Originally by: Avernus

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The QDF forums were originally hosted by Black Avatar, who at the time held the 2 of the stations in Querious, the third being held by my own corp.

The FIX forums were setup by S3VYN, who is in my corp. There were no forums inbetween the existance of these two. The only confusion would likely have come from when Black Avatar left Querious to join FA; if I remember right, the FIX forums came into existance right around the time of the CFS war.

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Originally by: welsh wizard

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Edited by: welsh wizard on 23/08/2006 17:37:36
It's been nothing but civil and courteous in Fountain so far though. I haven't see Metal Dude yet however. :P

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Originally by: Quutar

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How many honest rivaly or grudges are there in eve? I am curious about long standing wars or fights that have had the exact cause lost in time, or lost meaning, such that the fighting is there becasue it has always been.

I know that alot of fights and wars are not personal, such that afterwards oponents might become allies agaist a different foe. But what are the grudge fights in eve? the wars that will never truely end, just pause?

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Originally by: Blacklight

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BNC & Geeklab from the old ORS pre NORAD days. Most old school BNC would probably still drop everything to go lay into Geeklab if we thought they were ever acheiving anything significant.

BNC & KIA has always had a 'fairly friendly' rivalry and we've pretty much always been hostile to each other, despite recruiting half their old school membership no self respecting BNC pilot will ever miss an opportunity to shoot at them.

BoB & PA, needs no explanation really.... but I have to say... WE WERE RIGHT

BoB & G/D2, have a lot of respect for each other but will still be hostile the day the servers get turned off, there was a tremendous clash of styles and philosophies between us following the GNW.

BoB & SA, a fairly new grudge but we won't forget Orc A's treachery for a very very long time.

BoB vs Celes, certainly BNC and RKK will never forgive them for looking the other way at the start of the GNW and not backing RKK against PA (and we were right in the end, the cause would have been just but Celes turned their back on RKK, as a BNC pilot I'll never forgive them for that goodness knows how the old school RKK feel). Nothing like falling out with a mate to create a serious grudge. The opportunity to back RKK came before m0o got involved as well so that old smoke screen still cuts no ice. I wonder how many people know that's the original reason for the rift

(N.B. people do need to remember this is all in game stuff only, you got's to keep your hate in perspective )

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Originally by: Plim

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Hi mental dude ^_^

How could we hate a fluffy rabbit.

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Originally by: welsh wizard

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Funny how things work out, you should be glad though, without us and Outbreak you'd have noone willing to fight.

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Originally by: welsh wizard

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Funny how things work out, you should be glad though, without us and Outbreak you'd have noone willing to fight.

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Originally by: Metal Dude

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Originally by: Plim

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Hi mental dude ^_^

How could we hate a fluffy rabbit.

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That's the best you can do? Calling me names? How original and mature. Then again, I would not expect anything else from CELES.

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Originally by: Blacklight

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...I wonder how many people know that's the original reason for the rift

(N.B. people do need to remember this is all in game stuff only, you got's to keep your hate in perspective )

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Originally by: Metal Dude

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Originally by: Plim

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Hi mental dude ^_^

How could we hate a fluffy rabbit.

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That's the best you can do? Calling me names? How original and mature. Then again, I would not expect anything else from CELES.

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Originally by: Blacklight

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BNC & Geeklab from the old ORS pre NORAD days. Most old school BNC would probably still drop everything to go lay into Geeklab if we thought they were ever acheiving anything significant.

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Originally by: Rift Scorn

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yeah, i guess 0utbreak & Celest vs BoB with their resoective histories is a good one. Although i've fought Boldyn & Marko D a lot back in their FIX days, until recently i haven't had the pleasure of fighting the ABP section of 0utbreak, but i have to say Dave Tehsuli's (sp) battle penguin vids were great, and they are really on the ball scrappers.

BoB vs PA was without a doubt a 9 month slug fest of monster proportions. Smelting point that a lot of these days great PvPers came out of regardless which side you were on at the time.

SA vs CA back in teh day. Was a nub back then and lost Moa's hand over fist; was my first taste of PvP.

SA vs FIX certainly became a smelting point for people. Didn't really get involved in that one, but certainly seemd to get people hot under the collar.

BoB vs [G]/D2. I suppose this wasn't as full on as the GNW but certainly had some very enjoyable fights against these guys.


All the ones i've mentioned i remember pretty much because i was part and parcel of getting royally stuck in , so i've probabley missed a lot of the other bitter 15 round slug fests going on in the universe. Then again i feel that i can only rightfully comment on ones i've been part of, or involed closely with due to geographical reasons.

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BoB vs PA

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Originally by: Renox

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Funny how different things look when viewing them from opposite sides of the fence. Let's just say Celes and RKK didn't see eye to eye on this one and it later evolved into shooting when m0o became involved at a time where we might as well have ended up shooting PA given a few more days. So who turn their back on who? Guess it depends on where you look at it from
But yeah, the BOB vs CELES stuff is good stuff when it comes to grudges :)

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Originally by: Nez Perces

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Edited by: Nez Perces on 23/08/2006 19:38:50


FIX vs SA has to have been one of the longest running feuds in EVE, between alliances. It started at the beginnning of Jan 05 and only really ended in May 06. Thats nearly 1yr and 5 months of what was effectively the same conflict, spread over 3 distinct wars. The Stainers fought FIX under several different guises; Stain Empire, The Coalition and then Stain- Alliance.

The reasons for the animosity are too complex to put down in a single post and I would refer the reader to the FIX website for a comprehensive backstory to the conflict. But the broad simplistic reason for most of it is payback.

I would be very interested to know how long the CA vs SA conflict lasted, all in.

The funny thing is that for me the most fun time I've had in EVE has been 'hating' SA.

So here is to SA, and may everybody in EVE find some party they would like to pod and pod over and over again. The game is so much more interesting that way.

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Originally by: Archbishop

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The greatest is the oldest in my eye....... Amarr vs. Minmatar

PIE Inc since beta has been focused on the defeat of the Minmatar terrorists. They've changed form over the years......

Oracle..... MastutaaMatari...... UshraKhan........

But its still the same war. While some may dismiss RP wars consider we've fought since day one and still cotinue to fight with what CCP gives us Empire folks.

Archie

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Originally by: Crax McGee

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corp wise i like the Celts vs F-E(corp)

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