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Jack Folstam Minmatar The Shadow Order The Shadow Ascension	Posted - 2006.08.26 21:24:00 - [61] Originally by: Geistkonig -5.0 sec drop is fine, from an RP perspective, but permanent is silly. Even -10 pirates can have a change of heart down the road. That is true. Drop them to -10.0 then, it'll take them awhile to work back up if they don't have 0.0 connections. This isn't the same as attacking a CONCORD Npc, your attacking a CONCORD event char and widely publicizing it. Thus, a stronger response would make sense. ------- It's only a flesh wound....
Dark Shikari Caldari Imperium Technologies Firmus Ixion	Posted - 2006.08.26 21:24:00 - [62] Edited by: Dark Shikari on 26/08/2006 21:23:51 Quote: http://dl1.eve-files.com/media/0608/concord%281%29.JPG Thanks --[23] Member-- Originally by: DB Preacher The only time BoB's backs are to the wall is when Backdoor Bandit is in local.
Eschwen Gas Giant Industries	Posted - 2006.08.26 21:24:00 - [63] Screenie linkage
Tarquin Tarquinius Gallente	Posted - 2006.08.26 21:26:00 - [64] I started an RP thread about this incident (not the Event itself) in Intergalactic Summit. Linkage ------------------------ The Almighty says this must be a fashionable fight. It's drawn the finest people. - an Amarr Mercenary
Merchant Marine	Posted - 2006.08.26 21:27:00 - [65] It was still fun!! I helped accomplish the destruction of those CONCORD ships!!! ----------------- Yeah I was not in a combat ship at the time. However, I led the gang, so I figured I would post. Here's the last ship killmail. Oh, and thanks to Lofty for spamming gang invites before we got the news of the Nyx's destruction, so that the mob was large and angry enough afterwards to kill all of CONCORD! 2006.08.26 20:15 Victim: Sergeant Alfotada Alliance: NONE Corp: CONCORD Destroyed: Concord Special Ops Cruiser System: Stacmon Security: 0.6 Involved parties: Name: Szaman (laid the final blow) Security: -1.5 Alliance: NONE Corp: Art of War Ship: Armageddon Weapon: Infiltrator II Name: Minnow maught Security: 0.8 Alliance: NONE Corp: Art of War Ship: Thorax Weapon: Hammerhead II Name: Waragha Security: -1.4 Alliance: NONE Corp: Art of War Ship: Dominix Weapon: Ogre I Name: Eclipsen413 Security: -1.9 Alliance: Knights Of the Southerncross Corp: Shadows of the Dead Ship: Megathron Weapon: Wasp I Name: Geistkonig Security: -2.2 Alliance: NONE Corp: Allzumenschliches Incorporated Ship: Omen Weapon: Hobgoblin I Name: theghosthunter Security: 1.1 Alliance: NONE Corp: Dragon core Ship: Ferox Weapon: Thunderbolt Heavy Missile Name: thatsright Security: 0.3 Alliance: NONE Corp: X-Fire Ship: Wolf Weapon: Wolf Name: Merchant Marine <------------Thats me!! Security: 0.7 Alliance: The Core Collective Corp: RELENTLESS ASSASSINS Ship: Brutix Weapon: Hammerhead I Name: Palx Security: -1.5 Alliance: NONE Corp: Art of War Ship: Malediction Weapon: Dual Light Pulse Laser II Destroyed items: Havoc Precision Heavy Missile, Qty: 500 (Cargo) Phased Plasma M, Qty: 1000 (Cargo) Hydra F.O.F. Heavy Missile I, Qty: 604 (Cargo) Stalker F.O.F. Heavy Missile I, Qty: 604 (Cargo) Multifrequency M Reactor Control Unit II Medium Armor Repairer II Cap Recharger II Sensor Booster II Tracking Computer II Heavy Beam Laser II Heavy Missile Launcher II Heavy Missile Launcher II Radio M (Cargo) Medium Armor Maintenance Bot I (Drone Bay) Medium Armor Maintenance Bot I (Drone Bay) Multifrequency M Hornet II (Drone Bay) Hornet II (Drone Bay) Hornet II (Drone Bay) Hornet II (Drone Bay) Stalker F.O.F. Heavy Missile I, Qty: 10 Hydra F.O.F. Heavy Missile I, Qty: 10 -----------
Geistkonig	Posted - 2006.08.26 21:28:00 - [66] Originally by: Jack Folstam Originally by: Geistkonig -5.0 sec drop is fine, from an RP perspective, but permanent is silly. Even -10 pirates can have a change of heart down the road. That is true. Drop them to -10.0 then, it'll take them awhile to work back up if they don't have 0.0 connections. This isn't the same as attacking a CONCORD Npc, your attacking a CONCORD event char and widely publicizing it. Thus, a stronger response would make sense. -10 is even sillier. -5.0 is reasonable because it fits RP-wise and won't cause me to throw up my hands in frustration because I'm under year old, with no way to recover from that kind of sec-status ditch --- Menschliches, allzumenschliches.
Jack Folstam Minmatar The Shadow Order The Shadow Ascension	Posted - 2006.08.26 21:32:00 - [67] Edited by: Jack Folstam on 26/08/2006 21:34:22 Originally by: Geistkonig Originally by: Jack Folstam Originally by: Geistkonig -5.0 sec drop is fine, from an RP perspective, but permanent is silly. Even -10 pirates can have a change of heart down the road. That is true. Drop them to -10.0 then, it'll take them awhile to work back up if they don't have 0.0 connections. This isn't the same as attacking a CONCORD Npc, your attacking a CONCORD event char and widely publicizing it. Thus, a stronger response would make sense. -10 is even sillier. -5.0 is reasonable because it fits RP-wise and won't cause me to throw up my hands in frustration because I'm under year old, with no way to recover from that kind of sec-status ditch Should've thought of that before you attacked Concord hmm? 0.0 isn't actually that dangerous once you get past the entry systems. Also, 500k bs's are wimps, a decently fitted assault frigate can blow one with no problems. 4, maybe 5 hours light ratting in 0.0 and my secstatus went up by 0.2 and i was at 4.2 at the time. I've never tried it, but i suppose a decently fitted cruiser could do well enough against the bc spawns and perhaps the single low-isk bs spawns as well. Heck, even an interceptor can rat fine. Also, from what i've heard, the lower your secstatus, the bigger the boost from killing npc's ------- It's only a flesh wound....
Dark Shikari Caldari Imperium Technologies Firmus Ixion	Posted - 2006.08.26 21:35:00 - [68] Edited by: Dark Shikari on 26/08/2006 21:35:43 Originally by: Jack Folstam Originally by: Geistkonig Originally by: Jack Folstam Originally by: Geistkonig -5.0 sec drop is fine, from an RP perspective, but permanent is silly. Even -10 pirates can have a change of heart down the road. That is true. Drop them to -10.0 then, it'll take them awhile to work back up if they don't have 0.0 connections. This isn't the same as attacking a CONCORD Npc, your attacking a CONCORD event char and widely publicizing it. Thus, a stronger response would make sense. -10 is even sillier. -5.0 is reasonable because it fits RP-wise and won't cause me to throw up my hands in frustration because I'm under year old, with no way to recover from that kind of sec-status ditch Should've thought of that before you attacked Concord hmm? notes the fact that in the entire history of all Events in EVE history, CONCORD or no CONCORD, nobody's security has ever been lowered as a result, nor has there been any consequences other than bans for the few people who repeatedly disrupted multiple events --[23] Member-- Originally by: DB Preacher The only time BoB's backs are to the wall is when Backdoor Bandit is in local.
lofty29 Gallente Tolarri Conglomerate	Posted - 2006.08.26 21:35:00 - [69] Originally by: Merchant Marine Oh, and thanks to Lofty for spamming gang invites before we got the news of the Nyx's destruction, so that the mob was large and angry enough afterwards to kill all of CONCORD! I hit 'Warp Gang' Too --------------------------- Originally by: inSpirAcy Just like a tumour, the Brutix grows on you. Please resize image to a maximum of 400 x 120, not exceeding 24000 bytes, ty - Cortes
Jack Folstam Minmatar The Shadow Order The Shadow Ascension	Posted - 2006.08.26 21:40:00 - [70] Originally by: Dark Shikari Edited by: Dark Shikari on 26/08/2006 21:35:43 Originally by: Jack Folstam Originally by: Geistkonig Originally by: Jack Folstam Originally by: Geistkonig -5.0 sec drop is fine, from an RP perspective, but permanent is silly. Even -10 pirates can have a change of heart down the road. That is true. Drop them to -10.0 then, it'll take them awhile to work back up if they don't have 0.0 connections. This isn't the same as attacking a CONCORD Npc, your attacking a CONCORD event char and widely publicizing it. Thus, a stronger response would make sense. -10 is even sillier. -5.0 is reasonable because it fits RP-wise and won't cause me to throw up my hands in frustration because I'm under year old, with no way to recover from that kind of sec-status ditch Should've thought of that before you attacked Concord hmm? notes the fact that in the entire history of all Events in EVE history, CONCORD or no CONCORD, nobody's security has ever been lowered as a result, nor has there been any consequences other than bans for the few people who repeatedly disrupted multiple events Hey, i'm saying what could be done, not what will be done, in my defense. I think it'd be a good idea, because i think it'd make for another good event (hunt the criminals!!). I've heard ideas that they should put a bounty on the attackers, but bounties are effectively broken ------- It's only a flesh wound....
Captain Logic	Posted - 2006.08.26 21:41:00 - [71] Quote: notes the fact that in the entire history of all Events in EVE history, CONCORD or no CONCORD, nobody's security has ever been lowered as a result, nor has there been any consequences other than bans for the few people who repeatedly disrupted multiple events Nobody has been banned for disrupting events, multiple times or not.
Dark Shikari Caldari Imperium Technologies Firmus Ixion	Posted - 2006.08.26 21:42:00 - [72] Originally by: Jack Folstam Hey, i'm saying what could be done, not what will be done, in my defense. I think it'd be a good idea, because i think it'd make for another good event (hunt the criminals!!). I've heard ideas that they should put a bounty on the attackers, but bounties are effectively broken Here's what would be a good idea, but will never, ever happen. Viceroy suggested something like this. CONCORD comes back to hunt those who attacked them, and some AURORA come out of the works to lead the victims of the CONCORD attack (claim its unfair, abuse of power, etc). Some players join the more powerful CONCORD side, others join the player side, and the event plays out. That would be awesome. --[23] Member-- Originally by: DB Preacher The only time BoB's backs are to the wall is when Backdoor Bandit is in local.
Jack Folstam Minmatar The Shadow Order The Shadow Ascension	Posted - 2006.08.26 21:45:00 - [73] Perhaps a serpentis character to thank them and protect them? I don't think abuse of power makes much sense, but then, people do and say a lot of things i don't think make much sense hehe ------- It's only a flesh wound....
lofty29 Gallente Tolarri Conglomerate	Posted - 2006.08.26 21:45:00 - [74] Originally by: Dark Shikari Originally by: Jack Folstam Hey, i'm saying what could be done, not what will be done, in my defense. I think it'd be a good idea, because i think it'd make for another good event (hunt the criminals!!). I've heard ideas that they should put a bounty on the attackers, but bounties are effectively broken Here's what would be a good idea, but will never, ever happen. Viceroy suggested something like this. CONCORD comes back to hunt those who attacked them, and some AURORA come out of the works to lead the victims of the CONCORD attack (claim its unfair, abuse of power, etc). Some players join the more powerful CONCORD side, others join the player side, and the event plays out. That would be awesome. QFT! We would so win. We have KOS alliance on our side --------------------------- Originally by: inSpirAcy Just like a tumour, the Brutix grows on you. Please resize image to a maximum of 400 x 120, not exceeding 24000 bytes, ty - Cortes
Malthros Zenobia Caldari Independent Navy Reserve Kimotoro Directive	Posted - 2006.08.26 21:46:00 - [75] Originally by: Dwaggysnaxx Originally by: Dark Shikari Edited by: Dark Shikari on 26/08/2006 21:19:12 Link removed due to GOATSE ATTEMPT by Goon member. Didn't mother teach you not to leech images off other peoples web spaces? Maybe you should learn what leeching is.
lofty29 Gallente Tolarri Conglomerate	Posted - 2006.08.26 21:48:00 - [76] Originally by: Jack Folstam Perhaps a serpentis character to thank them and protect them? I don't think abuse of power makes much sense, but then, people do and say a lot of things i don't think make much sense hehe Salvador sarparti comes out of the woodwork after all these years, gets in his stolen Soluteur (with the original model ) and comes and pwns concord for us?! YES PLZ!!! --------------------------- Originally by: inSpirAcy Just like a tumour, the Brutix grows on you. Please resize image to a maximum of 400 x 120, not exceeding 24000 bytes, ty - Cortes
Dark Shikari Caldari Imperium Technologies Firmus Ixion	Posted - 2006.08.26 21:51:00 - [77] Originally by: lofty29 Originally by: Jack Folstam Perhaps a serpentis character to thank them and protect them? I don't think abuse of power makes much sense, but then, people do and say a lot of things i don't think make much sense hehe Salvador sarparti comes out of the woodwork after all these years, gets in his stolen Soluteur (with the original model ) and comes and pwns concord for us?! YES PLZ!!! HELL YES! That would rock so damn hard --[23] Member-- Originally by: DB Preacher The only time BoB's backs are to the wall is when Backdoor Bandit is in local.
Geistkonig	Posted - 2006.08.26 21:54:00 - [78] Question: when exactly did this event start, relative to the time at which it was ended and the slaughter of CONCORD began? I got sucked in about halfway through, by my own estimates. Would like to disprove arguments that non-Goon players took 'too long to gather,' if someone has timestamps. --- Menschliches, allzumenschliches.
Dark Shikari Caldari Imperium Technologies Firmus Ixion	Posted - 2006.08.26 21:56:00 - [79] Originally by: Geistkonig Question: when exactly did this event start, relative to the time at which it was ended and the slaughter of CONCORD began? I got sucked in about halfway through, by my own estimates. Would like to disprove arguments that non-Goon players took 'too long to gather,' if someone has timestamps. Goon got the Nyx only 15 minutes after it appeared, I believe. CONCORD hadn't even taken off when it was killed. --[23] Member-- Originally by: DB Preacher The only time BoB's backs are to the wall is when Backdoor Bandit is in local.
Tarquin Tarquinius Gallente	Posted - 2006.08.26 22:04:00 - [80] Originally by: Geistkonig Question: when exactly did this event start, relative to the time at which it was ended and the slaughter of CONCORD began? I got sucked in about halfway through, by my own estimates. Would like to disprove arguments that non-Goon players took 'too long to gather,' if someone has timestamps. I lost my ship at 18:52, and I think Concord agents first put out a call in the Gallente Chat channel at about 18:45. So I'd guess it started between 18:30 and 18:45 ------------------------ The Almighty says this must be a fashionable fight. It's drawn the finest people. - an Amarr Mercenary
Eclipsen413 Shadows of the Dead Knights Of the Southerncross	Posted - 2006.08.26 22:08:00 - [81] Originally by: Lofty29 We would so win. We have KOS alliance on our side what makes you think we've got my whole alliance on our side? __________________________________________________ you're slower than Stephen Hawking in a snow storm
lofty29 Gallente Tolarri Conglomerate	Posted - 2006.08.26 22:11:00 - [82] Originally by: Geistkonig Would like to disprove arguments that non-Goon players took 'too long to gather,' if someone has timestamps. Well. Put it this way. Concord put out a notice in oursu local at about 18:50. I had a taranis fitted by 18:52 and headed to stacmon (about 11 jumps) at 4km/s. Took 10 mins. 5 minutes later, we attacked concord. --------------------------- Originally by: inSpirAcy Just like a tumour, the Brutix grows on you. Please resize image to a maximum of 400 x 120, not exceeding 24000 bytes, ty - Cortes
AlienBreed Minmatar LFC 3rd Front Alliance	Posted - 2006.08.26 23:18:00 - [83] Edited by: AlienBreed on 26/08/2006 23:21:04 actually i feel there are a few points that need to be raised here about the incident tonight and the nyx that escaped justice and ran amok firstly is it possible that 3FA could get a proper copy of the kill mail for our records, what we have was trunicated to death and many people didnt get the recognition they deserved secondly goon fleet took the final blow however it was 3FA that bravely engaged this criminal first, and whilest i do not grudge our friends in goonfleet their moment of glory, nobody from 3FA have seen 1 isk of the bounty that was spoken of, nor any share of the loot.Our guys lost ships there and we didnt come in frigates, it would be nice if concord would recognise our service to law and order , perhaps a medal or award of some kind? i dont know 3FA is a highly motivated and law abiding force for good in the lower syndicate area and we are always ready to come to the aid of concord should it be required
Rezzn Mardok	Posted - 2006.08.26 23:25:00 - [84] Originally by: AlienBreed Edited by: AlienBreed on 26/08/2006 23:21:04 actually i feel there are a few points that need to be raised here about the incident tonight and the nyx that escaped justice and ran amok firstly is it possible that 3FA could get a proper copy of the kill mail for our records, what we have was trunicated to death and many people didnt get the recognition they deserved secondly goon fleet took the final blow however it was 3FA that bravely engaged this criminal first, and whilest i do not grudge our friends in goonfleet their moment of glory, nobody from 3FA have seen 1 isk of the bounty that was spoken of, nor any share of the loot.Our guys lost ships there and we didnt come in frigates, it would be nice if concord would recognise our service to law and order , perhaps a medal or award of some kind? i dont know 3FA is a highly motivated and law abiding force for good in the lower syndicate area and we are always ready to come to the aid of concord should it be required lol
Alcohol Priest LFC 3rd Front Alliance	Posted - 2006.08.26 23:33:00 - [85] Someone wanted to know about response times. From my game logs I have the following [19:00:20] Inspector Miroodt > According to our readings, Siral has jumped into PFP-GU. First info 3FA has on this. Assembles fleet in its home system. then.... [ 2006.08.26 19:44:54 ] (combat) <color=0xffbbbb00>Your 425mm Railgun I is well aimed at Admiral Siral (Nyx), inflicting 106.4 damage. Was pretty much the first shot onto the Nyx, it warped to the 3FA fleet at Planet 2. Shortly after we were supported by Goonfleet 10 minutes later it was down. [ 2006.08.26 19:54:01 ] (combat) <color=0xffbbbb00>Your 425mm Railgun I is well aimed at Admiral Siral (Nyx), inflicting 250.0 damage. Was my last shot before the nyx went down, the pod went shortly after too. If concord started asking for help at 18:50 (assume this was your local time, not eve time?) then the nyx was already more or less gone by then, just 4 minutes later from Concords plea for help we had finished the job and sent the thieving Siral back to his clone, hopefully now with no pirate implants either Unfortunately we got no reward, apart from a few more lossmails for our brave pilots.
Tobias Sjodin Caldari Ore Mongers Pirate Coalition	Posted - 2006.08.26 23:40:00 - [86] I think the fault here is lack of planning, and the lack of honoring ones words. I wasn't even a part of the gang, but I still think it's "meh" to the ones that actually went to the gathering, only to find out that there was no reward, and the event was not to be. So who will pay attention the next time someone yells: "To Stacmon! You will get teh prize!111" ? [they solved the wcs-prob]
Tarquin Tarquinius Gallente	Posted - 2006.08.26 23:43:00 - [87] In a perfect world everyone took part would recieve a piece of the reward, and everyone who lost a ship would have it replaced by Concord, but I wouldn't hold my breath for that. ------------------------ The Almighty says this must be a fashionable fight. It's drawn the finest people. - an Amarr Mercenary
Syris Anu Evolutionary Pressure	Posted - 2006.08.26 23:49:00 - [88] I have created a RP thread on this event from my personal witnessing and retelling of the event here for those who want to know more about what happened and also lacking kill mails and such: The Stacmon Rebellion Please add any additional RP comments to that thread.
BuSHiDo ZiN GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2006.08.26 23:56:00 - [89] Originally by: AlienBreed Edited by: AlienBreed on 26/08/2006 23:21:04 actually i feel there are a few points that need to be raised here about the incident tonight and the nyx that escaped justice and ran amok firstly is it possible that 3FA could get a proper copy of the kill mail for our records, what we have was trunicated to death and many people didnt get the recognition they deserved secondly goon fleet took the final blow however it was 3FA that bravely engaged this criminal first, and whilest i do not grudge our friends in goonfleet their moment of glory, nobody from 3FA have seen 1 isk of the bounty that was spoken of, nor any share of the loot.Our guys lost ships there and we didnt come in frigates, it would be nice if concord would recognise our service to law and order , perhaps a medal or award of some kind? i dont know 3FA is a highly motivated and law abiding force for good in the lower syndicate area and we are always ready to come to the aid of concord should it be required As of this time, to my knowledge, no member of goonfleet has recieved any compensation or been contacted by CONCORD agents concerning the destruction of the stolen Nyx. The pilot who recieved the killmail in our gang did not notice until an hour after the fact, and it seems you have since been supplied with a copy of it for your records. When we are contacted by CONCORD I can assure you that members of 3FA will be the first to know about it. As for loot, it seems there was a can scramble as soon as the Bixendou went down, and it is all but impossible to determine who got the loot. I'd like to thank 3FA for all of their help in this, though the killmail is truncated be assured that MANY 3FA battleships populated the list of heavy damage dealers to the Bixendou while the bulk of the Goonfleet gang took down her fighters. The goonfleet gang arrived at planet 2 approximately one minute and 30 seconds after the 3fa gang engaged it. The tank failed at approximately 19:51 EVE time, and began to suffer structure damage at 19:53:40, less than a minute later it was destroyed
Sabiokah	Posted - 2006.08.27 00:05:00 - [90] Im sorry for those in stackmon who expected a reward but as far as I know, 3fa and Goonswarn didnt know about the event before engaging the mothership.

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