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W3370Pi4
Bloodlust Research and Development Inc Imperial Ascension
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Posted - 2011.11.27 14:22:00 -
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W3370Pi4
Bloodlust Research and Development Inc Imperial Ascension
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Posted - 2011.11.30 18:11:00 -
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GreenSeed
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Posted - 2011.11.30 20:24:00 -
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been on it for the last 2 months almost, really fast sales and moderated. i've seens some awesome deals but lack of liquid isk kept me away from picking up the big ones.  |

Macabre Devil
Sonic Industries Combative Industrialists Alliance
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Posted - 2011.12.01 22:18:00 -
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I have been a subscriber for a long time and I approve of this service. |

Zions Child
Odyssey Inc SpaceMonkey's Alliance
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Posted - 2011.12.01 22:23:00 -
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Recently subscribed (On a trading alt). Good deals, well kept. +1 for buying in bulk. |

Itoliog
Derelict Angels Anuran Origin
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Posted - 2011.12.01 23:19:00 -
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Great mailing list with plenty of great products and people.
Highly recommended. +1
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Torncuff Lookout
ldiocracy RED.Legion
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Posted - 2011.12.02 01:25:00 -
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Highly recommend....great service! |

TheSmokingHertog
Black Hole INC
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Posted - 2011.12.02 05:43:00 -
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Great list, good service. Nice for building new relations within EVE. |

enterprisePSI
Unimatrix 0.1
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Posted - 2011.12.02 06:51:00 -
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I approve of this product and/or service. The tears of the many, outweight the tears of the few. Or the one.
-«enterprise-psi |

Hastelloy
United Eve Directorate ACE WRECKING COMPANY
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Posted - 2011.12.03 01:02:00 -
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Great Mailing List. |

Maxpie
Metaphysical Utopian Society Explorations
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Posted - 2011.12.03 11:29:00 -
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I've been on this list for a while now. It's great. All traders should be on it. |

Brock Nelson
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Posted - 2011.12.04 02:09:00 -
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Why the new rule? |

W3370Pi4
Bloodlust Research and Development Inc Imperial Ascension
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Posted - 2011.12.04 02:33:00 -
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The new Temporary rules is simply there because people use the mailing list to dumb their overprice stuff and the concerned the items they sell are already cheaper on the market.
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Daddy's Princess
The Player Haters Corp
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Posted - 2011.12.04 03:39:00 -
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Was a good move temporarily suspending the new items. It was a bit annoying seeing those mails.
Also, a suggestion. Maybe look into doing something about the "oh look here, I'm selling these items at the exact same price as jita sell orders, hohoho" mails.
Those are annoying as hell to see and were the reason I unsubscribed for a long time. Now I'm back on there and still seeing those.
Having said that, it's a good resource overall. |

Zendon Taredi
Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2011.12.05 10:42:00 -
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I approve of this mailing list. |

Fred Barbossa
Free Mineral Collective
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Posted - 2011.12.05 11:28:00 -
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I'm really looking forward to the channel being used again post spam. I use to buy stuff off this list all the time. If your not jita based you can turn a quick profit everytime someone make a mistake and needs to dump stock. |

Shar Tegral
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Posted - 2011.12.09 11:54:00 -
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Bump because the forums don't let you link to itself. |

Dream Five
Renegade Pleasure Androids Pleasure Syndicate
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Posted - 2011.12.13 21:31:00 -
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it works. I was able to sell stuff in large quantities and save time that i would have spent retailing :) |

W3370Pi4
Bloodlust Research and Development Inc Imperial Ascension
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Posted - 2011.12.19 10:04:00 -
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 ________________________________________ GåÆGÿà Join the "Legit Trading" Channel - http://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/Legit_Trading GåÉGÿà |

W3370Pi4
Bloodlust Research and Development Inc Imperial Ascension
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Posted - 2012.01.11 10:06:00 -
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 ________________________________________ GåÆGÿà Join the "Legit Trading" Channel - http://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/Legit_Trading GåÉGÿà |

Lucinda Hamu
Hedion University Amarr Empire
10
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Posted - 2012.01.12 08:11:00 -
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I've been impressed with the list. Seen a few huge bargains. |

Severian Autarch
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
0
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Posted - 2012.01.14 19:31:00 -
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Is this in-game? How do I subscribe?
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Steve Ronuken
Fuzzwork Enterprises
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Posted - 2012.01.14 19:54:00 -
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Severian Autarch wrote:Is this in-game? How do I subscribe?
It's in game. Just go to the in game mail client, and use the 'add mailing list button', then filling in 'bulk trade' FuzzWork Enterprises http://www.fuzzwork.co.uk/ Blueprint calculator and other 'useful' utilities. |

Severian Autarch
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
1
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Posted - 2012.01.16 21:51:00 -
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Thank you! |

W3370Pi4
Bloodlust Research and Development Inc Imperial Ascension
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Posted - 2012.01.17 09:41:00 -
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I have now created a tutorial to allow people to join the mailing list on their own http://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/Bulk_Trade_%28Mailing_list%29#How_to_Join_The_bulk_Trade_Mailing_List
thanks Steve Ronuken for helping Severian Autarch ________________________________________ GåÆGÿà Join the "Legit Trading" Channel - http://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/Legit_Trading GåÉGÿà |

Kagan Storm
Silver Snake Enterprise Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2012.01.21 12:08:00 -
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Good:
i sell my stuff almost emedeatly
Easy read i realy dont have to browse 300 crappy forum post. People make simple adds. WtB WtS... its realy easy on the eyes
Bad: 1. I sometimes make an add and then at one point i notice i have more stuff to add so i kinda feal like i should not spam another mail but wait an hour or 2. The border between spaming your adds and acting like a pro and postin something like a public advert is rather wierd. The mailing list lacks definition in that sense. Is it an almost like a stock exchange where i put my add up and somebody picks it up but extreamly serious place where only big boys play in trilions.
2. A lot of i like to call them ambulance chasers. If i wrote "WTS my corps 1000 units price 1.23 isk per corps location in Polaris. No transport" it means you do not mail me wiht "can you bring your price down" or "can you move them" I kinda figured from the start if location is listed that there is no transport and if you do not write "negotiable" that the price is NON negotiable. But i gues that i just me. Also those same ambulance chaser have rather wirde way of communicating...
3. "Sold." Basically multiplys spam. and mail blinking. But does nothing. But it is extramly important so you dont get mails 48 hours after you sold something. I have no way of making the mailing list without "Sold" and still make it functional
Ideas:
Mailing list, people in it, and everything connected to it should function like this in my opinion:
I post a mail. you private mail me to make you a contract or that im talking 2 blocks or can i get half a block since maybe you are a weirdo that sells blocks of 1000 cap guns. i post mail that is sold.
1. For this to work standard titles need to be intorduced.
For that Titles need to be normal and some ruling about them should be listed. Title should have 2 parts: what and waht item written in a standard menaing
"WTS"/"WTB"/"SOLD" : "Item"
No !"#$%&//()=?*+'- ONLY ":" and "," for separation of what and separation of items in what items and none of those "re: re: RE:"
Proper Example:
"WTS: Playboys"
"SOLD:Playboys"
Example of stuff that iritates me with titles that just makes everithing look ******** and demenas the mailing list: (Actuall examples of mail titles)
Re: Re: WTS Scourge Fury Heavy T2 Modules (has only 3 not like 60 different types) WTB T2 Frigates (Harpy) (why didnt you just wrote WTB Harpy we know you are buying more then 1 and we all know what a Harpy is Even if we dont it takes us 6 seconds to find out since you are gonna link it in the mail)
I dont think this needs to be regulated allot by any rules or threath of ban... but more like a guide how to make it look more nice and the nicer it looks the better it will work.
2. The mailing list has to benefit me more then actually making a market sell order or just /jitabuy all i need. But in doing that you are in a direct conflict with the market. most of the people on it dont have problem selling their goods... they are just avoiding the broker. Like me So people should be explained that unless they are selling some really weird stuff you cant just /buy on market like
1000 battleships 10 tril trit 10 mill faction missiles and so forth
they should sell stuff at lover then market avarage or atleast lover then sell orders cause if you are looking for a market price and you are not offering somebody the service of "piling orders in whole region to only 1 station" i dont see purpose of it.
: This is just a random tought form me that came to my mind a couple of times.
If its purpose is avoiding tax spam of orders should be encouraged If its purpose is piling order service so you dont have to redock 50 times or setup a buy order and wait why i see only t2 some cap bpcs and so forth.... where are the trit and t1 ships? For each order made to mailing list there is 1 order less on market in a trade hub. since there is 1250 people on the mailing list the impact on the rest is rather substantial Why are there no Piling WTB orders? My ego is the the size of my carriers jump range. |

W3370Pi4
Bloodlust Research and Development Inc Imperial Ascension
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Posted - 2012.01.21 12:29:00 -
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Thank you for your feedback kagan i've always found the lack of WTB mails suspicious aswell but i have no immediate answer for that at the moment for me the short answer would be that the people who WTB are lazy and wait on the people who WTS to advertise and buy it when they get the occasion
also i dont know how long you have been using the mailing list but a lot improved ever since i introduced this part on the evelopedia page it was just a general mess before : http://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/Bulk_Trade_(Mailing_list)#How_to_write_a_mail_for_the_mailing_list
i will see what i can do concerning the mail subjects because i have found them a bit stupid overtime and they need a template in order to improve efficiency. i think i will ask people to put if they are up for negotiations in the mail subject as well.
The mailing list is growing everyday and by consequence this means that more mails are sent , people should always be careful when it comes to send a mail on the mailing list and make their inventory beforehand .
Your #3 argument concerning the sold mail is mainly in order for the Mail Posters because if they dont post that their goods are sold they will get mails even sometimes 2 weeks afterwards and it can be annoying to either have to reply to all of the mails or even from the other hand sending a mail and never receive an answer.
I have no answer for stupid people who dont take the time to read the mails properly even if i made an effort . the effects of a new regulation would take at least 2 month to be used widely and it would require me to enforce it for this amount of time at least because even to this day some people dont understand that they need to read the rules properly , a small percentage still but it happens.
I will think about instating new rules but i need more feedback because one opinion has to be heard but doesnt forcibly tells you what the other 1500 are thinking
Regards W. ________________________________________ GåÆGÿà Join the "Legit Trading" Channel - http://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/Legit_Trading GåÉGÿà |

TheSmokingHertog
Black Hole INC
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Posted - 2012.01.22 01:31:00 -
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Kagan Storm wrote:Good:
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"WTS"/"WTB"/"SOLD" : "Item"
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Proper Example:
"WTS: Playboys"
"SOLD:Playboys"
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Why are there no Piling WTB orders?
The first is something I would support fully, the SOLD post would make it obvious that you can disregard older mails with that product from said provider.
As a guess for why the WTB is not filling up, I would suggest that most marketeers have build a network with providers around them. Taking myself as example: a lot of products I sell, lay in stock at jita and can be ordered at will from my supplier-network. Thinking JIT this can be done at depleting stocks or up-going markets (mostly those 2 occur at the same time, or just after each-other). Hereby I assume that other marketeers, corporations and alliances have arranged the same supply structure. Our producers will have continues buy orders on the trade hubs, so wont have problems receiving the goods necessary for production. So suppliers and marketeers wont use WTB, and the bigger buyers just order when needed within their network. This way a WTB order will only be set for orders not provided by the network of said persons or actors, so the number of those orders will be far lower as WTS orders. WTS orders can be overproduction, random production, dumping, speculation and more, so will have more change to end up at the here discussed list.
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Steve Ronuken
Fuzzwork Enterprises
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Posted - 2012.01.23 20:27:00 -
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Works well for me, both for selling the stuff I make, and for buying the stuff I then resell.
Orders go quickly, so you have to keep on top of it. FuzzWork Enterprises http://www.fuzzwork.co.uk/ Blueprint calculator and other 'useful' utilities. |

Grayclay
The Arrow Project CORE.
11
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Posted - 2012.01.23 20:51:00 -
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Only thing I'd like is to have one standardized posting method, at least for titles, so its a little more organized, but i get thats kind of a pipedream. |

WhisperSilk
Midnight Elites Echelon Rising
0
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Posted - 2012.01.23 20:57:00 -
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Its Awesome!!!!!!!
No where else in eve can I make a sale in less than 2 minutes(first post to, sold post) flat! I would have to babysit orders all day to move the bulk I do in this mailing list.
My only constuctive feedback, would be a little stricter enforcement of some of the rules.(i.e linking the item in the mail)
the last poster (kyraziel drakonis) infact just has a price, and location. no bulk amount offer, or lot amounts.
Just a little more conformity, and its perfect. |

W3370Pi4
Bloodlust Research and Development Inc Imperial Ascension
74
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Posted - 2012.01.23 21:16:00 -
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thank you for your feedback i already notified him and he will pay attention in the future ________________________________________ GåÆGÿà Join the "Legit Trading" Channel - http://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/Legit_Trading GåÉGÿà |

W3370Pi4
Bloodlust Research and Development Inc Imperial Ascension
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Posted - 2012.01.23 21:17:00 -
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Grayclay wrote:Only thing I'd like is to have one standardized posting method, at least for titles, so its a little more organized, but i get thats kind of a pipedream.
this issue will be looked into shortly ________________________________________ GåÆGÿà Join the "Legit Trading" Channel - http://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/Legit_Trading GåÉGÿà |

Peonza Chan
FW Scuad E C L I P S E
0
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Posted - 2012.01.23 21:29:00 -
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TheSmokingHertog wrote:Kagan Storm wrote:Good:
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"WTS"/"WTB"/"SOLD" : "Item"
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Proper Example:
"WTS: Playboys"
"SOLD:Playboys"
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Why are there no Piling WTB orders?
The first is something I would support fully, the SOLD post would make it obvious that you can disregard older mails with that product from said provider. +1
Kagan Storm wrote: As a guess for why the WTB is not filling up, I would suggest that most marketeers have build a network with providers around them. Taking myself as example: a lot of products I sell, lay in stock at jita and can be ordered at will from my supplier-network. Thinking JIT, this can be done at depleting stocks or up-going markets (mostly those 2 occur at the same time, or just after each-other). Hereby I assume that other marketeers, corporations and alliances have arranged the same supply structure. Our producers will have continues buy orders on the trade hubs, so wont have problems receiving the goods necessary for production. So suppliers and marketeers wont use WTB, and the bigger buyers just order when needed within their network. This way a WTB order will only be set for orders not provided by the network of said persons or actors, so the number of those orders will be far lower as WTS orders. WTS orders can be overproduction, random production, dumping, speculation and more, so will have more chance to end up at the here discussed list.
Maybe it's your case cause you already have a supplier network, for me it's most a matter of time, if I post, for example:
[WTB 10 x Random t2 ship at X/u ] or [WTB 500 x Random t2 module at Y/u]
then the constructors interested will start to try to fill order, and it takes time, and maybe when the time the provider has finished all items can occur 2 thinks: - Someone has already filled the order, so the provider will need to start a WTS mail - The market price has already changed, so the buyer can incur to loses
The solution to this can be something like this: someone says [WTB 500 x Item_A at X/u], then the interested providers can mail/convo him to say something like: "I can provide it in 2 weeks", and the price can be re-negotiated depending on the time required to fulfill the order. At the moment marketeer and provider came to an agreement then the provider can send another mail to list with [BOUGHT: 500 Item_A].
Sorry for the spelling mistakes I have probably committed. |

W3370Pi4
Bloodlust Research and Development Inc Imperial Ascension
74
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Posted - 2012.01.23 21:33:00 -
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Quote:From: P********** Sent: 2012.01.23 21:31 To: W3370Pi4,
Hey, This list is great. Thank you for policing it and banning folks that don't play by the rules. It's great to have a place where real traders can do wholesale pricing and communicate. We have 3 regular buyer for our goods, and a number of suppliers that we communicate with regularly, all but a couple of them we got through this list.
Great job. Thank you ________________________________________ GåÆGÿà Join the "Legit Trading" Channel - http://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/Legit_Trading GåÉGÿà |

Esame Motsu
Perkone Caldari State
2
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Posted - 2012.01.23 22:16:00 -
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Truely is an awesome service. YES it is REALLY moderated and there is no spam. Thank you so much for the time and effort you put in to make this such a great mailing list!
If you have not experienced bulk buying/selling, save up and make some purchases. It will evolve how you play eve. |

Syrk
Project Cerberus
7
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Posted - 2012.01.23 23:07:00 -
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Agree with all suggestions above. |

Torncuff Lookout
ldiocracy RED.Legion
14
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Posted - 2012.01.24 01:09:00 -
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Great service....has helped me tremendously.
I agree with the "WTS/WTB/SOLD/FILLED" standardization proposed earlier in headers.
It's certainly not too hard.
Market manipulators who get caught playing games in your mailing list should get immediate death penalty.
That is all
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Daddy's Princess
The Player Haters Corp
2
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Posted - 2012.01.24 02:43:00 -
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Nice to see swift bans for market manipulations.
Plenty of good deals pop up on there but I would suggest putting some emphasis on educating people what is bulk/wholesale. It annoys the **** out of me when someone advertised "mah 50 ships for 125m p/u" while jita sell prices is 126m. Or similar.
Just wasting time reading that dribble and clogging up the mailbox.
Also, I never try to bring peoples price down when buying. Either the price is agreeable and contact is made, or it is not and the mail is deleted. Having said that, every time I've put something up for sale with a different toon, for reasonable prices, I get douchebags wanting to convo and offer less. Really can't be bothered with that rubbish but and am unsure how that can be fixed. Or if it even needs to. Maybe I'm just a lone weirdo in this case.
It's a great list, just pointing out a few minor annoyances. |

Maxpie
Metaphysical Utopian Society Explorations
43
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Posted - 2012.01.24 02:57:00 -
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Bulk Trade is awesome. A must for any trader. |

Wille Sanara
Felador night Corp
3
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Posted - 2012.01.24 10:17:00 -
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We still need mroe subscribers in order to have more offers join now! |

Xintri Ra'Virr
Six Kin Mining and Development Group
9
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Posted - 2012.01.24 19:40:00 -
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Very handfull for a Trader. Good opportunities to buy / sell large stocks of items fast. Quick prices check in all regions / hubs. |

Shar Tegral
80
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Posted - 2012.01.24 23:50:00 -
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Daddy's Princess wrote:Having said that, every time I've put something up for sale with a different toon, for reasonable prices, I get douchebags wanting to convo and offer less. Really can't be bothered with that rubbish but and am unsure how that can be fixed. Or if it even needs to. Maybe I'm just a lone weirdo in this case. You are not alone. I've even had a few try to badger me into lower prices - I just set them to ignore and go about my life. Now, I state upfront that my prices are not negotiable and I set ignore on anyone who can't, or won't, read.
Daddy's Princess wrote:It's a great list, just pointing out a few minor annoyances. Great list.
Constant weeding out of bad elements.
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clamslayer
Aliastra Gallente Federation
22
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Posted - 2012.01.25 09:14:00 -
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meh |

enterprisePSI
Unimatrix 0.1
67
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Posted - 2012.01.25 10:41:00 -
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the 'owner' constantly watches for scams and stuff. Excellent service. The tears of the many, outweight the tears of the few. Or the one.
-«enterprise-psi |

SgtGoodEnd
Aliastra Gallente Federation
0
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Posted - 2012.01.25 20:40:00 -
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Great mailing list.
Enforcing the rules is not been easy, however W337 is doing a fantastic job, props to him.
Is there a way to block someone from sending me the mailing list? I ask this cause as I mentioned above it is very hard to keep track of the ones not following the rules, if someone is trying to trick me I would like to block him, even if he receives a warning, to me if you try to cheat me once you are done...
A few minutes ago we all received a mail (not going into details, we all got it) with Jita's price, this would be a candidate to block, do not want to trade whit such person. |

Shar Tegral
80
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Posted - 2012.01.25 21:18:00 -
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SgtGoodEnd wrote:A few minutes ago we all received a mail (not going into details, we all got it) with Jita's price, this would be a candidate to block, do not want to trade whit such person. That's your choice. It is, however, not against the rules.
People can set their own prices. |

SgtGoodEnd
Aliastra Gallente Federation
0
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Posted - 2012.01.26 00:04:00 -
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Shar Tegral wrote:That's your choice. It is, however, not against the rules. People can set their own prices.
I have no problem with that whatsoever, have no idea where you got that from my post, however if I lead you to that interpretation I apologize, that is not what I requested help with...
Just wanted to know if there is a possibility to block people in the mailing list !?
Best regards. |

Shar Tegral
80
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Posted - 2012.01.26 02:31:00 -
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SgtGoodEnd wrote:Just wanted to know if there is a possibility to block people in the mailing list !? If you block a person, it should prevent you from seeing any message (of any kind) from them. I know as I block insistent low ballers on my offers.
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W3370Pi4
Bloodlust Research and Development Inc Imperial Ascension
75
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Posted - 2012.01.26 19:21:00 -
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Please make sure you mail me if you notice that somebody is trying to take advantage of you or is just being a general annoyance to the other subscribers. ________________________________________ GåÆGÿà Join the "Legit Trading" Channel - http://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/Legit_Trading GåÉGÿà |

Creator Alli
Cambridge Boating Club
0
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Posted - 2012.01.26 20:54:00 -
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Great service, don't need to wait for my sell orders to go, everything is usuallly gone within a minute! |

W3370Pi4
Bloodlust Research and Development Inc Imperial Ascension
75
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Posted - 2012.01.29 10:49:00 -
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Thanks for all the feedback ________________________________________ GåÆGÿà Join the "Legit Trading" Channel - http://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/Legit_Trading GåÉGÿà |

W3370Pi4
Bloodlust Research and Development Inc Imperial Ascension
75
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Posted - 2012.01.31 12:29:00 -
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The new rules concerning mail's subject instaured
http://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/Bulk_Trade_%28Mailing_list%29#How_to_write_a_mail_for_the_mailing_list ________________________________________ GåÆGÿà Join the "Legit Trading" Channel - http://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/Legit_Trading GåÉGÿà |

Jacob Lyon Chieve
Sanguis Mortem Industrial
1
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Posted - 2012.01.31 17:57:00 -
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I read the Wiki page and I still have one question:
Are minerals (en masse) allowed to be listed? If so, is there a minimum m-¦ or quantity?
I understand this is a trade channel intended for produced product, but the minerals are where everything starts! |

W3370Pi4
Bloodlust Research and Development Inc Imperial Ascension
75
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Posted - 2012.02.01 06:18:00 -
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minerals are allowed ________________________________________ GåÆGÿà Join the "Legit Trading" Channel - http://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/Legit_Trading GåÉGÿà |

W3370Pi4
Bloodlust Research and Development Inc
75
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Posted - 2012.02.29 06:34:00 -
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So many deals not enough people to buy them :'( ________________________________________ GåÆGÿà Join the "Legit Trading" Channel - http://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/Legit_Trading GåÉGÿà |

D00M RIDER
Gravit Negotii Daycare
0
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Posted - 2012.02.29 16:50:00 -
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Joined this mailing list a couple of days ago, found some really nice offers on there.
Well worth checking out.... |

Tumahub
EVE Protection Agency Intrepid Crossing
0
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Posted - 2012.03.07 20:03:00 -
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Im looking into getting into trade with my alt. Is there anyone here that coukd take me under there wing and show me the ropes?i know that is alot! To ask for.. but if your interested please send me an in game mail |

David Forge
Forge Enterprises
90
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Posted - 2012.03.07 23:52:00 -
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Tumahub wrote:Im looking into getting into trade with my alt. Is there anyone here that coukd take me under there wing and show me the ropes?i know that is alot! To ask for.. but if your interested please send me an in game mail
You should consider joining the ingame chat channel "SCC-Lounge". There's usually a few helpful and knowledgeable people floating around.
And, since I'm here, the Bulk Trade Mailing List is the shizzle (scientific term). |

Maeste Madeveda
The Spawning Pool Team Liquid
4
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Posted - 2012.03.14 13:34:00 -
[60] - Quote
I'm looking for this guy selling his Tengu Subsystem BPC. I deleted his mail accidentally so it would be nice if someone could point me his way.
Otherwise, a nice bump for a very good mailing list. |

TheSmokingHertog
Black Hole INC
20
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Posted - 2012.03.14 15:01:00 -
[61] - Quote
Maeste Madeveda wrote:I'm looking for this guy selling his Tengu Subsystem BPC. I deleted his mail accidentally so it would be nice if someone could point me his way.
Otherwise, a nice bump for a very good mailing list.
> Tonsof Gun <
Quote:Once again to tempt you with my wares...
For sale i have the following 20-run BPC's:
Tengu Defensive - Warfare Processor Blueprint x 31
Tengu Defensive - Supplemental Screening Blueprint x 21
Tengu Defensive - Adaptive Shielding Blueprint x 15
My lowest price offer, these will cost you LESS than the price to reverse engineer them yourselves! Plus you're avoiding the risk of a failed attempt.
30 mil p/u - it's a deal, it's a steal, it's sale of the f@*&ing century. Massive profits to be made for someone with the skills and balls.
Minimum buy quantity is 5 BPC's, I'll give a discount for larger purchases - mail me with your offers. BPCs located near Jita, can be moved to Jita if needed.
Thanks,
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Maeste Madeveda
The Spawning Pool Team Liquid
6
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Posted - 2012.03.14 19:11:00 -
[62] - Quote
Many thanks sir. |

W3370Pi4
Bloodlust Research and Development Inc
75
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Posted - 2012.03.26 21:51:00 -
[63] - Quote
Why bother with sell orders ? ________________________________________ GåÆGÿà Join the "Legit Trading" Channel - http://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/Legit_Trading GåÉGÿà |

Steve Ronuken
Fuzzwork Enterprises
332
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Posted - 2012.03.31 21:50:00 -
[64] - Quote
Bump, for great justice!
Great service, plenty of activity on the list, with a minimal, but effective, ruleset. FuzzWork Enterprises http://www.fuzzwork.co.uk/
Blueprint calculator and other 'useful' utilities. |

Amseln deBrabant
Ochsenbruegger
3
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Posted - 2012.04.13 16:04:00 -
[65] - Quote
great serv ice use it much! |

Barakach
R-ISK Shadow Operations.
43
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Posted - 2012.04.13 16:18:00 -
[66] - Quote
Bad first: Quite a few of the items I have been seeing are barely below the regional averages when the item is coming down off a 2-3month high which was originally caused by a HUGE spike.
Several of the few items I did purchase were more stable in price and volume, yet when I purchased them, suddenly the entire market was flooded and the prices dropped after a 6+ month stable period. They'll eventually sell once the market stabilizes from the sudden dump, not to mention mineral prices going sky high. The good side of this is I'm buying up some extra while the prices are low.
Meh, free market
The Good: I have seen many more items listed that were quite good deals and getting bulk is really nice for traders who want to play the averages. Nothing more annoying that placing a buy order and getting it partially filled and having to place several sell orders for the same item. I would rather have one large sell order.
Overall: Great service |

Pantheon Lea
Farmer Boyz
2
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Posted - 2012.04.14 10:21:00 -
[67] - Quote
My thoughts:
The plus: This is the largest list, a place that cant be ignored.
The basic: It's just a mailing list, when issues arise, the place is floating nonsense, no moderation, just afterwards banning.
The bad: It's regulated beyond official rules, you may not **** others off with your offers, if your price is to high, you get banned, if your therms are to bad, you risk banning or chaos, if someone manipulates the market afterwards, you risk getting banned.
I use the list to purchase, because of the above i sell my stuff somewhere else.
My wishes would be that the list rules did not regulate the content of the offers, but only the usage of the list, i'm sure professional traders can separate the good deals from the bad.
My problem is that i trade in bulk, so if i have 25.000 rifters in stock, they will be sold for a premium price compared to the market, simply because the market do not supply more than a few thousand rifters...
However i don't expect the traders to purchase them, but someone might actually need them for other reasons than to resell them...
Bulk Trade, don't forget the Bulk in the name.... |

W3370Pi4
Bloodlust Research and Development Inc
81
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Posted - 2012.04.30 21:03:00 -
[68] - Quote
Get up to speed 500 mails per month ________________________________________ GåÆGÿà Join the "Legit Trading" Channel - http://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/Legit_Trading GåÉGÿà |

miss eve2006
Viziam Amarr Empire
4
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Posted - 2012.05.26 12:19:00 -
[69] - Quote
Can anyone tell me why i got banned from the list?, seems i followed every rule on the wiki page. |

icy ghost
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
0
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Posted - 2012.05.26 17:23:00 -
[70] - Quote
miss eve2006 wrote:Can anyone tell me why i got banned from the list?, seems i followed every rule on the wiki page.
i got banned as well not sure why either, maybe should mail the people who get banned why. |

W3370Pi4
Comel Technology
81
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Posted - 2012.05.28 15:06:00 -
[71] - Quote
i answered to your mails both ________________________________________ GåÆGÿà Join the "Legit Trading" Channel - http://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/Legit_Trading GåÉGÿà |

samuel09
Caldari Industrial Initiatives
0
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Posted - 2012.05.28 18:17:00 -
[72] - Quote
Just got banned :( not sure why |

W3370Pi4
Comel Technology
81
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Posted - 2012.05.28 21:13:00 -
[73] - Quote
samuel09 wrote:Just got banned :( not sure why
i answered your mail not even 6 minutes after you sent it .............. ________________________________________ GåÆGÿà Join the "Legit Trading" Channel - http://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/Legit_Trading GåÉGÿà |

samuel09
Caldari Industrial Initiatives
0
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Posted - 2012.05.28 21:37:00 -
[74] - Quote
lol 50mil unbanning fee pass
"Regardless of quantity you must offer a bulk buyout price for your items to give the opportunity to buy your whole stock. " |

Mike'P
Kansas City Industrial One Stop Research
5
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Posted - 2012.06.09 23:32:00 -
[75] - Quote
Hi guys,
Amusingly, I got banned here as well. I relay this information only to inform other casual players.
I'd not previously paid much attention to this list as already working in the Legit Trade channel, I thought 'bulk' was to do with very large quantities of stuff and I wasn't in that league.
But when I read that 'bulk' was 5+, well I had a couple of station cans of BPCs that met the criteria. So I joined up, lurked on the list for a few days to see the form, and then followed with a couple of posts putting my unloved BPCs out there. One got a lot of interest, the other got zip.
Then today, finding out I wasn't in the club anymore, my fee for finding out why I got banned is apparently 75m - so obviously something in my two messages was veeeery verrrry bad.
Full marks to W3370Pi4 fpr policing, but zero marks for communication. Fortunately for me, I actually can quite happily not ever use this list again.
"if you pay the fine i will tell you why you were banned"
Sorry mate, not interested.
Here's my two mails: I only include the info in case anyone else thinks they might send similar missives into the Bulk Trade universe and get similar dismissive bannage. I can only assume my crime was not offering a 'per unit' price for the coercer BPCs in message number 2, but none of the responses to my first message asked me about per-unit pricing because - DOH - it''s the BULK TRADE mailing list.....
It's a funny old Eve-i-verse.
WTS; Buzzard BPC x 15 From: Mike'P Sent: 2012.06.01 14:37 To: Bulk Trade,
1 Run, ME -4 PE -4 Buzzard Blueprints
Location: Amarr
Pricing:
< 5 - 5m ISK each 5 - 10 - 4.7m ISK each 10 - 15 - 4.5m ISK each
Thanks for your attention!
Mike'P
WTS: Coercer BPC x 12 ME50 PE20 From: Mike'P Sent: 2012.06.03 17:08 To: Bulk Trade,
As it says in the title,
11 mill the lot
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Drachiel
Mercury LLC
10
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Posted - 2012.06.12 15:40:00 -
[76] - Quote
I too can speak to the above.
I was banned despite following all rules and the mailing list owner refused to point out any specific violation.
He even (LMAO) claimed that it isn't "My responsibility to know what rule you violated." Umm. Doesn't he do the banning? Isn't that part of the job? After pointing that out he hiked my unbanning fee to 75 mil. He's cashing in people. He's banning for nothing and then extorting cash to keep using the list. Very EVE-like, but annoying. I propose that we the community create an alternative bulk trade mailing list with simpler rules and less corrupt administration. At the very least though this list IS very, very useful for builders and sellers. I personally will be devoting one of my character slots to recycling alts through his list in order to keep selling. The extra income from speedy bulk sales is worth a character slot to me.
Know that no amount of attention you pay to the rules will save you from a ban. Once you post a few big sell or buy orders you are viewed as a "cow," and he will ban you then try to get his 50+ mil. To this day he refuses both my and others' requests to get specific reasons for bans. If you do use this list for serious business be aware that you should devote a character slot to biomass cycle characters for it.
10/10 usefulness, -2/10 administration.
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W3370Pi4
Comel Technology
81
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Posted - 2012.06.13 14:44:00 -
[77] - Quote
rabble rabble rabble " out of context quoting" ect ect http://static.someecards.com/someecards/usercards/1336006271747_5813683.png ________________________________________ GåÆGÿà Join the "Legit Trading" Channel - http://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/Legit_Trading GåÉGÿà |

Daniel Plain
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
181
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Posted - 2012.06.13 15:14:00 -
[78] - Quote
is selling empire LP allowed? |

W3370Pi4
Comel Technology
81
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Posted - 2012.06.13 19:40:00 -
[79] - Quote
unfortunately no however selling faction items in quantities greater or equal to 5 units is allowed ________________________________________ GåÆGÿà Join the "Legit Trading" Channel - http://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/Legit_Trading GåÉGÿà |

Drachiel
Mercury LLC
10
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Posted - 2012.06.14 01:50:00 -
[80] - Quote
W3370Pi4 wrote: so yeah i don't really care if you don't like my "pay up or stay out " administrating scheme because it is very effective and is really helping to keep a standard on the mailing list because words gets out and people know how to behave.
Very effective I'm sure. It must be easy and reliable profit.
W3370Pi4 wrote: " it isn't my responsibility to know why you were banned" is just a poor choice of words from me ( i apologize for that ) i do know why you were banned what i should have said and will say in the future is " i will only tell you if you pay up"
Saving face in the thread. After that you sent me a CC'ed mail that had like 6 other people on it or something? It didn't even have anything to do with one of my mails (which I double checked against the wiki page -- no violations). I'd been sending mails for months before, some of which were slightly less correct than the one I was banned for (but still more correct than the average mail).
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Daniel Plain
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
182
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Posted - 2012.06.14 05:55:00 -
[81] - Quote
W3370Pi4 wrote:unfortunately no however selling faction items in quantities greater or equal to 5 units is allowed how about "WTS any implant from corp X LP store up to Y total LP cost, min stack size 5" ? |
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