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 what    |
Posted - 2003.10.13 17:31:00 -
[1] Edited by: what on 13/10/2003 17:37:03 Khaydin and kendar, of evolution, causing CTD. Two incidents of 2 ships CTD by evol is bad game play. We really seeing how evol plays this game. Also using the grid exploit. You guys cant beat curse so you resort to cheap underhand tactics. Very pro. |
 what |
Posted - 2003.10.13 17:31:00 -
[2] Edited by: what on 13/10/2003 17:37:03 Khaydin and kendar, of evolution, causing CTD. Two incidents of 2 ships CTD by evol is bad game play. We really seeing how evol plays this game. Also using the grid exploit. You guys cant beat curse so you resort to cheap underhand tactics. Very pro. |
 Shrike |
Posted - 2003.10.13 17:34:00 -
[3] Edited by: Shrike on 13/10/2003 17:41:12 rofl. Ok, petition it. lol. "EVOL cuases CTD". lol. Do you mind telling us how? *edit; BTW, who is Kendar?? You recruited us a new member? |
 Shrike Evolution Band of Brothers |
Posted - 2003.10.13 17:34:00 -
[4] Edited by: Shrike on 13/10/2003 17:41:12 rofl. Ok, petition it. lol. "EVOL cuases CTD". lol. Do you mind telling us how? *edit; BTW, who is Kendar?? You recruited us a new member? [center] |
 StoreSlem |
Posted - 2003.10.13 17:35:00 -
[5] its the nodes damn muppet... they've been going up and down since dt. |
 Uber Miner |
Posted - 2003.10.13 17:35:00 -
[6] I second the part about the grid exploid. We have documents a member doing it and have reported him. However, no ships were lost, but he did in fact target us using a scanner behind a grid. |
 StoreSlem Minmatar 4S Corporation Morsus Mihi |
Posted - 2003.10.13 17:35:00 -
[7] its the nodes damn muppet... they've been going up and down since dt. "If you were experiencing a lag, it was not server related." |
 Uber Miner |
Posted - 2003.10.13 17:35:00 -
[8] I second the part about the grid exploid. We have documents a member doing it and have reported him. However, no ships were lost, but he did in fact target us using a scanner behind a grid. |
Tsubaru |
Posted - 2003.10.13 17:36:00 -
[9] umm, if you are smart you'd see the server is down right now |
 Uber Miner |
Posted - 2003.10.13 17:36:00 -
[10] There are ways to cause CTD's. You know when a node goes off-line because it says so. I for one have not seen an Evol guy do the CTD thing. |
 Tsubaru Caldari Caldari Provisions |
Posted - 2003.10.13 17:36:00 -
[11] umm, if you are smart you'd see the server is down right now |
Uber Miner |
Posted - 2003.10.13 17:36:00 -
[12] There are ways to cause CTD's. You know when a node goes off-line because it says so. I for one have not seen an Evol guy do the CTD thing. |
 Dukath |
Posted - 2003.10.13 18:08:00 -
[13] I'm sure that IF this accusation had any merit at all you'd be using your main character and not a newly created alt. I KNOW that we don't use exploits, we always try to prevent grids interfering with our operations and we will NEVER cause someone to CTD. |
 Dukath Evolution Band of Brothers |
Posted - 2003.10.13 18:08:00 -
[14] I'm sure that IF this accusation had any merit at all you'd be using your main character and not a newly created alt. I KNOW that we don't use exploits, we always try to prevent grids interfering with our operations and we will NEVER cause someone to CTD. |
sutty |
Posted - 2003.10.13 18:11:00 -
[15] HAHAHAHHA UBER WELL GET YOUR FACTS RIGHT BUDDY BECAUSE YOU CAN NO LONGER TARGET FROM THE SCANNER OVER A GRID. SO STFU |
 sutty Amarr Evolution |
Posted - 2003.10.13 18:11:00 -
[16] HAHAHAHHA UBER WELL GET YOUR FACTS RIGHT BUDDY BECAUSE YOU CAN NO LONGER TARGET FROM THE SCANNER OVER A GRID. SO STFU |
 Uber Miner |
Posted - 2003.10.13 18:14:00 -
[17] really sutty? I bet you 10 million isk I can. Wanna try it? |
Uber Miner |
Posted - 2003.10.13 18:14:00 -
[18] really sutty? I bet you 10 million isk I can. Wanna try it? |
sutty |
Posted - 2003.10.13 18:15:00 -
[19] ok. |
sutty Amarr Evolution |
Posted - 2003.10.13 18:15:00 -
[20] ok. |
 sutty |
Posted - 2003.10.13 18:18:00 -
[21] and besides the point, its not our fault your lack brains causes you ship losses, its funny how at every turn you try to put dirt on us :D its funny, because as long as your dieing and we know in our hearts we play fare thats all that matters to me and the other evol. we couldn't care less what you think as long as your dieing :) |
sutty Amarr Evolution |
Posted - 2003.10.13 18:18:00 -
[22] and besides the point, its not our fault your lack brains causes you ship losses, its funny how at every turn you try to put dirt on us :D its funny, because as long as your dieing and we know in our hearts we play fare thats all that matters to me and the other evol. we couldn't care less what you think as long as your dieing :) |
Jade Constantine |
Posted - 2003.10.13 18:23:00 -
[23] I have to concur with regard to the instability last night and today. The game has been incredibly unreliable; I've had around half a dozen node-drop CTD style things in the middle of conversations ... funnily enough I didn't suspect my chat partners of doing it on purpose ... love and peace JF Public Forum |
 Jade Constantine Gallente Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction |
Posted - 2003.10.13 18:23:00 -
[24] I have to concur with regard to the instability last night and today. The game has been incredibly unreliable; I've had around half a dozen node-drop CTD style things in the middle of conversations ... funnily enough I didn't suspect my chat partners of doing it on purpose ... love and peace JF Public Forum |
Nirvy |
Posted - 2003.10.13 18:30:00 -
[25] As much as i dont like Evol's Strategy of logging several people in a system off, and then waiting for anyone to engage their sole ship logged in, and then getting the other 6 ships to relog and kill the attacker (Had to get that off my chest )I doubt they would purposely cause a CTD, as annoying and childish as they can be Last night was a ***** for most of us, i ended up just logging off i was CTD'ing that much :\ |
 Nirvy Minmatar |
Posted - 2003.10.13 18:30:00 -
[26]As much as i dont like Evol's Strategy of logging several people in a system off, and then waiting for anyone to engage their sole ship logged in, and then getting the other 6 ships to relog and kill the attacker (Had to get that off my chest ) I doubt they would purposely cause a CTD, as annoying and childish as they can be Last night was a ***** for most of us, i ended up just logging off i was CTD'ing that much :\ |
 Inquisitor Lord |
Posted - 2003.10.13 18:41:00 -
[27]
If they are doing the logging/re-loggin trick, I think that they are not above causing a CTD. I think that the logging/re-logging tactic borders on an Exploit and should be delt with accordingly. |
 Inquisitor Lord |
Posted - 2003.10.13 18:41:00 -
[28]
If they are doing the logging/re-loggin trick, I think that they are not above causing a CTD. I think that the logging/re-logging tactic borders on an Exploit and should be delt with accordingly. |
Nirvy |
Posted - 2003.10.13 18:49:00 -
[29]
Naw im not accusing them, as i said i find it an annoyance at most. Ironically its the Evol Members who i see doing the whole Forum Warrior thing whom i find irratating and immature, some of the Evol i fought have been fair, honest, and can congratulate a loss, or not be an arse if i die. (weirdly i never see these guys posting) Yea logging/relogging is cheap way of making the map even less accurate than it is already, but for now its permitted in the game. Until evidence shows otherwise i would say last night was a result of the awful servers. |
Nirvy Minmatar |
Posted - 2003.10.13 18:49:00 -
[30]
Naw im not accusing them, as i said i find it an annoyance at most. Ironically its the Evol Members who i see doing the whole Forum Warrior thing whom i find irratating and immature, some of the Evol i fought have been fair, honest, and can congratulate a loss, or not be an arse if i die. (weirdly i never see these guys posting) Yea logging/relogging is cheap way of making the map even less accurate than it is already, but for now its permitted in the game. Until evidence shows otherwise i would say last night was a result of the awful servers. |
 Shrike |
Posted - 2003.10.13 18:53:00 -
[31] lol, you guys ever heard about moving? You know, the map cant keep up since it only updates every 5 mins. Keep posting those accusations though, its amusing. |
Shrike Evolution Band of Brothers |
Posted - 2003.10.13 18:53:00 -
[32] lol, you guys ever heard about moving? You know, the map cant keep up since it only updates every 5 mins. Keep posting those accusations though, its amusing. [center] |
Nirvy |
Posted - 2003.10.13 19:05:00 -
[33] Edited by: Nirvy on 13/10/2003 19:09:39
Sorry dont wanna get in a ****ing contest as most CA/SA/FA Threads do. I have seen 4 of your members log on the second a lone Evol ship was attacked (A scorp running shield hardeners) Obviously you will deny it i dont expect otherwise, i thought it was common knowledge however?, ill go dig up the chat log in minute for you to see.Like i said, most of you are half decent ppl, and good at PvP. Hell i need someone to fight, i sure as hell wouldnt want to have to mine ever again  This is a game, i beleive CA will win. I beleive CA is in the right. I Enjoy blowing up CA's Enemies. That said, it is only a game to me, I'll leave the forum politics to people more suited to them such as Sarkos, Jade already proved that out of game events can influnce what goes on in game. We see far too often what these threads degenerate into when everyone and their dog decides to have a b itch and accusation session, to me that doesnt add to the games immersion, just makes it annoying to try and divulge facts from |
Nirvy Minmatar |
Posted - 2003.10.13 19:05:00 -
[34] Edited by: Nirvy on 13/10/2003 19:09:39
Sorry dont wanna get in a ****ing contest as most CA/SA/FA Threads do. I have seen 4 of your members log on the second a lone Evol ship was attacked (A scorp running shield hardeners) Obviously you will deny it i dont expect otherwise, i thought it was common knowledge however?, ill go dig up the chat log in minute for you to see.Like i said, most of you are half decent ppl, and good at PvP. Hell i need someone to fight, i sure as hell wouldnt want to have to mine ever again This is a game, i beleive CA will win. I beleive CA is in the right. I Enjoy blowing up CA's Enemies. That said, it is only a game to me, I'll leave the forum politics to people more suited to them such as Sarkos, Jade already proved that out of game events can influnce what goes on in game. We see far too often what these threads degenerate into when everyone and their dog decides to have a b itch and accusation session, to me that doesnt add to the games immersion, just makes it annoying to try and divulge facts from |
Jade Constantine |
Posted - 2003.10.13 19:48:00 -
[35]
Of course I would refute the suggestion that Eve alliance politics and public relations statements are out of game events. After all, what gets said on these forums and on the web-sites serving the eve community will influence the desires and expectations of players within the game. Losing a war? You need more recruits, more allies, more equipment and more organisation. Sure you can bombard the in-game recruitment channel till your fingers drop off; but why not short-circuit the issue and mass market your conflict to the benefit of allies and the viewing public alike? The game includes the forums. Deny it as you will, but to be honest, that leaves you more or less in the same boat as the poor saps who dream of eco-simulation without PvP. Eve is what it is. Love and peace JF Public Forum |
Jade Constantine Gallente Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction |
Posted - 2003.10.13 19:48:00 -
[36]
Of course I would refute the suggestion that Eve alliance politics and public relations statements are out of game events. After all, what gets said on these forums and on the web-sites serving the eve community will influence the desires and expectations of players within the game. Losing a war? You need more recruits, more allies, more equipment and more organisation. Sure you can bombard the in-game recruitment channel till your fingers drop off; but why not short-circuit the issue and mass market your conflict to the benefit of allies and the viewing public alike? The game includes the forums. Deny it as you will, but to be honest, that leaves you more or less in the same boat as the poor saps who dream of eco-simulation without PvP. Eve is what it is. Love and peace JF Public Forum |
Lottsa Pox |
Posted - 2003.10.13 19:50:00 -
[37] LOL, another i lost my ship to CTD the opponent must be cheating topic. I have personally been in combat with evolution. And here are my findings. Never once have I seen Evol use an exploit. All tactics I have SEEN used against me or M3G4 at the time were great use of their strengths to our weakness. Dont hate them because you cant win. Just own up to losing your ship. Enjoy the game, I know I am  Lottsa Pox Pox to ya pod BioMass Cartel Enjoy the game, I know I am Lottsa Pox Pox to ya pod BioMass Cartel Podding a system near you |
 Lottsa Pox The Scope |
Posted - 2003.10.13 19:50:00 -
[38] LOL, another i lost my ship to CTD the opponent must be cheating topic. I have personally been in combat with evolution. And here are my findings. Never once have I seen Evol use an exploit. All tactics I have SEEN used against me or M3G4 at the time were great use of their strengths to our weakness. Dont hate them because you cant win. Just own up to losing your ship. Enjoy the game, I know I am Lottsa Pox Pox to ya pod BioMass Cartel Enjoy the game, I know I am Lottsa Pox Pox to ya pod BioMass Cartel Podding a system near you |
Probe |
Posted - 2003.10.13 20:01:00 -
[39]
There's yer proof Reclaimer! Jade confirms yer claims about EVOL causing CTDs on CA forces... she crashed alot on the other side of the EVE universe, so it's clearly EVOL cheating!  PS: Sorry to use yer name Jade, but nonsense evidence is the only way to counter nonsense exclamations :) |
 Probe Amarr |
Posted - 2003.10.13 20:01:00 -
[40]
There's yer proof Reclaimer! Jade confirms yer claims about EVOL causing CTDs on CA forces... she crashed alot on the other side of the EVE universe, so it's clearly EVOL cheating! PS: Sorry to use yer name Jade, but nonsense evidence is the only way to counter nonsense exclamations :) |
 Exel Aurora |
Posted - 2003.10.13 20:07:00 -
[41]
Wow, you think logging off and then relogging back in to help a buddy out is a borderline exploit. God forbid we can't login or logout whenever we want to. Sounds like a nice, risky tactic that requires alot of coordination, communincation and teamwork to me. |
 Exel Aurora |
Posted - 2003.10.13 20:07:00 -
[42]
Wow, you think logging off and then relogging back in to help a buddy out is a borderline exploit. God forbid we can't login or logout whenever we want to. Sounds like a nice, risky tactic that requires alot of coordination, communincation and teamwork to me. |
Teelmaster |
Posted - 2003.10.13 20:10:00 -
[43] Honestly, i have no idea who uber miner and what actually are. Obviously, they are from CA. However, they dont represent the views of the CA alliance and i wish they would stop posting b/c they are basically forum ass monkeys with no balls to post under their real names. That being said, while i may not like evol i respect them as an corporation and worthy enemy. While the grid exploits in hlw tainted my view somewhat by those who used them, most are still worthy warriors who i respect and enjoy fighting. |
 Teelmaster Caldari Provisions |
Posted - 2003.10.13 20:10:00 -
[44] Honestly, i have no idea who uber miner and what actually are. Obviously, they are from CA. However, they dont represent the views of the CA alliance and i wish they would stop posting b/c they are basically forum ass monkeys with no balls to post under their real names. That being said, while i may not like evol i respect them as an corporation and worthy enemy. While the grid exploits in hlw tainted my view somewhat by those who used them, most are still worthy warriors who i respect and enjoy fighting. |
The Reclaimer |
Posted - 2003.10.13 20:13:00 -
[45]
Excuse me? How did my name get dragged into this?  I have never lost a ship to CTD or to Evolution for that matter. Why am I being brought into this matter? Are you obsessed with me or something? Jees, I am getting scared. Next thing I know one of you little Evol kiddy's will be outside my house in a trench coat. Its just a game ppl, there is no need to get obsessed with game characters. I seriously hope that none of you end up in a padded room because of this game. |
 The Reclaimer Brutor tribe |
Posted - 2003.10.13 20:13:00 -
[46]
Excuse me? How did my name get dragged into this? I have never lost a ship to CTD or to Evolution for that matter. Why am I being brought into this matter? Are you obsessed with me or something? Jees, I am getting scared. Next thing I know one of you little Evol kiddy's will be outside my house in a trench coat. Its just a game ppl, there is no need to get obsessed with game characters. I seriously hope that none of you end up in a padded room because of this game. |
 Supe |
Posted - 2003.10.13 20:36:00 -
[47] Actually it's well known not to even bother fighting evol amongst curse alliance members cuz of ther blatent exploitation of bugs and certiant modules. So far systems not even bother fightin in are HLW,Vol and one or two others cuz evol members seem to know the location of alot of the grids which means it is possible that a few players are using 3rd party software to locate grids for exploitation. |
 Supe |
Posted - 2003.10.13 20:36:00 -
[48] Actually it's well known not to even bother fighting evol amongst curse alliance members cuz of ther blatent exploitation of bugs and certiant modules. So far systems not even bother fightin in are HLW,Vol and one or two others cuz evol members seem to know the location of alot of the grids which means it is possible that a few players are using 3rd party software to locate grids for exploitation. |
 Nirvy |
Posted - 2003.10.13 20:43:00 -
[49]
You miss-understood, or maybe i phrased it poorly maybe. I was trying to indicate that the Forum politics doesnt particulary interest me, i dont deny they are a very important role, but im a mere fighter peon, i do what i told an dont mind  Some of us like being pawns Im not a very fluent writer, and so generally withdraw from political talks, as im sure many of your allies did a week ago |
Nirvy Minmatar |
Posted - 2003.10.13 20:43:00 -
[50]
You miss-understood, or maybe i phrased it poorly maybe. I was trying to indicate that the Forum politics doesnt particulary interest me, i dont deny they are a very important role, but im a mere fighter peon, i do what i told an dont mind Some of us like being pawns Im not a very fluent writer, and so generally withdraw from political talks, as im sure many of your allies did a week ago |
Jade Constantine |
Posted - 2003.10.13 20:52:00 -
[51] no offense taken m'dear Nirvy, and thanks for the clarification. I am a little sensitive on the out of game thing because I think a few folks didn't understand where my competitive instincts ended during the venal war. Alls fair in love and war in the game universe, but we gotta have some respect for each other outside the simulated conflict ... after all, we are spending a fair bit of time in the same consensual reality ... how many geezers on the street know the performance differential in medium range hybrid ammo types eh? ;) JF Public Forum |
Jade Constantine Gallente Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction |
Posted - 2003.10.13 20:52:00 -
[52] no offense taken m'dear Nirvy, and thanks for the clarification. I am a little sensitive on the out of game thing because I think a few folks didn't understand where my competitive instincts ended during the venal war. Alls fair in love and war in the game universe, but we gotta have some respect for each other outside the simulated conflict ... after all, we are spending a fair bit of time in the same consensual reality ... how many geezers on the street know the performance differential in medium range hybrid ammo types eh? ;) JF Public Forum |
 Nirvy |
Posted - 2003.10.13 21:18:00 -
[53]
Naw you shouldn't be sensitive over it, you were good at what you did/do, even if reading all your posts made poor Nirvies head ache at 4 in the morning I respect most people, including my alliances enemies, that said im easily irritated and pretty huffy PS my Mate just spat beer over me as i tried to explain the medium hybrid ammo types. |
Nirvy Minmatar |
Posted - 2003.10.13 21:18:00 -
[54]
Naw you shouldn't be sensitive over it, you were good at what you did/do, even if reading all your posts made poor Nirvies head ache at 4 in the morning I respect most people, including my alliances enemies, that said im easily irritated and pretty huffy PS my Mate just spat beer over me as i tried to explain the medium hybrid ammo types. |
Flatliner |
Posted - 2003.10.13 21:27:00 -
[55]Heh us exploit, man that's the best joke I heard for a long time, nice guys I laughed my ass off at that one. GM confirmed we never grid exploited at the jumpin point, so go figure. There was however a grid at the vol gate, and your CA ships were at the gate, we attacked, you lost, only then did you whine at losing ships at a gate with a grid, which imo you must have known about but thought you'd win the battle. Grid at gate, CA camping gate. Go figure. This can be checked with the dev "Tom B". So who is the grid exploiters really.. Nuff said time to stroke hmm yes Sarkos's corpse I think. Flatliner. |
 Flatliner Spectre Systems |
Posted - 2003.10.13 21:27:00 -
[56]Heh us exploit, man that's the best joke I heard for a long time, nice guys I laughed my ass off at that one. GM confirmed we never grid exploited at the jumpin point, so go figure. There was however a grid at the vol gate, and your CA ships were at the gate, we attacked, you lost, only then did you whine at losing ships at a gate with a grid, which imo you must have known about but thought you'd win the battle. Grid at gate, CA camping gate. Go figure. This can be checked with the dev "Tom B". So who is the grid exploiters really.. Nuff said time to stroke hmm yes Sarkos's corpse I think. Flatliner. |
Joshua Calvert |
Posted - 2003.10.13 21:33:00 -
[57]
Logging off and on is a good tactic, if you ask me. LEEEEERRRRRRRRRRROOOOOOOOOYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY! |
 Joshua Calvert Caldari Celestial Horizon Corp. |
Posted - 2003.10.13 21:33:00 -
[58]
Logging off and on is a good tactic, if you ask me. |
Homo Erectus |
Posted - 2003.10.13 21:58:00 -
[59]
roofle. well known? no, it's not. but i do love it when morons like you hop on here and use phrases like "it's well known", "it's obvious" and "clearly" when whatever you are stating is anything but factual, obvious, or clear. when we got to curse and started scouting around, we laughed because of all the grids. we were not surprised that the pirate dolts would choose an area so littered with messed up grids. evolution do not use grid exploits. we will not use any exploits. don't cry because you can't fight. don't blame your cowardice on something that doesn't exist(us using exploits). just man up and admit you suffer from small penile disease. |
 Homo Erectus Amarr Evolution |
Posted - 2003.10.13 21:58:00 -
[60]
roofle. well known? no, it's not. but i do love it when morons like you hop on here and use phrases like "it's well known", "it's obvious" and "clearly" when whatever you are stating is anything but factual, obvious, or clear. when we got to curse and started scouting around, we laughed because of all the grids. we were not surprised that the pirate dolts would choose an area so littered with messed up grids. evolution do not use grid exploits. we will not use any exploits. don't cry because you can't fight. don't blame your cowardice on something that doesn't exist(us using exploits). just man up and admit you suffer from small penile disease. |
 Stained |
Posted - 2003.10.13 22:01:00 -
[61] Edited by: Stained on 13/10/2003 22:15:57 Edited by: Stained on 13/10/2003 22:13:48 Evol does not exploit...... As a matter of fact most of the evolution guys are easy to get along with and pretty easy going(cept for Homo Erectus and Flatliner, I think they got a screw or two loose). I doubt they would do something like that. Anyways the server was really unstable yesterday, so don't post without legit proof. Oh yea, and the whole Logging off and logging on thing is way cheap. It brings the whole aspect of in-game fighting to a who can hide more players way of playing. That just isn't right IMO. No RP'ing aspect to logging in and out at all. Anyways just puttin my two cents in. Oh yea, CA pwns you ;). ___________________________________________________________________ Hair is Over-rated. |
 Stained Minmatar Four Horsemen |
Posted - 2003.10.13 22:01:00 -
[62] Edited by: Stained on 13/10/2003 22:15:57 Edited by: Stained on 13/10/2003 22:13:48 Evol does not exploit...... As a matter of fact most of the evolution guys are easy to get along with and pretty easy going(cept for Homo Erectus and Flatliner, I think they got a screw or two loose). I doubt they would do something like that. Anyways the server was really unstable yesterday, so don't post without legit proof. Oh yea, and the whole Logging off and logging on thing is way cheap. It brings the whole aspect of in-game fighting to a who can hide more players way of playing. That just isn't right IMO. No RP'ing aspect to logging in and out at all. Anyways just puttin my two cents in. Oh yea, CA pwns you ;). ___________________________________________________________________ Hair is Over-rated. |
Khaydin |
Posted - 2003.10.13 22:27:00 -
[63] Hahah! If this was true, the poster (either Loose Cannon, or Toffi3) would have used their real char instead of an alt. Do a search for what and that char doesn't even exist anymore. They know its not true and didn't wanna look like morons so they posted it on an alt and probably deleted it right after posting. GG |
 Khaydin |
Posted - 2003.10.13 22:27:00 -
[64] Hahah! If this was true, the poster (either Loose Cannon, or Toffi3) would have used their real char instead of an alt. Do a search for what and that char doesn't even exist anymore. They know its not true and didn't wanna look like morons so they posted it on an alt and probably deleted it right after posting. GG |
Joshua Calvert |
Posted - 2003.10.13 22:32:00 -
[65]
Jump-in camping has become de rigeur for the same reasons...lame but effective. Gives people a taste of what cloaking devices will bring to the game. LEEEEERRRRRRRRRRROOOOOOOOOYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY! |
Joshua Calvert Caldari Celestial Horizon Corp. |
Posted - 2003.10.13 22:32:00 -
[66]
Jump-in camping has become de rigeur for the same reasons...lame but effective. Gives people a taste of what cloaking devices will bring to the game. |
Rebellion |
Posted - 2003.10.14 01:11:00 -
[67] I have a confession to make. Since Eve started - nay, even during alpha and beta - we have been using tactics that are not supported by the game engine. In engagements between equal numbers and classes of ships, one would expect that the outcome would be equal losses. However, due to our exploitation of these tactics, we have always won otherwise equal engagements. We have been using a similar approach for resource gathering as well as business. Thus allowing us to function independently of any other corporation or entity. Our tactics make Megacyte duplicating look like scrounging for loose change in comparison. Right now there are other people who have discovered this tactic and they are, to my knowledge, also using it as well. We thought, in the beginning, that everyone would eventually discover it on their own, but unfortunately people have either not found out or are just unwilling to use it to their advantage. I do also testify that I have not seen Sinister, or CA itself, use these tactics ever. They probably know about it but decide not to use it. These tactics that are not supported by the game engine, that make otherwise equal engagements imbalanced in favor of those who use it, that have ensured that we always have the resources we need, that allow us to know where all our enemies are, that have always been the deciding factor in each of our victories, that Sinc and CA have never used since the beginning of the conflict... is known as Intelligence. Plain 'ol smarts.
You have not used this as well in making allegations that we are using or doing things that are... just... no... longer... possible. Unfortunately, CCP cannot fix the game engine to make everyone equal regardless of intelligence. I believe the appropirate term for this is "GG". GG. |
 Rebellion Caldari Evolution Band of Brothers |
Posted - 2003.10.14 01:11:00 -
[68] I have a confession to make. Since Eve started - nay, even during alpha and beta - we have been using tactics that are not supported by the game engine. In engagements between equal numbers and classes of ships, one would expect that the outcome would be equal losses. However, due to our exploitation of these tactics, we have always won otherwise equal engagements. We have been using a similar approach for resource gathering as well as business. Thus allowing us to function independently of any other corporation or entity. Our tactics make Megacyte duplicating look like scrounging for loose change in comparison. Right now there are other people who have discovered this tactic and they are, to my knowledge, also using it as well. We thought, in the beginning, that everyone would eventually discover it on their own, but unfortunately people have either not found out or are just unwilling to use it to their advantage. I do also testify that I have not seen Sinister, or CA itself, use these tactics ever. They probably know about it but decide not to use it. These tactics that are not supported by the game engine, that make otherwise equal engagements imbalanced in favor of those who use it, that have ensured that we always have the resources we need, that allow us to know where all our enemies are, that have always been the deciding factor in each of our victories, that Sinc and CA have never used since the beginning of the conflict... is known as Intelligence. Plain 'ol smarts.
You have not used this as well in making allegations that we are using or doing things that are... just... no... longer... possible. Unfortunately, CCP cannot fix the game engine to make everyone equal regardless of intelligence. I believe the appropirate term for this is "GG". GG. |
Xenovetica |
Posted - 2003.10.14 01:32:00 -
[69] The logging trick definitely borders on exploitation. It takes no skill at all, and very minimal communication. "Okay, we're at the gate/station/satellite... everybody but ____ log off." "Okay, the enemy is shooting at me, log in!" Honestly... this is lame. I can't believe that some of the posters here who talk smack about how great they are would have to do this to take out their enemies. Actually, on second thought, I can believe it. |
 Xenovetica Minmatar Brutor tribe |
Posted - 2003.10.14 01:32:00 -
[70] The logging trick definitely borders on exploitation. It takes no skill at all, and very minimal communication. "Okay, we're at the gate/station/satellite... everybody but ____ log off." "Okay, the enemy is shooting at me, log in!" Honestly... this is lame. I can't believe that some of the posters here who talk smack about how great they are would have to do this to take out their enemies. Actually, on second thought, I can believe it. |
Deathwing |
Posted - 2003.10.14 01:48:00 -
[71] WTF is all this logging on stuff how do you know that those pilots are not just sitting at the jump gate from the next system waiting for you?? Just because they "appear" in local right away after you engage the lone pilot, does not mean that they just logged on ffs Get a clue <Stavros> A MAN DRESSED AS SPIDERMAN KICKED MY ASS |
 Deathwing Amarr Evolution Band of Brothers |
Posted - 2003.10.14 01:48:00 -
[72] WTF is all this logging on stuff how do you know that those pilots are not just sitting at the jump gate from the next system waiting for you?? Just because they "appear" in local right away after you engage the lone pilot, does not mean that they just logged on ffs Get a clue <Stavros> A MAN DRESSED AS SPIDERMAN KICKED MY ASS |
Xenovetica |
Posted - 2003.10.14 02:20:00 -
[73] Erm... poor attempt there. You can watch people pour into local as they jump in, and almost all of the encounters have been away from the jump-in points. It's blatently obvious when it happens, and it grants an advantage due to out-of-game mechanics. You guys shouldn't have to sink to doing crap like that. You're better than that. |
Xenovetica Minmatar Brutor tribe |
Posted - 2003.10.14 02:20:00 -
[74] Erm... poor attempt there. You can watch people pour into local as they jump in, and almost all of the encounters have been away from the jump-in points. It's blatently obvious when it happens, and it grants an advantage due to out-of-game mechanics. You guys shouldn't have to sink to doing crap like that. You're better than that. |
Homo Erectus |
Posted - 2003.10.14 02:41:00 -
[75] i said this in the other thread about evol supposedly cheating, so forgive me for repeating myself. sinister crying about evol's tactics, and crying that we supposedly exploit crap, strikes me as a good signal to all who is really winning this war. for the longest time, the world of eve thought sinister was some big bad foe. ppl *****ed about them all the time. their lag traps at entry points, stations and gates. they kept doing it. their good close buddies at m0o even openly exploited known bugs. now, after being chased halfway around the eve universe, still losing the war they started, they are resorting to accusing us of exploitation. they are frowning on us for using 'lame' tactics that 'definitely borders on exploitation'. it is very clear who is winning this war. when the supposedly almighty wolves of sinister have to resort to such obvious hypocracy. HOMO I AM SOMEBODY...SOMEBODY WHO SAYS WHAT NO ONE ELSE IN CAREBEAR REALM DARE SAY, YOUR A GREIFER WHO IS A LEGEND IN YOUR OWN MIND! YOU NEED TO WAKE FROM YOUR DILUSION THAT EVERYONE LIKES YOU AND THAT YOUR THE MASTER OF EVE. - fanboy, Q1 2004 |
Homo Erectus Amarr Evolution |
Posted - 2003.10.14 02:41:00 -
[76] i said this in the other thread about evol supposedly cheating, so forgive me for repeating myself. sinister crying about evol's tactics, and crying that we supposedly exploit crap, strikes me as a good signal to all who is really winning this war. for the longest time, the world of eve thought sinister was some big bad foe. ppl *****ed about them all the time. their lag traps at entry points, stations and gates. they kept doing it. their good close buddies at m0o even openly exploited known bugs. now, after being chased halfway around the eve universe, still losing the war they started, they are resorting to accusing us of exploitation. they are frowning on us for using 'lame' tactics that 'definitely borders on exploitation'. it is very clear who is winning this war. when the supposedly almighty wolves of sinister have to resort to such obvious hypocracy. HOMO I AM SOMEBODY...SOMEBODY WHO SAYS WHAT NO ONE ELSE IN CAREBEAR REALM DARE SAY, YOUR A GREIFER WHO IS A LEGEND IN YOUR OWN MIND! YOU NEED TO WAKE FROM YOUR DILUSION THAT EVERYONE LIKES YOU AND THAT YOUR THE MASTER OF EVE. - fanboy, Q1 2004 |
Rebellion |
Posted - 2003.10.14 04:47:00 -
[77] All this talk about logging off and logging in remind me of RUS. It also reminds me of how, several weeks back, 8 of us in HLW were up against a visible 14 others in local. When we killed one ship local suddenly exploded to 44 people and the entire system became lagged. If I remember correctly MASS or EV (I forget which) encountered this thing in one of their first fights with CA. You need to realize where your reports are coming from Xenovetica (assuming you have no hand in this discreditation attempt yourself). It is far easier for your pilots to say "WTF THEY APPEARED OUT OF NOWHERE" after they got killed by a lone ship of ours acting as bait and an anchor for the rest of the squad to warp to. They would rather say that than "we didn't check the adjacent system and we were too eager about killing a lone ship that we didn't realize that he was just delaying us for the rest of his squad to arrive". The former is easier to say and less embarassing. |
Rebellion Caldari Evolution Band of Brothers |
Posted - 2003.10.14 04:47:00 -
[78] All this talk about logging off and logging in remind me of RUS. It also reminds me of how, several weeks back, 8 of us in HLW were up against a visible 14 others in local. When we killed one ship local suddenly exploded to 44 people and the entire system became lagged. If I remember correctly MASS or EV (I forget which) encountered this thing in one of their first fights with CA. You need to realize where your reports are coming from Xenovetica (assuming you have no hand in this discreditation attempt yourself). It is far easier for your pilots to say "WTF THEY APPEARED OUT OF NOWHERE" after they got killed by a lone ship of ours acting as bait and an anchor for the rest of the squad to warp to. They would rather say that than "we didn't check the adjacent system and we were too eager about killing a lone ship that we didn't realize that he was just delaying us for the rest of his squad to arrive". The former is easier to say and less embarassing. |
Javi |
Posted - 2003.10.14 06:17:00 -
[79] k lets see how this works... assuming that we actually do this logging trick: evol/fa/sa whoever, enters a hostile system with hostiles docked or in safe spot and nobody attacks them...
ca goes into a mad feeding frenzy and attacks lone ship...
evol/fa/sa logs and all ca ships that are not killed are warping...
this coming from an idiot from an idiot alliance who eagerly use any known exploits.
idiot?... yup. -- "well..." -Estarriol, Evolution AZN Calculat |
 Javi Evolution Band of Brothers |
Posted - 2003.10.14 06:17:00 -
[80] k lets see how this works... assuming that we actually do this logging trick: evol/fa/sa whoever, enters a hostile system with hostiles docked or in safe spot and nobody attacks them...
ca goes into a mad feeding frenzy and attacks lone ship...
evol/fa/sa logs and all ca ships that are not killed are warping...
this coming from an idiot from an idiot alliance who eagerly use any known exploits.
idiot?... yup. -- -Everyone has a photographic memory, some people just don't have any film.. |
boeses frettchen |
Posted - 2003.10.14 06:30:00 -
[81] this so totally reminds me of venal. we did exactly the same there and after almost every kill local was screaming 'exploit'. its nothing but good coordination and confidence in your enemies stupidity. |
 boeses frettchen 4S Corporation Morsus Mihi |
Posted - 2003.10.14 06:30:00 -
[82] this so totally reminds me of venal. we did exactly the same there and after almost every kill local was screaming 'exploit'. its nothing but good coordination and confidence in your enemies stupidity. |
Jelwar Kurbani |
Posted - 2003.10.14 06:48:00 -
[83] A few questions, if I may. CA Representitives: Do you feel that the possiblity of Evolution and her allies' alleged use of CTD and other exploits are hindering your war effort? Can you confirm or deny allegations that you have in the past or present used CTD or other such exploits for your own purposes? Are you considering using said exploits in an attempt to as it were "fight fire with fire"? Evolution-alligned corporations: Can you confirm or deny these allegations that you have in the past and currently used CTD or other exploits in this war against the CA allies? Do you believe that these allegations are mearly a "smoke screen" to taint the image of your side of the war? How far has Evolution penetrated into CA controlled space? I apologize if these questions seem redundant, but I'd like to establish official statements that can be accurately quoted upon for further arguements and debate. Set things in stone, so to speak. Jelwar Kurbani, AP Founder WE will be there... The Truth At Any Cost! |
 Jelwar Kurbani Gallente Doomheim |
Posted - 2003.10.14 06:48:00 -
[84] A few questions, if I may. CA Representitives: Do you feel that the possiblity of Evolution and her allies' alleged use of CTD and other exploits are hindering your war effort? Can you confirm or deny allegations that you have in the past or present used CTD or other such exploits for your own purposes? Are you considering using said exploits in an attempt to as it were "fight fire with fire"? Evolution-alligned corporations: Can you confirm or deny these allegations that you have in the past and currently used CTD or other exploits in this war against the CA allies? Do you believe that these allegations are mearly a "smoke screen" to taint the image of your side of the war? How far has Evolution penetrated into CA controlled space? I apologize if these questions seem redundant, but I'd like to establish official statements that can be accurately quoted upon for further arguements and debate. Set things in stone, so to speak. Jelwar Kurbani, AP Founder WE will be there... The Truth At Any Cost! |
IIIIIIIII |
Posted - 2003.10.14 07:25:00 -
[85] heres a quick question you missed; Is it true that the members of the CA using megacyte/mineral duplication are responsible for the "baby roid" problem currently affecting eve's closed system of distribution? |
 IIIIIIIII Gallente Evolution |
Posted - 2003.10.14 07:25:00 -
[86] heres a quick question you missed; Is it true that the members of the CA using megacyte/mineral duplication are responsible for the "baby roid" problem currently affecting eve's closed system of distribution? |
Rebellion |
Posted - 2003.10.14 07:30:00 -
[87] Can you confirm or deny these allegations that you have in the past and currently used CTD or other exploits in this war against the CA allies? One of the reasons why we have decided to annihilate Sinc/RUS/m0o and their pirate allies was their usage of exploits. Evolution does not use exploits. We achieve via creativity what our enemies need exploits to do. Do you believe that these allegations are mearly a "smoke screen" to taint the image of your side of the war? Yes. They are also intended to serve as an alibi to their reluctance to face us in space. As well as setting a stage for future excuses as to why they are capable of losing 17 ships in a single day to our 0. How far has Evolution penetrated into CA controlled space? Evolution is not present in any CA controlled space. CA does not control any space. |
Rebellion Caldari Evolution Band of Brothers |
Posted - 2003.10.14 07:30:00 -
[88] Can you confirm or deny these allegations that you have in the past and currently used CTD or other exploits in this war against the CA allies? One of the reasons why we have decided to annihilate Sinc/RUS/m0o and their pirate allies was their usage of exploits. Evolution does not use exploits. We achieve via creativity what our enemies need exploits to do. Do you believe that these allegations are mearly a "smoke screen" to taint the image of your side of the war? Yes. They are also intended to serve as an alibi to their reluctance to face us in space. As well as setting a stage for future excuses as to why they are capable of losing 17 ships in a single day to our 0. How far has Evolution penetrated into CA controlled space? Evolution is not present in any CA controlled space. CA does not control any space. |
ProphetGuru |
Posted - 2003.10.14 11:19:00 -
[89] The folks making the accusations will no doubt not take my word for it, my being FA, but, having flown with evol in curse for a bit, and watching them operate, I can honestly say I have never ever ever once seen this logon/off trick. All you are seeing is planning, experience, and tactics. I've been on their ts, and to be frank, they simply know what they are doing, as opposed to ca not being able to find their own a-s-s with two hands and a map. I am sure ca has some good pilots, and corps, but their seems to be a pretty big lapse in communication and strategy imho. Well, less the strategy is to hide all damn day... Evolution..... Just when you thought you were winning. |
 ProphetGuru Gallente Evolution Band of Brothers |
Posted - 2003.10.14 11:19:00 -
[90] The folks making the accusations will no doubt not take my word for it, my being FA, but, having flown with evol in curse for a bit, and watching them operate, I can honestly say I have never ever ever once seen this logon/off trick. All you are seeing is planning, experience, and tactics. I've been on their ts, and to be frank, they simply know what they are doing, as opposed to ca not being able to find their own a-s-s with two hands and a map. I am sure ca has some good pilots, and corps, but their seems to be a pretty big lapse in communication and strategy imho. Well, less the strategy is to hide all damn day... GG, only took yas 6 months |
Thrak |
Posted - 2003.10.14 12:30:00 -
[91] I (and my DP corp mates) have fought alongside Evolution both last week and this weekend past. Needless to say I have also been present on Teamspeak. They do not exploit. If they did I would not fight alongside them. Every kill made (a lot) has been down to CA mistakes - something which they are finding hard to explain to both allies and themselves. Simply put the Curse Alliance are suffering huge casualties- and this (rather late IMHO) propaganda attempt is a futile effort to stem the tide of CA blood. |
 Thrak Eternity INC. Mercenary Coalition |
Posted - 2003.10.14 12:30:00 -
[92] I (and my DP corp mates) have fought alongside Evolution both last week and this weekend past. Needless to say I have also been present on Teamspeak. They do not exploit. If they did I would not fight alongside them. Every kill made (a lot) has been down to CA mistakes - something which they are finding hard to explain to both allies and themselves. Simply put the Curse Alliance are suffering huge casualties- and this (rather late IMHO) propaganda attempt is a futile effort to stem the tide of CA blood. |
Javi |
Posted - 2003.10.14 12:53:00 -
[93] if anything, we exploit their mistakes? -- "well..." -Estarriol, Evolution AZN Calculat |
Javi Evolution Band of Brothers |
Posted - 2003.10.14 12:53:00 -
[94] if anything, we exploit their mistakes? -- -Everyone has a photographic memory, some people just don't have any film.. |
The Reclaimer |
Posted - 2003.10.14 12:58:00 -
[95] Does anyone actually believe anything written in the forums? Basically, we have a couple hundred Sean Hannities and Rush Limbaughs who couldnt possiblly be wrong or do anything wrong. This goes for both sides btw. I tire of readying lies and chest pounding bravado. Keep your bs to your side. Or, perhapse is this what the forums are for? To dump loads of steaming horse dung on the Eve population. |
The Reclaimer Brutor tribe |
Posted - 2003.10.14 12:58:00 -
[96] Does anyone actually believe anything written in the forums? Basically, we have a couple hundred Sean Hannities and Rush Limbaughs who couldnt possiblly be wrong or do anything wrong. This goes for both sides btw. I tire of readying lies and chest pounding bravado. Keep your bs to your side. Or, perhapse is this what the forums are for? To dump loads of steaming horse dung on the Eve population. |
Homo Erectus |
Posted - 2003.10.14 13:36:00 -
[97] reclaimer, it would be alot easier to believe what was written on the forums if you and your buddies would stop polluting them with lies. |
Homo Erectus Amarr Evolution |
Posted - 2003.10.14 13:36:00 -
[98] reclaimer, it would be alot easier to believe what was written on the forums if you and your buddies would stop polluting them with lies. |
The Reclaimer |
Posted - 2003.10.14 14:13:00 -
[99]
I can admit that perhaps things from my side may have been misconstruded. Surely, you can agree that your side has do so as well. |
The Reclaimer Brutor tribe |
Posted - 2003.10.14 14:13:00 -
[100]
I can admit that perhaps things from my side may have been misconstruded. Surely, you can agree that your side has do so as well. |
Redan Chulipa |
Posted - 2003.10.14 23:00:00 -
[101] Man that sutty is ugly, does Evolution keep him as evidence of the missing link and what does animal rights activists say about keeping him in a cage?? |
 Redan Chulipa Doomheim |
Posted - 2003.10.14 23:00:00 -
[102] Man that sutty is ugly, does Evolution keep him as evidence of the missing link and what does animal rights activists say about keeping him in a cage?? |
pooti |
Posted - 2003.10.15 07:11:00 -
[103] More like Homo Exploitus. |
 pooti Sebiestor tribe |
Posted - 2003.10.15 07:11:00 -
[104] More like Homo Exploitus. |
Cormyat Astara |
Posted - 2003.10.15 17:12:00 -
[105]
What exploits does he use? Does he "exploit" peoples' stupidity? Does he "exploit" peoples' carelessness? Does he "exploit" peoples' lack of skill? Or does he "exploit" the fact that too many peeps in this game think they know PvP but in reality they don't have a clue? What's funny is the more time peeps spend accusing Evol of exploits, the less time y'all are spending actually figuring out how to counter what they do. |
 Cormyat Astara Caldari Caldari Provisions |
Posted - 2003.10.15 17:12:00 -
[106]
What exploits does he use? Does he "exploit" peoples' stupidity? Does he "exploit" peoples' carelessness? Does he "exploit" peoples' lack of skill? Or does he "exploit" the fact that too many peeps in this game think they know PvP but in reality they don't have a clue? What's funny is the more time peeps spend accusing Evol of exploits, the less time y'all are spending actually figuring out how to counter what they do. |
pooti |
Posted - 2003.10.15 17:59:00 -
[107]
Take things less seriously. |
pooti Sebiestor tribe |
Posted - 2003.10.15 17:59:00 -
[108]
Take things less seriously. |
Mr Blonde |
Posted - 2003.10.15 18:03:00 -
[109] This thread is an homage to how pityful the CA actually is. __________________________________________ Are you gonna bark all day, little doggy, or are you gonna bite?? |
 Mr Blonde Amarr |
Posted - 2003.10.15 18:03:00 -
[110] This thread is an homage to how pityful the CA actually is. __________________________________________ Are you gonna bark all day, little doggy, or are you gonna bite?? |
Homo Erectus |
Posted - 2003.10.16 05:49:00 -
[111] it's ok pooti. i've killed ppl in homeworld and jumpgate and been called a cheater/exploiter, it was only a matter of time before it happened here too. and don't worry, i take you as seriously as I take blood collectors in .7 space. |
Homo Erectus Amarr Evolution |
Posted - 2003.10.16 05:49:00 -
[112] it's ok pooti. i've killed ppl in homeworld and jumpgate and been called a cheater/exploiter, it was only a matter of time before it happened here too. and don't worry, i take you as seriously as I take blood collectors in .7 space. |
Exel Aurora |
Posted - 2003.10.16 06:14:00 -
[113]
Is Homo logging out and logging in again? What a fecking cheater. |
Exel Aurora |
Posted - 2003.10.16 06:14:00 -
[114]
Is Homo logging out and logging in again? What a fecking cheater. |
Uzael |
Posted - 2003.10.16 06:31:00 -
[115]
I would believe almost anything on here as long as you or one of your corp members DID NOT say it. Oh wait let me rephrase that for ya. I would believe it if, it were written by anyone but You, your corp mates, your alliance members, Sarkos himself, Leyla, and most definately Xirtam. P.S. Were still waiting for your address so we can send you that pony for your 16th birthday. By the way we are sending one for Bob too, since CFS blew up his BS the other night. -------------- UZAEL |
 Uzael Amarr Imperial Shipment |
Posted - 2003.10.16 06:31:00 -
[116]
I would believe almost anything on here as long as you or one of your corp members DID NOT say it. Oh wait let me rephrase that for ya. I would believe it if, it were written by anyone but You, your corp mates, your alliance members, Sarkos himself, Leyla, and most definately Xirtam. P.S. Were still waiting for your address so we can send you that pony for your 16th birthday. By the way we are sending one for Bob too, since CFS blew up his BS the other night. -------------- UZAEL |
Calladen Nimitz |
Posted - 2003.10.16 07:05:00 -
[117] While with TTi I was no fan of Evolution. My attitude toward them has softened considerably though (age and experience bring wisdom) and I see them now as people just having a good time attacking pirates. That being said in all my time in Venal I never once heard anyone up there accuse them of exploiting. The CTD and shield booster CTD thing was well known then as were evolving grid exploits yet I never once heard a VA member (back before the civil war) accuse them of exploiting. I've seen nothing to indicate they are and no evidence has been presented short of a chat log with TomB which is vauge at best. I have to believe in the absense of evidence to the contrary they do not exploit in the game. Calladen Nimitz |
 Calladen Nimitz Caldari Deep Core Mining Inc. |
Posted - 2003.10.16 07:05:00 -
[118] While with TTi I was no fan of Evolution. My attitude toward them has softened considerably though (age and experience bring wisdom) and I see them now as people just having a good time attacking pirates. That being said in all my time in Venal I never once heard anyone up there accuse them of exploiting. The CTD and shield booster CTD thing was well known then as were evolving grid exploits yet I never once heard a VA member (back before the civil war) accuse them of exploiting. I've seen nothing to indicate they are and no evidence has been presented short of a chat log with TomB which is vauge at best. I have to believe in the absense of evidence to the contrary they do not exploit in the game. Calladen Nimitz SOVEREIGN ENTERPRISES WEBPAGE AND FORUMS |
 illuminati |
Posted - 2003.10.16 09:35:00 -
[119] Edited by: illuminati on 16/10/2003 09:39:40 Hehe... If you want hybrid loot and CUs, go to Fountain. If you want to avoid hostilities doing so, talk to someone in FA first. If you want to listen to intelligent insults and laugh some, read posts by Homo, Sutty or Shrike. This Evolution ch34ts h4Xx0rs is getting old imo. I'm guessing they are smart enough to use the same methods as the people they are attacking. Even though they help close down a region which I dont approve much of, I like their game so far. Mess with us, we mess with you, simple. ****, if I had known more about them before I dedicated myself to military ops in CFS maybe I would have applied for Evol. If nothing else, then just for respect of the high-end flaming, that's rare and classy ffs. Edit: **** = S h i t |
 illuminati |
Posted - 2003.10.16 09:35:00 -
[120] Edited by: illuminati on 16/10/2003 09:39:40 Hehe... If you want hybrid loot and CUs, go to Fountain. If you want to avoid hostilities doing so, talk to someone in FA first. If you want to listen to intelligent insults and laugh some, read posts by Homo, Sutty or Shrike. This Evolution ch34ts h4Xx0rs is getting old imo. I'm guessing they are smart enough to use the same methods as the people they are attacking. Even though they help close down a region which I dont approve much of, I like their game so far. Mess with us, we mess with you, simple. ****, if I had known more about them before I dedicated myself to military ops in CFS maybe I would have applied for Evol. If nothing else, then just for respect of the high-end flaming, that's rare and classy ffs. Edit: **** = S h i t |
pooti |
Posted - 2003.10.19 01:15:00 -
[121]
Are you retarded. Is it not obvious that I was kidding. You people. |
pooti Sebiestor tribe |
Posted - 2003.10.19 01:15:00 -
[122]
Are you retarded. Is it not obvious that I was kidding. You people. |
pooti Sebiestor tribe |
Posted - 2003.10.19 01:15:00 -
[123]
Are you retarded. Is it not obvious that I was kidding. You people. |
Exel Aurora |
Posted - 2003.10.19 06:31:00 -
[124]
Whoa, take it easy there big boy. And the question is: "Are you not retarded?" It was quite obvious that I was kidding. |
Exel Aurora |
Posted - 2003.10.19 06:31:00 -
[125]
Whoa, take it easy there big boy. And the question is: "Are you not retarded?" It was quite obvious that I was kidding. |
Exel Aurora |
Posted - 2003.10.19 06:31:00 -
[126]
Whoa, take it easy there big boy. And the question is: "Are you not retarded?" It was quite obvious that I was kidding. |
Seer |
Posted - 2003.10.19 11:38:00 -
[127] Edited by: Seer on 19/10/2003 11:39:52 GUYS GUYS GUYS Everyone who has ever encountered evol or the rest of the stain alliance know that they use every exploit, cheat, or game mechanic they can. Personally in the last 7 days I have witnessed them grid exploiting on many occasions as well as using the exploit in 1.0 empire space to kill an afk miner at a belt. Before you all jump on with ya incessent whining and pathetic defenses --------------------------------------------- One corpmate had a reply to the petition where the GM actually states that most of the people mentioned in the petition about Evolution corporation are already under close observation due to numbers of complaints and all witnessed by a GM will be perma banned. --------------------------------------------- Sooo evol - enjoy your remaining game time and the rest of you relax - its being taken care of.  --------------------------------------------------- |
 Seer The Angeleyes |
Posted - 2003.10.19 11:38:00 -
[128] Edited by: Seer on 19/10/2003 11:39:52 GUYS GUYS GUYS Everyone who has ever encountered evol or the rest of the stain alliance know that they use every exploit, cheat, or game mechanic they can. Personally in the last 7 days I have witnessed them grid exploiting on many occasions as well as using the exploit in 1.0 empire space to kill an afk miner at a belt. Before you all jump on with ya incessent whining and pathetic defenses --------------------------------------------- One corpmate had a reply to the petition where the GM actually states that most of the people mentioned in the petition about Evolution corporation are already under close observation due to numbers of complaints and all witnessed by a GM will be perma banned. --------------------------------------------- Sooo evol - enjoy your remaining game time and the rest of you relax - its being taken care of. Sig removed, lacks game related content. Please contact [email protected] for more info (including a copy of your picture!) -Pirlouit |
Seer The Angeleyes |
Posted - 2003.10.19 11:38:00 -
[129] Edited by: Seer on 19/10/2003 11:39:52 GUYS GUYS GUYS Everyone who has ever encountered evol or the rest of the stain alliance know that they use every exploit, cheat, or game mechanic they can. Personally in the last 7 days I have witnessed them grid exploiting on many occasions as well as using the exploit in 1.0 empire space to kill an afk miner at a belt. Before you all jump on with ya incessent whining and pathetic defenses --------------------------------------------- One corpmate had a reply to the petition where the GM actually states that most of the people mentioned in the petition about Evolution corporation are already under close observation due to numbers of complaints and all witnessed by a GM will be perma banned. --------------------------------------------- Sooo evol - enjoy your remaining game time and the rest of you relax - its being taken care of. Sig removed, lacks game related content. Please contact [email protected] for more info (including a copy of your picture!) -Pirlouit |
Revolution |
Posted - 2003.10.19 11:54:00 -
[130]
;) |
 Revolution Amarr Evolution Band of Brothers |
Posted - 2003.10.19 11:54:00 -
[131]
;) |
Revolution Amarr Evolution Band of Brothers |
Posted - 2003.10.19 11:54:00 -
[132]
;) |
Bizarre |
Posted - 2003.10.19 11:58:00 -
[133] OMG EVOLUTION ARE TEH CHEAT0RS! /me tosses barrels at Javi and Homo Erectus On a more serious note though, I have fought along with Evolution in Fountain and Venal and NEVER have I seen them using an exploit. There have been investigations when people were complaining about us (evol/xan) using exploits, but the GM's never ever said we were using an exploit. Now if the carebears could stop complaining and just face that Evolution ARE skilled guys then I can go back to my bed in Fountain. Bizarre Deathwing > U LIKE THOSE NUTS ON YA CHIN? |
 Bizarre TAOSP |
Posted - 2003.10.19 11:58:00 -
[134] OMG EVOLUTION ARE TEH CHEAT0RS! /me tosses barrels at Javi and Homo Erectus On a more serious note though, I have fought along with Evolution in Fountain and Venal and NEVER have I seen them using an exploit. There have been investigations when people were complaining about us (evol/xan) using exploits, but the GM's never ever said we were using an exploit. Now if the carebears could stop complaining and just face that Evolution ARE skilled guys then I can go back to my bed in Fountain. Bizarre |
Bizarre TAOSP |
Posted - 2003.10.19 11:58:00 -
[135] OMG EVOLUTION ARE TEH CHEAT0RS! /me tosses barrels at Javi and Homo Erectus On a more serious note though, I have fought along with Evolution in Fountain and Venal and NEVER have I seen them using an exploit. There have been investigations when people were complaining about us (evol/xan) using exploits, but the GM's never ever said we were using an exploit. Now if the carebears could stop complaining and just face that Evolution ARE skilled guys then I can go back to my bed in Fountain. Bizarre |
Snakester |
Posted - 2003.10.19 12:03:00 -
[136]
ehehe, oh Loose Cannon and Toffi3 are still in the game, u wanna actually do a search for them m8 b4 saying they've been deleted a far as loose cannon says( and i know her in RL) she was sitting outside our station and u wasn't there, then all of a sudden u popped into veiw 94km away from station, she laughed cos when she accused u of using a grid u said u had just warped in , but in fact she was scanning and it showed u being within 150km of said station, and forgive me if im wrong , but u cant warp too anywhere within 150km ???? oh and as soon as u left the system she dropped a can outside station, targeted it and flew in the direction u came from , oh and guess what, the can detargeted at roughly around 95-100km away, u got found out, accused, and u came out with lame excuse's. U Khaydin have been measured, and been found wanting. PS, as dev's says , after the matter it isn't worth reporting as they cant prove or disprove it, so this incident hasn't been reported, but khaydin and i know what really happened dont we, oh and i ask that u do it again. Snake. |
 Snakester Caldari Solar Storm X-PACT |
Posted - 2003.10.19 12:03:00 -
[137]
ehehe, oh Loose Cannon and Toffi3 are still in the game, u wanna actually do a search for them m8 b4 saying they've been deleted a far as loose cannon says( and i know her in RL) she was sitting outside our station and u wasn't there, then all of a sudden u popped into veiw 94km away from station, she laughed cos when she accused u of using a grid u said u had just warped in , but in fact she was scanning and it showed u being within 150km of said station, and forgive me if im wrong , but u cant warp too anywhere within 150km ???? oh and as soon as u left the system she dropped a can outside station, targeted it and flew in the direction u came from , oh and guess what, the can detargeted at roughly around 95-100km away, u got found out, accused, and u came out with lame excuse's. U Khaydin have been measured, and been found wanting. PS, as dev's says , after the matter it isn't worth reporting as they cant prove or disprove it, so this incident hasn't been reported, but khaydin and i know what really happened dont we, oh and i ask that u do it again. Snake. |
Snakester Caldari Solar Storm X-PACT |
Posted - 2003.10.19 12:03:00 -
[138]
ehehe, oh Loose Cannon and Toffi3 are still in the game, u wanna actually do a search for them m8 b4 saying they've been deleted a far as loose cannon says( and i know her in RL) she was sitting outside our station and u wasn't there, then all of a sudden u popped into veiw 94km away from station, she laughed cos when she accused u of using a grid u said u had just warped in , but in fact she was scanning and it showed u being within 150km of said station, and forgive me if im wrong , but u cant warp too anywhere within 150km ???? oh and as soon as u left the system she dropped a can outside station, targeted it and flew in the direction u came from , oh and guess what, the can detargeted at roughly around 95-100km away, u got found out, accused, and u came out with lame excuse's. U Khaydin have been measured, and been found wanting. PS, as dev's says , after the matter it isn't worth reporting as they cant prove or disprove it, so this incident hasn't been reported, but khaydin and i know what really happened dont we, oh and i ask that u do it again. Snake. |
Javi |
Posted - 2003.10.19 12:06:00 -
[139]
i recommend reading the whole thread before opening your n00bish mouth, imbecile.
i would like to see what the GMs have to say about this. if their response reveals the truth(that no evol cheats) then i'd ask that you do everyone a favor and put yourself out of your misery. -- "well..." -Estarriol, Evolution AZN Calculat |
Javi Evolution Band of Brothers |
Posted - 2003.10.19 12:06:00 -
[140]
i recommend reading the whole thread before opening your n00bish mouth, imbecile.
i would like to see what the GMs have to say about this. if their response reveals the truth(that no evol cheats) then i'd ask that you do everyone a favor and put yourself out of your misery. -- -Everyone has a photographic memory, some people just don't have any film.. |
Javi Evolution Band of Brothers |
Posted - 2003.10.19 12:06:00 -
[141]
i recommend reading the whole thread before opening your n00bish mouth, imbecile.
i would like to see what the GMs have to say about this. if their response reveals the truth(that no evol cheats) then i'd ask that you do everyone a favor and put yourself out of your misery. -- -Everyone has a photographic memory, some people just don't have any film.. |
M Hoshi |
Posted - 2003.10.19 14:57:00 -
[142]
You know your doing well in a game, when the people you are fighting against start posting frankly crap posts in an attempt to spread rumours in an attempt to undermine you - in a place they feel safe (forums?). Please, by all means continue my friend, as long as *I* know that myself, or anyone else in evolution doesn't purposefully exploit, I couldn't relaly give a rats arse about what some person with more bark than bite says. And on the note of this said GM 'informing you', Interesting indeed, consider this. Discussions between players and GM's are confidential, and in that respect conversations, or even those believed to be expoited would not be discussed with players - Come on, can't you think of anything else? |
 M Hoshi Minmatar Evolution |
Posted - 2003.10.19 14:57:00 -
[143]
You know your doing well in a game, when the people you are fighting against start posting frankly crap posts in an attempt to spread rumours in an attempt to undermine you - in a place they feel safe (forums?). Please, by all means continue my friend, as long as *I* know that myself, or anyone else in evolution doesn't purposefully exploit, I couldn't relaly give a rats arse about what some person with more bark than bite says. And on the note of this said GM 'informing you', Interesting indeed, consider this. Discussions between players and GM's are confidential, and in that respect conversations, or even those believed to be expoited would not be discussed with players - Come on, can't you think of anything else? |
M Hoshi Minmatar Evolution |
Posted - 2003.10.19 14:57:00 -
[144]
You know your doing well in a game, when the people you are fighting against start posting frankly crap posts in an attempt to spread rumours in an attempt to undermine you - in a place they feel safe (forums?). Please, by all means continue my friend, as long as *I* know that myself, or anyone else in evolution doesn't purposefully exploit, I couldn't relaly give a rats arse about what some person with more bark than bite says. And on the note of this said GM 'informing you', Interesting indeed, consider this. Discussions between players and GM's are confidential, and in that respect conversations, or even those believed to be expoited would not be discussed with players - Come on, can't you think of anything else? |
ziip |
Posted - 2003.10.19 15:27:00 -
[145] well going by the aittude of the few members i have encountered - yes doesn't suprise me if they are. zippy |
 ziip |
Posted - 2003.10.19 15:27:00 -
[146] well going by the aittude of the few members i have encountered - yes doesn't suprise me if they are. zippy |
ziip |
Posted - 2003.10.19 15:27:00 -
[147] well going by the aittude of the few members i have encountered - yes doesn't suprise me if they are. zippy |
Khaydin |
Posted - 2003.10.19 15:30:00 -
[148]
Look who started this thread snake, look at my post again and you'll see I was talking about the character 'what', obviously an alt of either Loose Cannon or Toffi3 that was deleted after posting this garbage.
Loose Cannon > + my scanner showed u less then 250km away Khaydin > i was 232km away He was scanning at 250km as he said, and I was sitting 232km away. Clearly far enough for me to warp to the station. Get your facts right before you post please. It just makes you look like a moron when you're proved wrong. I love how people just change information to suit their argument. |
Khaydin |
Posted - 2003.10.19 15:30:00 -
[149]
Look who started this thread snake, look at my post again and you'll see I was talking about the character 'what', obviously an alt of either Loose Cannon or Toffi3 that was deleted after posting this garbage.
Loose Cannon > + my scanner showed u less then 250km away Khaydin > i was 232km away He was scanning at 250km as he said, and I was sitting 232km away. Clearly far enough for me to warp to the station. Get your facts right before you post please. It just makes you look like a moron when you're proved wrong. I love how people just change information to suit their argument. |
Khaydin |
Posted - 2003.10.19 15:30:00 -
[150]
Look who started this thread snake, look at my post again and you'll see I was talking about the character 'what', obviously an alt of either Loose Cannon or Toffi3 that was deleted after posting this garbage.
Loose Cannon > + my scanner showed u less then 250km away Khaydin > i was 232km away He was scanning at 250km as he said, and I was sitting 232km away. Clearly far enough for me to warp to the station. Get your facts right before you post please. It just makes you look like a moron when you're proved wrong. I love how people just change information to suit their argument. |
Shamrock |
Posted - 2003.10.19 16:24:00 -
[151]
Funny, Evolution hasn't been in Curse in 10 days. Shamrock |
 Shamrock Evolution Band of Brothers |
Posted - 2003.10.19 16:24:00 -
[152]
Funny, Evolution hasn't been in Curse in 10 days. Your signature is inappropriate ( copyrighted material). Please read the forum rules before reposting- Tirg |
Shamrock Evolution Band of Brothers |
Posted - 2003.10.19 16:24:00 -
[153]
Funny, Evolution hasn't been in Curse in 10 days. Your signature is inappropriate ( copyrighted material). Please read the forum rules before reposting- Tirg |
Mr Blonde |
Posted - 2003.10.19 17:26:00 -
[154]
Someone got caught lying __________________________________________ Are you gonna bark all day, little doggy, or are you gonna bite?? |
Mr Blonde Amarr |
Posted - 2003.10.19 17:26:00 -
[155]
Someone got caught lying __________________________________________ Are you gonna bark all day, little doggy, or are you gonna bite?? |
Mr Blonde Amarr |
Posted - 2003.10.19 17:26:00 -
[156]
Someone got caught lying __________________________________________ Are you gonna bark all day, little doggy, or are you gonna bite?? |
Homo Erectus |
Posted - 2003.10.19 22:45:00 -
[157] I forgive your parents, seer. |
Homo Erectus Amarr Evolution |
Posted - 2003.10.19 22:45:00 -
[158] I forgive your parents, seer. |
Homo Erectus Amarr Evolution |
Posted - 2003.10.19 22:45:00 -
[159] I forgive your parents, seer. |
pooti |
Posted - 2003.10.20 02:12:00 -
[160]
Yes, because he clearly meant he saw these guys in Curse. I mean, there are TONS of 1.0s with AFK miners here. Kill yourself. |
pooti Sebiestor tribe |
Posted - 2003.10.20 02:12:00 -
[161]
Yes, because he clearly meant he saw these guys in Curse. I mean, there are TONS of 1.0s with AFK miners here. Kill yourself. |
pooti Sebiestor tribe |
Posted - 2003.10.20 02:12:00 -
[162]
Yes, because he clearly meant he saw these guys in Curse. I mean, there are TONS of 1.0s with AFK miners here. Kill yourself. |
sutty |
Posted - 2003.10.20 07:05:00 -
[163] its funny really, since hardly any of us go into empire, we just visit when we need to. |
sutty Amarr Evolution |
Posted - 2003.10.20 07:05:00 -
[164] its funny really, since hardly any of us go into empire, we just visit when we need to. |
sutty Amarr Evolution |
Posted - 2003.10.20 07:05:00 -
[165] its funny really, since hardly any of us go into empire, we just visit when we need to. |
Mr Blonde |
Posted - 2003.10.20 07:23:00 -
[166]
If you do a little research on conjunctions, and take classes from Captain Obvious for a week or so you might understand why your a complete fckin idiot. but hey dont worry, seems to run in the corporation... __________________________________________ Are you gonna bark all day, little doggy, or are you gonna bite?? |
Mr Blonde Amarr |
Posted - 2003.10.20 07:23:00 -
[167]
If you do a little research on conjunctions, and take classes from Captain Obvious for a week or so you might understand why your a complete fckin idiot. but hey dont worry, seems to run in the corporation... __________________________________________ Are you gonna bark all day, little doggy, or are you gonna bite?? |
Mr Blonde Amarr |
Posted - 2003.10.20 07:23:00 -
[168]
If you do a little research on conjunctions, and take classes from Captain Obvious for a week or so you might understand why your a complete fckin idiot. but hey dont worry, seems to run in the corporation... __________________________________________ Are you gonna bark all day, little doggy, or are you gonna bite?? |
Smith |
Posted - 2003.10.20 13:01:00 -
[169] Look guys there is a solution to all this mess. If you see Evolution just avoid them. Log off, leave the system, dock or do whatever. Then Evolution can't be accussed of cheating. From my expirience some of those Evo guys are good, but there are some where I hear their names cursed and cursed again for being underhanded. If there was some way of maybe posting a list of names and what they tactics use then maybe we can avoid those dodgy ones and take on the guys who are not on the list without the fear of being shortchanged. We could even setup a list that doesn't just apply to Evo but applies to all individuals who are to be approached with caution. |
 Smith Caldari Destructive Influence Band of Brothers |
Posted - 2003.10.20 13:01:00 -
[170] Look guys there is a solution to all this mess. If you see Evolution just avoid them. Log off, leave the system, dock or do whatever. Then Evolution can't be accussed of cheating. From my expirience some of those Evo guys are good, but there are some where I hear their names cursed and cursed again for being underhanded. If there was some way of maybe posting a list of names and what they tactics use then maybe we can avoid those dodgy ones and take on the guys who are not on the list without the fear of being shortchanged. We could even setup a list that doesn't just apply to Evo but applies to all individuals who are to be approached with caution. |
Smith Caldari Destructive Influence Band of Brothers |
Posted - 2003.10.20 13:01:00 -
[171] Look guys there is a solution to all this mess. If you see Evolution just avoid them. Log off, leave the system, dock or do whatever. Then Evolution can't be accussed of cheating. From my expirience some of those Evo guys are good, but there are some where I hear their names cursed and cursed again for being underhanded. If there was some way of maybe posting a list of names and what they tactics use then maybe we can avoid those dodgy ones and take on the guys who are not on the list without the fear of being shortchanged. We could even setup a list that doesn't just apply to Evo but applies to all individuals who are to be approached with caution. |
Seer |
Posted - 2003.10.20 13:02:00 -
[172] Edited by: Seer on 20/10/2003 13:15:23 LMAO - aint even looked at this thread since posting and its amazing how defensive you guys are. But yes you do need stop making bits up yourself... Where did I say it was in curse..? Quite right there aint much 1.0 in curse lmao Guys I have no need to defend myself especially as I have been contacted by the said gm who asked that I do not give away identities. But he is in posession of many gifts from us the good players of eve in order to aid the task. But you do need to defend yourselves and perhaps just have the balls to make a decision to change your ways. If you beat me in a fair fight (and i mean no use of grids, bugs, ctd modules, without log-off camping - I am not talking about being outnumbered cos then i am dumb to even engage) then you will have my respect and you will have earnt it. But it seems to me to be more than a little bit more than coincidence that every time your name is mentioned the talk is immediately of exploits. I think that CCP are starting to agree. Guys - you have some decent fighters for sure - you also have a lot of muppets, a much higher ratio than others corps. I dont understand why people cant just fight without using the games unintended intricacies for some advantage? Where is the fun in that? One member of your corp has even contacted me since the original post to agree and apologise for your corps behaviour ffs!! It's just a G A M E but for some it seems to be a pen15-extending exercise which is beyond sad but unfortuneatly a trend through the gaming world. And btw stop the personal abuse - it just makes you look like the 12yo's you seem to be + I'm better at it :P In a perfect PvP world every fight would be free of exploits - just a good pit of ship v ship, module v module, skill v skill. The other day we had a member of your allies MASS in a scorp who fended off 3 battleships for a good 3-4 minutes before escaping. We all started a little behind as we had just destroyed an Armageddon and so were running low on cap but still no escuse by a long way. This dude was great - every angle we tried he seemed to have a response and i dont think he fired a shot - just saved all his cap for defensive maneouvres and his quick thinking saved the day. The 1st thing I did was congratulate him on local channel and had we had more time I would have enjoyed a blow by blow recount of the battle with him. He earned my respect and I bet all 3 of us learnt something. THATS WHAT PVP IS ABOUT - Not gank fests and cheating. --------------------------------------------------- |
Seer The Angeleyes |
Posted - 2003.10.20 13:02:00 -
[173] Edited by: Seer on 20/10/2003 13:15:23 LMAO - aint even looked at this thread since posting and its amazing how defensive you guys are. But yes you do need stop making bits up yourself... Where did I say it was in curse..? Quite right there aint much 1.0 in curse lmao Guys I have no need to defend myself especially as I have been contacted by the said gm who asked that I do not give away identities. But he is in posession of many gifts from us the good players of eve in order to aid the task. But you do need to defend yourselves and perhaps just have the balls to make a decision to change your ways. If you beat me in a fair fight (and i mean no use of grids, bugs, ctd modules, without log-off camping - I am not talking about being outnumbered cos then i am dumb to even engage) then you will have my respect and you will have earnt it. But it seems to me to be more than a little bit more than coincidence that every time your name is mentioned the talk is immediately of exploits. I think that CCP are starting to agree. Guys - you have some decent fighters for sure - you also have a lot of muppets, a much higher ratio than others corps. I dont understand why people cant just fight without using the games unintended intricacies for some advantage? Where is the fun in that? One member of your corp has even contacted me since the original post to agree and apologise for your corps behaviour ffs!! It's just a G A M E but for some it seems to be a pen15-extending exercise which is beyond sad but unfortuneatly a trend through the gaming world. And btw stop the personal abuse - it just makes you look like the 12yo's you seem to be + I'm better at it :P In a perfect PvP world every fight would be free of exploits - just a good pit of ship v ship, module v module, skill v skill. The other day we had a member of your allies MASS in a scorp who fended off 3 battleships for a good 3-4 minutes before escaping. We all started a little behind as we had just destroyed an Armageddon and so were running low on cap but still no escuse by a long way. This dude was great - every angle we tried he seemed to have a response and i dont think he fired a shot - just saved all his cap for defensive maneouvres and his quick thinking saved the day. The 1st thing I did was congratulate him on local channel and had we had more time I would have enjoyed a blow by blow recount of the battle with him. He earned my respect and I bet all 3 of us learnt something. THATS WHAT PVP IS ABOUT - Not gank fests and cheating. Sig removed, lacks game related content. Please contact [email protected] for more info (including a copy of your picture!) -Pirlouit |
Seer The Angeleyes |
Posted - 2003.10.20 13:02:00 -
[174] Edited by: Seer on 20/10/2003 13:15:23 LMAO - aint even looked at this thread since posting and its amazing how defensive you guys are. But yes you do need stop making bits up yourself... Where did I say it was in curse..? Quite right there aint much 1.0 in curse lmao Guys I have no need to defend myself especially as I have been contacted by the said gm who asked that I do not give away identities. But he is in posession of many gifts from us the good players of eve in order to aid the task. But you do need to defend yourselves and perhaps just have the balls to make a decision to change your ways. If you beat me in a fair fight (and i mean no use of grids, bugs, ctd modules, without log-off camping - I am not talking about being outnumbered cos then i am dumb to even engage) then you will have my respect and you will have earnt it. But it seems to me to be more than a little bit more than coincidence that every time your name is mentioned the talk is immediately of exploits. I think that CCP are starting to agree. Guys - you have some decent fighters for sure - you also have a lot of muppets, a much higher ratio than others corps. I dont understand why people cant just fight without using the games unintended intricacies for some advantage? Where is the fun in that? One member of your corp has even contacted me since the original post to agree and apologise for your corps behaviour ffs!! It's just a G A M E but for some it seems to be a pen15-extending exercise which is beyond sad but unfortuneatly a trend through the gaming world. And btw stop the personal abuse - it just makes you look like the 12yo's you seem to be + I'm better at it :P In a perfect PvP world every fight would be free of exploits - just a good pit of ship v ship, module v module, skill v skill. The other day we had a member of your allies MASS in a scorp who fended off 3 battleships for a good 3-4 minutes before escaping. We all started a little behind as we had just destroyed an Armageddon and so were running low on cap but still no escuse by a long way. This dude was great - every angle we tried he seemed to have a response and i dont think he fired a shot - just saved all his cap for defensive maneouvres and his quick thinking saved the day. The 1st thing I did was congratulate him on local channel and had we had more time I would have enjoyed a blow by blow recount of the battle with him. He earned my respect and I bet all 3 of us learnt something. THATS WHAT PVP IS ABOUT - Not gank fests and cheating. Sig removed, lacks game related content. Please contact [email protected] for more info (including a copy of your picture!) -Pirlouit |
Seer |
Posted - 2003.10.20 13:18:00 -
[175] And just to make it clear to anyone - we have never lost a ship to these guys so this aint a bitter whine - just an appeal for some kind of interest in PvP. --------------------------------------------------- |
Seer The Angeleyes |
Posted - 2003.10.20 13:18:00 -
[176] And just to make it clear to anyone - we have never lost a ship to these guys so this aint a bitter whine - just an appeal for some kind of interest in PvP. Sig removed, lacks game related content. Please contact [email protected] for more info (including a copy of your picture!) -Pirlouit |
Seer The Angeleyes |
Posted - 2003.10.20 13:18:00 -
[177] And just to make it clear to anyone - we have never lost a ship to these guys so this aint a bitter whine - just an appeal for some kind of interest in PvP. Sig removed, lacks game related content. Please contact [email protected] for more info (including a copy of your picture!) -Pirlouit |
Sequin |
Posted - 2003.10.20 14:06:00 -
[178] Curses, Seers right! Now i'll have to remove my CTD cannons and grid cloak modules before the GM's find me.  ^A Raem Civre Original EVE-Trade, for your buying and selling needs. A Voogru original. [i]Redon > evol and mass have a GM helping them with everything Redon > notice how they always get ships replaced and none of us cant <--- Hurray for teamwork! b] We are evil exploiters! |
 Sequin Gallente The Scope |
Posted - 2003.10.20 14:06:00 -
[179] Curses, Seers right! Now i'll have to remove my CTD cannons and grid cloak modules before the GM's find me. ^A Raem Civre Original EVE-Trade, for your buying and selling needs. A Voogru original. [i]Redon > evol and mass have a GM helping them with everything Redon > notice how they always get ships replaced and none of us cant <--- Hurray for teamwork! b] We are evil exploiters! |
Sequin Gallente The Scope |
Posted - 2003.10.20 14:06:00 -
[180] Curses, Seers right! Now i'll have to remove my CTD cannons and grid cloak modules before the GM's find me. ^A Raem Civre Original EVE-Trade, for your buying and selling needs. A Voogru original. [i]Redon > evol and mass have a GM helping them with everything Redon > notice how they always get ships replaced and none of us cant <--- Hurray for teamwork! b] We are evil exploiters! |
Seer The Angeleyes |
Posted - 2003.10.20 14:23:00 -
[181] lol Sig removed, lacks game related content. Please contact [email protected] for more info (including a copy of your picture!) -Pirlouit |
Seer The Angeleyes |
Posted - 2003.10.20 14:23:00 -
[182] lol Sig removed, lacks game related content. Please contact [email protected] for more info (including a copy of your picture!) -Pirlouit |
 SD22 |
Posted - 2007.02.25 11:25:00 -
[183]
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SD22 |
Posted - 2007.02.25 11:25:00 -
[184]
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 Djerin Obsidian Exploration Services |
Posted - 2007.02.25 11:26:00 -
[185] Necromancer! IBTL
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Djerin Obsidian Exploration Services |
Posted - 2007.02.25 11:26:00 -
[186] Necromancer! IBTL
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 Captain Thunk Captain Morgan Society |
Posted - 2007.02.25 11:36:00 -
[187] Some things don't change huh? If you have a problem, if no one else can help, and if you can find them, maybe you can hire...The ENP-Team. |
Captain Thunk Captain Morgan Society |
Posted - 2007.02.25 11:36:00 -
[188] Some things don't change huh? If you have a problem, if no one else can help, and if you can find them, maybe you can hire...The ENP-Team. |
 theslayer Caldari Exanimo Inc Triumvirate. |
Posted - 2007.02.25 11:43:00 -
[189] Really what was the point of pulling this old thing back from the dead... go shoot bob instead of creating more slander. |
theslayer Caldari Exanimo Inc Triumvirate. |
Posted - 2007.02.25 11:43:00 -
[190] Really what was the point of pulling this old thing back from the dead... go shoot bob instead of creating more slander. |
 Mikhail Glatinov |
Posted - 2007.02.25 11:49:00 -
[191] Can we not just kill each other with some amount of dignity and honour? Or is that too much to ask of adults? |
 Ackath Minmatar Delta team Lotka Volterra |
Posted - 2007.02.25 11:49:00 -
[192] Now that was quality smack :) |
Mikhail Glatinov |
Posted - 2007.02.25 11:49:00 -
[193] Can we not just kill each other with some amount of dignity and honour? Or is that too much to ask of adults? |
Ackath Minmatar Delta team Lotka Volterra |
Posted - 2007.02.25 11:49:00 -
[194] Now that was quality smack :) |
 Tassi Cataclysm Enterprises Dusk and Dawn |
Posted - 2007.02.25 12:13:00 -
[195] deja vu? |
 Blue Rayes Revenge Taste Like Chicken |
Posted - 2007.02.25 12:14:00 -
[196] Nice to see BOB guys back on forum posting on mass been missing that And on the subject of EVOL causing ctd's, really guys you can't be seriuos thinking that they will need that since thye pwn everyone anyways... |
 Ewa Quillam Caldari mega mining corporation Astral Wolves |
Posted - 2007.02.25 12:20:00 -
[197]
Dude, you are so tied up with meta-gaiming that you don't longer know what a game is, even less so playing it fare. And what's with this so sudden need to post from BoB members, you didn't feel the need to justify anything this week, why start now? |
 ScreamingLord Sutch Hand in Mouth |
Posted - 2007.02.25 12:22:00 -
[198]
They were accused of cheating because their opponents sucked 3 years ago. Nothings changed |
 M Amis Beach Bunnys |
Posted - 2007.02.25 12:25:00 -
[199]
Check the date of the thread |
 Nm'Me Amarr |
Posted - 2007.02.25 12:27:00 -
[200]
Learn to read before mindless flaming please. ;) And necormancing should give permban at first offence, tbfh. *snip* please keep sigs EVE-related. Contact [email protected] if you have any further questions - Karass Sayfo |
 Thorsten Kerensky |
Posted - 2007.02.25 12:54:00 -
[201] **** you, necromancer! I nearly had a heart attack when I noticed the JADE post...fortunally I read the date a second later, pfew...you should not wake sleeping drakes, ya know? |
 Weka Dart Caldari Eve Corporation 1173011835 |
Posted - 2007.02.25 12:54:00 -
[202] How dare anyone suggest that BOB. lies or cheats. BOB. would never break any of the game rules. Can anyone honestly say they have ever seen or heard of a BOB. member or alt telling a lie, or stealing anything or gaining any unfair advantage? Every victory BOB. has is achieved purely by the skill and dedication of our pilots and not through any exploits. BOB. are simply that good, to have been able to rule half of 0.0 and defeat every enemy for eleventy or so years now. BOB. is not an alliance, it's a gathering of gods, invincible, truly the eighth wonder of this world and the first and last intergalactic superpower. All tremble and hide at the majesty of the non tricksy BOB. |
 Raem Civrie Umbra Congregatio Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate |
Posted - 2007.02.25 13:08:00 -
[203]
This thread isn't about BoB. This thread is about Evolution, from around 2003, long before there was any "BoB". Also, at the time there was a bug with the sound effect from sensor boosters, which could cause CTD's unless you turned off the sound in EVE. I also remember that Evol members were ordered to a) turn off their sound and b) not use sensor boosters (they were pretty useless back then anyway, iirc). There is a time and place for flaming BoB and calling out their tactics, and this isn't it. It's possibly the lamest and most counter-productive move I've seen yet in this "propaganda war" ---- All you do is bark. You never meow. |
 Alita Tiphares |
Posted - 2007.02.25 13:09:00 -
[204]
And you're so tied up with balancing on your soap box that you didnt notice you just responded to a 3+ year old post. |
 Admiral Pieg Caldari |
Posted - 2007.02.25 13:10:00 -
[205] yarr, i miss the oldschool forum trolls. The ones we have to day just arent doing it for me. |
 Zhuge Liang Forum Moderator Interstellar Services Department  |
Posted - 2007.02.25 13:20:00 -
[206]
Do not ressurect old threads. |
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