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Salusa VC TunDraGon	Posted - 2006.08.26 13:10:00 - [1] Edited by: Salusa VC on 26/08/2006 13:13:03 Here is one for all the scientists and conspiracists. Linky IMO, I dont see how it could be possible, but what is just as interesting is peoples reactions to it.
Talori'i Gallente University of Caille	Posted - 2006.08.26 13:13:00 - [2] Edited by: Talori''i on 26/08/2006 13:13:53 Unlimited Energy? I don't know anything about that... but I got a bridge in Brooklyn I will sell you. Homer: Lisa in this house we obey the laws of thermodynamics! 4 8 15 16 23 42
Dark Shikari Caldari Imperium Technologies Firmus Ixion	Posted - 2006.08.26 13:44:00 - [3] Old news. As in, 500 years old. No, it doesn't happen --[23] Member-- Originally by: DB Preacher The only time BoB's backs are to the wall is when Backdoor Bandit is in local.
Verus Potestas Caldari Fiat Mort	Posted - 2006.08.26 14:03:00 - [4] Well, Steorn, the company involved seems to be a one-trick pony. This is their one contribution to the scientific world, and it breaks the laws of physics. Hell of an entry act if you ask me They also claim that they are as confused as everyone else when it comes how in hell it works. Can't say I'm buying it. Still, it would be interesting to see if they go through their plan of getting well reputed scientists involved to back it up, and how that one turns up. Of course, most scientists won't touch anything tagged as perpetual motion with a bargepole, so we'll see.
Baldour Ngarr Artemis Rising	Posted - 2006.08.26 15:14:00 - [5] Originally by: Verus Potestas Of course, most scientists won't touch anything tagged as perpetual motion with a bargepole, so we'll see. Probably not, in this case; we already know everything there is to know about how magnets interact with each other, and we KNOW this doesn't happen. ________________________________________________ "I tried strip mining, but I lost, and it's cold flying around in space naked."
Nir	Posted - 2006.08.26 15:25:00 - [6] I don't buy it either but, hey.. big hoaxes have made people very rich in the past so their motives are pretty clear to me.
Talori'i Gallente University of Caille	Posted - 2006.08.26 15:27:00 - [7] Quote: we already know everything there is to know about how magnets interact with each other We will never know everything there is. We think we know everything there is to know about magnets, but the thing is we have discovered strange stuff before, take it when we super cool some things to get them close to 0 degrees Kelvin. Strange stuff happens, superconductivity and various other things. And there is always someone who comes along and finds a original twist on some idea. Lots of things in life come about because we were looking for something else and end up finding something new. This "unlimited energy" thing though, its probably 99.9% bunk though. 4 8 15 16 23 42
Verus Potestas Caldari Fiat Mort	Posted - 2006.08.26 15:28:00 - [8] Originally by: Nir I don't buy it either but, hey.. big hoaxes have made people very rich in the past so their motives are pretty clear to me. They have actively refused any investment, sale of licensing of their technology until it has been publicly verified by scientists. Whatever their plan is, I don't think it's profit.
Dark Shikari Caldari Imperium Technologies Firmus Ixion	Posted - 2006.08.26 15:34:00 - [9] Originally by: Verus Potestas Whatever their plan is, I don't think it's profit. Attention whoring? --[23] Member-- Originally by: DB Preacher The only time BoB's backs are to the wall is when Backdoor Bandit is in local.
Verus Potestas Caldari Fiat Mort	Posted - 2006.08.26 15:38:00 - [10] Originally by: Dark Shikari Originally by: Verus Potestas Whatever their plan is, I don't think it's profit. Attention whoring? Now that I'll go for Out of interest, did you hear about the Verus AIDS vaccine?
RoMUF	Posted - 2006.08.26 19:53:00 - [11] Energy has to come from somewhere.. even if you burn something enery went into makeing the fuel. The law of preservation of energy prevents an infinite energy source. i think
Baldour Ngarr Artemis Rising	Posted - 2006.08.26 21:30:00 - [12] Originally by: RoMUF Energy has to come from somewhere.. even if you burn something enery went into makeing the fuel. The law of preservation of energy prevents an infinite energy source. i think So far as we know. There's always the possibility that current knowledge will turn out to be wrong, but after three THOUSAND years of playing with magnets, we can be utterly confident that it won't be done this way. ________________________________________________ "I tried strip mining, but I lost, and it's cold flying around in space naked."
Taaketa Frist The Praxis Initiative Interstellar Starbase Syndicate	Posted - 2006.08.26 21:57:00 - [13] This is far more interesting since you can go see it with your own eyes -------------- Dang nabit
Sirana Telor	Posted - 2006.08.27 00:45:00 - [14] Originally by: Baldour Ngarr So far as we know. There's always the possibility that current knowledge will turn out to be wrong Actually, if history is any guide, then the current scientific knowledge will most assuredly turn out to be wrong. Each time science assumed it had the answers and a correct view of physics, something came along and showed it was wrong.
Arigato	Posted - 2006.08.27 01:15:00 - [15] Edited by: Arigato on 27/08/2006 01:16:00 Damn alts...
Kurren Farscape Mining	Posted - 2006.08.27 01:18:00 - [16] Originally by: RoMUF Energy has to come from somewhere.. even if you burn something enery went into makeing the fuel. The law of preservation of energy prevents an infinite energy source. i think They did say it broke the laws of physics... Also, something tells me that it's not CREATING energy... it's simply converting it. And, in the conversion... it gets multiplied. That doesn't sound too off the wall to me. We do it with car stereos all the time. Though, to a much lesser extent. --- --- --- --- SobaKai.com
Dark Shikari Caldari Imperium Technologies Firmus Ixion	Posted - 2006.08.27 01:26:00 - [17] Originally by: Kurren Also, something tells me that it's not CREATING energy... it's simply converting it. And, in the conversion... it gets multiplied. That doesn't sound too off the wall to me. We do it with car stereos all the time. Though, to a much lesser extent. No, we don't do it with car stereos. A car stereo takes a low power audio-containing power stream and a high-power plain power stream and maps the low-power stream onto the high power stream, amplifying it. Thus, the output is a much-amplified version of the low-power stream. It does not create power at any point: it in fact dissipates it. --[23] Member-- Originally by: DB Preacher The only time BoB's backs are to the wall is when Backdoor Bandit is in local.
Kurren Farscape Mining	Posted - 2006.08.27 01:44:00 - [18] You missed what I said... I said we've been converting energy for a long time. Car stereos are an example. Do I need to break it down any farther, or has it been cleared up? The only difference is car stereos don't output more than they receive. --- --- --- --- My Sig Is Not Too Big...
jarack Energy.	Posted - 2006.08.27 02:22:00 - [19] i read to "irishman" and then closed it
Benglada Finite Horizon	Posted - 2006.08.27 03:07:00 - [20] Edited by: Benglada on 27/08/2006 03:07:33 Itll probably de magnetise the middle magnetic, which imo would be pretty cool....I dont know if it would be usefull in anything though. EDIT: Essentially turning the magnet into a battery. --------------------------- Originally by: Arkanor 0.0 is the Final Frontier. Bring money and friends.
Dark Shikari Caldari Imperium Technologies Firmus Ixion	Posted - 2006.08.27 03:12:00 - [21] Originally by: Kurren You missed what I said... I said we've been converting energy for a long time. Car stereos are an example. Do I need to break it down any farther, or has it been cleared up? The only difference is car stereos don't output more than they receive. Well that's a big difference. That's like saying "we've been making machines that get within 1 trillionth of absolute zero: why can't we go negative?" or "my car can go very slow: 0 miles per hour! can't it go negative? it isn't much farther! (not referring to going backwards)" or "we can make monitors that use less and less energy, and some that use nearly none: can we make a computer monitor that magically makes energy?" etc --[23] Member-- Originally by: DB Preacher The only time BoB's backs are to the wall is when Backdoor Bandit is in local.
FooB2 Caldari Pre-nerfed Tactics Blood of the Innocents	Posted - 2006.08.27 10:10:00 - [22] this isnt the first time ive seen this "story" reported. there are apparently people in america that also claim to have done this task, however they claim they are forced to stay quiet because oil tycoons and various patent holders are a bit griped that if an energy source such as were to exist, it would effectivley mean that they are going to go out of business rather quickly. as much as i doubt theyve built a physics-defying machine capable of ridding the world entirley of oil tycoons and pollution, id like to see it happen.
Dred 'Morte Minmatar Sammael's Legion Arkhangelos Command	Posted - 2006.08.27 11:23:00 - [23] n00b question: What happens to energy that is sucked inside a black hole? Does it get out eventually? I heard it doesn't. Since blackholes eventually cease to exist, doesn't that mean that they permanently destroyed energy? Doesn't that simple fact contradict this physics rule that no energy is created nor lost? Signature made by Mr Floppykickners
Baldour Ngarr Artemis Rising	Posted - 2006.08.27 12:17:00 - [24] Originally by: Dred 'Morte n00b question: What happens to energy that is sucked inside a black hole? Does it get out eventually? I heard it doesn't. Since blackholes eventually cease to exist, doesn't that mean that they permanently destroyed energy? Doesn't that simple fact contradict this physics rule that no energy is created nor lost? Various theories abound on what happens to energy once it's gone into a black hole; Hawking has suggested that it can "evaporate" over time. Since there's no convenient black hole nearby that we can run tests on, it's kinda hard to know for sure. ________________________________________________ "I tried strip mining, but I lost, and it's cold flying around in space naked."
Dred 'Morte Minmatar Sammael's Legion Arkhangelos Command	Posted - 2006.08.27 15:43:00 - [25] Suggested? Sorry but I think that theory that no energy is created nor destroyed is bull***. Signature made by Mr Floppykickners*
Dark Shikari Caldari Imperium Technologies Firmus Ixion	Posted - 2006.08.27 15:51:00 - [26] Edited by: Dark Shikari on 27/08/2006 15:50:58 Originally by: Dred 'Morte n00b question: What happens to energy that is sucked inside a black hole? Does it get out eventually? I heard it doesn't. Since blackholes eventually cease to exist, doesn't that mean that they permanently destroyed energy? Doesn't that simple fact contradict this physics rule that no energy is created nor lost? The black hole gains mass from the energy (E=MC^2). Originally by: Dred 'Morte Suggested? Sorry but I think that theory that no energy is created nor destroyed is bull**. Give me one example of a phenomenon in the entire universe where energy is destroyed. --[23] Member-- Originally by:** DB Preacher The only time BoB's backs are to the wall is when Backdoor Bandit is in local.
Saiyar Infinitus Morti	Posted - 2006.08.27 16:09:00 - [27] This is most likely a Viral ad campaign. From what I have been able to find out it is most likely to be for Halo 3. Altho both parties have denied this it is remarkebly similar to the viral campaign for halo 2 which was also denied at the time. The complete lack of info given out by the website and the fact that 5 years ago Streon was a company that advised buisnesses on e-commerce also add weight to the viral ad theory.

Suvetar Forum Moderator Interstellar Services Department	Posted - 2006.08.27 16:30:00 - [28] I think the whole concept is quite interesting There's only one thing worse then scientists arguing about stuff that they believe in; and that's programmers arguing about code layout They say they've filed 7 Patents, can anyone find the link ? forum rules \| [email protected] \| Our new Website!

Dred 'Morte Minmatar Sammael's Legion Arkhangelos Command	Posted - 2006.08.27 18:17:00 - [29] Originally by: Dark Shikari Edited by: Dark Shikari on 27/08/2006 15:50:58 Originally by: Dred 'Morte n00b question: What happens to energy that is sucked inside a black hole? Does it get out eventually? I heard it doesn't. Since blackholes eventually cease to exist, doesn't that mean that they permanently destroyed energy? Doesn't that simple fact contradict this physics rule that no energy is created nor lost? The black hole gains mass from the energy (E=MC^2). Originally by: Dred 'Morte Suggested? Sorry but I think that theory that no energy is created nor destroyed is bull***. Give me one example of a phenomenon in the entire universe where energy is destroyed. I don't need to. I just feel like there are forces in the universe, energies, that are not used. If we use them / exploit them, infinite energy is possible. This "breaktrough", true or fake, is one out of several done in the last 10 or 20 years. Eventually, perhaps by the time we start running out oil and other stuff currently used for energy, one we'll be recognized as "not fake". You'll see! I bet 5mill isk we're going to have free energy in the future. By the time I'm really old, we'll see if I'm right or not... If EVE is still Online by then Signature made by Mr Floppykickners*
Dark Shikari Caldari Imperium Technologies Firmus Ixion	Posted - 2006.08.27 18:48:00 - [30] Originally by: Dred 'Morte I don't need to. I just feel like there are forces in the universe, energies, that are not used. If we use them / exploit them, infinite energy is possible. Ah. So you go by the philosophy of truthiness. --[23] Member-- Originally by: DB Preacher The only time BoB's backs are to the wall is when Backdoor Bandit is in local.

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