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Eepzy Nimbles
Nimbles Covenant
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Posted - 2006.08.21 23:32:00 -
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Who needs scramblers when you can just use a Raven?
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Tehel Necrona
Minmatar Black Omega Security E.R.A
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Posted - 2006.08.21 23:45:00 -
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He's so uber and numero uno, he's lost 8 BS ( that we know of ) in around 23/24 days, that's gotta take some skill. pld Ginger.
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Hast
Destructive Influence Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.08.22 00:06:00 -
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Originally by: Tehel Necrona He's so uber and numero uno, he's lost 8 BS ( that we know of ) in around 23/24 days, that's gotta take some skill. pld Ginger.
it was all to lag and buggy game mechanics, not gingers fault at all!
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Ginger Magician
Minmatar Mentally Unstable Enterprises
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Posted - 2006.08.22 00:47:00 -
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Actually I lost this ship deliberately in order to destroy the falcon which decloaked on top of me and which I knew was there.This ship is the capsule u see on the killmail and it lost a lot of mods as well as the covert ops device which is around a 160mill loss for those involved so I hope it was worht it for u. And I was not scrambled but I was not in alignment becuse i stayed to kill the falcon and then could not warp in time due to being webbed. The reason I fit so many wcs should be obvious from the killmail.To be honest these antipirates are even worse than pirates themselves hanging in system for hours at a time cloaked using many noob corp alts and other exploits and only ever willing to acutally leave jump range of the gate when 10-1 odds in their favour. And then they moan on forums that their targets fit some stabs.It really is pathetic.
Still hurry back and bring some more 160mill ships for me to pop.
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Vladimir Norkoff
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Posted - 2006.08.22 01:40:00 -
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Quote: To be honest these antipirates are even worse than pirates themselves hanging in system for hours at a time cloaked using many noob corp alts and other exploits and only ever willing to acutally leave jump range of the gate when 10-1 odds in their favour.
I'll hazard that your opinion is probably biased in regards to what side of the sniper situation you are on..
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Nigh7F0x
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Posted - 2006.08.22 02:31:00 -
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Edited by: Nigh7F0x on 22/08/2006 02:32:27 Edited by: Nigh7F0x on 22/08/2006 02:31:33
Originally by: Scoundrelus Linking to killboards is not allowed on the forums.
http://Raven.DeBlade.justgotowned.com/ Pwned
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Mista Sexamalicious
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Posted - 2006.08.22 02:48:00 -
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Originally by: Ginger Magician Actually I lost this ship deliberately in order to destroy the falcon which decloaked on top of me and which I knew was there.This ship is the capsule u see on the killmail and it lost a lot of mods as well as the covert ops device which is around a 160mill loss for those involved so I hope it was worht it for u. And I was not scrambled but I was not in alignment becuse i stayed to kill the falcon and then could not warp in time due to being webbed. The reason I fit so many wcs should be obvious from the killmail.To be honest these antipirates are even worse than pirates themselves hanging in system for hours at a time cloaked using many noob corp alts and other exploits and only ever willing to acutally leave jump range of the gate when 10-1 odds in their favour. And then they moan on forums that their targets fit some stabs.It really is pathetic.
Still hurry back and bring some more 160mill ships for me to pop.
Originally by: Nigh7F0x Edited by: Nigh7F0x on 22/08/2006 02:32:27 Edited by: Nigh7F0x on 22/08/2006 02:31:33
Originally by: Scoundrelus Linking to killboards is not allowed on the forums.
http://Raven.DeBlade.justgotowned.com/ Pwned
Damn you beat me to it! ___________________
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Alt Troll
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Posted - 2006.08.22 04:47:00 -
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only 6 stabs?? you should have fit 7 ____________ FEED me! You know you want to -all posts made on this character represent the views of my main's corp, alliance, as well as the views of everyone else in EVE and in the universe.- |
Awox
Awox Inc.
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Posted - 2006.08.22 04:49:00 -
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Originally by: Jalia Kovac Don't nerf WCS... remove them from the game entirely.
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Gonada
Gallente
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Posted - 2006.08.22 04:55:00 -
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lol , listen to you pathetic fools.
5-6 vs 1, you kill him then gloat brag, admonish him cause he used WCS.
this , of course is the reason why neds like you want wcs removed: you can gang gank so much easier then, you dont have to fit so many scrams, instead you can really max that damage when a bunch of you gang up on a person.
exactly why they will never remove wcs.
suck it up ladies
-I don't necessarily agree with everything I say.-
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Jimmy Doe
Caldari Bladerunners Mordus Angels
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Posted - 2006.08.22 06:20:00 -
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Quote: i stayed to kill the falcon and then could not warp in time due to being webbed.
apparently the best pvper in all of eve doesnt quite comprehend that being webbed HELPS YOU GO INTO WARP FASTER roflmao. you stupid noob.
honestly you talk so much smack in local about being the king, you expect not to come over and spank you like you've been out of kisogo for 2 days. get real oh and btw no that falcon didnt cost 160mil all the stuff on it we produce you turd.
You look at me and you laugh at the noob, but look at your wallet and see that insurance the SCC just paid you for your loss |
Arcticblue2
Gallente Nordic Freelancers inc
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Posted - 2006.08.22 06:36:00 -
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Originally by: Ginger Magician Actually I lost this ship deliberately in order to destroy the falcon which decloaked on top of me and which I knew was there.This ship is the capsule u see on the killmail and it lost a lot of mods as well as the covert ops device which is around a 160mill loss for those involved so I hope it was worht it for u. And I was not scrambled but I was not in alignment becuse i stayed to kill the falcon and then could not warp in time due to being webbed. The reason I fit so many wcs should be obvious from the killmail.To be honest these antipirates are even worse than pirates themselves hanging in system for hours at a time cloaked using many noob corp alts and other exploits and only ever willing to acutally leave jump range of the gate when 10-1 odds in their favour. And then they moan on forums that their targets fit some stabs.It really is pathetic.
Still hurry back and bring some more 160mill ships for me to pop.
A covert-ops device only cost around 57 million isk.. not 160, but if it was a recon ship... I bought a Aruzu to at around 80 million ... I suppose ship+covert ops and some more mods .. it could be 160 millon. ---------------------------------------------- "When I was a child, I spoke as a child, I felt as a child, I thought as a child: now that I am become a man, I have put away childish things." 1 cor. |
Mazare Mircea
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Posted - 2006.08.22 08:00:00 -
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If there were exploits involved why not petition them ? I'm sure the GM's will give they're full and undivided attention, even though they did nerf you're damage especially and increased that of every raven you are fighting - AF too. :)
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Bill Shankly
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Posted - 2006.08.22 08:30:00 -
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Dont remove WCS, Improve them, give us +2.
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Trillian Mcmillan
The Arrow Project The ARR0W Project
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Posted - 2006.08.22 09:11:00 -
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Edited by: Trillian Mcmillan on 22/08/2006 09:11:44
Originally by: Ginger Magician
And I was not scrambled but I was not in alignment becuse i stayed to kill the falcon and then could not warp in time due to being webbed.
I might be rather new to the game compared to the person im quoting but as far as i know being webbed makes your warp FASTER.
From my understanding this is becouse under the effect of a of webber you max speed is reduced so a much lower speed is needed to achive a "full speed align". This is well evident on freighters using friendly webbers to speed up thier align.
Please correct me if im wrong.
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Alliaanna Dalaii
Gallente Does Not Compute
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Posted - 2006.08.22 09:11:00 -
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Originally by: Ginger Magician Actually I lost this ship deliberately in order to destroy the falcon which decloaked on top of me and which I knew was there.This ship is the capsule u see on the killmail and it lost a lot of mods as well as the covert ops device which is around a 160mill loss for those involved so I hope it was worht it for u. And I was not scrambled but I was not in alignment becuse i stayed to kill the falcon and then could not warp in time due to being webbed. The reason I fit so many wcs should be obvious from the killmail.To be honest these antipirates are even worse than pirates themselves hanging in system for hours at a time cloaked using many noob corp alts and other exploits and only ever willing to acutally leave jump range of the gate when 10-1 odds in their favour. And then they moan on forums that their targets fit some stabs.It really is pathetic.
Still hurry back and bring some more 160mill ships for me to pop.
Lol I cant believe I actually commended a few of your posts recently.
So you stayed in a situation to get a kill of a ship knowing full well that you would be unable to collect the loot, Theres 100% risk for 0% possible reward. And i'm sorry but your story doesn't wash anyway and i'm guessing as are many others that its just a pathetic excuse to justify your death.
ffs just take it like a man and accept you got jumped, No one would laugh at you for dieing to all those ships on the killmail ! They will laugh at you for....
#Using 6 bloody stabs on a battleship. #Making up bull**** as to why you died. #Being arrogant
This is how i'd guesse the story really went...
Recon uncloaks on top of Ginger, Ginger decides to try and kill it thinking he's safe with his lows filled with stabs. Ginger then finds his dmg output is bloody ridiculous due to his setup and the rest of gang has time to land on him.
Ginger is dead...
Sound about right ?
Alliaanna DNC Treasure Hunt !!
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Alliaanna Dalaii
Gallente Does Not Compute
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Posted - 2006.08.22 09:14:00 -
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Oh and if i'm wrong and you did indeed stay put just to kill the Recon. Then as far as being a pirate goes you lose
And dont give me "I dont care about my ship its worthless, I wanted the kill" as thats clearly complete rubbish ! Or you wouldn't have packed the stabs would you.
Noob
Alliaanna DNC Treasure Hunt !!
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Jimmy Doe
Caldari Bladerunners Mordus Angels
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Posted - 2006.08.22 09:22:00 -
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1) considering that we build the falcons, and have quite a few cov ops cloaks just sitting around, your ship loss cost a great deal more than the falcon.
2) if you didnt talk so much smack and proclaim yourself the "king" of pirates you wouldnt be ganked so much.
3) i have absolutely no fear of you whatsoever and neither does anyone with half a clue in thier head, you hit like a sissy and stab yourself up so much because you are deathly scared of taking on anyone that might possibly take you down.
youre pathetic and a miserable excuse for a pirate. it really is fun to see a mega go insta pop like you did.
if you have an issue with anything i have to say about you bring it. your words are misused air and reek of moronic excuses. please do us all a favor and stop stealing our oxygen, its the only pirating you seem to be good at.
You look at me and you laugh at the noob, but look at your wallet and see that insurance the SCC just paid you for your loss |
Unbeliever Kresmoreen
Communist Vikings Knights Of the Southerncross
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Posted - 2006.08.22 09:28:00 -
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Meh. Just like ECM (and ECCM) im sure CCP did some math before they threw them into the game. Fit WCS, you nerf your build for damage/tank, etc. Same with ecm/eccm, you miss out on other fittings. No IWIN buttons there.
I'm sure most people just troll these threads to get a rise out of people. Hell why not when you're bored at work. They are only ever 1 stab strength, as opposed to their counter which can be two; all with minimal skills required. Being able to indiscriminately lock down any stray battleship with a ****ty frigate until his mates can rock up is imbalanced, completely.
Most people just seem to work within the bounds of game mechanics and still come up with killmails. Why can't you? |
Riela Tanal
Caldari Darkdust Industries Empire
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Posted - 2006.08.22 21:20:00 -
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Edited by: Riela Tanal on 22/08/2006 21:22:17 Edit: Double post Riela Tanal "Never underestimate the element of surprise"
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Riela Tanal
Caldari Darkdust Industries Empire
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Posted - 2006.08.22 21:20:00 -
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Originally by: Jalia Kovac Don't nerf WCS... remove them from the game entirely.
In otherwords just cause you have a warp scrambler no counter module should exist in the game? Sounds unbalanced to me to have something without a module counter. In my opinion, WCS are balanced as low slots can be used for other things and its my understanding that people that complain that WCS need to be nerfed are those too lazy to get more tacklers or fit an extra scrambler. If you want to hold people that fit alot of stabs then counter it by getting more scramblers and a small percentage even use stabs in combat. I personally have rarely if at all use them due to the fact that I need the slots for other things. If they want to fill their low slots with Stabs then let them, it makes them weaker in terms of ship stats. As the usual quote for this game, "Adapt or die" it is as simple as that. Riela Tanal "Never underestimate the element of surprise"
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Raven DeBlade
Caldari Bladerunners Mordus Angels
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Posted - 2006.08.22 21:33:00 -
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WCS shouldnt be removed, never said that, but penalty for using them and especially several should be so high that you cant use them as an "insurance" in PVP. Use WCS for travel etc but they dont belong in PVP.
"To hunt pirates you need time and patience, because even monkeys fall from the trees" |
Nahia Senne
Fortunis Novum Black Flag Alliance
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Posted - 2006.08.22 21:48:00 -
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so you guys lost recon cruiser + recon cloak just to kill one fully insured BS?
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Anna Bok
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Posted - 2006.08.23 04:16:00 -
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Haha priceless
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Murukan
Minmatar The Priory
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Posted - 2006.08.23 07:24:00 -
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WCS should be removed. If you don't want to risk dieing then it's simple, don't go into low sec.
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Gabriel Sword
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Posted - 2006.08.23 09:12:00 -
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Ok letĘs set the record straight
Ginger had spent all day in the system doing what he dose best killing noobs. I have been watching him most of the day and pinpointing most of his sniping spots. I also knew from the last encounter with this awesome PVPer that I would need to fit a minimum of 3 +2 warp scramblers. Now being a Bladerunner I must defend the week when ever I can.
Now the trap was set Ginger and his sidekick Sprungle Spormen were doing their PVP but keep changing snipe spot and warping in and out I presume this was due to the noobs causing them dmg at 230km from the target in their haulers of doom anyway back to the story. Ginger warped out to repair his ego but Sprungle was still there sitting stationary in his Geddon I closed the distance and we were ready to pounce. The order was given to decloak and scramble the target but just before I did the main pray returned Ginger so everything was put on old for 2 mins while a closed on the new pray. Once within range I decloaked and the trap was sprung target locked and scrambled 3 +2 scramblers = to 6 WCS yes I did lose a falcon, the reason for this was I had to stay to scramble the mega which was tech 2 fitted 425s my jammers failed which is a pain but part of the game if they jammed every time you would all cry nerf jammers. But we did get Ginger who had lost his second tech 2 fitted Mega in a day must be over 300mill. Yes it would be good if WCS were nerfed so you can fit them but your offensive capability was nerfed I will admit to fitting WCS but only on my haulers when flying through 0.0 which I feel this is fine as 0.0 has flycatchers and warp bubbles to counter act WCS. But my main point to Ginger is if the loss did not bother you then why did you spam me with your other two alts telling me I was going to die and that your 4 man corp was going to wardec our alliance and bring it to its knees. I feel Ginger need to wake up from his dream of superior tactics and pvp skills and smell the roses. Next time you see me or any Blade in local be afraid because no matter how many WCS you fit I will scramble you and you will lose your ship be it on a gate camp or in you so called safe spots because I have them all. I donĘt know if you have worked out how to use the scanner but look for probes as well as haulers .
Oh and your sidekick will also lose his ship
Regards
Gabriel
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HippoKing
Caldari Beagle Corp
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Posted - 2006.08.23 10:43:00 -
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Much as I hate to be saying this (particularly given the setup), if he did kill a properly fitted falcon, he inflicted more ISK loss on his attackers than he lost. In a 5v1.
Honestly, if I was the blades, I'd reconsider laughing at him if I lost a falcon in a 5v1 to a megathron fitted with 6 WCS.
Of course, from where I am, I'll laugh at both of you
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Deja Thoris
Contraband Inc. Mercenary Coalition
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Posted - 2006.08.23 11:17:00 -
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Originally by: HippoKing Much as I hate to be saying this (particularly given the setup), if he did kill a properly fitted falcon, he inflicted more ISK loss on his attackers than he lost. In a 5v1.
Honestly, if I was the blades, I'd reconsider laughing at him if I lost a falcon in a 5v1 to a megathron fitted with 6 WCS.
Of course, from where I am, I'll laugh at both of you
ISK be damned, the pleasure in taking down a stab ***** is worth ISK loss. Theres few things more satisfying than knowing that ***** is clicking warp safe in the knowledge his *6* stabs are going to save him and they dont
In addition 7*425 t2 rails now sell for in the region of 90mill ISK (13 mill per) where a cloak costs 60mill or less. If the blades have a falcon bpo they did indeed lose less than whinger.
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Alliaanna Dalaii
Gallente Does Not Compute
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Posted - 2006.08.23 11:24:00 -
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Originally by: Deja Thoris
Originally by: HippoKing Much as I hate to be saying this (particularly given the setup), if he did kill a properly fitted falcon, he inflicted more ISK loss on his attackers than he lost. In a 5v1.
Honestly, if I was the blades, I'd reconsider laughing at him if I lost a falcon in a 5v1 to a megathron fitted with 6 WCS.
Of course, from where I am, I'll laugh at both of you
ISK be damned, the pleasure in taking down a stab ***** is worth ISK loss. Theres few things more satisfying than knowing that ***** is clicking warp safe in the knowledge his *6* stabs are going to save him and they dont
In addition 7*425 t2 rails now sell for in the region of 90mill ISK (13 mill per) where a cloak costs 60mill or less. If the blades have a falcon bpo they did indeed lose less than whinger.
To Hippoking and Deja all of that is completely irrelivant.
Ginger is a pirate, His ISK comes FROM his pirating.. Something not true for i'd imagine any of the blade members as there isk at a guesse comes from grinding. And they pay for their PvP.
Ginger lost isk for no gain, Whether you killed something is completely irrelivant. As a pirate he still lost ! He could have killed a dread, but if he didn't get any loot from it he still got owned in any sense of the matter.
Alliaanna DNC Treasure Hunt !!
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Sjorovar Birger
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Posted - 2006.08.23 11:27:00 -
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Originally by: Trillian Mcmillan Edited by: Trillian Mcmillan on 22/08/2006 09:11:44
Originally by: Ginger Magician
And I was not scrambled but I was not in alignment becuse i stayed to kill the falcon and then could not warp in time due to being webbed.
I might be rather new to the game compared to the person im quoting but as far as i know being webbed makes your warp FASTER.
From my understanding this is becouse under the effect of a of webber you max speed is reduced so a much lower speed is needed to achive a "full speed align". This is well evident on freighters using friendly webbers to speed up thier align.
Please correct me if im wrong.
Correct. Unless his current speed was way above the ships current max speed and he wasn't aligned at any specific direction. This happens sometimes when you've de-actived your AB/MWD and the cycle has just ended - maybe even get webbed at the same moment. In a case like that it'll take you forever (almost always long enough to die) to warp to anything not positioned straight in front of you. This is my personal experience with the universe of Eve and I'm not trying to prove either one of you wrong nor right.
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