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Angry Alt	Posted - 2006.08.20 16:59:00 - [31] Originally by: 000Hunter000 Let people leave, tbh i think i liked eve better when it wasn't so crowded and people were more friendly in empire space If u are leaving u can offcourse escrow me ur stuff, just send me an evemail if u have Some people may leave because of 'this' incident, but many will stay. It is the frequency that this is happeninig that will cause people to leave. You pay for a game that's up 23/7, why not expect the same?
hendo001 Caldari Quantum Tech Mining	Posted - 2006.08.20 16:59:00 - [32] Originally by: Fuujin Yeah CCP! we want our 50 cents back! %#$%@ Boy i hope this thread gets locked by the devs soon. yeah i hope so too its fueling the fire of the trolls. leave em be and ignore them, maybe they will quit eve too and then the servers will be fine QTM is currently recruiting miners and haulers convo me or send an evemail in game Visit our forums Linkage Link removed - Wrangler
hendo001 Caldari Quantum Tech Mining	Posted - 2006.08.20 17:01:00 - [33] Originally by: Angry Alt Originally by: 000Hunter000 Let people leave, tbh i think i liked eve better when it wasn't so crowded and people were more friendly in empire space If u are leaving u can offcourse escrow me ur stuff, just send me an evemail if u have Some people may leave because of 'this' incident, but many will stay. It is the frequency that this is happeninig that will cause people to leave. You pay for a game that's up 23/7, why not expect the same? well tbh the server still trains our skills even though its down. Hopefully with the dragon patch it might help with the server crashes....... Hopefully... QTM is currently recruiting miners and haulers convo me or send an evemail in game Visit our forums Linkage Link removed - Wrangler
Angry Alt	Posted - 2006.08.20 17:04:00 - [34] Edited by: Angry Alt on 20/08/2006 17:06:13 Originally by: Fuujin Edited by: Fuujin on 20/08/2006 16:59:28 Edited by: Fuujin on 20/08/2006 16:58:14 Yeah CCP! we want our 50 cents back! %#$%@ Boy i hope this thread gets locked by the devs soon. Below average service? Because you crashed a few times and missed maybe an hour or two of gameplay this month? Be realistic here, if it had been several days then you'd have a reason to complain. Are you that bored at home thatyou have nothing else to complain about? How long have you been there, I've been ehre since beta 4 and after retail we had much bigger issues then the server crashing a few times a month. Markets being down for over a day for one, extreme lag another, CONSTANT crashes a third. Get over it, it's much nicer now. Just another bump in the road. Oh how I wish it was as simple as "few times and missed maybe an hour or two of gameplay this month". It has lately been much more. When paying for a service you expect delivery. Because it's an MMO doesn't make it special. Uptime is key to running any business. When EVE is down, it literally costs players money for that time. EVE is not unlike other businesses, and playtime should be maintained as expected (and paid for).
Matthew Caldari BloodStar Technologies	Posted - 2006.08.20 17:05:00 - [35] Originally by: Angry Alt If I can't play for a day or two a month, that costs me money wiht no service and CCP still get's the money. Would 'enter company name here' do business if they paid for 30-31 days of service and got 28-29 days worth? It's a case of "you get what you pay for". Business-grade services cost a lot more because that sort of reliability is required. Your average home consumer would not pay enough to supply a business-grade service, so they are provided with a cheaper service, with a lower reliability. It's a model that's seen in practically every service industry, and many goods industries too. If you want a version of Eve with 5-nines reliability (99.999%, the sort of thing serious businesses pay through the nose for), then you'd probably need subs to go up to ú100+ per month. I can't see many people signing up for that server. Originally by: Angry Alt Some people may leave because of 'this' incident, but many will stay. It is the frequency that this is happeninig that will cause people to leave. You pay for a game that's up 23/7, why not expect the same? You should read the EULA/Terms of Service again. You are not paying for a service with 23/7 uptime. ------- There is no magic Wand of Fixing, and it is not powered by forum whines.
Jim McGregor Caldari	Posted - 2006.08.20 17:06:00 - [36] Originally by: Sharkbait we are sry about the current server issues and they are being looked into. we are doing everything possible and they will be resolved asap. once again sry I think you guys are almost too nice sometimes...some "customers" doesnt deserve to be treated with respect if they cant act respectfully themselfs. Yes, Eve has stability problems, but people cant really ask for more than devs working hard on fixing it. I know you will solve it, its just a matter of time. --- Eve Wiki \| Eve Tribune \| Eve Pirate
Fuujin Hadean Drive Yards	Posted - 2006.08.20 17:07:00 - [37] As someone pointed out, go to your account details and cacel, do it now. But i know you wont, you're only here to whine whine and whine in the hopes that magically they can fix this issue in the next 10 min. Guess what, we all want that, some of us however have a little intelligence and patience. CCP said they're working on it, they didn't say "suck it up cupcake and deal with it", they apologized for the inconveniece and hope to have it fixed as soon as they can. So do or do not and stop whining. _______________ The sword has to be more than a simple weapon; it has to be an answer to life's questions
nahtoh Caldari Bull Industries	Posted - 2006.08.20 17:10:00 - [38] Originally by: Angry Alt Originally by: 000Hunter000 Let people leave, tbh i think i liked eve better when it wasn't so crowded and people were more friendly in empire space If u are leaving u can offcourse escrow me ur stuff, just send me an evemail if u have Some people may leave because of 'this' incident, but many will stay. It is the frequency that this is happeninig that will cause people to leave. You pay for a game that's up 23/7, why not expect the same? Theres the door naff off if it annoys you that much... Stuff breaks sometimes and sometimes it not easy to find and fix it...deal with it or don't, the choice is yours... ========= "I am not saying there should be capital punishment for stupidity, but why can`t we just take the safety labels off everything and let the problem fix its self
Hellspawn01 Amarr	Posted - 2006.08.20 17:11:00 - [39] I¦m playing eve for nearly 3 years now. What are some hours without eve in all that time compared to the flawless time when it ran without any trouble? If you leave, say goodbye, donate your stuff to some small dude and cancel your subscribtion. No point in asking if someone will leave cuz if they did, then they wont read this anyway I¦m gonna stay till the server burns down. Ship lovers click here
Qahlan	Posted - 2006.08.20 17:13:00 - [40] Originally by: Matthew Originally by: Angry Alt If I can't play for a day or two a month, that costs me money wiht no service and CCP still get's the money. Would 'enter company name here' do business if they paid for 30-31 days of service and got 28-29 days worth? It's a case of "you get what you pay for". Business-grade services cost a lot more because that sort of reliability is required. Your average home consumer would not pay enough to supply a business-grade service, so they are provided with a cheaper service, with a lower reliability. It's a model that's seen in practically every service industry, and many goods industries too. If you want a version of Eve with 5-nines reliability (99.999%, the sort of thing serious businesses pay through the nose for), then you'd probably need subs to go up to ú100+ per month. I can't see many people signing up for that server. Originally by: Angry Alt Some people may leave because of 'this' incident, but many will stay. It is the frequency that this is happeninig that will cause people to leave. You pay for a game that's up 23/7, why not expect the same? You should read the EULA/Terms of Service again. You are not paying for a service with 23/7 uptime. Well said. Overall I would say the balance between price and quality is pretty ok. However ... Some of the old timers have told me they been trough several problem periods like the one we had a while back. It would be nice to see them get something for being loyal and sticking with eve. Some nice new little ingame toy that one could only use with high level skills, hard to get ships or something else you do not easely get on accounts under a year or a year and a half old. And for those who find this unfair to newer players. Well if we stick with it we can get to use that same toy too. Right.
hendo001 Caldari Quantum Tech Mining	Posted - 2006.08.20 17:13:00 - [41] Originally by: Hellspawn01 I¦m playing eve for nearly 3 years now. What are some hours without eve in all that time compared to the flawless time when it ran without any trouble? If you leave, say goodbye, donate your stuff to some small dude and cancel your subscribtion. No point in asking if someone will leave cuz if they did, then they wont read this anyway I¦m gonna stay till the server burns down. LOL i'll stay as long as eve is still running, my only regret is not starting the game sooner QTM is currently recruiting miners and haulers convo me or send an evemail in game Visit our forums Linkage Link removed - Wrangler
Captain Hudson	Posted - 2006.08.20 17:14:00 - [42] i for one have not had a bad time with the crashes because i seem to keep missing them when im logged off which is a good thing i guess. But if you think this is bad wait for patch day/week mate
keiichi chan	Posted - 2006.08.20 17:14:00 - [43] Im not leaving because of the recently Server Crashes, im just leaving for a while cuz, eve dosent work anymore with Cedega :/
Jim McGregor Caldari	Posted - 2006.08.20 17:15:00 - [44] Edited by: Jim McGregor on 20/08/2006 17:15:41 Originally by: Qahlan However ... Some of the old timers have told me they been trough several problem periods like the one we had a while back. It would be nice to see them get something for being loyal and sticking with eve. Some nice new little ingame toy that one could only use with high level skills, hard to get ships or something else you do not easely get on accounts under a year or a year and a half old. And for those who find this unfair to newer players. Well if we stick with it we can get to use that same toy too. Right. Right. Give presents to the whiners...you think they are staying as a nice gesture to ccp? No. They are staying because they love the game. Seriously, if Eve isnt reward enough, I suggest they leave the game. --- Eve Wiki \| Eve Tribune \| Eve Pirate
Angry Alt	Posted - 2006.08.20 17:15:00 - [45] Originally by: Matthew Originally by: Angry Alt If I can't play for a day or two a month, that costs me money wiht no service and CCP still get's the money. Would 'enter company name here' do business if they paid for 30-31 days of service and got 28-29 days worth? It's a case of "you get what you pay for". Business-grade services cost a lot more because that sort of reliability is required. Your average home consumer would not pay enough to supply a business-grade service, so they are provided with a cheaper service, with a lower reliability. It's a model that's seen in practically every service industry, and many goods industries too. If you want a version of Eve with 5-nines reliability (99.999%, the sort of thing serious businesses pay through the nose for), then you'd probably need subs to go up to ú100+ per month. I can't see many people signing up for that server. Originally by: Angry Alt Some people may leave because of 'this' incident, but many will stay. It is the frequency that this is happeninig that will cause people to leave. You pay for a game that's up 23/7, why not expect the same? You should read the EULA/Terms of Service again. You are not paying for a service with 23/7 uptime. I'm quite familiar with the EULA, thank you. I and everyone else pays for a service. What would you say is EVE is only open ONE day a month? Hypothetical and extreme for sure but it could possibly happen. Would you pay for 1/30 of the service that you should be getting? If the service that WE ARE paying for is down so regularly (not including scheduled DT), why should we all pay the same? We know about scheduled DT, and that's fine. It's the unscheduled DT that robs us of money. If we can't login when we want to (during non-DT hours), what's the point of paying full price? Lately, DT has been random and frequent, yet nothing has been done to fix the fundamental problems with the game.
Fuujin Hadean Drive Yards	Posted - 2006.08.20 17:17:00 - [46] Why are you still here? _______________ The sword has to be more than a simple weapon; it has to be an answer to life's questions
Pardack Caldari State War Academy	Posted - 2006.08.20 17:19:00 - [47] Edited by: Pardack on 20/08/2006 17:19:28
Jim McGregor Caldari	Posted - 2006.08.20 17:19:00 - [48] Originally by: Angry Alt I'm quite familiar with the EULA, thank you. I and everyone else pays for a service. What would you say is EVE is only open ONE day a month? Hypothetical and extreme for sure but it could possibly happen. Would you pay for 1/30 of the service that you should be getting? If the service that WE ARE paying for is down so regularly (not including scheduled DT), why should we all pay the same? We know about scheduled DT, and that's fine. It's the unscheduled DT that robs us of money. If we can't login when we want to (during non-DT hours), what's the point of paying full price? Lately, DT has been random and frequent, yet nothing has been done to fix the fundamental problems with the game. They already have people working around the clock to fix this (probably). What else do you want? Are you seriously going to request a few dollars back because you couldnt play the game when you wanted? Do you have any idea how childish that is? You think mmorpg's are like renting a car or something? You dont seem to realize the difference. You probably dont think there should even be a difference. But there is, and always will be. Computer games like this are extreamly complicated and you really need to have some patience and understanding when it comes to things like this. Or quit. --- Eve Wiki \| Eve Tribune \| Eve Pirate
Edvard Godspeed Caldari Deep Core Mining Inc.	Posted - 2006.08.20 17:28:00 - [49] Originally by: Angry Alt I'm quite familiar with the EULA, thank you. I and everyone else pays for a service. What would you say is EVE is only open ONE day a month? Hypothetical and extreme for sure but it could possibly happen. Would you pay for 1/30 of the service that you should be getting? If the service that WE ARE paying for is down so regularly (not including scheduled DT), why should we all pay the same? We know about scheduled DT, and that's fine. It's the unscheduled DT that robs us of money. If we can't login when we want to (during non-DT hours), what's the point of paying full price? Lately, DT has been random and frequent, yet nothing has been done to fix the fundamental problems with the game and we still pay the same price for less service. I think you're only familiar with that an EULA exist. Let me help you Originally by: EULA NO WARRANTIES The Software, System, Game and all Game Content, and all other services and material provided in connection therewith, are provided "AS IS," with all faults, and without warranty of any kind. You assume all risk of use and all risk associated with accessing the System and playing the Game. CCP disclaims all warranties, whether express or implied, including without limitation the warranties of merchantability, fitness for particular purpose and non-infringement. There is no warranty against interference with your enjoyment of the Game. CCP does not warrant that the operation of the System or your access to the System, or that your use of the Software, will be uninterrupted or error-free, nor that the System or Software will be compatible with your hardware and software. While CCP attempts to have the System available at most times, CCP does not guarantee that the System will always be available, or that the System will not become unavailable during Game play. The System may become unavailable for a number of reasons, including without limitation during the performance of maintenance to the System, for the implementation of new software, for emergency situations and due to equipment or telecommunications failures. If you feel robbed cause of a few server problems then you should stay out of MMORPGS in general, they are probablty not your type of game.
Hydrian Alante The Loot Company	Posted - 2006.08.20 17:28:00 - [50] Hm I lost nothing due to recent crashes. But even then... I¦m just to addicted.
Angry Alt	Posted - 2006.08.20 17:30:00 - [51] Edited by: Angry Alt on 20/08/2006 17:31:39 Originally by: Jim McGregor Originally by: Angry Alt I'm quite familiar with the EULA, thank you. I and everyone else pays for a service. What would you say is EVE is only open ONE day a month? Hypothetical and extreme for sure but it could possibly happen. Would you pay for 1/30 of the service that you should be getting? If the service that WE ARE paying for is down so regularly (not including scheduled DT), why should we all pay the same? We know about scheduled DT, and that's fine. It's the unscheduled DT that robs us of money. If we can't login when we want to (during non-DT hours), what's the point of paying full price? Lately, DT has been random and frequent, yet nothing has been done to fix the fundamental problems with the game. They already have people working around the clock to fix this (probably). What else do you want? Are you seriously going to request a few dollars back because you couldnt play the game when you wanted? Do you have any idea how childish that is? You think mmorpg's are like renting a car or something? You dont seem to realize the difference. You probably dont think there should even be a difference. But there is, and always will be. Computer games like this are extreamly complicated and you really need to have some patience and understanding when it comes to things like this. Or quit. I don't want any money back, how childish is that? LOL @ your post. Complicated or not, CCP agrees to provide service to player, since that isn't happening on a daily basis and that is not happening. Not even close. Complicated? I think not, EVE was running fine a few months ago with less players. It's the fact that CCP doesn't face the fact that they have to do major re-structing of the game and client, and that for whatever reason is hindering progress. Stop coding now and improve on performance. It will retain current players and encourage new players. Hiding behind excuses and partial posts won't fix the fundamental player problem. People will keep coming. Fix the structural and performance problems before anything else.
Jim McGregor Caldari	Posted - 2006.08.20 17:34:00 - [52] Edited by: Jim McGregor on 20/08/2006 17:34:34 Originally by: Angry Alt It's the fact that CCP doesn't face the face that they have to do major re-structing of the game and client, and that for whatever reason is hindering progress. Stop coding now and improve on performance. It will retain current players and encourage new players. Hiding behind excuses and partial posts won't fix the fundamental player problem. People will keep coming. Fix the structural and performance problems before anything else. Yes, of course you know better than the creators of the game what needs to be done in this situation. You are like a backseat driver that cant stop giving advice without even having a drivers license. Seriously, you are getting on my nerves...I really dont understand how you can think for a second that you know better than the devs what needs to be done. I dont get it. --- Eve Wiki \| Eve Tribune \| Eve Pirate
Itzena Amarr OtakuDyne Corporation	Posted - 2006.08.20 17:41:00 - [53] Originally by: Jim McGregor Leaving as "revenge" is pretty stupid.. the only one losing out is you. :) Soon Eve will be back to normal im sure. No, I'm pretty sure CCP is losing out on the monthly subs money as well. -- I want my people to reclaim their rightful place in the galaxy... I want a rebirth of glory, a renaissance of power... I want us to be what we used to be.
Jim McGregor Caldari	Posted - 2006.08.20 17:43:00 - [54] Originally by: Itzena Originally by: Jim McGregor Leaving as "revenge" is pretty stupid.. the only one losing out is you. :) Soon Eve will be back to normal im sure. No, I'm pretty sure CCP is losing out on the monthly subs money as well. Im sure they survive. --- Eve Wiki \| Eve Tribune \| Eve Pirate
oniplE	Posted - 2006.08.20 17:46:00 - [55] Originally by: Amerame Get real, 15$ a month to play a MMO, you'd get 2, say 3 beers for that price. The problem is that you'd need to get 100 ou 200$ a month to satisfy the loudest whiners and for this price no one would be playing. 1 or 2 days a month of unavailability is quite acceptable I think, and quite average for the MMO's industry. 5$-7.5$ for one beer? Thats just.. horrible..i'd call the police and file a complaint for beer crimes against humanity..
Argenton Sayvers	Posted - 2006.08.20 18:18:00 - [56] Reading this thread, i decided that i have been wasting my live. I should really be coding bugged messes of MMORPGs. People seem to actually enjoy getting kicked in the face. I really start to understand why WoW is such a success now. People on drugs lose all self-respect. I just cannot believe that in a thread were a dev had the courage to apologize for unacceptable level of service, there is still so much slime. Thanks for letting me know that world domination is still possible - there are more then enough people willing to sell their soul and their dignity ;)
Jim McGregor Caldari	Posted - 2006.08.20 18:20:00 - [57] Originally by: Argenton Sayvers Reading this thread, i decided that i have been wasting my live. I should really be coding bugged messes of MMORPGs. People seem to actually enjoy getting kicked in the face. I really start to understand why WoW is such a success now. People on drugs lose all self-respect. I just cannot believe that in a thread were a dev had the courage to apologize for unacceptable level of service, there is still so much slime. Thanks for letting me know that world domination is still possible - there are more then enough people willing to sell their soul and their dignity ;) I have no idea what you are saying.. but maybe its for the best. :) --- Eve Wiki \| Eve Tribune \| Eve Pirate
Matthew Caldari BloodStar Technologies	Posted - 2006.08.20 18:25:00 - [58] Originally by: Argenton Sayvers Reading this thread, i decided that i have been wasting my live. I should really be coding bugged messes of MMORPGs. People seem to actually enjoy getting kicked in the face. I really start to understand why WoW is such a success now. People on drugs lose all self-respect. I just cannot believe that in a thread were a dev had the courage to apologize for unacceptable level of service, there is still so much slime. Thanks for letting me know that world domination is still possible - there are more then enough people willing to sell their soul and their dignity ;) Maybe it's because they do keep us informed, do apologise, and do work hard to fix things, that people are prepared to defend them against angry rants? There is a world of difference between problems occuring despite people doing the best, and problems occuring because people can't be bothered. ------- There is no magic Wand of Fixing, and it is not powered by forum whines.
Argenton Sayvers	Posted - 2006.08.20 18:36:00 - [59] Edited by: Argenton Sayvers on 20/08/2006 18:37:46 The OP was rather civil compared to the problems eve is currently facing. Server crashes + GM situation + lag + bugs. For a rant to be inapropriate in this situation, it would have to include death threats to the devs. There is a relationship between devs and customers - without them no eve, without us noone who would share their vision (or pay for it). I am part of it, as is the OP, and every whiner here. I and many others feel that the service right now (on many levels, not just server crashes as i they dont really affect me much) is terrible enough to warrant angry complaints. Without them, how are the devs going to know for sure that people dont think "its a problem, like stabs and instas" but "its a problem, fix it NOW, or its no longer worth it at all". Without preasure, no improvement. And the devs dont exactly look like whiney psychos who jump of a bridge when you say that wow is better then eve. If you really want to help them, do something useful. So stop anti-whining, and go do something useful, like bughunting on the testserver.
2TiCs	Posted - 2006.08.20 18:36:00 - [60] Quote: Are you leaving because of server crashes? Leave the mmorpg with best comunication between players and devs I've played, because they can't fix everything at once? Not a ******* chance.

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