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nashi BIG R i s e	Posted - 2006.08.23 15:41:00 - [1] Edited by: nashi on 23/08/2006 15:49:16 I've been asked to post the following, Sara Dawn's account is currently disabled, so please contact Sara through the email address in the quote below. nashi BIG Corp _________________________________ Hi, I cannot get ingame or use Sara's account atm due to it being off for now, so I've asked nashi second in command in BIG to post this for me, thanks nashi. Please use my email address to contact me, dawn.sara .at. gmail.com As announced here is the Skills Showroom v2.0 :) After the huge success that was v1.0 (778 characters uploaded), and with all the community feedback i have released v2.0 bigger, better, faster :) (yellow ones are new) Current Features: - List of characters by skillpoints - List of characters by number of lvl5 skills - Top 10 in a skill category - Full ordered list in every category - 2 Different Skill tables/matrices for comparison - List of ships a char can fly - List of chars that can fly a ship - Show missing skills ( color markings: green you have all the pre requirements and can train right away, yellow you're missing some pre requirements for it, red are skills not release to the public yet) - Marking on "freshness" of charsheet - Many other small features and many to come - Top number of skills level 0,1,2,3,4,5 - Top number os skills in ranks - Checkbox to make chars private, only showing totals in each category - In every character, number of lvl1,2,3,4,5 , rank stats, personal statistics - Number of ships can fly/total ships to the "can fly" page? Percentage counts - Racial Statistics, Gender Statistics - Recently Updates Char List with date and time - Alphabetical Sorting of Characters - Full top list of skills - ChangeLog, News, F.A.Q., Help, About - Corporation now shown on Character Sheet EVE Skills Showroom I'm also making this tool available privately for corporation or alliances, drop me a email to dawn.sawn .at. gmail.com . price is 50mil / month , with a one time sign up and setup fee of 150mil. Hope this tool will help the people who like to compete skillpoints wise, without the huge threads full of replies, and big working keeping track of every one's skills for the top. I have uploaded both of my chars and I'm inviting everyone to do the same :) ----- TODO ----- (to be edited based on community feedback) Best Regards Sara Dawn BIG
RaTTuS BIG	Posted - 2006.08.23 15:57:00 - [2] Edited by: RaTTuS on 23/08/2006 16:03:40 The link is in my Sig Aha original thread fixed now... -- BIG Lottery, Deal & Sales \| Skills Showroom
Grey Area Caldari	Posted - 2006.08.23 21:03:00 - [3] Edited by: Grey Area on 23/08/2006 21:10:15 FANTASTIC tool. First one was good, this is a massive improvement. One suggestion...is it possible to count the number of ranks any player has at each level, and arrange them in that order? After all, taking a rank 8 skill to level 5 is more of an accomplishment than taking a rank 1 skill to level 5. This would look like the "Top Skills in Levels" but instead of just counting the number of skills, count the ranks of each skill...so a rank 5 skill would count 5, instead of just one. In addition, would it be possible to display the rank of each skill on the individual character sheet? I know others have asked for this before - but please don't let this little request detract in any way from what is an awesome tool. --- Monty Pythons spoof of the EVE Forums; Palin: "Is this the right room for an argument?" Cleese: "I've told you once."
Rumbaar Solitary Forsaken	Posted - 2006.08.24 00:07:00 - [4] Fantastic tool and great addtions. What does Upload as Private mean/do? Looking for custom banners? click above, Feedback section.
Dr Caymus Gallente Applied Technologies Inc	Posted - 2006.08.24 03:05:00 - [5] Very cool...nice additions...stellar effort Sara I do think that people will still want to be able to get to the full list for total skillpoints (as was shown on version 1), total skills, maybe the skill categories also. It would be cool if you could click on the top 10 category heading and drill down to the complete list so people could see where they stand, who's in front of 'em and who's on their tail, in any of the top 10 categories that are currently shown. For example, I could click on the "Gunnery" heading, then scroll down to the bottom of the list to find my name
digitalwanderer Gallente The Scope	Posted - 2006.08.24 04:21:00 - [6] Originally by: Dr Caymus Very cool...nice additions...stellar effort Sara I do think that people will still want to be able to get to the full list for total skillpoints (as was shown on version 1), total skills, maybe the skill categories also. It would be cool if you could click on the top 10 category heading and drill down to the complete list so people could see where they stand, who's in front of 'em and who's on their tail, in any of the top 10 categories that are currently shown. For example, I could click on the "Gunnery" heading, then scroll down to the bottom of the list to find my name You can already do that,just click on the Icon for each top 10 category...
Grey Area Caldari	Posted - 2006.08.24 07:49:00 - [7] Rumbaar...I LOVE your sig...but in the spirit of pedantry for which I am well known, it should be "Quoth the Raven", not "Quote the Raven". --- Monty Pythons spoof of the EVE Forums; Palin: "Is this the right room for an argument?" Cleese: "I've told you once."
RaTTuS BIG	Posted - 2006.08.24 09:46:00 - [8] Originally by: Rumbaar Fantastic tool and great addtions. What does Upload as Private mean/do? it means that your Skills are not shown to the public .. i.e. just a summery is shown. you can tryu it yourself .. just upload as pirvate and check it out .. to make them public just upload again -- BIG Lottery, Deal & Sales \| Skills Showroom
Rumbaar Solitary Forsaken	Posted - 2006.08.24 11:17:00 - [9] Thank you Grey Area for the correction, and duely adjusted Thx RaTTus. ___________________ Custom banner? Click above or EVEmail
Grey Area Caldari	Posted - 2006.08.24 15:27:00 - [10] NOW it's PERFECT :-) jealous I remember once I rewrote the poem and posted it...during one of CCP's perennial "Nerf the Raven" sessions. I imagine the post is long gone now. --- Monty Pythons spoof of the EVE Forums; Palin: "Is this the right room for an argument?" Cleese: "I've told you once."
Dr Caymus Gallente Applied Technologies Inc	Posted - 2006.08.24 15:49:00 - [11] Originally by: digitalwanderer You can already do that,just click on the Icon for each top 10 category... Thanks digi...I don't know how I missed that...awesome! Originally by: digitalwanderer You're 746th in gunnery out of almost 800 entries so far.....Could be worse Far worse is my percentage gunnery to total
Alistor Drake	Posted - 2006.08.24 18:44:00 - [12] So all i have to do is to upload a xml file from evemon and wait for the server? Will give it a try. How long can it take for the character to show up on the list?
digitalwanderer Gallente The Scope	Posted - 2006.08.24 19:21:00 - [13] Originally by: Alistor Drake So all i have to do is to upload a xml file from evemon and wait for the server? Will give it a try. How long can it take for the character to show up on the list? The page reloads and your stats for every category are shown right away.....
Alistor Drake	Posted - 2006.08.24 20:04:00 - [14] Originally by: digitalwanderer Originally by: Alistor Drake So all i have to do is to upload a xml file from evemon and wait for the server? Will give it a try. How long can it take for the character to show up on the list? The page reloads and your stats for every category are shown right away..... For me it only starts to upload it then the browser says finished but the page don't refresh. Tried in both firefox and explorer.
TornSoul BIG R i s e	Posted - 2006.08.24 20:13:00 - [15] Originally by: Alistor Drake So all i have to do is to upload a xml file from evemon and wait for the server? I could be wrong, so dont shoot me... But I think the evemon xml is "different" from the xml from the one you can dl from the eve-online char page, and thus dont work. BIG Lottery [u
Alistor Drake	Posted - 2006.08.24 20:37:00 - [16] Originally by: TornSoul Originally by: Alistor Drake So all i have to do is to upload a xml file from evemon and wait for the server? I could be wrong, so dont shoot me... But I think the evemon xml is "different" from the xml from the one you can dl from the eve-online char page, and thus dont work. Yeh, that was the problem. Thanks for the help :)
Micia Minmatar N.A.S.A. Cobra Alliance	Posted - 2006.08.24 20:47:00 - [17] Nice upgarde from the first version. One small error: On the "sort names alpabetically" list, hitting M brings you to the N sortings. _______ Originally by: bananagirl Actually i ask that you think ... the picture was a present and now the birthdays gone ... ! and next week they die .. you get my gist here ?
Grey Area Caldari	Posted - 2006.08.25 09:52:00 - [18] Another suggestion...how about a "compare" function...select two or three (or however many sensibly fit on a single screen width) characters and list the skills side by side...? --- Monty Pythons spoof of the EVE Forums; Palin: "Is this the right room for an argument?" Cleese: "I've told you once."
Tripoli XenTech	Posted - 2006.08.26 02:36:00 - [19] Edited by: Tripoli on 26/08/2006 02:37:13 Something fishy with 0mega. Linkage. Note the complete lack of Rank 1, 2, 3, & 4 skills, and the fact that he has more rank 5 skills than are possible. --- 290 of 315 skills trained.
Mudkest	Posted - 2006.08.26 09:51:00 - [20] Edited by: Mudkest on 26/08/2006 09:52:47 Originally by: RaTTuS Originally by: Rumbaar Fantastic tool and great addtions. What does Upload as Private mean/do? it means that your Skills are not shown to the public .. i.e. just a summery is shown. you can tryu it yourself .. just upload as pirvate and check it out .. to make them public just upload again yup, cept that if you upload as private, you are still listed in the matrix along with what skill you have at what level, so not completely private though - When talking about the itsy bitsy spider, try not to start with itchy, you'll get the second part wrong as well
Reiisha Frontier Technologies	Posted - 2006.08.26 18:45:00 - [21] Edited by: Reiisha on 26/08/2006 18:48:20 I was actually expecting to see a ranking of who can fly the most ships aswell :D Would be funny. Would need to include titans and faction ships too though imho... edit: found the titans :P
Barbicane The Gun Club	Posted - 2006.08.28 05:23:00 - [22] Minor bug report: The Obelisk freighter is listed in the Minmatar column on the ships page. Should be Gallente. Would it be possible to change those ship icons to links into the Item Database. I found some ships I didn't know I could fly and it would be nice to be able to quickly get some more information on them Great tool.
Ravenal The Fated	Posted - 2006.08.28 13:16:00 - [23] the ranks are strange... .
Garramon Gallente Sturmgrenadier Inc R i s e	Posted - 2006.08.28 14:40:00 - [24] Obelisk and Fenrir are swapped on at least one view. For some reason the fact that ~50% of the people replying to the thread fail to read and understand the point of the OP is hilarious.
HC MasiEEE Marauders	Posted - 2006.09.01 13:33:00 - [25] You might wanna check CB Cyrix aswell, he started a year after release but with 57mil SP I flown with him in my Xetic days. He is just trying too get some status. He has like half of the SP shown there. What some people will do too get some respect ________________________ HC MasiEEE - Marauders
Lothena	Posted - 2006.09.01 14:03:00 - [26] How long does it take for an uploaded character to appear?
CB Cyrix GeoTech	Posted - 2006.09.01 14:19:00 - [27] Edited by: CB Cyrix on 01/09/2006 14:20:37 Originally by: HC MasiEEE You might wanna check CB Cyrix aswell, he started a year after release but with 57mil SP I flown with him in my Xetic days. He is just trying too get some status. He has like half of the SP shown there. What some people will do too get some respect Yea, Im up to 58mil sp now But yea, delete it please, coz it was just a play post. Would be nice to have that much SP lol. Im stuck on 36mil, but still not bad considering I started ages after you HC MasiEEE...
Callisto Augustus Funny Farm Fugitives	Posted - 2006.09.01 14:53:00 - [28] Edited by: Callisto Augustus on 01/09/2006 14:56:10 Nifty tool. I uploaded myself as well. Question though--with the recent bogus characters, I guess you're going to need some sort of XML "verifier", or there will be characters with bogus data all over the place....too many losers modifying the .XML data... Also, is there a way to DELETE your character once uploaded? In case I get into a war or something? Maybe I overlooked it. omg if i have to login one more time to post one stupid message...just had to relogin in twice to edit it too....GEEZUS!
Reiisha Frontier Technologies	Posted - 2006.09.01 18:05:00 - [29] Originally by: Callisto Augustus Nifty tool. I uploaded myself as well. Question though--with the recent bogus characters, I guess you're going to need some sort of XML "verifier", or there will be characters with bogus data all over the place....too many losers modifying the .XML data... This is impossible to do unless CCP publishes everyone's XML's publically, or takes over Sara's tool and puts in an option to make your stats public or not. Originally by: Callisto Augustus Also, is there a way to DELETE your character once uploaded? In case I get into a war or something? Maybe I overlooked it. Mail Sara, as mentioned in the opening post. She has to manually delete those for the time being.
Callisto Augustus Funny Farm Fugitives	Posted - 2006.09.02 11:38:00 - [30] Originally by: Reiisha Originally by: Callisto Augustus Nifty tool. I uploaded myself as well. Question though--with the recent bogus characters, I guess you're going to need some sort of XML "verifier", or there will be characters with bogus data all over the place....too many losers modifying the .XML data... This is impossible to do unless CCP publishes everyone's XML's publically, or takes over Sara's tool and puts in an option to make your stats public or not. Um, no that's not correct. You're uploading a file from you computer, which you download from the main Eve site. What you get is a simple .xml file which is easily modifiable with Notepad. Originally by: Callisto Augustus Also, is there a way to DELETE your character once uploaded? In case I get into a war or something? Maybe I overlooked it. Mail Sara, as mentioned in the opening post. She has to manually delete those for the time being. Okay, cool. Callisto
Reiisha Frontier Technologies	Posted - 2006.09.02 12:32:00 - [31] Originally by: Callisto Augustus Originally by: Reiisha Originally by: Callisto Augustus Nifty tool. I uploaded myself as well. Question though--with the recent bogus characters, I guess you're going to need some sort of XML "verifier", or there will be characters with bogus data all over the place....too many losers modifying the .XML data... This is impossible to do unless CCP publishes everyone's XML's publically, or takes over Sara's tool and puts in an option to make your stats public or not. Um, no that's not correct. You're uploading a file from you computer, which you download from the main Eve site. What you get is a simple .xml file which is easily modifiable with Notepad. I mean, CCP should make an official page on the EVE site, and there's a checkbox in your "My Character" screen on whether you want your character stats publicized or not. I'm not talking about downloading/uploading anything :)
Zoltaris COLSUP Tau Ceti Federation	Posted - 2006.09.04 13:17:00 - [32] Originally by: nashi - Show missing skills ( color markings: green you have all the pre requirements and can train right away, yellow you're missing some pre requirements for it, red are skills not release to the public yet) Suggestions: - add a pulple color, red would be for skill not yet released but that you have the pre requirements (if available) and purple for skills not yet released and that you don't have these pre requirements - add a "Last Updated" time and date for all chars, so when looking at them, we could know how old that info is - add the attributes for the chars when we look at their personal stats, with an option to hide them for those that don't want to show them ----- > Order Falcon & Pilgrim
NightmareX Caldari MAFIA Pirate Coalition	Posted - 2006.09.06 15:41:00 - [33] Edited by: NightmareX on 06/09/2006 15:42:39 Nice tool, but i have two questions. 1. When you upload the xml file to the site, then you can look on the Ship List, and does that list shows what kind of ships i have had or what ship i have? 2. Well i'm not sure on how this is working, but shouldn't it be cool to have faction ships showed under Ship List. Also i have a Machariel, and if the Ship List shows what kind of ships you have had or have, then i would like to have my Machariel under that list. Or isn't that showed because of security reason?
Janus Ovellian Minmatar Namtz'aar k'in	Posted - 2006.09.06 23:13:00 - [34] The ship list shows what kind of ships you are able to fly. Faction ships not included. Interesting times await...
NightmareX Caldari MAFIA Pirate Coalition	Posted - 2006.09.07 06:55:00 - [35] Originally by: Janus Ovellian The ship list shows what kind of ships you are able to fly. Faction ships not included. Ok, thanks for the answer
Ralitge boyter Minmatar	Posted - 2006.09.07 07:06:00 - [36] Great tool looks nice and wroks quite well. Missing: Rank 5 & 11 skills in the: Top x rank skills. I would love to see something like this added to the options: Linky (the popup on mouse over is what I mean leaving out the sp/hour calculations maybe ) ------------------------------------------- Should you disagree with me, well I guess that is because I disagree with you. If you have a problem with that please feel free not to tell me.
Janus Ovellian Minmatar Namtz'aar k'in	Posted - 2006.09.07 21:51:00 - [37] Originally by: Ralitge boyter Great tool looks nice and wroks quite well. Missing: Rank 5 & 11 skills in the: Top x rank skills. I would love to see something like this added to the options: Linky (the popup on mouse over is what I mean leaving out the sp/hour calculations maybe ) I don't believe there are any rank 11 skills in the game. And, although the number 5 is not included in the list Top Skills in Ranks, the number '6' jumps to a page listing the rank 5 skills. There is a missing " in the link for rank 5 that is messing the url up. Interesting times await...
Mikal Drey Brutor tribe	Posted - 2006.09.08 16:17:00 - [38] hey hey Fenrir is still showing under the gallente column. what about a skill density (skills/points) BTW stil looks good :)) the matrixes take an age to load.
F4ze Developmental Neogenics Amalgamated	Posted - 2006.09.12 01:45:00 - [39] This thread could use some glue.
BIG Builder BIG R i s e	Posted - 2006.09.15 16:04:00 - [40] Up to 1194 Characters now. -- Born to build BIG
Sara Dawn BIG	Posted - 2006.09.19 09:54:00 - [41] Hi everyone :) i wanted to say i'm back in eve, and i'll be compiling a list of new features to be included in a new version of the skills showroom (v3.0) based on all your feedback. I would also like to thank everyone that emailed me while i was away. I hadnt had a chance to say this but the number of people using the site is really impressive :) ___________________________________ BIG member :: Skills Showroom
RaTTuS BIG	Posted - 2006.09.19 12:40:00 - [42] Edited by: RaTTuS on 19/09/2006 12:43:07 WB, missed you ... and I see the members are rising. \o/ -- BIG Lottery, Deal & Sales \| Skills Showroom
Sara Dawn BIG	Posted - 2006.09.30 11:19:00 - [43] Hi, i havent forgotten about all of you :) but i have been busy with alot of projects, havent gotten arround to making the new version, but it's a promise. Due to the bad performance of ccp's char image server, i made a change and i'm now caching everyones pic for faster display. cheers ___________________________________ BIG member :: Skills Showroom
Barbicane The Gun Club	Posted - 2006.09.30 18:22:00 - [44] Originally by: Sara Dawn ...Due to the bad performance of ccp's char image server, i made a change and i'm now caching everyones pic for faster display. There's a server for that? Aha, I always wondered where you got the images from.
Sally Kurde	Posted - 2006.10.03 21:52:00 - [45] i've got bad news for the top 10 in trade, this char has 5.443.741 sp in trade and still gooing
RaTTuS BIG R i s e	Posted - 2006.10.05 12:05:00 - [46] Can we have a list done by update time please. -- BIG Lottery, BIG Deal \| RaTTuS @ Skills Showroom
Slack Scientist	Posted - 2006.10.06 15:54:00 - [47] Can you make it so it looks good - or at least useful a bit in game ... So i can put a link in my Bio
Ray McCormack BIG	Posted - 2006.10.07 03:10:00 - [48] Originally by: Slack Scientist Can you make it so it looks good - or at least useful a bit in game ... So i can put a link in my Bio Oi, get to work! \| The BIG Lottery \| Skills Showroom \| 871651 \|
Grey Area Caldari	Posted - 2006.10.09 22:54:00 - [49] Suggestion: on the "Ships & Pilots" page, would it be possible to show the number of pilots for a given ship by the ship's icon? It would give a very quick indication of the most commonly flown and (perhaps more interestingly) least-commonly flown ships in EVE. --- Monty Pythons spoof of the EVE Forums; Palin: "Is this the right room for an argument?" Cleese: "I've told you once."
Slack Scientist	Posted - 2006.10.10 12:37:00 - [50] :-) ... but seriously ... and a little flashing whatsit to show which skill is being trained currently.. that would be handy
Sara Dawn BIG	Posted - 2006.10.10 21:55:00 - [51] Current list of features to be implemented based on community feedback. - ingame display with settings - ships & pilots pilot count - add updated time to char info - bloolines included in racial statistics - show current skill training keep them comming :) ___________________________________ BIG member :: Skills Showroom
Tripoli XenTech	Posted - 2006.10.11 04:43:00 - [52] Oh, and of course have the list updated to include all current skills. --- 293 of 315 skills trained.
Tripoli XenTech	Posted - 2006.10.11 04:43:00 - [53] I'd still like to see ties ranked as tied, not randomly. (i.e., all the people with maxed learning skills will all be ranked as 3rd.) --- 293 of 315 skills trained.
Sara Dawn BIG	Posted - 2006.10.11 18:40:00 - [54] Current list of features to be implemented based on community feedback. - ingame display with settings - ships & pilots pilot count - add updated time to char info - bloolines included in racial statistics - show current skill training - check that all skills are in database - check sorting issues - allow a setting of a password ingame to be used in authentication in the out of game site - with login allow person to list all the members of his corporation, not shown to everyone to make it harder to find all the members of a corp for security reasons. - add extra security to upload and setting private, ability to set skill upload only if authenticated keep them comming :) ___________________________________ BIG member :: Skills Showroom
RaTTuS BIG R i s e	Posted - 2006.10.11 19:44:00 - [55] Don't forget to say that you can provide Private Corp versions. -- BIG Lottery, BIG Deal \| RaTTuS @ Skills Showroom
Relier	Posted - 2006.10.12 13:13:00 - [56] It's odd that the top 3 players listed under total skill points in LEARNING have more skill points in that category than it is possible to get.
Sara Dawn BIG	Posted - 2006.10.12 15:09:00 - [57] There was a bug a while back that skills continued to acumulate/train skillpoints after reaching lvl5 this bug has now been fixed for a long time, but people who where afected still have the extra skillpoints past lvl5 (doesnt make any change in gameplay). ___________________________________ BIG member :: Skills Showroom
Janus Ovellian Minmatar Namtz'aar k'in	Posted - 2006.10.13 16:23:00 - [58] The skill "Carriers" should probably be removed from the list of skills not released, seeing as we have racial variants. Interesting times await...
Akita T Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force	Posted - 2006.10.13 17:56:00 - [59] And adding pirate/faction pilotable ships to the list of "able to fly" would be great, thanks ;) __ Always question everything. Including yourself.
Zoltaris COLSUP Tau Ceti Federation	Posted - 2006.10.14 01:29:00 - [60] Edited by: Zoltaris on 14/10/2006 01:35:29 Falzone is a fake, looking at his char race and bloodline max per / will and at his learning skills with a maximum of +4 implants, it's not possible to get to 61m sp with the skills he have Also, it seem he was at 40m SP about 6 months ago as seen here and/or at 45m SP about 3 months ago as seen here ----- > Order Falcon & Pilgrim
Dr Caymus Gallente Applied Technologies Inc	Posted - 2006.10.15 18:00:00 - [61] Originally by: Zoltaris Edited by: Zoltaris on 14/10/2006 01:35:29 Falzone is a fake, looking at his char race and bloodline max per / will and at his learning skills with a maximum of +4 implants, it's not possible to get to 61m sp with the skills he have Also, it seem he was at 40m SP about 6 months ago as seen here and/or at 45m SP about 3 months ago as seen here Hmmm...Z appears to be right. Maybe I'm overlooking something, but I don't know of any character that is capable of gaining 15 million skillpoints in Gunnery and Spaceship Command in less than three months
Sara Dawn BIG	Posted - 2006.10.15 23:39:00 - [62] Character has been deleted due to suspections of having fake stats. ___________________________________ BIG member :: Skills Showroom
Ogdru Jahad Amarr	Posted - 2006.10.17 14:11:00 - [63] I have tried to upload my chr in the data base and nadda. I was using the eve mon one and that didnt work. then used the eve online xml version still nothing. what am i doing wrong? .
RaTTuS BIG R i s e	Posted - 2006.10.17 14:27:00 - [64] Edited by: RaTTuS on 17/10/2006 14:28:38 Download the .xml file for your character.. i.e. for you This Link - note that only you will be able to get to that page. upload that file via the upload button .. and all should be fine. -- BIG Lottery, BIG Deal \| RaTTuS @ Skills Showroom
Ogdru Jahad Amarr	Posted - 2006.10.17 14:50:00 - [65] thanks works now :) owe ya one if i can. .

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