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Raven DeBlade
Caldari Bladerunners Mordus Angels
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Posted - 2006.08.21 20:02:00 -
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Edited by: Raven DeBlade on 21/08/2006 20:04:14 Here is the reason why Warp Core Stabs need to be nerfed, its just pathetic, you should be ashamed Ginger. i mean... not 1, not 2, not 3, not 4, not 5... but 6 (SIX) Warp Core Stabs fitted... Maybe get a Geddon, they have 8 low slots for all your WCS needs...
Nerf WCS please!!!
"To hunt pirates you need time and patience, because even monkeys fall from the trees" |
hattifnatt
Gallente The Movement
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Posted - 2006.08.21 20:04:00 -
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Haha 400x120@24000 Bytes Maximum please. -Capsicum ___ /o.0\ \___/ <-- This is Jigglypuff!! [ |
Katsumoto
Caldari Quam Singulari Lotka Volterra
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Posted - 2006.08.21 20:06:00 -
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Originally by: Raven DeBlade Edited by: Raven DeBlade on 21/08/2006 20:04:14 Here is the reason why Warp Core Stabs need to be nerfed, its just pathetic, you should be ashamed Ginger. i mean... not 1, not 2, not 3, not 4, not 5... but 6 (SIX) Warp Core Stabs fitted... Maybe get a Geddon, they have 8 low slots for all your WCS needs...
Nerf WCS please!!!
I seem to remember him doing that whilst i was in curse alliance..
8 WCS Geddon .
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Titus Pull0
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Posted - 2006.08.21 20:07:00 -
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OMFG LOOOOL ROFFFLL at Ginger Magician!
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Ladel Teravada
Caldari Caldari Independent Navy Reserve Kimotoro Directive
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Posted - 2006.08.21 20:14:00 -
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I was apart of killing TribalBleb of Turbulent in a 8 WCS Geddon awhile back.. With tasty t2 weaponry.. Mmmm..
Captain Ladel Teravada Chief of Naval Intelligence, CAIN Assistant Director of Foreign Relations, KD
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Laocoon
Veto.
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Posted - 2006.08.21 20:17:00 -
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a little part of me just died
- Lao
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Gitt
FW Inc
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Posted - 2006.08.21 20:19:00 -
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6? lol
Gitt
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Mazare Mircea
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Posted - 2006.08.21 20:24:00 -
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Originally by: Raven DeBlade Edited by: Raven DeBlade on 21/08/2006 20:04:14 Here is the reason why Warp Core Stabs need to be nerfed, its just pathetic, you should be ashamed Ginger. i mean... not 1, not 2, not 3, not 4, not 5... but 6 (SIX) Warp Core Stabs fitted... Maybe get a Geddon, they have 8 low slots for all your WCS needs...
Nerf WCS please!!!
Why ? You had a Raven in the gang ... RAVEN CAN SCRAMBLE FROM 125KM !
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Maya Rkell
Sebiestor tribe
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Posted - 2006.08.21 20:26:00 -
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12.5% range penalty per WCS.
Hehehe. Sorry, was the the sound of a broken sniper...
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Riela Tanal
Caldari Darkdust Industries Empire
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Posted - 2006.08.21 20:33:00 -
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Originally by: Raven DeBlade Edited by: Raven DeBlade on 21/08/2006 20:04:14 Here is the reason why Warp Core Stabs need to be nerfed, its just pathetic, you should be ashamed Ginger. i mean... not 1, not 2, not 3, not 4, not 5... but 6 (SIX) Warp Core Stabs fitted... Maybe get a Geddon, they have 8 low slots for all your WCS needs...
Nerf WCS please!!!
Which ofcourse you still killed the megathron with stabs so what are you complaining about? I completely disagree with the whole nerf WCS that some pirates are obsessed with but thats neither here nor there. The megathron got toasted cause it was weaker due to the stab setup so I don't see what your whining about. Riela Tanal "Never underestimate the element of surprise"
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Mazare Mircea
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Posted - 2006.08.21 20:38:00 -
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BTW ... how did you scramble him ?
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Raven DeBlade
Caldari Bladerunners Mordus Angels
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Posted - 2006.08.21 20:43:00 -
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Edited by: Raven DeBlade on 21/08/2006 20:43:50
Originally by: Mazare Mircea BTW ... how did you scramble him ?
With many, many, many warp scramblers think like 6 or 7, maybe 8... never seen so many "Have started to warp scramble..." in local before...
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Mazare Mircea
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Posted - 2006.08.21 21:39:00 -
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Edited by: Mazare Mircea on 21/08/2006 21:39:10 At first i thought i thought you caught him in 0.0 with a interdictor bubble shot on him, but then i noticed it was in Passari. :)
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Deja Thoris
Contraband Inc. Mercenary Coalition
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Posted - 2006.08.21 21:43:00 -
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Edited by: Deja Thoris on 21/08/2006 21:44:11 Probably explains why he hits like a (5 letter word for cat) when he snipes.
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HippoKing
Caldari Beagle Corp
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Posted - 2006.08.21 21:43:00 -
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Thing is, I don't seen another low slot mod on the mail. Please say there was a WCS in the can
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Alpha Sentori
Caldari Core Frontier Teleologies
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Posted - 2006.08.21 21:45:00 -
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So WCS should be Nerf'd because???? Sorry I lost the point. Ahh, I get it, you want to kill people easily. Why shouldn't someone have the ability to escape when overpowered? Is it wrong to run and fight another day? I really don't get this WCS arguement. I suppose someone ganking an individual who then warps when it goes wrong can be a little annoying but so what, compensate and overcome. Stop whining about WCS, you know they exist so do something tangible about it. Flame on.....
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Khes
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Posted - 2006.08.21 22:09:00 -
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Edited by: Khes on 21/08/2006 22:10:40 I kind of agree with the last poster. You got him, but you think it should be easyer to get him?
Your were 4-6 on one, but you still want it to be easyer?
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Yarek Balear
Veto.
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Posted - 2006.08.21 22:20:00 -
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I've said it before, and I'll say it again... Change the WCS so that if you engage they don't function for 30-60 seconds after aggression finishes (like docking/gate jumping).
This stops people shooting then running like a girl when they realise they're beat, but also means that people who are simply travelling about and aren't interested in fighting do not get hampered. Hopefully this'd change the focus on WCS to travel only setups.
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Deja Thoris
Contraband Inc. Mercenary Coalition
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Posted - 2006.08.21 22:24:00 -
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Originally by: Khes Edited by: Khes on 21/08/2006 22:10:40 I kind of agree with the last poster. You got him, but you think it should be easyer to get him?
Your were 4-6 on one, but you still want it to be easyer?
No, people would take him one on one but he would run. Therefore he has to get blobbed.
It's catch-22 situation - "I wear stabs because you blob / we blob to hold you still because you are stab *****s"
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Izo Azlion
Veto.
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Posted - 2006.08.21 22:31:00 -
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Lmfao Ginger Magician... Nice to know hes so skillful eh?
Izo Azlion.
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Alpha Sentori
Caldari Core Frontier Teleologies
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Posted - 2006.08.21 22:38:00 -
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Deja has it, it's chicken/egg catch 22. Why do you fit a disruptor to your ship? What if I am uninterested in PVP. do you ask first and only engage those that want to PVP? No, you engage anyone that happens to be within lock range. You also (I put my mortgage on it) hit the disruptor/scrambler button once they hit armour, why? To stop them running and saving their ship and cargo. So Boo Hoo to you, you then moan when they counter that by fitting WCS!!! Get a grip. I know that there are loads of solo PVP'ers out there roaming 0.0 and they seem to do OK. They are killing the same people as you so work it out, change whatever you need to and adapt. Stop the constant moaning, if you can't overcome the WCS issue then find a friend to be a dedicated tackler. You killed Ginger so what's the point? Bah...
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Ozzie Asrail
Hybrid Syndicate
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Posted - 2006.08.21 22:41:00 -
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Originally by: Deja Thoris
Originally by: Khes Edited by: Khes on 21/08/2006 22:10:40 I kind of agree with the last poster. You got him, but you think it should be easyer to get him?
Your were 4-6 on one, but you still want it to be easyer?
No, people would take him one on one but he would run. Therefore he has to get blobbed.
It's catch-22 situation - "I wear stabs because you blob / we blob to hold you still because you are stab *****s"
Whats really sad is when you get blobed and the blobers wear stabs. Forget going out in a blaze of glory and having some fun since anything you might hope to kill simply warps away from your measly -2 scram.
I'm going to have to buy a vindicator simply so I can fly a blasterthron with -4 scrams -----
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Portios Smith
Gallente Sanguine Legion Atrocitas
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Posted - 2006.08.21 22:43:00 -
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Originally by: Khes Edited by: Khes on 21/08/2006 22:10:40 I kind of agree with the last poster. You got him, but you think it should be easyer to get him?
Your were 4-6 on one, but you still want it to be easyer?
Yes, like one on one, Warp Core Stabilizers are forcing people to blob since it takes that damn many to hold some one down, as if people needed any more reasons to blob
Did a run trough The Forege, every one I attacked had stabs (shield tank ftl) and a combat fit. they would fight till they felt they may loose and then warped off. I changed to a 7.5K 2 point scram afther that, some times I land close enough to be in 7.5k range just as the lock kicks in. I still see half of them Moas and Caracals warp out if their tank starts to give up Basicaly they want to fight effectively and have the ability to run at the same time.
The penalty for fitting pink underwear on a war vessel should be much higher than a low slot.
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Uggster
Caldari Shinra Lotka Volterra
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Posted - 2006.08.21 22:54:00 -
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I really dont see why CCP have not done something like give all WCS a +2 to warp strength but make them useless for combat ships in some way (there are loads of suggestions I'll not repeat them).
This would mean the traders and blockade runners and even careful 0.0 and low sec miners would still be able to use them and run but no-one would be able to fight with them and everyone is happy, the carebears get a buff and the PvP babies get a nerf and those that dont use them ina fight would get a straight match.
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Scoundrelus
The Black Fleet Pirate Coalition
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Posted - 2006.08.21 23:04:00 -
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ParMizaN
Body Count Inc. Mercenary Coalition
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Posted - 2006.08.21 23:09:00 -
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HAAHAHHAHAHA
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Arcticblue2
Gallente Nordic Freelancers inc
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Posted - 2006.08.21 23:19:00 -
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Well if WCS got to go, then scramblers got to go... or it would make a unfair balance...
What you could make is to make for example wcs have 2 strenght... like one that is having +2 on 7.5 km, and +1 at 20 km. and then make the opposite with the scrams, like +2 at 20 km, and +1 at 7.5 km ... something like that.
Either way ... if you are going to nerf or remove the stabs, then you got to do the same with scrams.
About Ginger... well tought it was common knowledge that he is using stabs... and alot of them ---------------------------------------------- "When I was a child, I spoke as a child, I felt as a child, I thought as a child: now that I am become a man, I have put away childish things." 1 cor. |
Galan Amarias
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Posted - 2006.08.21 23:24:00 -
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Originally by: Deja Thoris Edited by: Deja Thoris on 21/08/2006 21:44:11 Probably explains why he hits like a (5 letter word for cat) when he snipes.
And this right here sums up the whole argument. He hits like an anemic 11yr old. He can get away with his all stabb setup, but he is only a theat to those who have mistaken the charmin for a tank.
Stabbs are balanced, they make you a limp wristed sissy and you are branded a pariah for using them on anything but a hauler. Ta-da!
-Galan
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Blind Man
Caldari Angel Deep Corporation
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Posted - 2006.08.21 23:27:00 -
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everyone knows ginger is the best pvper in eve, hes so good he dosent even need damage mods you just DIE!!11
KilROCK's Forum Assistant
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Speed Devil
Caldari Liberty Rogues Tactical Narcotics Team
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Posted - 2006.08.21 23:32:00 -
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numero uno pvp'er
doesnt even succeed in taking the shields away of my bestower
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Eepzy Nimbles
Nimbles Covenant
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Posted - 2006.08.21 23:32:00 -
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Who needs scramblers when you can just use a Raven?
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Tehel Necrona
Minmatar Black Omega Security E.R.A
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Posted - 2006.08.21 23:45:00 -
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He's so uber and numero uno, he's lost 8 BS ( that we know of ) in around 23/24 days, that's gotta take some skill. pld Ginger.
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Hast
Destructive Influence Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.08.22 00:06:00 -
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Originally by: Tehel Necrona He's so uber and numero uno, he's lost 8 BS ( that we know of ) in around 23/24 days, that's gotta take some skill. pld Ginger.
it was all to lag and buggy game mechanics, not gingers fault at all!
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Ginger Magician
Minmatar Mentally Unstable Enterprises
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Posted - 2006.08.22 00:47:00 -
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Actually I lost this ship deliberately in order to destroy the falcon which decloaked on top of me and which I knew was there.This ship is the capsule u see on the killmail and it lost a lot of mods as well as the covert ops device which is around a 160mill loss for those involved so I hope it was worht it for u. And I was not scrambled but I was not in alignment becuse i stayed to kill the falcon and then could not warp in time due to being webbed. The reason I fit so many wcs should be obvious from the killmail.To be honest these antipirates are even worse than pirates themselves hanging in system for hours at a time cloaked using many noob corp alts and other exploits and only ever willing to acutally leave jump range of the gate when 10-1 odds in their favour. And then they moan on forums that their targets fit some stabs.It really is pathetic.
Still hurry back and bring some more 160mill ships for me to pop.
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Vladimir Norkoff
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Posted - 2006.08.22 01:40:00 -
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Quote: To be honest these antipirates are even worse than pirates themselves hanging in system for hours at a time cloaked using many noob corp alts and other exploits and only ever willing to acutally leave jump range of the gate when 10-1 odds in their favour.
I'll hazard that your opinion is probably biased in regards to what side of the sniper situation you are on..
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Nigh7F0x
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Posted - 2006.08.22 02:31:00 -
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Edited by: Nigh7F0x on 22/08/2006 02:32:27 Edited by: Nigh7F0x on 22/08/2006 02:31:33
Originally by: Scoundrelus Linking to killboards is not allowed on the forums.
http://Raven.DeBlade.justgotowned.com/ Pwned
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Mista Sexamalicious
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Posted - 2006.08.22 02:48:00 -
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Originally by: Ginger Magician Actually I lost this ship deliberately in order to destroy the falcon which decloaked on top of me and which I knew was there.This ship is the capsule u see on the killmail and it lost a lot of mods as well as the covert ops device which is around a 160mill loss for those involved so I hope it was worht it for u. And I was not scrambled but I was not in alignment becuse i stayed to kill the falcon and then could not warp in time due to being webbed. The reason I fit so many wcs should be obvious from the killmail.To be honest these antipirates are even worse than pirates themselves hanging in system for hours at a time cloaked using many noob corp alts and other exploits and only ever willing to acutally leave jump range of the gate when 10-1 odds in their favour. And then they moan on forums that their targets fit some stabs.It really is pathetic.
Still hurry back and bring some more 160mill ships for me to pop.
Originally by: Nigh7F0x Edited by: Nigh7F0x on 22/08/2006 02:32:27 Edited by: Nigh7F0x on 22/08/2006 02:31:33
Originally by: Scoundrelus Linking to killboards is not allowed on the forums.
http://Raven.DeBlade.justgotowned.com/ Pwned
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Posted - 2006.08.22 04:47:00 -
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only 6 stabs?? you should have fit 7 ____________ FEED me! You know you want to -all posts made on this character represent the views of my main's corp, alliance, as well as the views of everyone else in EVE and in the universe.- |
Awox
Awox Inc.
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Posted - 2006.08.22 04:49:00 -
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Originally by: Jalia Kovac Don't nerf WCS... remove them from the game entirely.
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Gonada
Gallente
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Posted - 2006.08.22 04:55:00 -
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lol , listen to you pathetic fools.
5-6 vs 1, you kill him then gloat brag, admonish him cause he used WCS.
this , of course is the reason why neds like you want wcs removed: you can gang gank so much easier then, you dont have to fit so many scrams, instead you can really max that damage when a bunch of you gang up on a person.
exactly why they will never remove wcs.
suck it up ladies
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Jimmy Doe
Caldari Bladerunners Mordus Angels
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Posted - 2006.08.22 06:20:00 -
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Quote: i stayed to kill the falcon and then could not warp in time due to being webbed.
apparently the best pvper in all of eve doesnt quite comprehend that being webbed HELPS YOU GO INTO WARP FASTER roflmao. you stupid noob.
honestly you talk so much smack in local about being the king, you expect not to come over and spank you like you've been out of kisogo for 2 days. get real oh and btw no that falcon didnt cost 160mil all the stuff on it we produce you turd.
You look at me and you laugh at the noob, but look at your wallet and see that insurance the SCC just paid you for your loss |
Arcticblue2
Gallente Nordic Freelancers inc
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Posted - 2006.08.22 06:36:00 -
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Originally by: Ginger Magician Actually I lost this ship deliberately in order to destroy the falcon which decloaked on top of me and which I knew was there.This ship is the capsule u see on the killmail and it lost a lot of mods as well as the covert ops device which is around a 160mill loss for those involved so I hope it was worht it for u. And I was not scrambled but I was not in alignment becuse i stayed to kill the falcon and then could not warp in time due to being webbed. The reason I fit so many wcs should be obvious from the killmail.To be honest these antipirates are even worse than pirates themselves hanging in system for hours at a time cloaked using many noob corp alts and other exploits and only ever willing to acutally leave jump range of the gate when 10-1 odds in their favour. And then they moan on forums that their targets fit some stabs.It really is pathetic.
Still hurry back and bring some more 160mill ships for me to pop.
A covert-ops device only cost around 57 million isk.. not 160, but if it was a recon ship... I bought a Aruzu to at around 80 million ... I suppose ship+covert ops and some more mods .. it could be 160 millon. ---------------------------------------------- "When I was a child, I spoke as a child, I felt as a child, I thought as a child: now that I am become a man, I have put away childish things." 1 cor. |
Mazare Mircea
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Posted - 2006.08.22 08:00:00 -
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If there were exploits involved why not petition them ? I'm sure the GM's will give they're full and undivided attention, even though they did nerf you're damage especially and increased that of every raven you are fighting - AF too. :)
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Bill Shankly
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Posted - 2006.08.22 08:30:00 -
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Dont remove WCS, Improve them, give us +2.
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Trillian Mcmillan
The Arrow Project The ARR0W Project
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Posted - 2006.08.22 09:11:00 -
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Edited by: Trillian Mcmillan on 22/08/2006 09:11:44
Originally by: Ginger Magician
And I was not scrambled but I was not in alignment becuse i stayed to kill the falcon and then could not warp in time due to being webbed.
I might be rather new to the game compared to the person im quoting but as far as i know being webbed makes your warp FASTER.
From my understanding this is becouse under the effect of a of webber you max speed is reduced so a much lower speed is needed to achive a "full speed align". This is well evident on freighters using friendly webbers to speed up thier align.
Please correct me if im wrong.
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Alliaanna Dalaii
Gallente Does Not Compute
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Posted - 2006.08.22 09:11:00 -
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Originally by: Ginger Magician Actually I lost this ship deliberately in order to destroy the falcon which decloaked on top of me and which I knew was there.This ship is the capsule u see on the killmail and it lost a lot of mods as well as the covert ops device which is around a 160mill loss for those involved so I hope it was worht it for u. And I was not scrambled but I was not in alignment becuse i stayed to kill the falcon and then could not warp in time due to being webbed. The reason I fit so many wcs should be obvious from the killmail.To be honest these antipirates are even worse than pirates themselves hanging in system for hours at a time cloaked using many noob corp alts and other exploits and only ever willing to acutally leave jump range of the gate when 10-1 odds in their favour. And then they moan on forums that their targets fit some stabs.It really is pathetic.
Still hurry back and bring some more 160mill ships for me to pop.
Lol I cant believe I actually commended a few of your posts recently.
So you stayed in a situation to get a kill of a ship knowing full well that you would be unable to collect the loot, Theres 100% risk for 0% possible reward. And i'm sorry but your story doesn't wash anyway and i'm guessing as are many others that its just a pathetic excuse to justify your death.
ffs just take it like a man and accept you got jumped, No one would laugh at you for dieing to all those ships on the killmail ! They will laugh at you for....
#Using 6 bloody stabs on a battleship. #Making up bull**** as to why you died. #Being arrogant
This is how i'd guesse the story really went...
Recon uncloaks on top of Ginger, Ginger decides to try and kill it thinking he's safe with his lows filled with stabs. Ginger then finds his dmg output is bloody ridiculous due to his setup and the rest of gang has time to land on him.
Ginger is dead...
Sound about right ?
Alliaanna DNC Treasure Hunt !!
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Alliaanna Dalaii
Gallente Does Not Compute
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Posted - 2006.08.22 09:14:00 -
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Oh and if i'm wrong and you did indeed stay put just to kill the Recon. Then as far as being a pirate goes you lose
And dont give me "I dont care about my ship its worthless, I wanted the kill" as thats clearly complete rubbish ! Or you wouldn't have packed the stabs would you.
Noob
Alliaanna DNC Treasure Hunt !!
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Jimmy Doe
Caldari Bladerunners Mordus Angels
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Posted - 2006.08.22 09:22:00 -
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1) considering that we build the falcons, and have quite a few cov ops cloaks just sitting around, your ship loss cost a great deal more than the falcon.
2) if you didnt talk so much smack and proclaim yourself the "king" of pirates you wouldnt be ganked so much.
3) i have absolutely no fear of you whatsoever and neither does anyone with half a clue in thier head, you hit like a sissy and stab yourself up so much because you are deathly scared of taking on anyone that might possibly take you down.
youre pathetic and a miserable excuse for a pirate. it really is fun to see a mega go insta pop like you did.
if you have an issue with anything i have to say about you bring it. your words are misused air and reek of moronic excuses. please do us all a favor and stop stealing our oxygen, its the only pirating you seem to be good at.
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Unbeliever Kresmoreen
Communist Vikings Knights Of the Southerncross
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Posted - 2006.08.22 09:28:00 -
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Meh. Just like ECM (and ECCM) im sure CCP did some math before they threw them into the game. Fit WCS, you nerf your build for damage/tank, etc. Same with ecm/eccm, you miss out on other fittings. No IWIN buttons there.
I'm sure most people just troll these threads to get a rise out of people. Hell why not when you're bored at work. They are only ever 1 stab strength, as opposed to their counter which can be two; all with minimal skills required. Being able to indiscriminately lock down any stray battleship with a ****ty frigate until his mates can rock up is imbalanced, completely.
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Riela Tanal
Caldari Darkdust Industries Empire
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Posted - 2006.08.22 21:20:00 -
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Edited by: Riela Tanal on 22/08/2006 21:22:17 Edit: Double post Riela Tanal "Never underestimate the element of surprise"
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Riela Tanal
Caldari Darkdust Industries Empire
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Posted - 2006.08.22 21:20:00 -
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Originally by: Jalia Kovac Don't nerf WCS... remove them from the game entirely.
In otherwords just cause you have a warp scrambler no counter module should exist in the game? Sounds unbalanced to me to have something without a module counter. In my opinion, WCS are balanced as low slots can be used for other things and its my understanding that people that complain that WCS need to be nerfed are those too lazy to get more tacklers or fit an extra scrambler. If you want to hold people that fit alot of stabs then counter it by getting more scramblers and a small percentage even use stabs in combat. I personally have rarely if at all use them due to the fact that I need the slots for other things. If they want to fill their low slots with Stabs then let them, it makes them weaker in terms of ship stats. As the usual quote for this game, "Adapt or die" it is as simple as that. Riela Tanal "Never underestimate the element of surprise"
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Raven DeBlade
Caldari Bladerunners Mordus Angels
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Posted - 2006.08.22 21:33:00 -
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WCS shouldnt be removed, never said that, but penalty for using them and especially several should be so high that you cant use them as an "insurance" in PVP. Use WCS for travel etc but they dont belong in PVP.
"To hunt pirates you need time and patience, because even monkeys fall from the trees" |
Nahia Senne
Fortunis Novum Black Flag Alliance
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Posted - 2006.08.22 21:48:00 -
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so you guys lost recon cruiser + recon cloak just to kill one fully insured BS?
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Anna Bok
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Posted - 2006.08.23 04:16:00 -
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Haha priceless
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Murukan
Minmatar The Priory
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Posted - 2006.08.23 07:24:00 -
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WCS should be removed. If you don't want to risk dieing then it's simple, don't go into low sec.
In rust we trust!!! |
Gabriel Sword
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Posted - 2006.08.23 09:12:00 -
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Ok letÆs set the record straight
Ginger had spent all day in the system doing what he dose best killing noobs. I have been watching him most of the day and pinpointing most of his sniping spots. I also knew from the last encounter with this awesome PVPer that I would need to fit a minimum of 3 +2 warp scramblers. Now being a Bladerunner I must defend the week when ever I can.
Now the trap was set Ginger and his sidekick Sprungle Spormen were doing their PVP but keep changing snipe spot and warping in and out I presume this was due to the noobs causing them dmg at 230km from the target in their haulers of doom anyway back to the story. Ginger warped out to repair his ego but Sprungle was still there sitting stationary in his Geddon I closed the distance and we were ready to pounce. The order was given to decloak and scramble the target but just before I did the main pray returned Ginger so everything was put on old for 2 mins while a closed on the new pray. Once within range I decloaked and the trap was sprung target locked and scrambled 3 +2 scramblers = to 6 WCS yes I did lose a falcon, the reason for this was I had to stay to scramble the mega which was tech 2 fitted 425s my jammers failed which is a pain but part of the game if they jammed every time you would all cry nerf jammers. But we did get Ginger who had lost his second tech 2 fitted Mega in a day must be over 300mill. Yes it would be good if WCS were nerfed so you can fit them but your offensive capability was nerfed I will admit to fitting WCS but only on my haulers when flying through 0.0 which I feel this is fine as 0.0 has flycatchers and warp bubbles to counter act WCS. But my main point to Ginger is if the loss did not bother you then why did you spam me with your other two alts telling me I was going to die and that your 4 man corp was going to wardec our alliance and bring it to its knees. I feel Ginger need to wake up from his dream of superior tactics and pvp skills and smell the roses. Next time you see me or any Blade in local be afraid because no matter how many WCS you fit I will scramble you and you will lose your ship be it on a gate camp or in you so called safe spots because I have them all. I donÆt know if you have worked out how to use the scanner but look for probes as well as haulers .
Oh and your sidekick will also lose his ship
Regards
Gabriel
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HippoKing
Caldari Beagle Corp
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Posted - 2006.08.23 10:43:00 -
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Much as I hate to be saying this (particularly given the setup), if he did kill a properly fitted falcon, he inflicted more ISK loss on his attackers than he lost. In a 5v1.
Honestly, if I was the blades, I'd reconsider laughing at him if I lost a falcon in a 5v1 to a megathron fitted with 6 WCS.
Of course, from where I am, I'll laugh at both of you
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Deja Thoris
Contraband Inc. Mercenary Coalition
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Posted - 2006.08.23 11:17:00 -
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Originally by: HippoKing Much as I hate to be saying this (particularly given the setup), if he did kill a properly fitted falcon, he inflicted more ISK loss on his attackers than he lost. In a 5v1.
Honestly, if I was the blades, I'd reconsider laughing at him if I lost a falcon in a 5v1 to a megathron fitted with 6 WCS.
Of course, from where I am, I'll laugh at both of you
ISK be damned, the pleasure in taking down a stab ***** is worth ISK loss. Theres few things more satisfying than knowing that ***** is clicking warp safe in the knowledge his *6* stabs are going to save him and they dont
In addition 7*425 t2 rails now sell for in the region of 90mill ISK (13 mill per) where a cloak costs 60mill or less. If the blades have a falcon bpo they did indeed lose less than whinger.
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Alliaanna Dalaii
Gallente Does Not Compute
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Posted - 2006.08.23 11:24:00 -
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Originally by: Deja Thoris
Originally by: HippoKing Much as I hate to be saying this (particularly given the setup), if he did kill a properly fitted falcon, he inflicted more ISK loss on his attackers than he lost. In a 5v1.
Honestly, if I was the blades, I'd reconsider laughing at him if I lost a falcon in a 5v1 to a megathron fitted with 6 WCS.
Of course, from where I am, I'll laugh at both of you
ISK be damned, the pleasure in taking down a stab ***** is worth ISK loss. Theres few things more satisfying than knowing that ***** is clicking warp safe in the knowledge his *6* stabs are going to save him and they dont
In addition 7*425 t2 rails now sell for in the region of 90mill ISK (13 mill per) where a cloak costs 60mill or less. If the blades have a falcon bpo they did indeed lose less than whinger.
To Hippoking and Deja all of that is completely irrelivant.
Ginger is a pirate, His ISK comes FROM his pirating.. Something not true for i'd imagine any of the blade members as there isk at a guesse comes from grinding. And they pay for their PvP.
Ginger lost isk for no gain, Whether you killed something is completely irrelivant. As a pirate he still lost ! He could have killed a dread, but if he didn't get any loot from it he still got owned in any sense of the matter.
Alliaanna DNC Treasure Hunt !!
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Sjorovar Birger
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Posted - 2006.08.23 11:27:00 -
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Originally by: Trillian Mcmillan Edited by: Trillian Mcmillan on 22/08/2006 09:11:44
Originally by: Ginger Magician
And I was not scrambled but I was not in alignment becuse i stayed to kill the falcon and then could not warp in time due to being webbed.
I might be rather new to the game compared to the person im quoting but as far as i know being webbed makes your warp FASTER.
From my understanding this is becouse under the effect of a of webber you max speed is reduced so a much lower speed is needed to achive a "full speed align". This is well evident on freighters using friendly webbers to speed up thier align.
Please correct me if im wrong.
Correct. Unless his current speed was way above the ships current max speed and he wasn't aligned at any specific direction. This happens sometimes when you've de-actived your AB/MWD and the cycle has just ended - maybe even get webbed at the same moment. In a case like that it'll take you forever (almost always long enough to die) to warp to anything not positioned straight in front of you. This is my personal experience with the universe of Eve and I'm not trying to prove either one of you wrong nor right.
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Alexander Kiernov
Minmatar The Movement
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Posted - 2006.08.23 11:29:00 -
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Hmmm... Seems like there's a problem posting with the right character atm, the poster above is actually me.
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HippoKing
Caldari Beagle Corp
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Posted - 2006.08.23 11:54:00 -
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I just can't see a group that lost a falcon when attacking a 6 stabbed megathron 5v1 (3 BSs, 1 recon, 1 HAC) having any right to laugh at the setup involved.
If I tooled my falcon with 4 strength 2 scrams, a web and only 2 racial ECMs (or maybe TDs), with that gang support ing me, it would take god knows how many failed cycles for that megathron to get near killing me. On the other hand, that gang should remove a megathron with zero tank is seconds. Don't even ask me to point at the warp scrambler on Ginger's setup.
As for "if they have a falcon BPO", that doesn't mean jack in terms of amounts of lost ISK. They could have sold that falcon for market price, so that's what the loss is worth. A decently fitted falcon costs more to lose than an insured t2ed megathron.
Sure, Ginger deserves everything he gets, and that setup is truly disgusting, but having lost the falcon to kill it, I'm sorry to say the attackers lose any gloating rights over it.
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Alliaanna Dalaii
Gallente Does Not Compute
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Posted - 2006.08.23 12:05:00 -
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Kinda of agreeed as to the Op Hippo, It was a gank.. nothing more. And they took losses.
But considering Ginger likes to believe he's Eve's best PvP'er... (I'm sorry but 6 stabbed Bs's dont go down well in my book) I find it kinda funny
That being said he IS Eve's most notorious pirate without a dought, Got to give him credit for that.
Alliaanna
I personally would like to see a 1 V 1...
Daniel Jackson V Ginger Magician With Wubba recording fraps
DNC Treasure Hunt !!
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HippoKing
Caldari Beagle Corp
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Posted - 2006.08.23 12:16:00 -
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I think I need to meet this wubbaa guy. Everyone seems to talk about him, but I've never actually been able to laugh at him personally in the same way I have with DJ and Ginger.
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Alliaanna Dalaii
Gallente Does Not Compute
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Posted - 2006.08.23 12:19:00 -
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Originally by: HippoKing I think I need to meet this wubbaa guy. Everyone seems to talk about him, but I've never actually been able to laugh at him personally in the same way I have with DJ and Ginger.
Well DJ is clearly insane,
so you'd think he was crap at PvP right... you know how it is. Halfway through a fight an insane guy decides.. "He doesn't need weapons, I'm going to use my jedi powers to make that ship explode" (or is that just me ? )
Well.... He beat Wubbaa
Alliaanna DNC Treasure Hunt !!
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Apollo Balthar
Minmatar The Bratwurst Burglars
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Posted - 2006.08.23 13:22:00 -
[66]
Originally by: Alliaanna Dalaii
Originally by: Ginger Magician Actually I lost this ship deliberately in order to destroy the falcon which decloaked on top of me and which I knew was there.This ship is the capsule u see on the killmail and it lost a lot of mods as well as the covert ops device which is around a 160mill loss for those involved so I hope it was worht it for u. And I was not scrambled but I was not in alignment becuse i stayed to kill the falcon and then could not warp in time due to being webbed. The reason I fit so many wcs should be obvious from the killmail.To be honest these antipirates are even worse than pirates themselves hanging in system for hours at a time cloaked using many noob corp alts and other exploits and only ever willing to acutally leave jump range of the gate when 10-1 odds in their favour. And then they moan on forums that their targets fit some stabs.It really is pathetic.
Still hurry back and bring some more 160mill ships for me to pop.
Lol I cant believe I actually commended a few of your posts recently.
So you stayed in a situation to get a kill of a ship knowing full well that you would be unable to collect the loot, Theres 100% risk for 0% possible reward. And i'm sorry but your story doesn't wash anyway and i'm guessing as are many others that its just a pathetic excuse to justify your death.
ffs just take it like a man and accept you got jumped, No one would laugh at you for dieing to all those ships on the killmail ! They will laugh at you for....
#Using 6 bloody stabs on a battleship. #Making up bull**** as to why you died. #Being arrogant
This is how i'd guesse the story really went...
Recon uncloaks on top of Ginger, Ginger decides to try and kill it thinking he's safe with his lows filled with stabs. Ginger then finds his dmg output is bloody ridiculous due to his setup and the rest of gang has time to land on him.
Ginger is dead...
Sound about right ?
Alliaanna
Yeh, I find this version much easier on my common sense muscle
This post represent my own, my Corporation's, my mother's and my father's, my mates' and the royal families'point of view.
Now shut up and be happy!
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Famine Aligher'ri
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Posted - 2006.08.23 13:31:00 -
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Why a number of you are slamming Ginger, I will never understand. Most of you can't fight so you must gank. If WCS's are gone, what new excuse will you have to blame you're poor skills on when having to gank 24-7? There is a reason people fit WCS's on battleships. Mainly, it's to stop a number of popular corps/alliances/factions from ganking them in 2 seconds. If you want to nerf WCS's then that's cool, maybe I would get more kills from the people who slam me for wearing WCS's (V, KOS, and ETC).
Until then, the only thing maybe helping kill pvp in EVE is the number of new pilots who can't fight that will never fight you solo that fly always in a squad, gang, and fleet. On top of that, they wont fight unless they out number you all together.
I support WCS's. So I guess I support Ginger. I still kill any of you solo :)
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Deja Thoris
Contraband Inc. Mercenary Coalition
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Posted - 2006.08.23 14:14:00 -
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Originally by: Famine Aligher'ri Why a number of you are slamming Ginger, I will never understand. Most of you can't fight so you must gank. If WCS's are gone, what new excuse will you have to blame you're poor skills on when having to gank 24-7? There is a reason people fit WCS's on battleships. Mainly, it's to stop a number of popular corps/alliances/factions from ganking them in 2 seconds. If you want to nerf WCS's then that's cool, maybe I would get more kills from the people who slam me for wearing WCS's (V, KOS, and ETC).
Until then, the only thing maybe helping kill pvp in EVE is the number of new pilots who can't fight that will never fight you solo that fly always in a squad, gang, and fleet. On top of that, they wont fight unless they out number you all together.
I support WCS's. So I guess I support Ginger. I still kill any of you solo :)
Your logic is flawed. Ginger is the ganker who wont fight, people know he packs stabs, hence the blob to hold him.
As the for the rest of your post, what bull****.
Especially the last bit, I know dozens of people that have an at least even shot of beating you solo.
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Famine Aligher'ri
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Posted - 2006.08.23 14:53:00 -
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Originally by: Deja Thoris
Originally by: Famine Aligher'ri Why a number of you are slamming Ginger, I will never understand. Most of you can't fight so you must gank. If WCS's are gone, what new excuse will you have to blame you're poor skills on when having to gank 24-7? There is a reason people fit WCS's on battleships. Mainly, it's to stop a number of popular corps/alliances/factions from ganking them in 2 seconds. If you want to nerf WCS's then that's cool, maybe I would get more kills from the people who slam me for wearing WCS's (V, KOS, and ETC).
Until then, the only thing maybe helping kill pvp in EVE is the number of new pilots who can't fight that will never fight you solo that fly always in a squad, gang, and fleet. On top of that, they wont fight unless they out number you all together.
I support WCS's. So I guess I support Ginger. I still kill any of you solo :)
Your logic is flawed. Ginger is the ganker who wont fight, people know he packs stabs, hence the blob to hold him.
As the for the rest of your post, what bull****.
Especially the last bit, I know dozens of people that have an at least even shot of beating you solo.
I'm not immortal, obviously you got I was immortal out of my post. Yes, I have been beaten solo, but yeah I AM solo. My logic however is not flawed, it's just above your level.
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Lienzo
Minmatar Interstellar Starbase Syndicate
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Posted - 2006.08.23 15:32:00 -
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Scramblers are old school.
It's all webbers and bubbles now.
Republic Fleet phases out obsolete Vigils.
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Deja Thoris
Contraband Inc. Mercenary Coalition
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Posted - 2006.08.23 16:18:00 -
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Originally by: Famine Aligher'ri My logic however is not flawed, it's just above your level.
Presumptuous slave
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Lobster Man
VentureCorp CORE.
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Posted - 2006.08.23 16:26:00 -
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I somehow managed to jump my domi through ec-p8r the other day, there was a 15 or so man gate camp, and I was packing 7 stabs. They're indispensible for travel setups, but *** as anything when you're fighting a vagabond with 3 of them.
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Gabriel Sword
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Posted - 2006.08.24 08:42:00 -
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Your all missing the point.
Ginger had 6 stabs on sat out at 240k ish
1 The noobs had no chance of shooting back or defending against this so called PvPer.
2 He had 6 stabs fitted. This is stupid can any PvPer tell me they would fit 6 stabs. And I said PVPer not alt noob you know who you are!!!.
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Zibun Ionic
Minmatar Cloaca Maxima
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Posted - 2006.08.24 11:14:00 -
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I laugh at whole thread.
Why in seven hells someones wants WCS's to be nerfed or removed? People can fit them as many as they want, it is all off from ships combat capability.
Fit more scrammers you idiots.
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Cheyenne Shadowborn
Caldari Citizens of E.A.R.T.H. E.A.R.T.H. Federation
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Posted - 2006.08.24 11:24:00 -
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Originally by: Raven DeBlade Edited by: Raven DeBlade on 21/08/2006 21:35:44 Here is the reason why Warp Core Stabs need to be nerfed, its just pathetic, you should be ashamed Ginger. i mean... not 1, not 2, not 3, not 4, not 5... but 6 (SIX) Warp Core Stabs fitted... Maybe get a Geddon, they have 8 low slots for all your WCS needs...
*snip* Please donŠt link to killboards - Cortes
So your reason for nerfing stabs is that everyone who has more stab points than you have scram points - eventhough they entirely bork their setup - is somehow not playing fair? Pleeeease. --
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Dixon
Caldari
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Posted - 2006.08.24 12:20:00 -
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Originally by: Ginger Magician Actually I lost this ship deliberately in order to destroy the falcon which decloaked on top of me and which I knew was there.This ship is the capsule u see on the killmail and it lost a lot of mods as well as the covert ops device which is around a 160mill loss for those involved so I hope it was worht it for u. And I was not scrambled but I was not in alignment becuse i stayed to kill the falcon and then could not warp in time due to being webbed. The reason I fit so many wcs should be obvious from the killmail.To be honest these antipirates are even worse than pirates themselves hanging in system for hours at a time cloaked using many noob corp alts and other exploits and only ever willing to acutally leave jump range of the gate when 10-1 odds in their favour. And then they moan on forums that their targets fit some stabs.It really is pathetic.
Still hurry back and bring some more 160mill ships for me to pop.
Actually I agree with Ginger here, Anti-pirates are usually the lamest of the lame. Even Ginger in his stabbed-up sniperthron doesn't outlame them. Sure he used WCS, but he didn't warp and he managed a nice consolation kill in the process - good for him. - - - - - - I have no strong feelings one way or the other... |
Celeste Storm
Gallente Elite United Corp Antigo Dominion
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Posted - 2006.08.24 14:19:00 -
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Edited by: Celeste Storm on 24/08/2006 14:19:58
Originally by: Dixon
Originally by: Ginger Magician Actually I lost this ship deliberately in order to destroy the falcon which decloaked on top of me and which I knew was there.This ship is the capsule u see on the killmail and it lost a lot of mods as well as the covert ops device which is around a 160mill loss for those involved so I hope it was worht it for u. And I was not scrambled but I was not in alignment becuse i stayed to kill the falcon and then could not warp in time due to being webbed. The reason I fit so many wcs should be obvious from the killmail.To be honest these antipirates are even worse than pirates themselves hanging in system for hours at a time cloaked using many noob corp alts and other exploits and only ever willing to acutally leave jump range of the gate when 10-1 odds in their favour. And then they moan on forums that their targets fit some stabs.It really is pathetic.
Still hurry back and bring some more 160mill ships for me to pop.
Actually I agree with Ginger here, Anti-pirates are usually the lamest of the lame. Even Ginger in his stabbed-up sniperthron doesn't outlame them. Sure he used WCS, but he didn't warp and he managed a nice consolation kill in the process - good for him.
I hate to agree, but thats true. Damn Ginger might be an nubkiller and gate lamer but he didnt warped out and took a recon with him. I find it rather rediciolous when people start saying: "Its no loss... blabla... we got a bpo... bla...". The truth is, ur whole gank squad was not able to finish him off before he took out one of ur most expensive ships.
In this special case my sympathy goes to Ginger.
Cel.
whiners make m3 s!ck | Do you like farmers?
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Ryle
Caldari Veto.
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Posted - 2006.08.24 16:09:00 -
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Originally by: Yarek Balear I've said it before, and I'll say it again... Change the WCS so that if you engage they don't function for 30-60 seconds after aggression finishes (like docking/gate jumping).
This stops people shooting then running like a girl when they realise they're beat, but also means that people who are simply travelling about and aren't interested in fighting do not get hampered. Hopefully this'd change the focus on WCS to travel only setups.
This is the only post in this thread worth reading.
WCS on combat ships are for the cowardly or people without confidance in their own setups. WCS on travel ships are fine.
You should not be able to have a viable combat setup fitting any more than 1 WCS. Perhaps impose a stacking CPU penalty when using more than one? 2nd one uses 2x the CPU, third uses 4x, etc. This would place a solid limit on their use, and make combat ships unable to fit more than 1 without severely damaging their damage and tanking abilities. ------------------------------- -If you're going through Hell... Keep going.- |
Deja Thoris
Contraband Inc. Mercenary Coalition
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Posted - 2006.08.24 16:38:00 -
[79]
Originally by: Dixon
Actually I agree with Ginger here, Anti-pirates are usually the lamest of the lame. Even Ginger in his stabbed-up sniperthron doesn't outlame them. Sure he used WCS, but he didn't warp and he managed a nice consolation kill in the process - good for him.
He didnt warp because he was scrambled (duh!)
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Famine Aligher'ri
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Posted - 2006.08.24 17:40:00 -
[80]
Originally by: Ryle
Originally by: Yarek Balear I've said it before, and I'll say it again... Change the WCS so that if you engage they don't function for 30-60 seconds after aggression finishes (like docking/gate jumping).
This stops people shooting then running like a girl when they realise they're beat, but also means that people who are simply travelling about and aren't interested in fighting do not get hampered. Hopefully this'd change the focus on WCS to travel only setups.
This is the only post in this thread worth reading.
WCS on combat ships are for the cowardly or people without confidance in their own setups. WCS on travel ships are fine.
I don't know, I tend to think people who don't fly solo are more of a coward than someone solo with 2xWCS's. Eve is about massive fleet combat, faction control, and all that good stuff. No love for the solo pilot. Then again, majority of the pilots in eve just hug gates/stations and use insta bookmarks. Then have the nerve to call a WCS user a coward when they're lone and yet you are on a gate holding hands with 4 other pilots who are just like you :)
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Dixon
Caldari
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Posted - 2006.08.24 17:44:00 -
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Originally by: Deja Thoris
Originally by: Dixon
Actually I agree with Ginger here, Anti-pirates are usually the lamest of the lame. Even Ginger in his stabbed-up sniperthron doesn't outlame them. Sure he used WCS, but he didn't warp and he managed a nice consolation kill in the process - good for him.
He didnt warp because he was scrambled (duh!)
Actually neither of us know if he actually was 'scrambled enough'.
But the fact that 'anti-pirates' ganked him and he still managed to take that falcon out isn't something for the gank-side to be proud of. Even if they justify their ganking with 'omg he's like worse and stuff'. - - - - - - I have no strong feelings one way or the other... |
xenodia
Gallente Trinity Nova
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Posted - 2006.08.24 18:04:00 -
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I dont mind the concept of WCS, and as long as warp scramblers work the way they do you HAVE to have some form of counter, but there really should be a limit to how many you can fit, and it should be something other than the number of low slots you have.
Maybe a stacking penalty that makes them useless after 3 or 4. Youd still have a lot of people with 4 stab setups, but at least you can kill those with a reasonable amount of tackling.
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Nahia Senne
Fortunis Novum Black Flag Alliance
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Posted - 2006.08.24 19:24:00 -
[83]
Originally by: Dixon But the fact that 'anti-pirates' ganked him and he still managed to take that falcon out isn't something for the gank-side to be proud of. Even if they justify their ganking with 'omg he's like worse and stuff'.
non the less, falcon was ganked with *drumroooool* rails at close range!
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Raith Seinar
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Posted - 2006.08.24 19:46:00 -
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Edited by: Raith Seinar on 24/08/2006 19:47:26
Originally by: xenodia I dont mind the concept of WCS, and as long as warp scramblers work the way they do you HAVE to have some form of counter, but there really should be a limit to how many you can fit, and it should be something other than the number of low slots you have.
Maybe a stacking penalty that makes them useless after 3 or 4. Youd still have a lot of people with 4 stab setups, but at least you can kill those with a reasonable amount of tackling.
{edit} ffs, the forums are acting up again. Basically my long post I just lost was along the lines of "fair enough, but instead of nerfing let's make a note of that setup and next time come back with a better setup of our own." {/edit}
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Raven DeBlade
Caldari Bladerunners Mordus Angels
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Posted - 2006.08.24 22:25:00 -
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Originally by: Nahia Senne
Originally by: Dixon But the fact that 'anti-pirates' ganked him and he still managed to take that falcon out isn't something for the gank-side to be proud of. Even if they justify their ganking with 'omg he's like worse and stuff'.
non the less, falcon was ganked with *drumroooool* rails at close range!
No, he had a friend in a Armageddon there also.
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Zwap Latte
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Posted - 2006.08.24 22:45:00 -
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Originally by: Murukan WCS should be removed. If you don't want to risk dieing then it's simple, don't go into low sec.
Oh yes of course, EVE is a PVP game only. That's why all those other kinds of ships and modules and trading goods are in the game. All fun and giggles, just some passtime from the devs. Ever thought about the fact some people don't want to PvP, but do want to play the game and see the whole place they're actually paying for ? I don't want to think how boring EVE would be if everyone would just zoom around low sec, killing off eachother, just because some people don't like mining/trading/building/just exploring EVE for the fun of it.
I can't even go take a look what it's like in 0.0, because I'll just get killed before I even get there. And I'm not willing to spend all that skill training, just to go take a look. Not atm, and not in the near future either
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Adoro
Reunited
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Posted - 2006.08.24 23:10:00 -
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Edited by: Adoro on 24/08/2006 23:10:47 Rofl, reading his bio right now...pathetic guy...arrogant ****. People like that really annoy me. Best pvper Ginger? 1on1? --------
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Devian 666
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Posted - 2006.08.25 01:07:00 -
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Originally by: Zwap Latte
Originally by: Murukan WCS should be removed. If you don't want to risk dieing then it's simple, don't go into low sec.
Oh yes of course, EVE is a PVP game only. That's why all those other kinds of ships and modules and trading goods are in the game. All fun and giggles, just some passtime from the devs. Ever thought about the fact some people don't want to PvP, but do want to play the game and see the whole place they're actually paying for ? I don't want to think how boring EVE would be if everyone would just zoom around low sec, killing off eachother, just because some people don't like mining/trading/building/just exploring EVE for the fun of it.
I can't even go take a look what it's like in 0.0, because I'll just get killed before I even get there. And I'm not willing to spend all that skill training, just to go take a look. Not atm, and not in the near future either
If you go 0.4 to 0.0 you are either looking for a fight or looking to evade a fight. If I'm in the mood to just go exploring in 0.0 I put a mwd in a t1 frig. Doesn't take much in the way of skills. Then again in one 0.4 system everyone docks and logs when I turn up, even if I'm in a hauler
I interpret all the whining about Ginger are people wanting him to improve his sniper set up. Fair enough. The so called anti pies are just whining because they have to fill their mid slots with enough scrams to lock him down and he makes it difficult for them to take him out. Ya whatever who cares about his setup.
Gate snipers are good at making people angry so it seems he's done his job.
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Core
Celestial Horizon Corp. Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2006.08.25 01:22:00 -
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WCs need nerf badly Im so sick of these noobs who think they are elite by sitting out 190km in low sec with 7 stabs on a macherial and you virtually have no chance of killing them.
on top of that dictors + mobile bubbles dont work in low sec...
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Devian 666
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Posted - 2006.08.25 03:31:00 -
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I agree that wcs need to be changed. If wcs worked like jamming (but still as a passive unit). You put 2 points of scram on someone with 6 wcs you still have a chance of scramming rather than 0. Though only 2 points of scram should have a low probably of succeeding. Whereas 6 points of scram vs. 6 x wcs should have say 40-50% chance of working.
Thought if this happend then 2 points of scram vs. 1 x wcs should still have a chance of failing to scramble albeit a low probability. I'm tired of using 2-3 20 km disruptors and having no chance against an elite hauler.
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Blind Man
Caldari Angel Deep Corporation
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Posted - 2006.08.25 03:49:00 -
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'Mentally Unstable Enterprises has declared war on Angel Deep Corporation. After 24 hours fighting can legally occur between those involved.'
Too bad I'm not here for the first week of stab collecting :(
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Nymos
Celtic Anarchy Black Reign Syndicate
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Posted - 2006.08.25 07:21:00 -
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Originally by: HippoKing As for "if they have a falcon BPO", that doesn't mean jack in terms of amounts of lost ISK. They could have sold that falcon for market price, so that's what the loss is worth.
yes, ppl tend to think that stuff you build yourself is free. it's not. it's still its market value, so called opportunity costs, even if you mine all the minerals yourself.
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vickers
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Posted - 2006.08.25 20:15:00 -
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well i picked up ginger down in hagular when we had a war in that area whith a corp. he actualy is not as bad on vent as in local and i have tryed to reform his wcs smacking ways .and i thort i was having some sucsess untill i was directed to this and similar posts about his behavior .in light of this i have decided to boot ginger from my corp not as a result of who he has ****ed of but simply for the crime of bringing my corp in to disrepute .we are not wcs *****'s or smacktalkers and such ppl are not welcome in the mental house
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Kriz Lupin
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Posted - 2006.08.25 23:05:00 -
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I am not a great fan of wcs, lost a lot of kills due to my target having them fitted.
But, tbh, all those complaining get on my nerves.
Your gank didn't work? Fit more scrams ffs.
Someone is set up to snipe and set to run if a gank shows up, so what?
Maybe ccp needs to introduce a "cuddle to death" module or a "i chose what mods you can fit" module.
If you cant kill your target, change your setup....its pretty simple.
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