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Roxanna Kell Destructive Influence Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.08.24 18:12:00 - [1] so, do you think cloaking should get nurfed a bit, too many npcers use it, making it hard to get a kill on a roam, unles you bump into somethign ro camp a gate. let me know, oh and, no moaning crying flaming, ps.
Vathar Elegance	Posted - 2006.08.24 18:14:00 - [2] Do you mean that they safespot and cloak when they see you in local? Bah, an easy solution, but if they didn't have this, they would just move from Safe to Safe or simply log off Cloaking in belt would be pointless, since if they're in a belt, they're likely to be around 2km of cans/roids or locked by NPC ... _ Originally by: Stamm Minmatar are kind of like going down a flight of stairs on an office chair firing an uzi
Krulla Minmatar Queens of the Stone Age Chimaera Pact	Posted - 2006.08.24 18:14:00 - [3] Waaah, waaah, cloaking means I can't pwn nubs, nerf plx.
Kunming Amarr adeptus gattacus Lotka Volterra	Posted - 2006.08.24 18:19:00 - [4] They should nerf local not cloaks..
Roxanna Kell Destructive Influence Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.08.24 18:33:00 - [5] Originally by: Kunming They should nerf local not cloaks.. 99% of eve agrees to that one, by hey CCP doesn't Give a @%@%^.
Awox Awox Inc.	Posted - 2006.08.24 18:37:00 - [6] Originally by: Roxanna Kell Originally by: Kunming They should nerf local not cloaks.. 99% of eve agrees to that one, by hey CCP doesn't Give a @%@%^. If CCP made it easier to kill people who didn't want to be killed, by removing ways for them to go about there business of avoiding risk and reaping high rewards those people would probably leave. People who can only blob with WCS would start losing ships because they don't know how to fit ships properly. People who log off at gatecamps will start dieing because they didn't bother trianing for blocade runner or learning how to avoid escape (not all dictor/bubble camps have a huginn ready to web!) or they might have to actually die/pay. People who cloak and afk will just... log off. Yeah. Exciting EVE will be when everyone leaves. - nerf 0.5+
Twilight Moon Minmatar eXceed Inc. Ascendant Frontier	Posted - 2006.08.24 18:40:00 - [7] Do people really NPC with a cloak fitted or is this a joke thread? ...on the other hand using a banana might be a viable alternative.
Malthros Zenobia Caldari Independent Navy Reserve Kimotoro Directive	Posted - 2006.08.24 19:21:00 - [8] I want to use a T3 cloak that lets me fire while cloaked so I can NPC and never be hit by those damn griefing pirates!
Zivzee	Posted - 2006.08.24 19:22:00 - [9] never made much sense to way local tells you when people get there but i don't want it to change cuz i will get pwn3d :(
Leandro Salazar Aeon Industries	Posted - 2006.08.24 19:22:00 - [10] Originally by: Roxanna Kell Originally by: Kunming They should nerf local not cloaks.. 99% of eve agrees to that one, by hey CCP doesn't Give a @%@%^. Hate to burst your bubble, but 100% of PvPers != 99% of EVE In fact I would wager that it is more like 9% of EVE who agree to nerf local... But those cry very loud --------- ZOMG my sig was concordokkened! Link removed due to bad language on remote site. -wystler
Roxanna Kell Destructive Influence Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.08.24 19:30:00 - [11] yeah people do use claoks when npcing, i had a raven jump thru the gate i was gonna jump thru, than he saw as and cloacked, it wasnt too hard to decloack the big whale, but yeah, its dam that you can fit a cloack on your npc set up adn get away with it. carebears if it was up to them, they would have a red light warning when any hostiles get clsoe withing 5 jumps.
Kaylon Syi Gallente	Posted - 2006.08.24 19:31:00 - [12] Originally by: Twilight Moon Do people really NPC with a cloak fitted or is this a joke thread? Depends... but I sure have on expensive NPC ships. ----- If I was you... I'd run.
Imran Blind Vengeance	Posted - 2006.08.24 19:34:00 - [13] so many people use fkn cloaks, fking annoying as hell. EwokPoacher: Why hate Gallente? Blackest Sheep: Because we are beautiful
Kaylon Syi Gallente	Posted - 2006.08.24 19:36:00 - [14] Originally by: Roxanna Kell yeah people do use claoks when npcing, i had a raven jump thru the gate i was gonna jump thru, than he saw as and cloacked, it wasnt too hard to decloack the big whale, but yeah, its dam that you can fit a cloack on your npc set up adn get away with it. carebears if it was up to them, they would have a red light warning when any hostiles get clsoe withing 5 jumps. Well... there are plenty of drawbacks to cloaks on any combat ship pvp or pve. Since we are talking about lowsec/0.0, having a cloak means when you 'do' get careless and cought you are going to take a long time to return lock. This could utter f' you over. You can't ask for more targets by nerfing tools that keep risk/reward in check, as well as a healthy market. If you want more targets then ask CCP to start advertising on Sci-Fi in the US to bring more targets into the game. ----- If I was you... I'd run.
xenodia Gallente Trinity Nova	Posted - 2006.08.24 19:56:00 - [15] Originally by: Twilight Moon Do people really NPC with a cloak fitted or is this a joke thread? Yes, they do, especially deep in 0.0. The scan resolution penalty is relatively meaningless against NPCs, and the ability to safespot and cloak when a hostile gang enters local is invaluable if all they are interested in is NPCing and not engaging in pvp. Please visit our website here
qwertyytrewq	Posted - 2006.08.24 19:58:00 - [16] Oh no, you can't kill people who are trying to enjoy the game and aren't bothering you!
Zetaa Amarr 7th Heaven Private Indst.	Posted - 2006.08.24 20:00:00 - [17] Originally by: Roxanna Kell so, do you think cloaking should get nurfed a bit, too many npcers use it, making it hard to get a kill on a roam, unles you bump into somethign ro camp a gate. let me know, oh and, no moaning crying flaming, ps. I know, why don't we just nerf everything, then we can all fly about in shuttles. YANT = Yet Another Nerf Thread ----- All men can see these tactics whereby I conquer, but what none can see is the strategy out of which victory is evolved.
Ether Bunny	Posted - 2006.08.24 20:06:00 - [18] Well oh course this was going to get flamed First off tis is an alt, its a cloaking device for the Forum. I dont think they need to nerf cloaks, people just want an easy gank, so why dont we remove Ew? Then why dont remove Caldari because they use Ew and Missles dont miss. Then we should Remove Ammar because every one tanks EM and Thermal. and Last we remove Minmatar because 1400 mm Artys because they hurt to much.
Zetaa Amarr 7th Heaven Private Indst.	Posted - 2006.08.24 20:11:00 - [19] Originally by: Ether Bunny Well oh course this was going to get flamed First off tis is an alt, its a cloaking device for the Forum. I dont think they need to nerf cloaks, people just want an easy gank, so why dont we remove Ew? Then why dont remove Caldari because they use Ew and Missles dont miss. Then we should Remove Ammar because every one tanks EM and Thermal. and Last we remove Minmatar because 1400 mm Artys because they hurt to much. Hehe, the point I was trying to make, somewhat sarcastically I add, is that no matter how things come out, there will always be people who complain. Waaah, they use 6 stabs. So blob the fecker. Waaah they cloak while they NPC. So put cans in the usual warp paths and wait. Or, get friends and scout. Sometimes you can solo someone, sometimes you can't, get used to it. ----- All men can see these tactics whereby I conquer, but what none can see is the strategy out of which victory is evolved.
Brem Watson Caldari Nexus-6	Posted - 2006.08.24 20:12:00 - [20] Why nerf cloak? You can't kill everyone when you want to. Even lions don't make kills everytime they hunt.
LUKEC Destructive Influence Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.08.24 20:14:00 - [21] Originally by: qwertyytrewq Oh no, you can't kill people who are trying to enjoy the game and aren't bothering you! Actually alt presence is annoying. And yay, anything in space that can be blown is attraction. Too bad EVE come to a state when you need to be able to gank 5 people at the same time to get them to fight you. But yeah you can cloak on ss, so can pilgrim. --------------------- Looking for frentix? Mail me.
Ether Bunny	Posted - 2006.08.24 20:31:00 - [22] Eh, Cloaks are like Intys, every one has one, and its if you wanna live use them
Krulla Minmatar Queens of the Stone Age Chimaera Pact	Posted - 2006.08.24 21:01:00 - [23] Originally by: Roxanna Kell Originally by: Kunming They should nerf local not cloaks.. 99% of eve agrees to that one, by hey CCP doesn't Give a @%@%^. 99%? I'm a PvPer. I pirate from time to time. I don't want local nerfed. Nerfing Local would make it every bit as hard for you to find targets as it would make it hard for the targets to see you coming - In fact, it would probably make it harder, as you always check local when entering new systems while hunting, while your target might be into his fourth hour of NPCing and might be dozing off.
Foulis Minmatar Chosen Path	Posted - 2006.08.24 21:09:00 - [24] Originally by: xenodia Originally by: Twilight Moon Do people really NPC with a cloak fitted or is this a joke thread? Yes, they do, especially deep in 0.0. The scan resolution penalty is relatively meaningless against NPCs, and the ability to safespot and cloak when a hostile gang enters local is invaluable if all they are interested in is NPCing and not engaging in pvp. No, they really don't. Or rather, it wouldn't make a difference, if you have 3 safespots in the system (or even 2) you can't be caught by a prober. ---- Cake > Pie - Imaran Cathath > Imaran - Cathath Originally by: CCP Hammer Boobies
Jenny Spitfire Caldari LoneStar Industries Veritas Immortalis	Posted - 2006.08.24 21:13:00 - [25] I have given up on cloaks. Cloaks do not need nerfing. Prototype cloaks should sell at 200M, improved cloaks at 400M and covert ops cloak at 600M. Cloaks are overpowered and too cheap at the moment. --------- In the blindness, a streak fiery thread violently cuts the horizon. Bleeding golden mists, engulfing the blindness from within. Burning the darkness. The touch of dawn.
inSpirAcy Caldari The Solopwnmobiles	Posted - 2006.08.24 21:16:00 - [26] Originally by: Roxanna Kell Originally by: Kunming They should nerf local not cloaks.. 99% of eve agrees to that one, by hey CCP doesn't Give a @%@%^. Yes, dear. BTW, don't nerf cloaks. If some silly NPC'r wants to sit in a belt cloaked I'll happily do a bit of scanner work to decloak and pop him for the module. (SS's are another matter, but the cloak adds nothing)
Mazare Mircea	Posted - 2006.08.24 21:43:00 - [27] Edited by: Mazare Mircea on 24/08/2006 21:45:43 Edited by: Mazare Mircea on 24/08/2006 21:44:36 Originally by: Roxanna Kell yeah people do use claoks when npcing, i had a raven jump thru the gate i was gonna jump thru, than he saw as and cloacked, it wasnt too hard to decloack the big whale, but yeah, its dam that you can fit a cloack on your npc set up adn get away with it. carebears if it was up to them, they would have a red light warning when any hostiles get clsoe withing 5 jumps. Get away how ? 1 - you still got him 2 - most fit normal cloaks that give a huuuuge penalty to targeting 3 - from my somewhat limited experience - 1 month in Pure Blind, i have never seen a DICE alone, and sometimes even 25 ppl blobs. What more of an advantage do you want ? PS: And if it was up to you, you would have magic "I-Win because I'm uber" button. In advance i would like to mention, that i have never fitted cloaks - i simply don't have the skills, but if i were to get back to ratting in 0.0 i would definitely consider using one.
wierchas noobhunter Caldari The Collective Against ALL Authorities	Posted - 2006.08.24 22:12:00 - [28] well first yeah ihave agree that cloaks are anoing, but theyare just way for npcers to survive well and for dumb ppl with cloaked hac to ... well to suck but i so disagree for removing local tbh this will change game to much and makes it just for rich bastards with **** load of industrail alts game
Dred 'Morte Minmatar Sammael's Legion Arkhangelos Command	Posted - 2006.08.24 22:20:00 - [29] Edited by: Dred ''Morte on 24/08/2006 22:25:45 Originally by: Roxanna Kell Originally by: Kunming They should nerf local not cloaks.. 99% of eve agrees to that one, by hey CCP doesn't Give a @%@%^. No, about 49-51% of EVE PvPers agree to that. I won't even mention non PvPers. Many NPCers do use cloaks. Specially Ravens. And what's the problem what? You can't kill a harmless NPCer who doesn' want to harm anyone? Are you afraid he kills all the spawns of your Alliances region? No, you just want to gank him because he is not in your alliance, ohhhh... buhuuuu... Signature made by Mr Floppykickners
Roxanna Kell Destructive Influence Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.08.24 23:11:00 - [30] some people just cant help to smack, stick to the subject please. and psot with your mains.

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