Are you drunk, or just stupid?

. Learn to use dscan often stay aligned out to something.

Don't wormholers make enough already? I thought they pulled in like a billion per person per hour.

Honestly, I would like to see the sleeper components be used to build T3s rather then NPC sell orders.

Edit: So this is mainly for the smaller wormholes? I don't know enough of wormhole life - only that I have been told we could make billions daily with fairly low risk.

I don't think the increase in blue loots will pull that many folks back into wh. They left for non isk reasons, so adding isk isn't going to pull them back in. I base that on the null model where there are countless systems full of anoms and vacant of pilots due to blue donut dullery. Adding more better red plus signs only brings so many folks back. If you want that to work you would have to totally gut HS incursions.

Many ppl left WH cause of Hyperion wich directly increased the risk vs reward ratio ergo lower ISK per hour so by increasing the ISK (reward), I think it is pretty good now.

lmao no one left WHs because rolling holes is too hard. Even if they did, Higgs rigs will now put battleship roundtrips at 500m kg. If a C5 corp can't get 6 people together in battleships to roll their static, I don't know what to say.

Can't wait for all the influx of daytrippers thinking that w-space is a easy ISK

Dont forget your d-scan

I was already preparing to move into a low class WH in the next week or two, so this is great timing. I'll be able to cover the cost of POS fuel much quicker and the extra ISK can go towards ship replacements or better hulls.

Can you make a billion isk / hour running sleeper escallations? - yes.

lmao no one left WHs because rolling holes is too hard. Even if they did, Higgs rigs will now put battleship roundtrips at 500m kg. If a C5 corp can't get 6 people together in battleships to roll their static, I don't know what to say.

If your rolling a C5 with only battleships then you are dumb. you need two guys to roll a C5 connection (assuming average mass on the hole)

The issue is the time needed to roll a hole (its not much more than before but its enough to make you wonder why your doing it) then the time needed to scan the chain which now, thanks to Hyperion, contains far more empty WH's than ever before. Quite frankly it feels like a job as opposed to a game.

Our corp has gotten to the point where we are looking for K-space connections just to go PvPing over looking for WH entities.

It sounds like a lot of ISK, bu tlike Serendipity wrote in one of his Posts above: The number of available anoms is limited. It's not like Null where you have more anoms and signatures than you often can do (depending on size of your corp). It's the opposite. Taking the nubmer of 2 new anoms per day (which from my experience is realistic in low-class wormholes) we are talking about an possible extra of 10-15M ISK / day in many cases as low-class wormholes often have statics to K-Space, so you can not "roll" your static to farm it. That's it. Only C2 may be viable for this, but C2 has more incoming wormholes as well since Hyperion (i.e. as a small (1-5man) corp you will not run anoms / gravimetrics when you expect intruders) and rolling your C1 or C2 statics is a pain in the ass, especially C1 statics. It's not like higher class wormholes, where you jump 1-2 times and the static is down. And to roll C2 statics much faster is not worth the effort of haveing the number of People in your wormhole to do so, because you can not feed them.

I could give some furhter reasons / explainations, but that shouldn't be necessary.

So please don't freak out because of just some ISK! It will not change much! That's why they have to increase the buy orders so much, because even that "big" step is just a very small one in reality.

Hi,

If you need an escort while you setup your pos or need help getting ships in let me know the K entrance and time and I'll get someone over to help you in.

But if you do need some guidance on wormholes, POS setups etc message me in game.

I am not whining, just trying to get some guys like you back down to earth, who do not look on the numbers / reality and just see a gross increase and scream like little fanboys, but when it comes to the net increase you have to realise it is not a "major buff". Go check the figures I posted above!

While I really love that the change will most likely help low-class WH inhabitants and daytrippers, I feel that doing it via NPC buy orders should be the last resort. There shoud be some more creative and interactive way (I know they are not mutually exclusive). If anything I wish we could get rid of NPC buy orders for blue loot completely and have everything in wspace derive value from player driven market.

Hey everyone. This is the out of character counterpart to the in-character news report posted here.

In-character, CONCORD has been troubled by the reports that capsuleers have been collecting Sleeper Blue Loot for their own purposes, especially that capsuleers attempted to compete with the four empires in the recent research race. They would much prefer that all Capsuleers pass their Blue Loot on to the qualified authorities instead of worrying their pretty little heads by investigating these items themselves.
As such, CONCORD has been in discussion with all the corporations that are officially licensed to purchase Blue Loot, and they are going to increase their payments for Neural Network Analyzers and Sleeper Data Libraries to encourage Capsuleers to do the right thing and get their loot to their local authorized collection agency.

Out of character, this means that as of Phoebe on November 4th, NPC buy orders for Neural Network Analyzers will pay out 200,000 isk and Sleeper Data Libraries will be purchased for 500,000 isk. This should provide a very significant effect on income in the lower class wormholes without having a very large percentage increase in the income of higher class wormholes.

Thanks Brutus. I won't know the time ahead of time, as it will just be whatever night I find an empty C2 and can spend the hour or so setting up the POS and moving things in. I appreciate the offer though, and will keep you in mind if I have questions.

Don't wormholers make enough already? I thought they pulled in like a billion per person per hour.

Honestly, I would like to see the sleeper components be used to build T3s rather then NPC sell orders.

Edit: So this is mainly for the smaller wormholes? I don't know enough of wormhole life - only that I have been told we could make billions daily with fairly low risk.

I have lived in holes for almost 4 years, ok? We do NOT make a bil ISK per hour per player...

I think that if CCP Fozzie had a brain he would have done Hyperion as a mixture of carrot and stick. Instead we got beaten down with hyperion, and now the abusive spouse is promising he's changed and is slinging us roses and chocolates to get us back.

however, I estimate I could make about 50-65M an hour soloing C2 sites when the blue poo buff comes through. Or, to clarify, i am already making 50-65M an hour, i just haven't sold the poo yet.

As for ISK/hour, I easily ran slightly more than 3 anoms per hour solo, with the new values this should be close to 400m/hour. Pretty decent.