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Kain Negas
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Posted - 2006.08.15 16:48:00 -
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Hey all. First id like to say how ive been enjoying the game for my brief life here.
I started playing just over 2 weeks ago, i was doing some missions in 0.5 minding my own while learning the all important learning skills.
i made a little cash, got a Rifter and fitted it to the points i was doing the level one missions with ease. then i got a mission to trasport some items - a important mission, i had to buy a hauler to do this (and train the skills up) - so i set off and picked the goods up, on the way back Ginger very nicely blew my ship up and the chance of the implant. and added a pod kill.
a few days later ive done some more missions got a few implants and i have another important mission to the same place, this time i go in my frigate and try to use my afterburner through the gate up pops Mr Ginger and blows my ship away again, and my pod and my implants :(
the system hes in is the only 0.4 i have to go through and theres no way around it. i want to pvp in the end but hes been playing for 3 years and i have been playing for 2 weeks - if i was in his boots id think whats the point? there cant be any fun in sitting in a ship and podkilling a 2 week old player in 1 hit. giving me no chance at all.
i know ill get shot down from this post - its not a whine about being killed i know the risks - but my point is, is the game full of people who only joy is to sit at a gate and take away what little fun and items a 2 week old player has? His bio says Numo Uno pvper - this made me laugh - im sure in 3 years time ill beable to sit at a gate and kill 2 week old players as well, as im sure this takes lots of skill 
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Ichabod Dirange
Iscariot Enterprises
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Posted - 2006.08.15 16:52:00 -
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Don't knock it, that's how Tank CEO got started. 
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Sidd Torginn
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Posted - 2006.08.15 16:52:00 -
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This is a new and exciting topic that has never been discussed.
Also, despite your grief, namedropping is pretty lame.
Also also, he did it to you twice. In the same system. Maybe you can find a different way to get around him? And don't say there is none.
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Xaroth Brook
Minmatar
Doomcraft
R i s e
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Posted - 2006.08.15 16:52:00 -
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If you know how to avoid them you won't have a problem with them at all, by the time your ready you can go look em up again.
My advise, switch agent to somewhere else, get to a system where there's a level 1 and 2 agent of the same corp there, and do missions for them.. (And make sure there's no 0.4 or lower around it).. that way you don't have to deal with pirates unless you want to.
But to answer your question.. yes, a lot of pirates LOVE to camp gates for easy kills... trust me, you'll see many more of them before you reach 6 months playtime 
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Xaroth Brook
Brainiac of Doomcraft
Member of R I S E
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Maya Rkell
Sebiestor tribe
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Posted - 2006.08.15 16:53:00 -
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Ginger is very well known for doing this. Tell the locals and a lynch mob will usually go for him.
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Acerus Malum
Encina Technologies
Namtz'aar k'in
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Posted - 2006.08.15 16:53:00 -
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 Originally by: Kain Negas
there cant be any fun in sitting in a ship and podkilling a 2 week old player in 1 hit. giving me no chance at all.
You're right, it's not. Hopefully that's consolation enough.
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Gericault m0id
Gallente Mercantile Exchange
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Posted - 2006.08.15 16:54:00 -
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Ginger, stop it with the alts already!
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Avernus
Gallente
Imperium Technologies
Firmus Ixion
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Posted - 2006.08.15 16:55:00 -
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Ginger is something of a self declared pvp God... everyone else just chuckles and pats him on the head. As Maya says, Ginger isn't very popular, you should be able to get a lynch mob together with some effort.
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nahtoh
Caldari
Bull Industries
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Posted - 2006.08.15 16:55:00 -
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Yup easy kills are what hes ater, as the other poster said some peeps just attack newbies...and ginger is probaly one of the worst examples...
On the other hand his threads can very funny, in the pointing and laughing at him sense 
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Price Watcher
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Posted - 2006.08.15 16:56:00 -
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Originally by: Kain Negas
is the game full of people who only joy is to sit at a gate and take away what little fun and items a 2 week old player has?
Umm, yes. yes it is. You need to be aware of that and plan accordingly.
Try to find another agent that is at least 4 jumps away from 0.4 and below. Agents will rarely send you more than 4 jumps, except for cargo missions.
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Hans Roaming
Body Count Inc.
Mercenary Coalition
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Posted - 2006.08.15 16:57:00 -
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Add him to your address book and you can see when he is online or not, when he's not go to that system and warp from the other gate to the one you normallt see him camping. When you come out of warp travel in a straight line until you've gone roughly 12km past the gate. This means when you look back at where you warped from the gate should be in line with that object and 12km away from you. At this point make a bookmark and in future warp to that as it means you come out of warp in jump range of the gate, whilst in warp also turn autopilot on as that will instantly jump you.
Doing the above for the other gates in that .4 will see you got safely through that system until you get to the point of trainign a covert ops skill and have a friend in a stilleto with -6 scrambling strength to pay Ginger a visit at his sniping spot.
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Brastagi
Caldari
g guild
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Posted - 2006.08.15 16:57:00 -
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Well sorry to hear that, but this is how PvP goes. In Lineage2 and WoW, you get high lvl PK running around in newbies area. Probably the only way you can get around it, is learn how to survived in low sec. Or change location, they don't make this game with huge universe for nothing.
Be sure there are other pirates and people (who suspect alt) would happily kill and pod newbies in low sec.
And no, 3 year old player isn't invincible. Have him ganked, webbed, scrambled, and nossed you get yourself a kill. Ever seen a battleship getting downed by swarms of frigates?
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Bhaal
Minmatar
M. Corp
Lotka Volterra
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Posted - 2006.08.15 16:57:00 -
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Quote:
Also, despite your grief, namedropping is pretty lame.
Why?
Are some ppl playing this game afraid of being held accountable in any way?
Name & Shame is the Name of the Game as far as I'm concerned...
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Death Kill
Caldari
direkte
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Posted - 2006.08.15 16:58:00 -
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Originally by: Kain Negas
rubbish
Stop trying to make a name for yourself/revive
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Kain Negas
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Posted - 2006.08.15 17:01:00 -
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i used the map option and set the route to safest first but the only way i could get through was through the one 0.4 system.
usualy it doesnt send me under 0.5 but twice ive had to go into this one system and twice hes been sat there waiting - im not sure if i should be ****ed off - happy for the lesson - or feel sorry for the life he must live 
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Kain Negas
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Posted - 2006.08.15 17:05:00 -
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the system is Hagilur.
my agent is in Hek - im not sure how i ended up with the agent, it was just by following the tutorial/story agents
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Franky B
Mentally Unstable Enterprises
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Posted - 2006.08.15 17:08:00 -
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I can say very much that kain is real.
considering I had to help with the mopping up :p
as for the ganking. well live and learn really. now you know what not to do, tis very easy to avoid being ganked by pirates such as ginger once you get a hold of the ropes.
and please note to the people who didnt buy a clue and kept warping in at the gate for ginger to kill... cmon.
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Sen Tzue
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Posted - 2006.08.15 17:10:00 -
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Kain Negas,
What you are describing is a typical part of any PVP environment. Eve might be unique in not coming up with ways to seperate the PVP-ready from the unready, but in any game there is a certain percentage of PVPers who get their kicks from killing noobs etc. It happens, eventually you'll be able to fight back and then you wont see them any more since that is exactly what they don't want.
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Leilani Solaris
Gallente
0utbreak
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Posted - 2006.08.15 17:12:00 -
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El Oh El
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Sorja
E X O D U S
Imperial Republic Of the North
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Posted - 2006.08.15 17:18:00 -
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Originally by: Xaroth Brook
... by the time your ready you can go look em [pirates] up again.
Been there, done that: they run or blob. Pointless.
I don't quite see the point of 0.1 - 0.4 tbh, it could just be removed IMO. Empire and 0.0 is all we need. Lowsec is just giving lamers easy kills.
My apologies to any genuine pirate this could offend (you know, the type who ransom) but AFAIK most have long left the game.
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Posted - 2006.08.15 17:52:00 -
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Originally by: Bhaal
Quote:
Also, despite your grief, namedropping is pretty lame.
Why?
Are some ppl playing this game afraid of being held accountable in any way?
Name & Shame is the Name of the Game as far as I'm concerned...
QFT. Plus, everyone already knows the ALMIGHTY UBER PVPer that Ginger is. You drop that name and everyone BOOooooOOOOO....
Anyways, there are ways around this. Someone with healthy fingers can tell him. I'll get it started, use your alt to make bookmarks/scout before you go in. He'll most likely pod kill your alt too, but its no biggy.
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Wrayeth
Inexorable Retribution
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Posted - 2006.08.15 17:56:00 -
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I was going to post a flame here, but it seems everyone else has already said everything regarding Ginger Magician that I would've said. That being the case, I'll just...
-Wrayeth
"Look, pa! I just contributed absolutely nothing to this thread!"
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Mordechai Grey
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Posted - 2006.08.15 18:02:00 -
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He's been hanging around Hagilur for the last few days, popped me and my pod the other day. I did have time to "lol" between the two, though I wish I had time to ask him if he had any small tractor BPOs I could get on the cheap.
Using a megathron with tech II 425s and I would assume a rack of stabs and a rack of sensor boosters.
Take Hans advice and make instas for now, and get payback later when you can.
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Tran Quility
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Posted - 2006.08.15 18:14:00 -
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It is unfortunately one of the N00b learning curves of Eve. I think almost everyone has been popped by a 'Ginger Magician' (GM) type pirate in low sec, in their time. If not then they have been very lucky or are an alt.
Although I do not condone the actions I must admit it is an easy way of getting some nice mods. Several times I have sat in Hagilur and watched GM pass the time & pod and when he wasn't looking, sneakily looked in the cans. Very tempting to help one's self I must admit but a theif I am not... well until today when GM caught me helping myself to mods from a can of his.  I would have got away with it if it hadn't been for those pesky 'flashing red' give aways...
Anyways, Book mark / instas are the way ahead for crossing Hagilur and similar systems until N00b skills improve. Every day is a school day in Eve and this is an example of one such vertical learning curve, sad as it may be 
Fly safe...
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Traxio Nacho
Sharks With Frickin' Laser Beams
Mercenary Coalition
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Posted - 2006.08.15 18:58:00 -
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What you need to do is learn how to fly ravens then you will be able to kill him and scramble him with your torps
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Tran Quility
Minmatar
S x 3
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Posted - 2006.08.15 19:15:00 -
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Edited by: Tran Quility on 15/08/2006 19:15:00
My lovely Sig 
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Tran Quility
Minmatar
S x 3
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Posted - 2006.08.15 19:25:00 -
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My Sig... Hope this is correct Cortes?
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Mordechai Grey
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Posted - 2006.08.15 20:01:00 -
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Originally by: Traxio Nacho
What you need to do is learn how to fly ravens then you will be able to kill him and scramble him with your torps
Actually that was the other thing I would have been inclined to mention.
Ravenscrambletorps > Gingerstabs
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Christopher Dalran
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Posted - 2006.08.15 21:00:00 -
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Send me an Email ingame with the following details (some you already said but i would like it in an ingame email just to make sure)
1. The person who podded you
2. What ship they were in
3. The style of attack they used (ex, 120km gatecamp sniper)
4. The system name you were podded in
Email those and I will go out there with 5 or 6 people and remove him for you. I guarantee he will come back but i'll camp out there for a while and atleast get some sort of revenge for you.
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Durindana
Gallente
Solar Wind
Distant Star Alliance
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Posted - 2006.08.15 21:03:00 -
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Originally by: Traxio Nacho
What you need to do is learn how to fly ravens then you will be able to kill him and scramble him with your torps
LOL
Best post by far
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