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Roflsaures Rex
Laughing Man Pirates
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Posted - 2014.10.13 09:17:00 -
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I've always thought that a brand new server instance where everyone starts over fresh would be really great for this game and for attracting new players who have hesitated to previously join due to thinking they would be too far behind. Any thoughts? |
Ama Scelesta
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Posted - 2014.10.13 09:28:00 -
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It's just a perceived problem and a new server can't therefore fix it. It would give the illusion of things being equal temporarily, but they won't be and CCP can't just keep making new servers every time bad players want to excuse their own failings by blaming anything but themselves. The truth is, that if you can't compete here, you won't be able to do it on a new server either. The know-how and organizational capability of older entities will transfer to any new server and leave the inexperienced and unorganized players in the dust in the exact same way. |
Drago Shouna
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
169
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Posted - 2014.10.13 09:31:00 -
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I think there is a case for a new server myself. But all the "vets" on here will kick and scream against it as they then lose easier marks to kill/scam etc. Or simply that recruits start to dry up.
But yeah, considering where the game now is it could be interesting. |
Ralph King-Griffin
Lords.Of.Midnight
The Devil's Warrior Alliance
5734
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Posted - 2014.10.13 09:39:00 -
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No.
=]I[= |
S'Way
Bitter Vets
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Posted - 2014.10.13 09:45:00 -
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WIthin a month it'd looks almost like a carbon copy of tranquility but without the supercaps (for a while).
Vets and big alliances knowing how the mechanics work would just expand there and take all the 0.0 space / control the markets (probably even more than on the current server).
Also sharding EvE would mean it wasn't EvE any longer and there'd be mass unsubs because the whole "actions have consequences in the single universe" would be gone. |
Abrazzar
Vardaugas Family
4858
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Posted - 2014.10.13 09:52:00 -
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A new server will not delete the friends, allies, connections and communities. It won't be a fresh and 'fair' beginning.
Sovereignty and Population
New Mining Mechanics |
Solecist Project
I'm So Meta Even This Acronym
10875
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Posted - 2014.10.13 09:53:00 -
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Troll.
I am Sol. I cook my bacon naked.
New capsuleer in need of money? You hope there is more you can do
than mining or being a slave to an agent? THERE IS! Send me a mail! |
Arla Sarain
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Posted - 2014.10.13 10:04:00 -
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Old players will still have an advantage. |
Solecist Project
I'm So Meta Even This Acronym
10875
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Posted - 2014.10.13 10:07:00 -
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Arla Sarain wrote:Old players will still have an advantage.
Hot, dark chocolate ...
... combined with whipped cream with freckles ....
... errrr sparkles of cinnamon.
hhhhhmmmmm...........
I am Sol. I cook my bacon naked.
New capsuleer in need of money? You hope there is more you can do
than mining or being a slave to an agent? THERE IS! Send me a mail! |
Jim Era
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Posted - 2014.10.13 10:14:00 -
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No, the eve universe is big, and there are a small number of players, why would you want to tilt the ratio even more.
A new server would have no positive meaning for this game.
WatGäó |
Irya Boone
Never Surrender.
393
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Posted - 2014.10.13 10:18:00 -
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hummmmm no
CCP it's time to remove Off Grid Boost and to Put Them on Killmail TOO, same for Logi....Open that damn door !! |
BrundleMeth
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
259
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Posted - 2014.10.13 10:45:00 -
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CCP please Biomass OP As Soon As Possible... |
Schmata Bastanold
Black Rebel Rifter Club
The Devil's Tattoo
2839
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Posted - 2014.10.13 10:59:00 -
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Meh, I would play Eve if it would become single player. Other people are annoying.
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Dwissi
Miners Delight
35
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Posted - 2014.10.13 11:59:00 -
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Time for a grr :) - just look at the chinese server - that has been handed over already to goonish pandemics and been nicely divided amongst them - so no
Proud designer of glasses for geeky dovakins
Before someone complains again: grrr everyone |
Agatir Solenth
Servants of the Throne Worlds
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Posted - 2014.10.13 12:00:00 -
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If I were to start again I'd get into industry with my alt & go full on ewar with my main for pvp.
However, I really don't see me starting over. The idea of "new" space to explore gets me excited & I love that EvE is only one server. |
Mithandra
Serene Vendetta
Brawls Deep
181
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Posted - 2014.10.13 12:03:00 -
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No. A thousand times no.
Eve is the dark haired, totally hot emo gothchild of the gaming community
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Hengle Teron
I'm So Meta Even This Acronym
2578
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Posted - 2014.10.13 12:06:00 -
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The imbalance between the big entities and the new players would be even greater than it ever was on tranquility is just a few short weeks. |
War Kitten
Panda McLegion
5375
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Posted - 2014.10.13 12:17:00 -
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No.
One instance of Eve is all there ever should be.
Move to China if you want to access Eve on a shard that isn't really Eve. They started from scratch.
I find that without a good mob to provide one for them, most people would have no mentality at all. |
Jenn aSide
Smokin Aces.
8558
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Posted - 2014.10.13 12:18:00 -
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It has nothing to do with veterans wanting to maintain some illusory advantage. EVE isn't like other MMOs where "level" matters. Character skills don't make you 'better' for the most part , they mostly give you access to new equipment and ways of doing things.
I sold the 1st character I ever made and i still have the 2nd one. That 2nd character can fly more ships and use more guns than any of my other characters. But the 3 focused characters I made (for various PVE related things, like incursions and Faction warfare missions) are much younger and much much better at what I use them for than that character that is years older.
Bottom line, a 'clean slate' won't cure a bad player's inadequacies (no matter how many skill points they have, they will still suck) and a good player isn't concerned about this kind of thing in the 1st place because he is more concerned about creating a good character that can do what needs to be done. |
Mr Floydy
Questionable Ethics.
Ministry of Inappropriate Footwork
241
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Posted - 2014.10.13 12:34:00 -
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A new server wouldn't get significant use. Yeh sure some new players would join it, but a large amount of older experienced players would not even bother starting again. |
KnowUsByTheDead
Sunlight...Through The Blight.
2086
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Posted - 2014.10.13 12:43:00 -
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*sigh*
  
Once you realize what a joke everything is, being the comedian is the only thing that makes sense. |
Drago Shouna
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
169
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Posted - 2014.10.13 12:52:00 -
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Jenn aSide wrote:It has nothing to do with veterans wanting to maintain some illusory advantage. EVE isn't like other MMOs where "level" matters. Character skills don't make you 'better' for the most part , they mostly give you access to new equipment and ways of doing things.
I sold the 1st character I ever made and i still have the 2nd one. That 2nd character can fly more ships and use more guns than any of my other characters. But the 3 focused characters I made (for various PVE related things, like incursions and Faction warfare missions) are much younger and much much better at what I use them for than that character that is years older.
Bottom line, a 'clean slate' won't cure a bad player's inadequacies (no matter how many skill points they have, they will still suck) and a good player isn't concerned about this kind of thing in the 1st place because he is more concerned about creating a good character that can do what needs to be done.
Why do you automatically presume anyone agreeing that there might be a case for a new server is a "bad" player? That's akin to thinking that everyone leaving a shop is a shoplifter...
My character is exactly where I want him to be, same with alts. I can do whatever I want to and mostly buy whatever I want to.
But I must suck because I think the idea has merit? Really?
Man that's a narrow minded viewpoint.
Some players on here have had the satisfaction of starting with a clean slate when this server started, with nothing freely available to buy apart from skill books and blueprints. Then building everything from scratch.
I wouldn't mind having the same opportunity. |
Dwissi
Miners Delight
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Posted - 2014.10.13 12:56:00 -
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Drago Shouna wrote:Jenn aSide wrote:It has nothing to do with veterans wanting to maintain some illusory advantage. EVE isn't like other MMOs where "level" matters. Character skills don't make you 'better' for the most part , they mostly give you access to new equipment and ways of doing things.
I sold the 1st character I ever made and i still have the 2nd one. That 2nd character can fly more ships and use more guns than any of my other characters. But the 3 focused characters I made (for various PVE related things, like incursions and Faction warfare missions) are much younger and much much better at what I use them for than that character that is years older.
Bottom line, a 'clean slate' won't cure a bad player's inadequacies (no matter how many skill points they have, they will still suck) and a good player isn't concerned about this kind of thing in the 1st place because he is more concerned about creating a good character that can do what needs to be done. Why do you automatically presume anyone agreeing that there might be a case for a new server is a "bad" player? That's akin to thinking that everyone leaving a shop is a shoplifter... My character is exactly where I want him to be, same with alts. I can do whatever I want to and mostly buy whatever I want to. But I must suck because I think the idea has merit? Really? Man that's a narrow minded viewpoint. Some players on here have had the satisfaction of starting with a clean slate when this server started, with nothing freely available to buy apart from skill books and blueprints. Then building everything from scratch. I wouldn't mind having the same opportunity.
Not taking Jenn's side here - but what you want to achieve can be done without creating a new server.
Just declare independence from all existing markets besides blueprints and start off making due for yourself/corporation. Thats how my corporation worked originally and that's why we still call it a sandbox.
Proud designer of glasses for geeky dovakins
Before someone complains again: grrr everyone |
Tuscor
United System's Commonwealth
80
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Posted - 2014.10.13 13:03:00 -
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This suggestion/idea flies in the face of everything eve stands for... the whole 'everyone playing in one universe, actions have consequences' thing...?
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Lady Areola Fappington
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Posted - 2014.10.13 13:08:00 -
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A new server won't get rid of assorted alliances web services, forums, organization, et al. In a way, Tranquility itself is just a part of a much greater whole that is Eve.
You might see a mad scramble of sov at first, but the old-timers will soon get organized, established, and evicting 10 man groups who thought they'd get to hold sov on a "new" server.
It isn't really hard, but I think there are customers that you can lose in a good way and there's customers that you can lose in a bad way. If people come in and fundamentally don't like EVE Online, then I think that might be a good way of losing customers. . -á--CCP Soundwave |
Drago Shouna
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
169
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Posted - 2014.10.13 13:09:00 -
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Dwissi wrote:Drago Shouna wrote:Jenn aSide wrote:It has nothing to do with veterans wanting to maintain some illusory advantage. EVE isn't like other MMOs where "level" matters. Character skills don't make you 'better' for the most part , they mostly give you access to new equipment and ways of doing things.
I sold the 1st character I ever made and i still have the 2nd one. That 2nd character can fly more ships and use more guns than any of my other characters. But the 3 focused characters I made (for various PVE related things, like incursions and Faction warfare missions) are much younger and much much better at what I use them for than that character that is years older.
Bottom line, a 'clean slate' won't cure a bad player's inadequacies (no matter how many skill points they have, they will still suck) and a good player isn't concerned about this kind of thing in the 1st place because he is more concerned about creating a good character that can do what needs to be done. Why do you automatically presume anyone agreeing that there might be a case for a new server is a "bad" player? That's akin to thinking that everyone leaving a shop is a shoplifter... My character is exactly where I want him to be, same with alts. I can do whatever I want to and mostly buy whatever I want to. But I must suck because I think the idea has merit? Really? Man that's a narrow minded viewpoint. Some players on here have had the satisfaction of starting with a clean slate when this server started, with nothing freely available to buy apart from skill books and blueprints. Then building everything from scratch. I wouldn't mind having the same opportunity. Not taking Jenn's side here - but what you want to achieve can be done without creating a new server. Just declare independence from all existing markets besides blueprints and start off making due for yourself/corporation. Thats how my corporation worked originally and that's why we still call it a sandbox.
I'm 99% self sufficient anyway, about the only thing I ever need to buy is the odd datacore or mats for a T2 item, I even make all my own pos fuel from mining to pi. I don't even really need to do T2, I only invent for personal satisfaction, no spreadsheets etc for market trading.
But starting from scratch without any temptation from an existing market? yeah that does attract me.
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Bruce Kemp
IMORTALS
120
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Posted - 2014.10.13 13:09:00 -
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CCP should run a #back in the day' 2003 eve online server, just to let you know how good you have it now. 
-áIf people played EVE as much as they posted rubbish on these forums, they might enjoy the game.
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gobbybobby
KILL-EM-QUICK
RISE of LEGION
48
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Posted - 2014.10.13 13:12:00 -
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splitting the community is a bad thing. U can unofficially play on the serenity server tho Its not as old as TQ. |
Pleistarchus Shikkoken
Federal Defense Union
Gallente Federation
7
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Posted - 2014.10.13 13:15:00 -
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BrundleMeth wrote:CCP please Biomass OP As Soon As Possible...
Yeah give him a fresh start |
Ruskarn Andedare
Lion Investments
571
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Posted - 2014.10.13 13:15:00 -
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Why would you want to remove the only thing that makes playing EVE worthwhile - the history? |
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