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Jim McGregor Caldari	Posted - 2006.08.21 14:58:00 - [31] Speaking of this, there was a dev blog not far back that talked about making some of the useless modules useful again. We'll see what happens. --- Eve Wiki \| Eve Tribune \| Eve Pirate
Kashre Minmatar Imperium Technologies Firmus Ixion	Posted - 2006.08.21 15:46:00 - [32] Originally by: Jim McGregor Speaking of this, there was a dev blog not far back that talked about making some of the useless modules useful again. We'll see what happens. You mean like 1200mm arty? That's my vote for useless. +++ "Etiquette is for the Dojo. In war there is only victory or death." - Eiji Yoshikawa
Jim McGregor Caldari	Posted - 2006.08.21 15:50:00 - [33] Edited by: Jim McGregor on 21/08/2006 15:50:51 Originally by: Kashre Originally by: Jim McGregor Speaking of this, there was a dev blog not far back that talked about making some of the useless modules useful again. We'll see what happens. You mean like 1200mm arty? That's my vote for useless. I think the devs were talking about other modules than weapons. But I agree that 1200's are pretty useless. They do have less fitting requirements, but... most of the time you want the big bang if you are going to use artillery in the first place. Personally i think artillery is boring. Tracking is so bad it can generally only be used to snipe. Zzzzz. And the dps is horrible. Really, really horrible. --- Eve Wiki \| Eve Tribune \| Eve Pirate
HippoKing Caldari Beagle Corp	Posted - 2006.08.21 15:52:00 - [34] Originally by: Kashre Originally by: Jim McGregor Speaking of this, there was a dev blog not far back that talked about making some of the useless modules useful again. We'll see what happens. You mean like 1200mm arty? That's my vote for useless. Has that not improved since the damage boost for it? I don't know, I never fitted it before or after, and I can't be bothered to run maths
Salusa VC TunDraGon	Posted - 2006.08.21 15:59:00 - [35] Originally by: HippoKing You could use pages of maths this guy wouldn't understand, and I'd still not believe that a micro shield extender on a stealth bombers was a good idea. Surely you mean this guy?? And my vote goes to anything that is "Micro"..
Edvard Godspeed Caldari Deep Core Mining Inc.	Posted - 2006.08.21 16:16:00 - [36] Everything starting with "basic" and "civilian".
Syl'Ani Sachem	Posted - 2006.08.21 16:18:00 - [37] I'd say everything with 'Flux' in it's name
HippoKing Caldari Beagle Corp	Posted - 2006.08.21 16:21:00 - [38] Originally by: Salusa VC Originally by: HippoKing You could use pages of maths this guy wouldn't understand, and I'd still not believe that a micro shield extender on a stealth bombers was a good idea. Surely you mean this guy?? No, definitely this guy
Kage Getsu Lordless Unbrella Alliance	Posted - 2006.08.21 16:41:00 - [39] Originally by: Samirol ecm burst Normally I'd agree, except some newish player in a Brutix used one to escape from one of my friends in an Interceptor. I was pretty amazed that it actually worked post-ECM changes. I used to love them on Covert Ops for escaping, but after the ECM changes it was boosted to use way too much energy. My vote for useless modules goes to anything Micro sized, except for Micro Auxiliary Power Cores. I can't imagine why you'd ever need to have a Micro Smartbomb for instance. _________________________________________________________
Christopher Dalran	Posted - 2006.08.21 17:40:00 - [40] Originally by: Kage Getsu Originally by: Samirol ecm burst Normally I'd agree, except some newish player in a Brutix used one to escape from one of my friends in an Interceptor. I was pretty amazed that it actually worked post-ECM changes. I used to love them on Covert Ops for escaping, but after the ECM changes it was boosted to use way too much energy. My vote for useless modules goes to anything Micro sized, except for Micro Auxiliary Power Cores. I can't imagine why you'd ever need to have a Micro Smartbomb for instance. They work good on a BC because it has alot of CAP and can afford to use it, if you get jumped by a bunch of frigates it just might save your butt since BC's dont do that well against frigates unless you fit small guns.
Arushia TEK Inc. R i s e	Posted - 2006.08.21 18:22:00 - [41] Any named surver scanner. Why would I want to scan outside my strip-miners' range?
Emperor D'Hoffryn Low Grade Ore	Posted - 2006.08.21 18:47:00 - [42] named survey scanners have less fitting requirements, like 1 CPU less or somesuch. Important on that apoc when you are trying to fit mining laser upgrades on it. Originally by: Tuxford Yes we don't play on our main accounts simply because you would lose all respect for us
Hllaxiu Shiva Morsus Mihi	Posted - 2006.08.21 19:12:00 - [43] Originally by: Arushia Any named surver scanner. Why would I want to scan outside my strip-miners' range? So you know where to go next? --- Our greatest glory is not in never failing, but in rising up every time we fail. - Emerson
Rania Serlia TetraMorph Nexus Inc. The Imperial Order	Posted - 2006.08.21 19:26:00 - [44] Regenerative plating. On anything smaller than a capital ship you're always better off fitting a plate/damage mod/resistance plating/WCS. Err...I mean nanofiber, not WCS, of course.
TorpSpammer ExtraordinR	Posted - 2006.08.21 19:38:00 - [45] 1200mm artillery cannon
Ithildin Gallente The Corporation	Posted - 2006.08.21 19:47:00 - [46] Inertia Stabilizers are getting fixed so they'll become useful. The most useless module is definetly the Auto Targeting Systems. They don't work. They'd be damned useful if they did work, but they simply do not target anything. I've done some field testing, and here's two interesting lists. What Auto Targeters do not target: * Corp mates * Corp mates who are shooting at me * Random person who is shooting at me * War target * War target who is shooting at me * Non-hostile NPCs (such as CONCORD or convoys) * Hostile NPC * Hosilte, agressing, NPC * Stations (thankfully) * Asteroids (thankfully) * CONCORD (thankfully) * Abandoned ships Here's a list of what they do target: * War target loot container (after they've died), though only rarely Here's a list of what they should target if they worked: * Entities agressing you * Players whom you are allowed to shoot at in high-sec (war targets and -5 or lower sec status) * Hostile (pirate) NPCs Dark skies torn apart Heavens open before me I, the light of death
Now Mary	Posted - 2006.08.21 22:08:00 - [47] Originally by: Franky B Warp Disruptor I, Warp Scrambler I. so useless right now. Sad, but true... If you are reading a post by this character, it's probably because I'm too lazy to select my main. Try not to lose any sleep over it, mkay?
Matrix Aran Legio Immortalis Knights Of the Southerncross	Posted - 2006.08.21 22:20:00 - [48] Hmm most useless huh? Civilian gattling gun. Everything else has its uses even to a new except that turd that I get every time I get a new noob ship. ----
Vathar Elegance	Posted - 2006.08.22 01:40:00 - [49] Originally by: Pottsey I use the auto lock all the time and often have 2 fitted to my domi. So its not the most useless module. As ithildin said, auto targetters tend not to target ANYTHING when I use them! So, do you use them only for increased max target or have you found a way to make them work? _ Originally by: Stamm Minmatar are kind of like going down a flight of stairs on an office chair firing an uzi
Durethia RillaCorp	Posted - 2006.08.22 01:43:00 - [50] I nominate the most useless mod.... Being whatever might fit in the 6th hi-slot on a DEIMOS!!!!! A prince ought to have no other aim or thought, nor select anything else for his study, than war and its rules and discipline... --Nicolo Machiavelli (1505 AD)
The Fates	Posted - 2006.08.22 02:21:00 - [51] lol, auto targeting systems are worse than useless in some cases ever tried one in missions in deadspace? it targets things you didnt know were there o_0 and seems to have them on the highest priority... micro mods as said personally I find anything 'bulkhead' related pretty useless .. probably my vote now i wait for someone to say how cool they are
Saryn Lightyear	Posted - 2006.08.22 09:53:00 - [52] hello? drone navigation computers? adds a whopping 10m/s to my heavy drones?
Phrixus Zephyr Singularity.	Posted - 2006.08.22 17:19:00 - [53] Dual 150mm rails... i mean whats the point, really. Originally by: El Berto ...aparently being European makes me the spawn of Cthulhu.
vanBuskirk Caldari	Posted - 2006.08.22 17:40:00 - [54] Originally by: babylonstew Originally by: HippoKing Originally by: Pottsey as for micro extenders I use them on my stealth bomber as it cannot fit more small extenders. Why oh god why you just had to ask, stand by for pottsey's coming complex math with max regen and dps clacs et all and back on topic, my vote goes to just about anything with 'micro' in its name, plus them utterly useless flux mods Including micro auxiliary power core? ---------------------------------------------- "Violence is the last refuge of the incompetent." ----------------------------------------------
Pottsey Gallente Dissonance Corp Interstellar Starbase Syndicate	Posted - 2006.08.22 21:04:00 - [55] ôWhy oh god whyö ItÆs a killer against other Stealth bombers. You can take multiply volleys from a Stealth bomber and still have shields while other frigates and Stealth bomber tend to die in 1 volley. So if youÆre hunting frigates either T1 or T2 it works well and if your hunting other bombers you have the advantage. But it does mean giving up the tracking disrupter(s). ItÆs also a fun ship to help with in PvE. The shields mean you can take a few hits. At the moment I only use my Bomber as a fun ship when I want a change. The thing is Bombers have free CPU but not PG so its Micro extenders if you want to tank and you can tank with them. Its just most people donÆt realise it. I do agree they are a lot of the time they are better without tanks and tracking disrupters but its fun to watch people hit you and go WTF its still alive. I will never forget the time I engaged a Stealth bomber with my bomber and survived with more then 50% shields. ôSo, do you use them only for increased max target or have you found a way to make them work?ö They used to work now I just use them for extra locks. I donÆt use them in PvP. Passive shield tanking guide, click here.
Estan Drake	Posted - 2006.08.23 03:40:00 - [56] Named Passive targeters. I mean look at them, they are not any better at all, and in one case I believe a named one actually used up more CPU. Oh and the named passive targeters suck even more due to the fact that they can't be used for mineral compression like the standard ones since they refine to much less iso and mex and such. The bulk heads would also get my useless vote. Has anyone seriously ever used them? Maybe a few people here and there who are just screwing around with the idea of a structure tank, but beyond that I see no reason.
Malthros Zenobia Caldari Independent Navy Reserve Kimotoro Directive	Posted - 2006.08.23 03:56:00 - [57] Edited by: Malthros Zenobia on 23/08/2006 03:57:45 Originally by: Seroster Passive Targeting Systems. Has anyone ever used one of these? Other than for highsec ganks: pirate/flashyred: hey wonder what those 6 battleships are doing just sitting at 200km, are they going to try to hit me or not? pop pirate/flashyred: WHAT THE **? I think defender missiles, fired by players, are pretty useless. I tried using them for a long long time as a newbie, and it was just a waste of time. Also micro shield extenders are totally worthless. Look at their fitting reqs. Ok now look at small extender fitting reqs. Yeah, someone **** up.
Estan Drake	Posted - 2006.08.23 05:32:00 - [58] ohhh good one. forgot all about how useless defenders currently are. They were somewhat usefull back in the stoneage before the missile changes... ya know when missiles were really slow and torps killed frigs? Now adays.. not so much except in special circumstances.
Mnengli Noiliffe	Posted - 2006.08.23 06:53:00 - [59] Originally by: Saryn Lightyear hello? drone navigation computers? adds a whopping 10m/s to my heavy drones? more like about 25% more speed.. It's a good mod, pity I can't fit in on ishtar due to cpu issues. Always have at least one on my Domi though.
Boonaki Caldari Suffoco Noctis Atrocitas	Posted - 2006.08.23 10:39:00 - [60] I think auto-targeters would make macro NPCing far to easy (if they fixed them) Imagine macro pvping? Fear the Ibis of doom! 113

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