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Quutar
Caldari
M3rcs Inc
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Posted - 2006.08.23 15:29:00 -
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How many honest rivaly or grudges are there in eve? I am curious about long standing wars or fights that have had the exact cause lost in time, or lost meaning, such that the fighting is there becasue it has always been.
I know that alot of fights and wars are not personal, such that afterwards oponents might become allies agaist a different foe. But what are the grudge fights in eve? the wars that will never truely end, just pause?
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Evelyn Exe
eXceed Inc.
Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2006.08.23 15:43:00 -
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This will degenerate into a flamefast by post 5 i suspect.
Still, most grudges tend to be one sided, whereby the "Losing" side bears a grudge against the winning side.
Can't really think of any mutual rivalries off the top of my head.
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Selpy
0utbreak
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Posted - 2006.08.23 15:53:00 -
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The FIX vs SA war's would fit in this thread. It went on for year's, it would slow down, and flame up, and tbh I can't even remember why thing's went south.
And my own personal corp is kinda extracting a grudge...Outbreak/Celest vs BOB....as alot of the Old QDF pilot's that fought BOB when they tryed to move into Querious region are now in Outbreak, and we're now getting our second bout with BOB. 
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Avernus
Gallente
Imperium Technologies
Firmus Ixion
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Posted - 2006.08.23 15:54:00 -
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FIX-SA was a grudge match. The exact causes are surrounded by propaganda, self deceptions and lies. It stretches back a good couple of years.
Even though SA is no more, not many people manage to move on to new pastures with a clean mental slate, they take their feelings with them. I'm fairly sure we'll see ex-SA crop up again and again to fight FIX.
Nothing in life is quite so sweet as the taste of payback. |
Avernus
Gallente
Imperium Technologies
Firmus Ixion
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Posted - 2006.08.23 15:55:00 -
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Heh, Selpy beat me to it.
Nothing in life is quite so sweet as the taste of payback. |
Masta Killa
BURN EDEN
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Posted - 2006.08.23 16:03:00 -
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The greatest grudge in Eve:
Me vs Warp Scramblers.
So far I've pwnz0red them 99% of the time we meet in battle.
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Orc A
Interstellar eXodus
R0ADKILL
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Posted - 2006.08.23 16:13:00 -
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I think this is the first time i agree witha fixie, no?
 Originally by: End Yourself
hey! we are BoB's lapdogs! not Oberon's or ASCN's!!!
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Darpz
Rampage Eternal
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Posted - 2006.08.23 16:14:00 -
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Edited by: Darpz on 23/08/2006 16:14:52
signed SA vs FIX 4tw
I put in on par with Michigan/Ohio State rivalry
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EssexBoy
Caldari
Sharks With Frickin' Laser Beams
Mercenary Coalition
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Posted - 2006.08.23 16:28:00 -
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The old SA - CA and Xetic - CA has to be in there as well
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Drilla
Shinra
Lotka Volterra
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Posted - 2006.08.23 16:29:00 -
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CA vs. *
Seek not to bar my way, for I shall win through - no matter the cost! |
Felony Assualt
Karnival of Death Squad
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Posted - 2006.08.23 16:34:00 -
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Originally by: EssexBoy
The old SA - CA and Xetic - CA has to be in there as well
^^ this is it right here.
I dont remember fix - SA war lasting to long.
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Tyrrax Thorrk
Amarr
Umbra Congregatio
Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2006.08.23 16:37:00 -
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Edited by: Tyrrax Thorrk on 23/08/2006 16:37:05
bob vs north
bob vs goonswarm
sa vs ca
sa vs fix
ghsc vs gooncorp 1,2,3
ascn vs ex-xetic corps
hmm about all that comes to mind right now
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Avernus
Gallente
Imperium Technologies
Firmus Ixion
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Posted - 2006.08.23 16:38:00 -
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Edited by: Avernus on 23/08/2006 16:38:29
Quote:
I dont remember fix - SA war lasting to long.
Well I think there were about 3 of them... or was it 4, not too mention numberous incidents and times of tension.
Good stuff.
Nothing in life is quite so sweet as the taste of payback. |
Tholarim
Amarr
Destructive Influence
Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.08.23 16:39:00 -
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Edited by: Tholarim on 23/08/2006 16:38:49
ATUK/DICE vs Celes
hi darth! 
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Fetor
Caldari
State War Academy
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Posted - 2006.08.23 16:49:00 -
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Edited by: Fetor on 23/08/2006 16:50:05
Hm... CA v SA?
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eveceo1
Gallente
Revival.
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Posted - 2006.08.23 16:51:00 -
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Aneu v BoB?
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Cmd Woodlouse
Sebiestor tribe
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Posted - 2006.08.23 17:04:00 -
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BoB vs. PA bar none 
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Even WOW is far better than EVE now. Please fix this broken Simcity-Pos-Game! |
Rainarchy
Rage of Angels
Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2006.08.23 17:06:00 -
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CFS/UFS vs FIX
Dunno if it still applies for most, but the feelings where there from some of(all??) UFS/CFS long after it disbanded. CELTS had a few frigraids in Querious when we were in FoE I remember.
I was a complete n00b when it happened, maybe that's why it has stuck with me
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Avernus
Gallente
Imperium Technologies
Firmus Ixion
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Posted - 2006.08.23 17:08:00 -
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Just thought of another one, CFS vs FA.... very long time grudge match, even if it did only have the one explosive conclusion.
Nothing in life is quite so sweet as the taste of payback. |
WildCard
Gallente
SteelVipers
YouWhat
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Posted - 2006.08.23 17:09:00 -
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D2 vs themself
-WildCard CEO SteelVipers-
--- We break for nobody--
--- G4Ever-- |
Avernus
Gallente
Imperium Technologies
Firmus Ixion
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Posted - 2006.08.23 17:10:00 -
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Man... people just keep beating me to the punch. The grudge towards FIX from the CFS/UFS was basically one sided, FIX didn't really have hard feelings about it.
FA might have been the same way.
Still, over time there have been plenty of ex-CFS that have contributed against FIX through other alliances, and helped instigate things.
Nothing in life is quite so sweet as the taste of payback. |
Razor Jaxx
Blind Vengeance
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Posted - 2006.08.23 17:19:00 -
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Originally by: Cmd Woodlouse
BoB vs. PA bar none
Got one for you and Phonubs : EvE vs WoW 
Nice to see you back and in good health btw. <3. 
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Ryas Nia
Minmatar
Stormriders
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Posted - 2006.08.23 17:22:00 -
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hey dont for get the RP wars
U'K vs CVA
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Rainarchy
Rage of Angels
Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2006.08.23 17:24:00 -
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Originally by: Avernus
Man... people just keep beating me to the punch. The grudge towards FIX from the CFS/UFS was basically one sided, FIX didn't really have hard feelings about it.
FA might have been the same way.
Still, over time there have been plenty of ex-CFS that have contributed against FIX through other alliances, and helped instigate things.
No flame intended:
I think the reason was that we felt the behaviour from FA/FIX was lacking the respect we wanted. I remember for example the T-PAR deal which made FA rich and gave us only dockingrights as a hot topic in local/forums. We saw FIX as FA's lapdogs(Tornsoul even moderated FIX's forums in the beginning!) There are others that know the story far better than me, and I only know it from our side. As every conflict there are deep roots, and I can only scratch the surface. From all I know (being a subject to our propaganda) CFS could have been the badguy!
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welsh wizard
Celestial Apocalypse
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Posted - 2006.08.23 17:32:00 -
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Edited by: welsh wizard on 23/08/2006 17:36:30
Edited by: welsh wizard on 23/08/2006 17:34:08
We hate ATUK and they hate us! "So does everyone else!" I hear you cry, maybe but our dislike for each other surpasses any other. ATUK SMELL!
Them reforming into DICE has cooled it a bit though.
edit: Ah I see Thol has already mentioned it.
It's been nothing but civil and courteous in Fountain so far though. I haven't see Metal Dude yet however. :P
ps. Get a corp Woody ya vagrant!
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Clementina
God's of Eve
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Posted - 2006.08.23 17:40:00 -
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RA versus the Coalition. Nothing but Hate.
PA/NBSI versus FE. Didn't last very long, and neither did the alliances listed, but it had potential.
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Rift Scorn
Caldari
Black Nova Corp
Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.08.23 18:01:00 -
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yeah, i guess 0utbreak & Celest vs BoB with their resoective histories is a good one. Although i've fought Boldyn & Marko D a lot back in their FIX days, until recently i haven't had the pleasure of fighting the ABP section of 0utbreak, but i have to say Dave Tehsuli's (sp) battle penguin vids were great, and they are really on the ball scrappers.
BoB vs PA was without a doubt a 9 month slug fest of monster proportions. Smelting point that a lot of these days great PvPers came out of regardless which side you were on at the time.
SA vs CA back in teh day. Was a nub back then and lost Moa's hand over fist; was my first taste of PvP.
SA vs FIX certainly became a smelting point for people. Didn't really get involved in that one, but certainly seemd to get people hot under the collar.
BoB vs [G]/D2. I suppose this wasn't as full on as the GNW but certainly had some very enjoyable fights against these guys.
All the ones i've mentioned i remember pretty much because i was part and parcel of getting royally stuck in  , so i've probabley missed a lot of the other bitter 15 round slug fests going on in the universe. Then again i feel that i can only rightfully comment on ones i've been part of, or involed closely with due to geographical reasons.
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Avernus
Gallente
Imperium Technologies
Firmus Ixion
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Posted - 2006.08.23 18:02:00 -
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Snodgey, I'll tell you in private what the cause was, no need to bring it up here. The force that came in was Collective and MASS. It was the seed for the grudge match that developed.
Nothing in life is quite so sweet as the taste of payback. |
Rainarchy
Rage of Angels
Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2006.08.23 18:04:00 -
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Originally by: Avernus
Quote:
We saw FIX as FA's lapdogs(Tornsoul even moderated FIX's forums in the beginning!)
Just to correct that bit:
Period Basis Legion had their forums orginally setup by Tornsoul, not FIX. Many people labelled FIX as FA lapdogs, after the war (and FA would have liked to have seen this happen); the same way we were labelled CFS lapdogs when we were simply independant corporations and later the QDF, by CA pilots. Yep... the same way we have been named BoB lapdogs after FA fell and FIX made peace with BoB.
The cycle is continious, because FIX generally doesn't care what people label us. Most of these labels are created by people hostile to FIX, and for the most part it is propaganda that they try to use against us, on the one hand attempting to cause division, anger and strife within; and on the other hand propping up their own with false pretenses that make them feel better about their own actions. Other peoples opinions do matter, but we're not overly bothered with changing external perceptions.
I clearly rememberd it as FIX' forums, but if you say so, I stand corrected.
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Avernus
Gallente
Imperium Technologies
Firmus Ixion
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Posted - 2006.08.23 18:09:00 -
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The QDF forums were originally hosted by Black Avatar, who at the time held the 2 of the stations in Querious, the third being held by my own corp.
The FIX forums were setup by S3VYN, who is in my corp. There were no forums inbetween the existance of these two. The only confusion would likely have come from when Black Avatar left Querious to join FA; if I remember right, the FIX forums came into existance right around the time of the CFS war.
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