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Supe
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Posted - 2003.10.13 21:32:00 -
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http://members.shaw.ca/jasonpatry/frames/res/bugs.html
Here is a chat log of a somthing that happened a few weeks ago between CA and evol and has continued to happen ever since to the point were all Curse Alliance pilots are encouraged not to engage Evol under any conditions due to blatent bug exploitation of grid and ctd bugs.
So remember when engaging evolution there is a very good chance they will abuse bugs against you and use extreme caution and allways submit exploitation reports when things happen with these guys.
Now not all of there players are cheating but it ahppens allmost constnatly so i feel as a rep of Sinister and the eve community you deservered to know whats going on.
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Joshua Calvert
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Posted - 2003.10.13 21:41:00 -
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Is it me or is there a direct correlation between the amount of ships CA have lost (and seemingly struggling to replace) and the number of exploit accusations they are making?
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Joshua Calvert
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Posted - 2003.10.13 21:44:00 -
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There was a GM present, he investigated, he concurred there was no grid exploits being used, and you persist with these claims?
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Joshua Calvert
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Posted - 2003.10.13 21:44:00 -
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[ 2003.09.28 19:13:32 ] GM Sw00sh > There's no way for me to verify if there is some "grid exploiting" going on. Not even if there is an exploit or a bug. The best thing you can do is to send screenshots and logservers to the devs.
[ 2003.09.28 19:26:17 ] GM Sw00sh > i've orbited the group of battleships of around 80-110km, and they never missed my sight
[ 2003.09.28 19:38:48 ] GM Sw00sh > Well, i can agree on them that there is lag when warping to you guys, around 10 bships and 40 drones, but that can't be called stragety or an exploit.
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Drethen Nerevitas
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Posted - 2003.10.13 21:45:00 -
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I continue to claim at the abhorrent lack of a reference to forum whoring in your sig.
End report.
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IMPORTANT: Devs (and players) please take notice.
1. 2. 3. 4. 5. 6. 7. |
Supe
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Posted - 2003.10.13 21:45:00 -
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Other then the fact that Tom B came in a saw the grid exploit himself makes all your comments invalid.
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Joshua Calvert
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Posted - 2003.10.13 21:46:00 -
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So why weren't they banned?
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HavokTBP
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Posted - 2003.10.13 21:49:00 -
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Read the link..... Swoosh was there an spotted it, but apparently couldn't do anything about it.... But since when does CCP every fix anything nowadays? They only change it an it acts up differently. Or not quite as bad.....
So screw you an saying it's an accusation, we had a GM there backing us.
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Leader of The Black Plague.
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HavokTBP
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Posted - 2003.10.13 21:50:00 -
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[ 2003.09.28 20:15:45 ] DragonHart > GM there 3 on left hand side then move to right and all the other guys appear
[ 2003.09.28 20:15:53 ] billy > now that is ****** up
[ 2003.09.28 20:15:53 ] Dukath > the jump in point however is relatively in the middle
[ 2003.09.28 20:15:57 ] GM Sw00sh > wow, i can see it now
Later Swoosh says to not fight there an can't do anything else. Read people read.
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Probe
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Posted - 2003.10.13 21:54:00 -
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So remember when engaging evolution there is a very good chance they will abuse bugs against you
Probably they can even format CA member's computers during a battle so they can win even easyer. 
Also be carefull... one can never be sure if there is an EVOL working for the Income Revenue Service and he CTDs yer Tax Declaration, making yer life a livin hell!
And always have candles at home for emergencies, since u never know when an EVOL decides to CTD half a country's power supply grids just to win a battle with CA
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Joshua Calvert
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Posted - 2003.10.13 21:55:00 -
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As with all claims of exploiting, nobody will believe anyone until a GM/Dev posts on the thread.
AFAIK, grids expand and contract during uptime (resetting during downtime) and are hard to judge.
Evol could well have scouted that spot while the grid was expanded but then used it while the grid was contracted.
I've seen it often in asteroid belts in Stain.
I have often warped to 70km away from the crescent of rocks at a certain belt in a good system and not suffered from grid blindness.
I could try it after downtime and move only 30km before I get grid blindness.
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Homo Erectus
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Posted - 2003.10.13 22:04:00 -
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dude this is awesome.
in homeworld, when idiots accuse you of cheating when they lose, its like a crown that you can wear.
cus obviously you know you weren't cheating. and anyone with half a brain stem knows this too.
supe is one of those newbies, crying because his side fails at eve.
we cant win vs evol *wah wah* *squirt squit*... (CA BRAIN FART) OH I KNOW, LETS SAY THAT THE REASON WE DONT FIGHT THEM IS CUS THEY CHEAT @ EVE. THAT WAY WE WON'T LOOK LIKE THE WEAKLINGS WE ARE!!!!1
sweet.
supe. I'm begging you. more plz dude. more.
cry harder, faster and deeper. stat. |
Homo Erectus
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Posted - 2003.10.13 22:06:00 -
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by the way supe, you master of strawberry shortcake, your whole campaign kinda fails hardcore simply because the ppl within CA(that you claim have been warned that evol OMFG OBVIOUS exploits) are coming forward speaking up for evolution, saying that we do not exploit.
GG SUPE. YOU SIR, ARE NUMERO UNO NIMROD. |
HavokTBP
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Posted - 2003.10.13 22:10:00 -
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Homo stop smoking all that ****. When did he say they weren't exploiting.
Swoosh said it was a bug, not an exploit but everyone knows a bug that is abused is an exploit, so um Swoosh was on something too.
Anyways. He saw the "bug" in quesntion, an Supe was warning people not to fight Evol if this continues to happen.
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StoreSlem
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Posted - 2003.10.13 22:12:00 -
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there is no such thing as a grid exploit.. all there is is a grid bug. morons.
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Dukath
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Posted - 2003.10.13 22:18:00 -
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Do i need to remind people that those funny CA guys showed tomb a DIFFERENT location? They got wasted at the jump in point, they showed tomb the gate which is indeed located at a border between 2 grids.
GM Swoosh checked the jump in location and said it was ok. Tomb checked the gate and fixed it cause it needed fixing.
Evolution does not cheat cause we do not need to cheat. Enough said.
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HavokTBP
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Posted - 2003.10.13 22:18:00 -
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Ya an I wasn't bunny hopping in Counter Strike either.
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Homo Erectus
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Posted - 2003.10.13 22:28:00 -
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HEY HAVOK, GOT SOMETHING JUST FOR YOU SNOOKEMS.
AWWW. *SNIFFLE* |
Arkaine
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Posted - 2003.10.13 22:32:00 -
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Edited by: Arkaine on 13/10/2003 23:11:55
Xander beat me to it :/
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Xander Teg
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Posted - 2003.10.13 22:32:00 -
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[ 2003.09.28 20:18:13 ] GM Sw00sh > There's no possibility to use this grid problem as an exploit. Stop accusing. This is a bug, and the best thing to do is to cease fire and report it.
well that pretty much says everything as far as i'm concerned.
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Xander Teg
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Posted - 2003.10.13 22:34:00 -
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lol. Beat you to it Arkaine.
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MaiLina KaTar
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Posted - 2003.10.13 22:35:00 -
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Hey do you know those ultralong chatlogs that you read and ask yourself why you totally wasted your time reading them completely?
This is one of em...
Mai's Idealog |
PoXiE
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Posted - 2003.10.13 22:35:00 -
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i really like evols new lame approach.
i really encourage everyone to not enagage them atm this is what they are doing.
They will have 1 person camping a gate with lots of warp scramblers and energy neutralizers.
You will warp in thinking..."oh only one person" and youll engage.
You CTD.
Hmmmmm. I guess it might not be those warp scramblers and e.n.s.
So yeah you CTD and you try and log back on.
Your screen loads and you are in your clone station.
No they are not taking after David Blaine, but heres whats happening.
While you are scrambling to log back in, the rest of the Evol ships convieniently logged off at the gate log back in and destroy you.
Can you say lame?
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MaiLina KaTar
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Posted - 2003.10.13 22:37:00 -
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They will have 1 person camping a gate with lots of warp scramblers and energy neutralizers.
You need at least 2 ships with neutralizers using them on one target for that target to CTD. At least that¦s how it was when we did the last test.
Mai's Idealog |
Joshua Calvert
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Posted - 2003.10.13 22:38:00 -
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The poster has been:
Shot down in flames, only just begun
Shot down in flames, under the gun
Shot down in flames, now my song is sung
Shot down in, shot down in, shot down in flames
Words by Rick Santers
All songs ® Santoonz Music SOCAN
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HavokTBP
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Posted - 2003.10.13 22:39:00 -
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Edited by: HavokTBP on 13/10/2003 22:39:36
Lol, an what exactly is an exploit????? I mean hell n00bs said Sin/m0o an Rus exploited all the time. Were they exploiting or just using a bug to it's advantage.
Love how you guys are changing the meaning, an circumstances around. It's only a exploit if used on you huh? Otherwise it's just a bug?
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MaiLina KaTar
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Posted - 2003.10.13 22:42:00 -
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hmm...
thinking about it I just realised that actually, EvE isn¦t that much different to CS or any other shooter.
One party wins, the other looses, then someone screams 'cheat' or whatever and from that moment on you can see the huge fireball of flames from a 20km distance growing steadily 
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Xander Teg
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Posted - 2003.10.13 22:45:00 -
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[ 2003.09.28 20:18:13 ] GM Sw00sh > There's no possibility to use this grid problem as an exploit. Stop accusing. This is a bug, and the best thing to do is to cease fire and report it.
I think i'm just going to periodically post this over the course of this thread...yeah.
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HavokTBP
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Posted - 2003.10.13 22:48:00 -
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And I'm going to say you guys haven't proven me wrong.
Over..
An Over...
An maybe a little more over.
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Homo Erectus
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Posted - 2003.10.13 22:49:00 -
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you know you're beating sinister down hard when they start screaming exploit.
wheres good old jimbo ray to come and call all his corpmates big babies? |
Joshua Calvert
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Posted - 2003.10.13 22:55:00 -
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you know you're beating sinister down hard when they start screaming exploit.
wheres good old jimbo ray to come and call all his corpmates big babies?
Homo, you've hit the nail on the head.
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Homo Erectus
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Posted - 2003.10.13 22:56:00 -
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btw havok, you haven't proven us exploiters either.
i mean, how stupid would the masses have to be to believe a bunch of ex pirating dolts who come forth crying "EXPLOITERS EXPLOITERS!!".
a comparison scenerio:
-a bunch of idiots go around robbing banks.
-the same bunch of idiots supposedly changes their ways.
-some idiots believe the bank robbers and forgive them.
-some non idiots continue hunting and killing the bank robbers.
-the bank robbers then cry wolf when the ppl who are continuing to hunt and kill them, omfg go figure, hunt them down and kill them.
so, moron, prove us as exploiters. it's not our part to prove that we don't exploit, it's your part to prove that we do.
if you can't then hopefully the masses will see you for what you truely are(probly not, one botched chance so far) and point and laugh at your tears. |
HavokTBP
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Posted - 2003.10.13 22:57:00 -
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Heh, Supe said not to fight if Evol continues to do this.
You guys turned it into saying that were saying it's cheating because we lost a couple ships.
Maybe I should start whinning cheat if a npc kills me too huh?
Anyways you then decline doing it even when a GM spotted it.
An change the meaning of Exploit around.
Tell me where I have been wrong?
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Homo Erectus
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Posted - 2003.10.13 23:01:00 -
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supe, go back and take 4th grade english.
you are misreading your own log, you complete f'n idiot.
gm didn't say we were exploiting. in fact, gm said we couldn't have used the bug he found.
could you suck any more at all? is it possible?
btw, you whining for losing to npcs... isn't that far off. |
Supe
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Posted - 2003.10.13 23:04:00 -
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Can somone delete all the evol posts for me this was a warning to other pilots nowhere did i say evol come spam this thread with your bull**** plz.
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sutty
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Posted - 2003.10.13 23:04:00 -
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Edited by: sutty on 13/10/2003 23:05:55
ok plain and simple. where we killed like 5 battleships, there was no problem, this was the spawn point. BUT at the stargate there was a problem, i noticed this when we tryed to make a assualt on the gate in the next system as there was 4 battleships there. I warped to the gate to see 1 RUS battleship I though ok, so moved towards it then 4 popped up I was like argh and warped away, it was totaly not there fault and couldn't be known unless you landed in it like i did :D there was no deliberate use of grids at the GATE. and for the record it was the stain guys who killed the guys at the gate no evol was involved, and that can be seen in the screen shot that zelota posted awhile back.
oh edit- and when the stain guys warped in everyone could see everyone which can also be seen in zelots screenshot.
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HavokTBP
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Posted - 2003.10.13 23:10:00 -
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Edited by: HavokTBP on 13/10/2003 23:11:20
You saying you're no better then an npc? lol
An no I haven't whined about it. When I have, I actually thought it was funny.
But to enlighten you guys.
Exploit:
Take advantage of somebody: to take selfish or unfair advantage of a person or situation, usually for personal gain.
Is this not what went on?
Was there not 2 grids close to the gates center were a fleet was on both sides but an enemy was unaware till it was too late? An didn't a GM say he saw it?
Yeah he also said it can't be used as an exploit. When are Polaris/GM's any smart on battle techniques.
The point is, it was there, it was used. It was an exploit.
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Turtle
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Posted - 2003.10.13 23:11:00 -
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Ya know Homo can't open his mouth without talking down to folks. I suggest you ignore him, he is incapable of a rational discusion.
At at the end of the day who cares. If you think evol is using an exploit then avoid them. If not engage them. Both side will continue to loose ships. Me I'll let them chase me, they are not worth my time. Its fun when 5-10 start chasing you in a blackbird. I love waisting there time.
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Arkaine
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Posted - 2003.10.13 23:12:00 -
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Homo stop smoking all that ****. When did he say they weren't exploiting.
GM Sw00sh > There's no possibility to use this grid problem as an exploit. Stop accusing. This is a bug, and the best thing to do is to cease fire and report it
The highlighted part.
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Swoosh said it was a bug, not an exploit but everyone knows a bug that is abused is an exploit, so um Swoosh was on something too.
GM Sw00sh > There's no possibility to use this grid problem as an exploit. Stop accusing. This is a bug, and the best thing to do is to cease fire and report it
So you're saying that "Stop accusing. This is a bug" is TOP SECRET INTERNAL CCP CODE WORDS for Exploitation?!
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Anyways. He saw the "bug" in quesntion, an Supe was warning people not to fight Evol if this continues to happen.
Smooth ace. Blame it all on Evolution. Funniest part is the Log where they say they only saw 2 people but 7 were involved in the kill: NONE OF THEM ARE EVOLUTION.
Been a long while since i've seen somone who's able to so convincingly lie to themselves about something. Thanks for the chuckle.
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HavokTBP
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Posted - 2003.10.13 23:15:00 -
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Well I personally wasn't there for that battle. I don't know who was involved nor do I care.
I'm in this convo for defence an the facts only.
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Arkaine
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Posted - 2003.10.13 23:18:00 -
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Edited by: Arkaine on 13/10/2003 23:20:11
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Well I personally wasn't there for that battle. I don't know who was involved nor do I care.
I'm in this convo for defence an the facts only.
Well you've made it obvious that what you're NOT here for is defense OF the facts.
The facts are no member of Evolution was actually involved in the factual evidence presented.
You cant ignore factual information when it destroyes your argument, champ.
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HavokTBP
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Posted - 2003.10.13 23:20:00 -
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I wasn't the one that said Evol did it, I said supe said not to fight Evol if this continues to happen..
My defense was an exploit, or... as you guys want to say "abuse of a bug," was used.
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Arkaine
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Posted - 2003.10.13 23:25:00 -
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Oh. so now you're saying that because "I didnt say it, i just repeated it" you shouldnt be a target for my criticism? That's rich.
I dont know what's worse. A spineless moron or a bleating sheep.
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Homo Erectus
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Posted - 2003.10.13 23:25:00 -
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Edited by: Homo Erectus on 13/10/2003 23:27:56
yea turtle, i talk down to complete morons like you, supe, and havok. plz dear jesus god forgive me.
if you don't want to get called an idiot, then don't say retarded crap.
for example, supe, comes on the forums, accuses evol of exploiting, then asks for all the posts from evol to be deleted.
OMF GG. YES, LETS MAKE A THREAD WHERE WE ACCUSE PPL OF EXPLOITING, THEN ANYTHING THEY SAY BACK IS NAUGHTY WRONG AND SHOULD BE DELETED.
and then you have havok here, who can't even read the frickin log that was posted by supe, who wasn't even there, but swears that a grid bug was exploited.
OMF GG. YES, LETS 'DEFEND' OUR SIDE, AND TALK AS IF WE HAVE AN OUNCE OF A CLUE OF WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT, WHEN IN FACT WE WEREN'T EVEN THERE. LETS ALSO SAY THAT ALSO JUST SET ASSIDE THE PART WHERE THE GM SAYS 'COULDNT BE USED TO EXPLOIT'.
vv
[QUOTE]The point is, it was there, it was used. It was an exploit.[/QUOTE]
THEN:
[QUOTE]Well I personally wasn't there for that battle. I don't know who was involved nor do I care.[/QUOTE]
for the love of sweet baby jesus, do you not get it?
so, yea, im a huge cok for calling a spade a spade.
turtle, havok, and supe are complete idiots.
you want to call evol exploiters, or 'warn' that we could be exploiting...
back your mouth.
ps. poxie has revealed himself as a moron too in this thread. ;[ srries poxie, sad but tru |
HavokTBP
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Posted - 2003.10.13 23:34:00 -
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Lol, the only idiot here is you man.
It could have been you're mother exploiting, I don't care, it was still an exploit. I don't know who is all in Evol, an I skipped half that log to find the good parts.
The only one that keeps saying were saying it's you, is you.
Supe could have made a mistake but god damn, why you flipping out?
I mean, lol, your in so much defense that you didn't exploit, then you say it wasn't even you guys in the first place. WTF ARE YOU EVEN HERE FOR?
Go mine some veldspar or something. ****.
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Turtle
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Posted - 2003.10.13 23:41:00 -
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See what I mean, Homo can't open his mouth without a personnel attack. I truely think he may be the most childish person in Eve. Maybe he never got past the 4th grade. All I have to say is take pity on him. He can't help the way he is.
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HavokTBP
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Posted - 2003.10.13 23:42:00 -
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Edited by: HavokTBP on 13/10/2003 23:42:53
Yeah but turtle, he'll just whine something like "well that's a personal attack on me too" an call everyone idiots some more.
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Arkaine
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Posted - 2003.10.13 23:55:00 -
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Edited by: Arkaine on 13/10/2003 23:58:38
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Lol, the only idiot here is you man.
It could have been you're mother exploiting, I don't care, it was still an exploit. I don't know who is all in Evol, an I skipped half that log to find the good parts.
The parts where the GM says that the bug isnt even exploitable?
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The only one that keeps saying were saying it's you, is you.
Really? So according to you I'm saying that you're saying that I'm saying that it's evol that is cheating and not that you're saying that I'm saying that you're saying that it is evol cheating?
Dont think too hard about that last sentence. It's way above you. Just ask yourself why I'd accuse our side of cheating?
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this" Anyways. He saw the "bug" in quesntion, an Supe was warning people not to fight Evol if this continues to happen." and this
Supe could have made a mistake but god damn, why you flipping out?
Dont confuse straightening the facts with flipping out.
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I mean, lol, your in so much defense that you didn't exploit, then you say it wasn't even you guys in the first place. WTF ARE YOU EVEN HERE FOR?
Because you're accusing evol of exploiting, MORON.
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Homo Erectus
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Posted - 2003.10.13 23:55:00 -
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dudez. i love it. the blatant stupidity.
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See what I mean, Homo can't open his mouth without a personnel attack.
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I truely think he may be the most childish person in Eve.
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Maybe he never got past the 4th grade.
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All I have to say is take pity on him.
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He can't help the way he is.
I'm sorry Turtle, I can't tell if you are seriously this dumb, or if you are seriously this good at intentionally being a hypocrit.
Could you specify which one you are?
Complete moron, or complete hypocrit?
and havok, love, for you:
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It could have been you're mother exploiting, I don't care, it was still an exploit.
It may be an exploit, but since it didn't get used, then... ?
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Turtle
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Posted - 2003.10.13 23:57:00 -
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True, but in his case he can't help it. Best just to egnore him like you would little child throwing a temper tantrum.
Of course it was a personnel attack but I really think that is the only thing he understands. Sometimes you have to communicate at the level of the child so they will understand.
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Revolution
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Posted - 2003.10.13 23:58:00 -
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I cant believe sinister lets morons like this represent them in the forums?
what does jiimmy boy or leyla have to say about this?
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Turtle
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Posted - 2003.10.14 00:01:00 -
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Edited by: Turtle on 14/10/2003 00:06:35
Edited by: Turtle on 14/10/2003 00:04:35
Hey Rev who said anything about representing Sinister. CA is alot bigger than Sinister, nor does Sinister represent all of CA. Sinister is an alliance member and we treat them as such. I and as far as I know all respect Sinister and the role that they play in the alliance.
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HavokTBP
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Posted - 2003.10.14 00:46:00 -
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Lol Arkaine as I said before, I was never the person who said Evol did this. Never did I once say Evol did this.
I also said Supe could have made a mistake.
I said an exploit was used, an it was. Because if we did the same thing against who-ever, they would call us exploiters as well.
An you ******* know it so go through yourself.
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Leader of The Black Plague.
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HavokTBP
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Posted - 2003.10.14 00:50:00 -
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Also when I said flip out.....
Talking like
"OMG YOUR A TOTAL MORON YOU WEREN'T EVEN THERE"
I mean, why can't he be calm, I mean attitude like that just proves he done something wrong in the first place. For acting retarded. **** like that, there is no reason for.
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HavokTBP
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Posted - 2003.10.14 00:51:00 -
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Also, if I weren't there, an he weren't there then why does he have a say in anything? Which he says I have no say in?
Lol....
Round an around we go.
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Homo Erectus
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Posted - 2003.10.14 01:14:00 -
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dude. i swear im not worked up.
i use caps all the time.
you might look at yourself though.
you just posted 3 times in a row. |
Arkaine
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Posted - 2003.10.14 02:22:00 -
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No but you support Supe assertion and continue to repeat it and so i'm challening your support.
So if you were not there, how can you know for sure an exploit was even used? Can I 100% know it wasn't used? No, I want there either. What i can do however is actually read the log, and challenge your "factual evidence" from this log. In fact in my opinion, the log makes you guys look alot dumber, if anything, at all.
oh and when you quote me using all caps: check the thread. I dont really see where I mention anything in all caps in refrence to your "like quote" of mine. I have one word in caps, you have
Anything else einstein?
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Posted - 2003.10.14 02:59:00 -
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I was talking about how homo was talking....
An the fact is when Swoosh said "wow I see it now."
That right there proved he found a bug in the location they were fighting in.
Enough Said.
An when I posted 3 in a row, I wasn't finished yet 
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Leader of The Black Plague.
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Arkaine
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Posted - 2003.10.14 04:36:00 -
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You're absolutly right. He found exactly that: a bug. A bug which he explicitly states as non exploitable.
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HavokTBP
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Posted - 2003.10.14 04:40:00 -
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Edited by: HavokTBP on 14/10/2003 04:41:35
Let it be done on you, an see how you react.
A non exploitable bug.... Wouldn't be a problem in the first place.
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Leader of The Black Plague.
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Arkaine
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Posted - 2003.10.14 05:03:00 -
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Dont confuse being done on somone and it happening to somone. Read the log. Took the GM quite some time to find it- and that's AFTER 40 people cried foul. you think we care to go around and find the damn things when we can beat you regardless? Sorry, we have better things to do.
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Supe
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Posted - 2003.10.14 05:21:00 -
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Yes you accidently found it in HLW,VOL,and xx9 so far.
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Rebellion
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Posted - 2003.10.14 05:39:00 -
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I think they hope that other people will read the thread, not bother to read the log that they posted, and take their word at face value.
Much of the bugs that RUS/Sin/m0o have made famous are already fixed or rendered ineffectual.
The real reason for this thread is them sourgraping while making excuses for their refusal to fight us.
This is called poisoning the well: http://www.nizkor.org/features/fallacies/poisoning-the-well.html
You can hide all you want from this point onwards. But we will find you and destroy you.
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Smith
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Posted - 2003.10.14 12:44:00 -
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Okay so lets get this straight. Its okay to engage EVOL if they warp into you. BUT if you warp into EVOL steer clear?
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Rebellion
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Posted - 2003.10.14 13:12:00 -
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No. My understanding is that no one should ever fight us on any terms.
First we will plan a grid exploit to use against you. How we will target while on the other side of the gridline given that targetting across grids is just not possible is a mystery.
Next we will log off to fool people into thinking that there are fewer of us in the system.
And then finally we will CTD our enemies just as combat begins.
The Great Mystery of Modern Science in this is why we would even bother trying to grid and log off when we could just barge in like drunk hobos and CTD everyone.
BEWARE CITIZENS: Fighting with Evolution will give you brain damage and make you stupid.
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DeeCo
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Posted - 2003.10.14 13:25:00 -
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Simple guid into using a grid to your advantage.
Step 1, Ask EVOL, MASS to locate you a grid.
Step 2, fly away from grid so that your ship just disapears.
Step 3, rotate camera drone 180 degrees and zoom out, so that your drone is on the "Other grid"
Step 4, Invisible ship, cant be seen by enemy, but YOU can lock and shoot the other player.
Remember ! This isn't a Exploit, its just a bug, and as such using them is fine, so long as we remember its not an exploit !
GMsw00sh, "wow now i see it" kinda tells me hes never even seen or heard of the grid before, and isn't the best person to decide whether or not it can be used to exploit.
Next how to use ECCM and EN to CTD, as was posted by CCP an advisory not to use them untill further notice, sound very familiar to the old "Sensor booster".
make your own minds up, the only ones doing this are ............. and ...............
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Orestes
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Posted - 2003.10.14 13:28:00 -
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I'm sorry, we can't keep this thread open. It has degenerated into Trolling and a general flame-fest.
Rather then deleting the individual post, I will lock this.
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