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Posted - 2003.10.13 18:53:00 - [31]

lol, you guys ever heard about moving? You know, the map cant keep up since it only updates every 5 mins.

Keep posting those accusations though, its amusing.
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Posted - 2003.10.13 18:53:00 - [32]

lol, you guys ever heard about moving? You know, the map cant keep up since it only updates every 5 mins.

Keep posting those accusations though, its amusing.

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Posted - 2003.10.13 19:05:00 - [33]

Edited by: Nirvy on 13/10/2003 19:09:39
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lol, you guys ever heard about moving? You know, the map cant keep up since it only updates every 5 mins.

Keep posting those accusations though, its amusing.


Sorry dont wanna get in a ****ing contest as most CA/SA/FA Threads do. I have seen 4 of your members log on the second a lone Evol ship was attacked (A scorp running shield hardeners)

Obviously you will deny it Neutral i dont expect otherwise, i thought it was common knowledge however?, ill go dig up the chat log in minute for you to see.

Like i said, most of you are half decent ppl, and good at PvP. Hell i need someone to fight, i sure as hell wouldnt want to have to mine ever again Razz

This is a game, i beleive CA will win. I beleive CA is in the right. I Enjoy blowing up CA's Enemies. That said, it is only a game to me, I'll leave the forum politics to people more suited to them such as Sarkos, Jade already proved that out of game events can influnce what goes on in game. We see far too often what these threads degenerate into when everyone and their dog decides to have a b itch and accusation session, to me that doesnt add to the games immersion, just makes it annoying to try and divulge facts from Neutral
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Nirvy
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Posted - 2003.10.13 19:05:00 - [34]

Edited by: Nirvy on 13/10/2003 19:09:39
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lol, you guys ever heard about moving? You know, the map cant keep up since it only updates every 5 mins.

Keep posting those accusations though, its amusing.


Sorry dont wanna get in a ****ing contest as most CA/SA/FA Threads do. I have seen 4 of your members log on the second a lone Evol ship was attacked (A scorp running shield hardeners)

Obviously you will deny it Neutral i dont expect otherwise, i thought it was common knowledge however?, ill go dig up the chat log in minute for you to see.

Like i said, most of you are half decent ppl, and good at PvP. Hell i need someone to fight, i sure as hell wouldnt want to have to mine ever again Razz

This is a game, i beleive CA will win. I beleive CA is in the right. I Enjoy blowing up CA's Enemies. That said, it is only a game to me, I'll leave the forum politics to people more suited to them such as Sarkos, Jade already proved that out of game events can influnce what goes on in game. We see far too often what these threads degenerate into when everyone and their dog decides to have a b itch and accusation session, to me that doesnt add to the games immersion, just makes it annoying to try and divulge facts from Neutral
Jade Constantine
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Posted - 2003.10.13 19:48:00 - [35]

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Jade already proved that out of game events can influnce what goes on in game


Of course I would refute the suggestion that Eve alliance politics and public relations statements are out of game events. After all, what gets said on these forums and on the web-sites serving the eve community will influence the desires and expectations of players within the game.

Losing a war? You need more recruits, more allies, more equipment and more organisation.

Sure you can bombard the in-game recruitment channel till your fingers drop off; but why not short-circuit the issue and mass market your conflict to the benefit of allies and the viewing public alike?

The game includes the forums.

Deny it as you will, but to be honest, that leaves you more or less in the same boat as the poor saps who dream of eco-simulation without PvP. Eve is what it is.

Love and peace



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Posted - 2003.10.13 19:48:00 - [36]

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Jade already proved that out of game events can influnce what goes on in game


Of course I would refute the suggestion that Eve alliance politics and public relations statements are out of game events. After all, what gets said on these forums and on the web-sites serving the eve community will influence the desires and expectations of players within the game.

Losing a war? You need more recruits, more allies, more equipment and more organisation.

Sure you can bombard the in-game recruitment channel till your fingers drop off; but why not short-circuit the issue and mass market your conflict to the benefit of allies and the viewing public alike?

The game includes the forums.

Deny it as you will, but to be honest, that leaves you more or less in the same boat as the poor saps who dream of eco-simulation without PvP. Eve is what it is.

Love and peace



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Lottsa Pox
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Posted - 2003.10.13 19:50:00 - [37]

LOL, another i lost my ship to CTD the opponent must be cheating topic.

I have personally been in combat with evolution. And here are my findings. Never once have I seen Evol use an exploit. All tactics I have SEEN used against me or M3G4 at the time were great use of their strengths to our weakness. Dont hate them because you cant win. Just own up to losing your ship.

Enjoy the game, I know I am Very Happy

Lottsa Pox
Pox to ya pod
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Posted - 2003.10.13 19:50:00 - [38]

LOL, another i lost my ship to CTD the opponent must be cheating topic.

I have personally been in combat with evolution. And here are my findings. Never once have I seen Evol use an exploit. All tactics I have SEEN used against me or M3G4 at the time were great use of their strengths to our weakness. Dont hate them because you cant win. Just own up to losing your ship.

Enjoy the game, I know I am Very Happy

Lottsa Pox
Pox to ya pod
BioMass Cartel
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Probe
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Posted - 2003.10.13 20:01:00 - [39]

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I have to concur with regard to the instability last night and today. The game has been incredibly unreliable; I've had around half a dozen node-drop CTD style things in the middle of conversations ... funnily enough I didn't suspect my chat partners of doing it on purpose ...

love and peace



There's yer proof Reclaimer!
Jade confirms yer claims about EVOL causing CTDs on CA forces... she crashed alot on the other side of the EVE universe, so it's clearly EVOL cheating! Twisted Evil

PS: Sorry to use yer name Jade, but nonsense evidence is the only way to counter nonsense exclamations :)
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Posted - 2003.10.13 20:01:00 - [40]

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I have to concur with regard to the instability last night and today. The game has been incredibly unreliable; I've had around half a dozen node-drop CTD style things in the middle of conversations ... funnily enough I didn't suspect my chat partners of doing it on purpose ...

love and peace



There's yer proof Reclaimer!
Jade confirms yer claims about EVOL causing CTDs on CA forces... she crashed alot on the other side of the EVE universe, so it's clearly EVOL cheating! Twisted Evil

PS: Sorry to use yer name Jade, but nonsense evidence is the only way to counter nonsense exclamations :)
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Posted - 2003.10.13 20:07:00 - [41]

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NeutralAs much as i dont like Evol's Strategy of logging several people in a system off, and then waiting for anyone to engage their sole ship logged in, and then getting the other 6 ships to relog and kill the attacker (Had to get that off my chest )

I doubt they would purposely cause a CTD, as annoying and childish as they can be Last night was a ***** for most of us, i ended up just logging off i was CTD'ing that much :\


If they are doing the logging/re-loggin trick, I think that they are not above causing a CTD.

I think that the logging/re-logging tactic borders on an Exploit and should be delt with accordingly.


Wow, you think logging off and then relogging back in to help a buddy out is a borderline exploit. God forbid we can't login or logout whenever we want to.

Sounds like a nice, risky tactic that requires alot of coordination, communincation and teamwork to me.
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Posted - 2003.10.13 20:07:00 - [42]

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NeutralAs much as i dont like Evol's Strategy of logging several people in a system off, and then waiting for anyone to engage their sole ship logged in, and then getting the other 6 ships to relog and kill the attacker (Had to get that off my chest )

I doubt they would purposely cause a CTD, as annoying and childish as they can be Last night was a ***** for most of us, i ended up just logging off i was CTD'ing that much :\


If they are doing the logging/re-loggin trick, I think that they are not above causing a CTD.

I think that the logging/re-logging tactic borders on an Exploit and should be delt with accordingly.


Wow, you think logging off and then relogging back in to help a buddy out is a borderline exploit. God forbid we can't login or logout whenever we want to.

Sounds like a nice, risky tactic that requires alot of coordination, communincation and teamwork to me.
Teelmaster
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Posted - 2003.10.13 20:10:00 - [43]

Honestly, i have no idea who uber miner and what actually are. Obviously, they are from CA. However, they dont represent the views of the CA alliance and i wish they would stop posting b/c they are basically forum ass monkeys with no balls to post under their real names. That being said, while i may not like evol i respect them as an corporation and worthy enemy. While the grid exploits in hlw tainted my view somewhat by those who used them, most are still worthy warriors who i respect and enjoy fighting.
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Posted - 2003.10.13 20:10:00 - [44]

Honestly, i have no idea who uber miner and what actually are. Obviously, they are from CA. However, they dont represent the views of the CA alliance and i wish they would stop posting b/c they are basically forum ass monkeys with no balls to post under their real names. That being said, while i may not like evol i respect them as an corporation and worthy enemy. While the grid exploits in hlw tainted my view somewhat by those who used them, most are still worthy warriors who i respect and enjoy fighting.
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Posted - 2003.10.13 20:13:00 - [45]

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I have to concur with regard to the instability last night and today. The game has been incredibly unreliable; I've had around half a dozen node-drop CTD style things in the middle of conversations ... funnily enough I didn't suspect my chat partners of doing it on purpose ...

love and peace



There's yer proof Reclaimer!
Jade confirms yer claims about EVOL causing CTDs on CA forces... she crashed alot on the other side of the EVE universe, so it's clearly EVOL cheating! Twisted Evil

PS: Sorry to use yer name Jade, but nonsense evidence is the only way to counter nonsense exclamations :)


Excuse me? How did my name get dragged into this? Shocked I have never lost a ship to CTD or to Evolution for that matter. Why am I being brought into this matter? Are you obsessed with me or something? Jees, I am getting scared. Next thing I know one of you little Evol kiddy's will be outside my house in a trench coat.Cool Its just a game ppl, there is no need to get obsessed with game characters. I seriously hope that none of you end up in a padded room because of this game.
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Posted - 2003.10.13 20:13:00 - [46]

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I have to concur with regard to the instability last night and today. The game has been incredibly unreliable; I've had around half a dozen node-drop CTD style things in the middle of conversations ... funnily enough I didn't suspect my chat partners of doing it on purpose ...

love and peace



There's yer proof Reclaimer!
Jade confirms yer claims about EVOL causing CTDs on CA forces... she crashed alot on the other side of the EVE universe, so it's clearly EVOL cheating! Twisted Evil

PS: Sorry to use yer name Jade, but nonsense evidence is the only way to counter nonsense exclamations :)


Excuse me? How did my name get dragged into this? Shocked I have never lost a ship to CTD or to Evolution for that matter. Why am I being brought into this matter? Are you obsessed with me or something? Jees, I am getting scared. Next thing I know one of you little Evol kiddy's will be outside my house in a trench coat.Cool Its just a game ppl, there is no need to get obsessed with game characters. I seriously hope that none of you end up in a padded room because of this game.
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Posted - 2003.10.13 20:36:00 - [47]

Actually it's well known not to even bother fighting evol amongst curse alliance members cuz of ther blatent exploitation of bugs and certiant modules.

So far systems not even bother fightin in are HLW,Vol and one or two others cuz evol members seem to know the location of alot of the grids which means it is possible that a few players are using 3rd party software to locate grids for exploitation.
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Posted - 2003.10.13 20:36:00 - [48]

Actually it's well known not to even bother fighting evol amongst curse alliance members cuz of ther blatent exploitation of bugs and certiant modules.

So far systems not even bother fightin in are HLW,Vol and one or two others cuz evol members seem to know the location of alot of the grids which means it is possible that a few players are using 3rd party software to locate grids for exploitation.
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Posted - 2003.10.13 20:43:00 - [49]

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Jade already proved that out of game events can influnce what goes on in game


Of course I would refute the suggestion that Eve alliance politics and public relations statements are out of game events. After all, what gets said on these forums and on the web-sites serving the eve community will influence the desires and expectations of players within the game.

Losing a war? You need more recruits, more allies, more equipment and more organisation.

Sure you can bombard the in-game recruitment channel till your fingers drop off; but why not short-circuit the issue and mass market your conflict to the benefit of allies and the viewing public alike?

The game includes the forums.

Deny it as you will, but to be honest, that leaves you more or less in the same boat as the poor saps who dream of eco-simulation without PvP. Eve is what it is.

Love and peace



You miss-understood, or maybe i phrased it poorly maybe. I was trying to indicate that the Forum politics doesnt particulary interest me, i dont deny they are a very important role, but im a mere fighter peon, i do what i told an dont mind Wink Some of us like being pawns Very Happy Im not a very fluent writer, and so generally withdraw from political talks, as im sure many of your allies did a week ago
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Posted - 2003.10.13 20:43:00 - [50]

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Jade already proved that out of game events can influnce what goes on in game


Of course I would refute the suggestion that Eve alliance politics and public relations statements are out of game events. After all, what gets said on these forums and on the web-sites serving the eve community will influence the desires and expectations of players within the game.

Losing a war? You need more recruits, more allies, more equipment and more organisation.

Sure you can bombard the in-game recruitment channel till your fingers drop off; but why not short-circuit the issue and mass market your conflict to the benefit of allies and the viewing public alike?

The game includes the forums.

Deny it as you will, but to be honest, that leaves you more or less in the same boat as the poor saps who dream of eco-simulation without PvP. Eve is what it is.

Love and peace



You miss-understood, or maybe i phrased it poorly maybe. I was trying to indicate that the Forum politics doesnt particulary interest me, i dont deny they are a very important role, but im a mere fighter peon, i do what i told an dont mind Wink Some of us like being pawns Very Happy Im not a very fluent writer, and so generally withdraw from political talks, as im sure many of your allies did a week ago
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Posted - 2003.10.13 20:52:00 - [51]

no offense taken m'dear Nirvy, and thanks for the clarification. I am a little sensitive on the out of game thing because I think a few folks didn't understand where my competitive instincts ended during the venal war. Alls fair in love and war in the game universe, but we gotta have some respect for each other outside the simulated conflict ... after all, we are spending a fair bit of time in the same consensual reality ... how many geezers on the street know the performance differential in medium range hybrid ammo types eh? ;)




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Posted - 2003.10.13 20:52:00 - [52]

no offense taken m'dear Nirvy, and thanks for the clarification. I am a little sensitive on the out of game thing because I think a few folks didn't understand where my competitive instincts ended during the venal war. Alls fair in love and war in the game universe, but we gotta have some respect for each other outside the simulated conflict ... after all, we are spending a fair bit of time in the same consensual reality ... how many geezers on the street know the performance differential in medium range hybrid ammo types eh? ;)




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Nirvy
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Posted - 2003.10.13 21:18:00 - [53]

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no offense taken m'dear Nirvy, and thanks for the clarification. I am a little sensitive on the out of game thing because I think a few folks didn't understand where my competitive instincts ended during the venal war. Alls fair in love and war in the game universe, but we gotta have some respect for each other outside the simulated conflict ... after all, we are spending a fair bit of time in the same consensual reality ... how many geezers on the street know the performance differential in medium range hybrid ammo types eh? ;)




Naw you shouldn't be sensitive over it, you were good at what you did/do, even if reading all your posts made poor Nirvies head ache at 4 in the morning Neutral I respect most people, including my alliances enemies, that said im easily irritated and pretty huffy Razz

PS my Mate just spat beer over me as i tried to explain the medium hybrid ammo types.Neutral
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Posted - 2003.10.13 21:18:00 - [54]

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no offense taken m'dear Nirvy, and thanks for the clarification. I am a little sensitive on the out of game thing because I think a few folks didn't understand where my competitive instincts ended during the venal war. Alls fair in love and war in the game universe, but we gotta have some respect for each other outside the simulated conflict ... after all, we are spending a fair bit of time in the same consensual reality ... how many geezers on the street know the performance differential in medium range hybrid ammo types eh? ;)




Naw you shouldn't be sensitive over it, you were good at what you did/do, even if reading all your posts made poor Nirvies head ache at 4 in the morning Neutral I respect most people, including my alliances enemies, that said im easily irritated and pretty huffy Razz

PS my Mate just spat beer over me as i tried to explain the medium hybrid ammo types.Neutral
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Posted - 2003.10.13 21:27:00 - [55]

Twisted EvilHeh us exploit, man that's the best joke I heard for a long time, nice guys I laughed my ass off at that one.

GM confirmed we never grid exploited at the jumpin point, so go figure.

There was however a grid at the vol gate, and your CA ships were at the gate, we attacked, you lost, only then did you whine at losing ships at a gate with a grid, which imo you must have known about but thought you'd win the battle.

Grid at gate, CA camping gate. Go figure.
This can be checked with the dev "Tom B".
So who is the grid exploiters really..

Nuff said time to stroke hmm yes Sarkos's corpse I think. Twisted Evil

Flatliner.
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Posted - 2003.10.13 21:27:00 - [56]

Twisted EvilHeh us exploit, man that's the best joke I heard for a long time, nice guys I laughed my ass off at that one.

GM confirmed we never grid exploited at the jumpin point, so go figure.

There was however a grid at the vol gate, and your CA ships were at the gate, we attacked, you lost, only then did you whine at losing ships at a gate with a grid, which imo you must have known about but thought you'd win the battle.

Grid at gate, CA camping gate. Go figure.
This can be checked with the dev "Tom B".
So who is the grid exploiters really..

Nuff said time to stroke hmm yes Sarkos's corpse I think. Twisted Evil

Flatliner.
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Posted - 2003.10.13 21:33:00 - [57]

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NeutralAs much as i dont like Evol's Strategy of logging several people in a system off, and then waiting for anyone to engage their sole ship logged in, and then getting the other 6 ships to relog and kill the attacker (Had to get that off my chest )

I doubt they would purposely cause a CTD, as annoying and childish as they can be Last night was a ***** for most of us, i ended up just logging off i was CTD'ing that much :\


Logging off and on is a good tactic, if you ask me.


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Posted - 2003.10.13 21:33:00 - [58]

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NeutralAs much as i dont like Evol's Strategy of logging several people in a system off, and then waiting for anyone to engage their sole ship logged in, and then getting the other 6 ships to relog and kill the attacker (Had to get that off my chest )

I doubt they would purposely cause a CTD, as annoying and childish as they can be Last night was a ***** for most of us, i ended up just logging off i was CTD'ing that much :\


Logging off and on is a good tactic, if you ask me.
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Posted - 2003.10.13 21:58:00 - [59]

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Actually it's well known not to even bother fighting evol amongst curse alliance members cuz of ther blatent exploitation of bugs and certiant modules.

So far systems not even bother fightin in are HLW,Vol and one or two others cuz evol members seem to know the location of alot of the grids which means it is possible that a few players are using 3rd party software to locate grids for exploitation.


roofle. well known? no, it's not. but i do love it when morons like you hop on here and use phrases like "it's well known", "it's obvious" and "clearly" when whatever you are stating is anything but factual, obvious, or clear.

when we got to curse and started scouting around, we laughed because of all the grids. we were not surprised that the pirate dolts would choose an area so littered with messed up grids.

evolution do not use grid exploits.

we will not use any exploits.

don't cry because you can't fight.

don't blame your cowardice on something that doesn't exist(us using exploits).

just man up and admit you suffer from small penile disease.
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Posted - 2003.10.13 21:58:00 - [60]

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Actually it's well known not to even bother fighting evol amongst curse alliance members cuz of ther blatent exploitation of bugs and certiant modules.

So far systems not even bother fightin in are HLW,Vol and one or two others cuz evol members seem to know the location of alot of the grids which means it is possible that a few players are using 3rd party software to locate grids for exploitation.


roofle. well known? no, it's not. but i do love it when morons like you hop on here and use phrases like "it's well known", "it's obvious" and "clearly" when whatever you are stating is anything but factual, obvious, or clear.

when we got to curse and started scouting around, we laughed because of all the grids. we were not surprised that the pirate dolts would choose an area so littered with messed up grids.

evolution do not use grid exploits.

we will not use any exploits.

don't cry because you can't fight.

don't blame your cowardice on something that doesn't exist(us using exploits).

just man up and admit you suffer from small penile disease.
   
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