If and when CCP provides destructable stations, then we can talk about docking supercaps in them.

A super is a risky ship the way it currently is handled, a good risk imo. Allowing them to dock, not only do you remove that risk but you also transfer the risk of the ship in essence only to the production of it. Allowing them to dock should in that case also come with the ability to build them risk-free in a station.

Obviously it would also kill the business I'm in, the fact that 3rd partying became a thing is a very neat outcome of the sandbox and the result of supers not being able to dock so that type of profession would be remove/very limited with allowing them to be docked too.

However, I am fine with allowing them to dock (and get insured or whatever) - but in order to keep my profession (and all that amazing ISK obviously! ), preventing supers to be traded, put on market, contracted, stored in hangar divisions etc would allow the pilots to roam around doing things while at the same time still need people like myself to actually get them traded.

That could be an option of interest even to me.

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i agree with this allow them to dock for refitting and things but do not allow them to be traded, insured,sold on market, contracted,

also to make things more intresting only allow them to dock in SOV null, CCP should create a module for ihubs like the one needed to build them for storing them and there should also be a extra module for the station its self allowing them to be stored, however make it so this module means there cannot be other modules installed like medical centres (no JC installing) or offices (no corp hangers) make it so that if people want to use a station to dock there super then that is basically the whole purpose of that station and nothing more,

Or we can just let them dock already. Seriously, what exactly do we gain from forcing them to be permanently in space and manned by a high SP pilot?

An alternate way to solve the undock games would be to only allow supercaps to dock at conquerable 0.0 stations. Note this is not the same thing as a player-built outpost -- conquerable stations are the three stations that are seeded in every conquerable 0.0 region. For example, Deklein's conqs are VFK, 3JN9, and CZD. Currently, these stations are completely useless, having been long-obsoleted by Crius. Giving them the ability to moor supercaps would make them hugely relevant again.

Once Phoebe hits, the lore/mechanic justification that was in place to prevent capitals/supers from taking gates will be void.

This is now the time to allow supers to dock. I'm not going into a long winded post about why this is a good idea, but here are a few points:

• Super pilots are effectively trapped in their space coffin
• Supers see significantly less combat than subcapitals. When they are deployed, they rarely explode.
• Forcing supers to park in POS really doesn't lead to much more combat, outside of the rare instance of a bumped titan
• Jump fatigue makes it so supers can't bounce between stations to regen capacitor

Having so much EHP would lead to supers being able to undock and play station games, then lose aggression and redock without real risk of dying. In order to prevent this from being abused, docking rights should come with a 10-15 minute timer specifically prohibiting docking for supers, only caused by pvp aggression. If supers aggress on the undock, they would be unable to dock for 10-15 minutes.

Give us more options to engage in PVP rather than locking characters in ships that are stuck in space.

Edit: This has been brought up before, but this is considering new information from the upcoming Phoebe patch, so it is not simply a repeat thread.

Everything is OP for Anthar Tebess except his ratting carriers.

And about the docking it think the idea from HIC therd is good, if ship is pointed by HIC it can't dock. problem solved \o/

and not only supers, all of the ships.

Undock games are the explicit reason I suggested to implement a long aggression timer for docking with Supers. A 10-15 minute aggression timer would mean that a super would have to stop all aggression for 10-15 minutes before being able to dock up and do anything.

You are suggesting that we would stock up an unknown number of supers in stations, but because we currently have to use holding alts, that it's too expensive? I don't think that means what you think it means.

Also, if a coalition is stocking up on trillions of isk worth of supers in multiple stations, that is trillions of isk worth of sunk cash that provides very limited value to the coalition. I would argue that the trillions of isk worth of stockpiled supers would be more valuable distributed as regular SRP to keep all of our tens of thousands of pilots in a combat capable ship across multiple points in the warzone.

Or we can just let them dock already. Seriously, what exactly do we gain from forcing them to be permanently in space and manned by a high SP pilot?

Also consider the size of supers in comparison to stations. **** wouldn't make sense.