind has become...
just another way to say earth = enheduanni, can search the post about them.
There is no goverments, and religions, are prolly ignored or very personal like in ancient rome (where each "family" had his own deitis o spirits to pray)
Only the Megacorps rules the earth, and this can explain too why jove Seems to be interested more in caldari society than any other, since they text may describe the old earth society before the Collapse very similar to current caldari one.
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Mirai Dubax
Gallente
Knights Justicar
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Posted - 2006.09.10 22:06:00 -
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hmm or simply no disasters, no new advance super ships and stuff.. just plain old humans. its as poseble as anny other senario that the olld human race never had anny great breaktreu again. or lacking sertain ore to to be able to invent them.
thy might still be the humans defided in several mega corps still fighting wars in old non-pod ships ..
entire galaxies fate can depent on one persons invention/choise for millions of years.
think of it and its poseble,annyting you can think off. even the invasion of carebears from summerloveland.
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Crumplecorn
Gallente
Aerial Boundaries Inc.
Interstellar Starbase Syndicate
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Posted - 2006.09.11 14:14:00 -
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Originally by: Summer Ellisune
What is earth like today in the EVE world?
Outdated texturing and a poor sense of scale. Wait, I misunderstood the question didn't I?
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Alyssa Keliaster
Hadean Drive Yards
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Posted - 2006.09.12 10:55:00 -
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Look here: Enheduanna
Maybe a small reference/source for you to think about?
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Posted - 2006.09.18 00:50:00 -
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Well, is it not possable that due to the fact it was a wormhole that colapsed that Earth has only just noticed we have gone 5 mins ago? and we are in fact ahead of them?
All that space time stuff that kills my brain every time i try to read about it lol.
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Kailea Shandrasekkar
Caldari
Tsurokigaarai
Kimotoro Directive
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Posted - 2006.09.18 17:01:00 -
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If the EVE gate is defined as a Lorentzian wormhole, we could as well be at 2,5 billion years BEFORE human time. Or after. wormholes doesn't connect only 2 different points in space, but in time also.
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AshrakTheWhite
Mercenary Forces
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Posted - 2006.09.19 08:56:00 -
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hes right :)
and as far as the chronicels say we are humans, which seperated after the wormhole went poof
we were a colony of humans before wormhole popped but it probly didnt destroy earth or anything so chances are earth is a dustball like it is now :)
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Elphy
Minmatar
Perfecktion
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Posted - 2006.09.20 14:08:00 -
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Originally by: Kailea Shandrasekkar
If the EVE gate is defined as a Lorentzian wormhole, we could as well be at 2,5 billion years BEFORE human time. Or after. wormholes doesn't connect only 2 different points in space, but in time also.
How about this for a Paradox. The EvE Wormhole was only connected to itself at a different point in time. So the EvE Galaxy is infact the Milky Way either far in the past or maybe far in the Future.
Now it would not be far in the future as no ruins of a long dead civilisation has been found but what if in one of those fringe unexplored systems in the unfasionable western spiral arm of the galaxy was infact prehistoric Earth! And infact at some point maybe in the past or possibally the future a group of explorers and colonists crash land on Prehistoric Earth. They would be in some kind of statis from the time before jump gates leaving their minds linked in a main computer system. They crash and are left only with base instincts and humanity grew from them. Much of this is an idea borrowed from The Hitch Hikers Guide to the Galaxy but it could be one explination.
Now wait... all of the four races at some point have found alien jump gates and accelerator gates which have aided in there expansion. So this could point to EvE infact being far far in the future after all evidence of an dead civilsation has been washed away by time leaving only a few clues floating in deep space.
Maybe the Jovians themselves are infact the what humanity will evolve into seen they are infact the remenants of an old galactic civilsation who did not travel through the EvE gate. This would explain there huge difference in physical form compared to other races even tho this has been put down to genetic experiments in the past no one knows alot about the Jovians so who knows either way. All we know is that there have been 3 Jove empires with sketchy timelines at best.
So if we take the eve gate to be not a link to two points in space but two points in time we have an advanced civilisation both technalogically and genetically whos past is unknown apart from a few events, whos reason for genetic difference is put down to experiements in the past without solid evidence that this is the sole cause as well as random alien ruins in the form of jump gates and accelerator gates floating about.
There is more than meets the eye here but I think it should not be discounted that the Jove Empire is infact what remains of the ancient human civilisation before the discovery of the eve gate who have evolved and changed to survive wars, disease and social unrest for maybe hundreds of thousands of years.
They are interested and drawn to the Caldari as they remind them most of their lost humanity and civilisation and through them maybe wish to rebuild and continue their destiny to colonise the stars.
All very far fetched but you never know
*note: yes my spelling sucks so sue me
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Caldari
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Posted - 2006.09.22 21:31:00 -
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The rate of human expansion pre-wormhole was almost exponential. Then they ran out of galaxy and started butting heads. When the wormhole collapsed I can only assume they went back to this, but on the off chance they did not, they may have moved on to colonising other galaxies. The rate of expansion there would, again, be exponential but significantly slowed by the travel distance between galaxies. Assuming a few million years since eve gates collapse (thats the maximum I could allow given eve humanities little evolutionary differences, anything more and you'd see a lot more changes) I'd say humanity probably occupies all the nearest galaxies around the milky way and is probably in its second wave. A wave expanding at warp speed....or better.
Imagine a wave of humanity crashing down on the eve universe from out of the depths between galaxies. Kind of like the tyranids. Would they play nice? :)
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couger malthas
Amarr
No Quarter.
Axiom Empire
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Posted - 2006.09.24 05:16:00 -
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i dont think the humans have become bugs of all things, maybe they thought it would be cool to make themselfs living metalic monstrositys, that hate everything living.
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Quaos
Gallente
Nightgliders
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Posted - 2006.09.24 16:17:00 -
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Originally by: Elphy
Originally by: Kailea Shandrasekkar
If the EVE gate is defined as a Lorentzian wormhole, we could as well be at 2,5 billion years BEFORE human time. Or after. wormholes doesn't connect only 2 different points in space, but in time also.
How about this for a Paradox. The EvE Wormhole was only connected to itself at a different point in time. So the EvE Galaxy is infact the Milky Way either far in the past or maybe far in the Future.
Now it would not be far in the future as no ruins of a long dead civilisation has been found but what if in one of those fringe unexplored systems in the unfasionable western spiral arm of the galaxy was infact prehistoric Earth! And infact at some point maybe in the past or possibally the future a group of explorers and colonists crash land on Prehistoric Earth. They would be in some kind of statis from the time before jump gates leaving their minds linked in a main computer system. They crash and are left only with base instincts and humanity grew from them. Much of this is an idea borrowed from The Hitch Hikers Guide to the Galaxy but it could be one explination.
Now wait... all of the four races at some point have found alien jump gates and accelerator gates which have aided in there expansion. So this could point to EvE infact being far far in the future after all evidence of an dead civilsation has been washed away by time leaving only a few clues floating in deep space.
Maybe the Jovians themselves are infact the what humanity will evolve into seen they are infact the remenants of an old galactic civilsation who did not travel through the EvE gate. This would explain there huge difference in physical form compared to other races even tho this has been put down to genetic experiments in the past no one knows alot about the Jovians so who knows either way. All we know is that there have been 3 Jove empires with sketchy timelines at best.
So if we take the eve gate to be not a link to two points in space but two points in time we have an advanced civilisation both technalogically and genetically whos past is unknown apart from a few events, whos reason for genetic difference is put down to experiements in the past without solid evidence that this is the sole cause as well as random alien ruins in the form of jump gates and accelerator gates floating about.
There is more than meets the eye here but I think it should not be discounted that the Jove Empire is infact what remains of the ancient human civilisation before the discovery of the eve gate who have evolved and changed to survive wars, disease and social unrest for maybe hundreds of thousands of years.
They are interested and drawn to the Caldari as they remind them most of their lost humanity and civilisation and through them maybe wish to rebuild and continue their destiny to colonise the stars.
All very far fetched but you never know
*note: yes my spelling sucks so sue me
Oooh, I like that idea. :O
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Posted - 2006.10.02 23:26:00 -
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Originally by: Asper Gillus
Earth today is not like anything we can imagine...
After several centuries of constant battle between corps, governments and religions the technology was so far grown that things like money, territorial possesion and profit became obsolete. Humans have altered their own body and mind so far beyond everything we understand that even if we could meet our brothers and sisters we won't be able to recognize them. And they won't have any interest in changeing that fact. Mankind is able to travel instantaniously from one corner of the galaxy to the other by the sheer power of their minds and their lifespan reached infinity.
Earthlings became gods. And the people in Eve are interessting to them as ants are to us in our daily lifes.
Mankind healed the wounds striken to mother earth by aeons of wars and cloaked the whole solar system within a minddisturbing nebula. No fleshborn entity in metal or organic ships should find their birthplace nor should it be humiliated again by the hands of anything less then what mankind has become...
Arthur C Clarke?
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