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Jeremy Allign
The Scope Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2014.10.26 20:42:53 -
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I have been thinking of becoming a carrier pilot (Thanatos) but the only uses i have seen carriers being used for is PVP and Ratting in rented nullsec space. Other than those, what are the uses for a carrier? |

Yang Aurilen
The Mjolnir Bloc The Bloc
498
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Posted - 2014.10.26 20:45:00 -
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Titan bait.
Post with your NPC alt main and not your main main alt!
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Ima Wreckyou
The Conference Elite CODE.
365
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Posted - 2014.10.26 20:52:07 -
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Content for non-solo players
the Code ALWAYS wins
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Gonzo Liberace
ReallyPissedOff Guinea Pigs
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Posted - 2014.10.26 20:55:23 -
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I came to this thread and left agreeing with somebody from code. 'tf? |

Abrazzar
Vardaugas Family
4986
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Posted - 2014.10.26 20:55:28 -
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Don't forget to fit expanded cargoholds for all your honour.
Sovereignty and Population
New Mining Mechanics
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Kaarous Aldurald
ROC Deep Space The ROC
10303
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Posted - 2014.10.26 20:55:52 -
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Ima Wreckyou wrote:Content for non-solo players
Note, this does not strictly require a carrier.
"Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."
One of ours, ten of theirs.
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Jessica Duranin
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
278
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Posted - 2014.10.26 21:00:21 -
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Carriers are fleet (support) ships. Using them solo usually ends with hilarious killmails. |

Kalishka Ashkulf
BUMP POW
55
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Posted - 2014.10.26 21:02:51 -
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Jeremy Allign wrote:I have been thinking of becoming a carrier pilot (Thanatos) but the only uses i have seen carriers being used for is PVP and Ratting in rented nullsec space. Other than those, what are the uses for a carrier?
If you're going to fly a professional carrier, ALWAYS fly with an escort. Even in Highsec, someone will come along and poke your ribs. 
Be sure you are secure enough to see the funny side of such events haha x
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ShahFluffers
Ice Fire Warriors Late Night Alliance
6404
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Posted - 2014.10.26 21:24:05 -
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If you can get some support (or a trusted friend who can light a cynosaural field) then you can use a carrier as "pick-up truck" for moving your ships and some assortment of mods/ammo.
Outside of that, it is...
- a fleet support ship (see: force multiplier) - ratting ship (though, there are other ships that are cheaper and can largely do the same thing) - a big, expensive target.
Change isn't bad, but it isn't always good. Sometimes, the oldest and most simple of things can be the most elegant and effective.
"How did you veterans start?"
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Hasikan Miallok
Republic University Minmatar Republic
1157
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Posted - 2014.10.26 22:18:29 -
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Kalishka Ashkulf wrote:Jeremy Allign wrote:I have been thinking of becoming a carrier pilot (Thanatos) but the only uses i have seen carriers being used for is PVP and Ratting in rented nullsec space. Other than those, what are the uses for a carrier? If you're going to fly a professional carrier, ALWAYS fly with an escort. Even in Highsec, someone will come along and poke your ribs.  Be sure you are secure enough to see the funny side of such events haha x
You haz a hisec carrier ? |

Lady Spank
Get Out Nasty Face FEARLESS.
3772
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Posted - 2014.10.26 22:50:58 -
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If you can't think of a use for it yourself, you probably shouldn't waste your time training into one.
(a¦á_a¦â) ~ It Takes a Million Years to Become Diamonds So Lets Just Burn Like Coal Until the Sky's Black ~ (a¦á_a¦â)
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Caviar Liberta
Moira. Villore Accords
730
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Posted - 2014.10.26 23:31:06 -
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Gonzo Liberace wrote:I came to this thread and left agreeing with somebody from code. 'tf?
Something to do with a broken clock. |

Skydell
Bad Girl Posse Somethin Awfull Forums
633
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Posted - 2014.10.27 01:17:11 -
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They make good bookmarks for people who travel using the Asset window. |

Mithandra
Serene Vendetta Brawls Deep
208
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Posted - 2014.10.27 09:58:26 -
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Jeremy Allign wrote:I have been thinking of becoming a carrier pilot (Thanatos) but the only uses i have seen carriers being used for is PVP and Ratting in rented nullsec space. Other than those, what are the uses for a carrier?
Bumping up wormhole corporation killboard stats?
Eve is the dark haired, totally hot emo gothchild of the gaming community
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Cebraio
4S Corporation Goonswarm Federation
444
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Posted - 2014.10.27 10:44:17 -
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Carriers are great to move your fitted ships around.
If you are a POS owner, you could also keep a triage carrier around to repair your POS, but chances are good that attackers will blow you up when you go into triage. Triage carrriers are great for repairing themselves or something else, but their tank will eventually break (for example if under capacitor warfare pressure) and they do not have any offensive capabilities when in triage.
Apart from that there is no reason to have a carrier solo. In combat they only perform well in groups. |

Robert Caldera
Caldera Trading and Investment
759
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Posted - 2014.10.27 11:06:58 -
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a lame use of a carrier in 0.0 is putting it on a pos shield edge and assigning fighters to another ship for omgwtfbbq dps. but one should be careful with this kind of fun, the carrier could quickly become target for a hotdrop, has to be able to quickly re-enter pos forcefield. |
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Chribba
Otherworld Enterprises Otherworld Empire
13067
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Posted - 2014.10.27 12:37:29 -
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What no one even suggested mining yet... MINING!
DCU's in high = many mining drones!
/c
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Abrazzar
Vardaugas Family
4989
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Posted - 2014.10.27 12:49:01 -
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Chribba wrote:What no one even suggested mining yet... MINING!
DCU's in high = many mining drones!
/c Yield like a barge with 50 times the EHPs. This will be the end game for high-sec mining when carriers are allowed there. [Nidhoggur, Nomnoms] Expanded Cargohold II Expanded Cargohold II Damage Control II Co-Processor II Co-Processor II Power Diagnostic System II
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Drone Control Unit I Drone Control Unit I Drone Control Unit I Drone Control Unit I Drone Control Unit I
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Nobax
Green Skull LLC
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Posted - 2014.10.27 12:55:57 -
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Do this:
https://zkillboard.com/kill/41965615/ |

Brock Kraven
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2014.10.27 14:08:42 -
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You could always sit your carrier at the POS and distribute fighters to your mining fleet
3 mackinaws with 5 fighters each...the belt rats will never see it coming
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Jenn aSide
Smokin Aces.
8753
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Posted - 2014.10.27 14:16:04 -
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Robert Caldera wrote:a lame use of a carrier in 0.0 is putting it on a pos shield edge and assigning fighters to another ship for omgwtfbbq dps. but one should be careful with this kind of fun, the carrier could quickly become target for a hotdrop, has to be able to quickly re-enter pos forcefield.
What is this, 2009 (prior to the fighter nerf)?
Someone hasn't been to null lately, using assigned fighters sucks compared to having the carrier on grid where the fighters actually get bonuses from the carrier (unless you use a ship with mutiple target painters, but the you still have the tracking issues and the fighters need to move and orbit). Unbonused fighters (which is what assigned fighters are) suck against anything that isn't a battleship. If you are ratting in a BS, regular heavy drones (or mixed Gecko flights, in angel space 2 geckos, 2 Valkyries and a warrior is magic) are much much better.
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Jean Luc Lemmont
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2014.10.27 14:24:34 -
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ShahFluffers wrote:If you can get some support (or a trusted friend who can light a cynosaural field) then you can use a carrier as "pick-up truck" for moving your ships and some assortment of mods/ammo.
The problem with this is, of course, the same problem owners of pickup trucks have in real life. Once you have one, everyone else wants your help moving.
A bitter vet trying to start anew.
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Jeremy Allign
The Scope Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2014.10.27 15:01:55 -
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That is amazing, a mining Thanatos killed by Ventures! |

ShahFluffers
Ice Fire Warriors Late Night Alliance
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Posted - 2014.10.27 15:15:01 -
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Madre de dios. 
Change isn't bad, but it isn't always good. Sometimes, the oldest and most simple of things can be the most elegant and effective.
"How did you veterans start?"
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Ralph King-Griffin
Lords.Of.Midnight The Devil's Warrior Alliance
6190
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Posted - 2014.10.27 15:18:47 -
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bookmarking that for a good laugh with the corpies later
"I'm also quite confident that you are laughing
and it's the kind of laugh that gives normal people shivers."
=]I[=
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Jean Luc Lemmont
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
133
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Posted - 2014.10.27 15:28:28 -
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Jeremy Allign wrote:That is amazing, a mining Thanatos killed by Ventures!
They were putting that carrier out of it's misery. A carrier which has been reduced to mining is obviously well past its prime. It is possible that its docking bays are damanged in some fashion that only allowed mining drones - or perhaps a critical software patch in the lauch command system had not been done. Whatever the case, it is obvious that this once proud warrior had seen better days.
Sleep well, old one. You shall be missed.
A bitter vet trying to start anew.
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Unsuccessful At Everything
The Troll Bridge
17369
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Posted - 2014.10.27 15:38:07 -
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Is.. that.. a ... cloaky... mining.. probing.. data/relic running.. t1 fit... Thanatos... in a WH....
I don't think there is any way to carebear harder than this.
Since the cessation of their usefulness is imminent, may I appropriate your belongings?
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Jenn aSide
Smokin Aces.
8755
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Posted - 2014.10.27 15:46:54 -
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Unsuccessful At Everything wrote: Is.. that.. a ... cloaky... mining.. probing.. data/relic running.. t1 fit... Thanatos... in a WH....
I don't think there is any way to carebear harder than this.
You'd honestly be surprised lol.
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Unsuccessful At Everything
The Troll Bridge
17370
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Posted - 2014.10.27 16:18:01 -
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Jenn aSide wrote:Unsuccessful At Everything wrote: Is.. that.. a ... cloaky... mining.. probing.. data/relic running.. t1 fit... Thanatos... in a WH....
I don't think there is any way to carebear harder than this. You'd honestly be surprised lol.
Not really. This is the kind of thing id expect to see everywhere if caps were allowed back in highsec...
Mining carriers... mining carriers everywhere.
Since the cessation of their usefulness is imminent, may I appropriate your belongings?
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Frostys Virpio
The Mjolnir Bloc The Bloc
1338
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Posted - 2014.10.27 16:27:18 -
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Jean Luc Lemmont wrote:ShahFluffers wrote:If you can get some support (or a trusted friend who can light a cynosaural field) then you can use a carrier as "pick-up truck" for moving your ships and some assortment of mods/ammo.
The problem with this is, of course, the same problem owners of pickup trucks have in real life. Once you have one, everyone else wants your help moving.
I tell these people they will get my arms to help as long as they stop being cheap and rent a damn cube truck. |

Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
6469
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Posted - 2014.10.27 16:29:12 -
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Jean Luc Lemmont wrote:ShahFluffers wrote:If you can get some support (or a trusted friend who can light a cynosaural field) then you can use a carrier as "pick-up truck" for moving your ships and some assortment of mods/ammo.
The problem with this is, of course, the same problem owners of pickup trucks have in real life. Once you have one, everyone else wants your help moving. This will only become more important after moving becomes much more...
fatiguing
^^ Delicious goon ((tech nerf, siphon, drone assist, supercap)) tears.
Taking a wrecking ball to the futile hopes and broken dreams of skillless blobbers.
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Robert Caldera
Caldera Trading and Investment
759
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Posted - 2014.10.27 19:10:25 -
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Jenn aSide wrote: What is this, 2009 (prior to the fighter nerf)?
Someone hasn't been to null lately, using assigned fighters sucks compared to having the carrier on grid where the fighters actually get bonuses from the carrier (unless you use a ship with mutiple target painters, but the you still have the tracking issues and the fighters need to move and orbit). Unbonused fighters (which is what assigned fighters are) suck against anything that isn't a battleship. If you are ratting in a BS, regular heavy drones (or mixed Gecko flights, in angel space 2 geckos, 2 Valkyries and a warrior is magic) are much much better.
no ist 2014 post-buff fighters, which will even face**** small stuff once tackled without putting the capital at any real risk if careful.
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Jenn aSide
Smokin Aces.
8760
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Posted - 2014.10.27 20:02:22 -
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Robert Caldera wrote:Jenn aSide wrote: What is this, 2009 (prior to the fighter nerf)?
Someone hasn't been to null lately, using assigned fighters sucks compared to having the carrier on grid where the fighters actually get bonuses from the carrier (unless you use a ship with mutiple target painters, but the you still have the tracking issues and the fighters need to move and orbit). Unbonused fighters (which is what assigned fighters are) suck against anything that isn't a battleship. If you are ratting in a BS, regular heavy drones (or mixed Gecko flights, in angel space 2 geckos, 2 Valkyries and a warrior is magic) are much much better.
no ist 2014 post-buff fighters, which will even face**** small stuff once tackled without putting the capital at any real risk if careful.
Exactly what "buff"? Fighters got nerfed this last time around (carrier pilot drone skills still don't matter to off grid assigned fighters) and assigned fighters don't get buffs from drone mods on an off grid carrier. With their base damage reduced (to compensate for the fact that they now use the pilots drones skilsl while on grid), pre '2014" fighters (which sucked) were better for ratting.
You can test this yourself (we i did, extensively), take any BS that has 125 bandwidth (or even 100, in the case of the machariel, even less with the rattlesnake), use it with 5 heavy drones, then 2 geckos, 2 medium and 1 light and then try the same thing with assigned fighters. Even against webbed targets (webs from a Vindicator) the fighters come in dead last in terms of isk/hr.
Tested over several days post patch with Vindicator, Machariel and (for kicks) a Rattlesnake (a single gecko from a rattlesnake puts fighters to shame isk wise). That's what you don't see a whole bunch of assigned fighters, if a person can dual box and has a carrier, he's much better off being on grid manually directing them (or going with 7 geckos + 2 mediums and a light and then assigning them to assist the shooter ship, or guard if the shooter ship is using EWAR).
Like i said, you must be talking about 2009, assigning fighters nowadays is the least efficient thing you can do now
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J'Poll
CDG Playgrounds
4741
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Posted - 2014.10.27 20:16:42 -
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Jeremy Allign wrote:That is amazing, a mining Thanatos killed by Ventures!
Now, that is what I call Karma.
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Hasikan Miallok
Republic University Minmatar Republic
1166
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Posted - 2014.10.27 22:46:03 -
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Actually you could probably use one on autopilot to move random cr@p around hisec.
People would probably think it was a bait ship and leave it alone. |

Garandras
Black Aces Against ALL Authorities
243
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Posted - 2014.10.27 23:52:27 -
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The reason for a solo pilot to use a carrier... is to carry things for you when you get bored of a particular region and feel like seeing if the grass is less blobier over there |

Mark Hadden
Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion
38
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Posted - 2014.10.28 09:19:00 -
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Jenn aSide wrote:
Exactly what "buff"? Fighters got nerfed this last time around (carrier ....
holy sh**, even if you're right about fighter bonuses, assign your fighters to kiting interceptor and you will be killing stuff with almost absolute safety you wouldnt be killing otherwise. seen people doing that, a viable tactic for risk averse pvp. |

Jenn aSide
Smokin Aces.
8767
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Posted - 2014.10.28 12:09:11 -
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Mark Hadden wrote:Jenn aSide wrote:
Exactly what "buff"? Fighters got nerfed this last time around (carrier ....
holy ****, even if you're right about fighter bonuses, assign your fighters to kiting interceptor and you will be killing stuff with almost absolute safety you wouldnt be killing otherwise. seen people doing that, a viable tactic for risk averse pvp.
Talkin about shooting fake space pirates for isk here. Damn pvp (in a damn pvp game) always intruding on a brother trying to get that isk.
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Mark Hadden
Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion
38
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Posted - 2014.10.28 13:02:17 -
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wat? |

Issler Dainze
Tadakastu-Obata Corporation The Honda Accord
2508
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Posted - 2014.10.28 15:45:14 -
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Solo carriers can be a big part of a major part of Eve design, "isk sink".  |

ugh zug
100
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Posted - 2014.10.28 16:20:31 -
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carriers were great in moving your ships to new homes, now with the jump nerf not so much; you could rat with it but if you plan on that please let us know what system you're in.
Want me to shut up?
Remove content from my post, 15 bil.
Remove my content from a thread I have started 30bil.
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Mark Hadden
Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion
38
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Posted - 2014.10.28 17:38:27 -
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ugh zug wrote:carriers were great in moving your ships to new homes, now with the jump nerf not so much; you could rat with it but if you plan on that please let us know what system you're in.
you dont need to ask in forum, go check deklein and branch you will find bunch of ratting carriers there, like in any other god forsaken backwater space in eve. |

Desimus Maximus
Embargo.
124
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Posted - 2014.10.29 08:48:44 -
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Thanks to CFC/PL/N3 the only real use for a solo carrier pilot is to pay taxes to your corporation that is the slave to the renter alliance.
Blap blap those rats and fill those corp coffers b!tch! |
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