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Klyith
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2014.11.10 12:59:39 -
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I think it should have a covert cloak, and 5 times the EHP of a titan, a built-in MJD and 5 points of warp stabs, and if anyone even tries to gank you in it they get auto-banned and their characters biomassed. Oh, and as you fly through space it constantly yells WARNING THIS VEHICLE IS PROTECTED BY CCP MOVE AWAY FROM THE SHIP and if anyone approaches within 2500m they are preemptively concorded.
Actually I think 350k ehp sounds just fine. It's about the same EHP as the battleships it carries, so a full load of ships aren't magically safer just by sticking them inside. Incursion runners wanted The Tug because transporting multiple fitted ships was a pain, now it's less of one. |
Klyith
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2014.11.10 17:20:29 -
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Entity wrote:
This only strengthen my point regarding the slots. There is no point in slots if there's only the illusion of choice in what to use them for.
Sure there's choice in what to use slots for. For example, you could choose to align-fit and carry 3 ordinary T1 battleships and a few cruisers. Even with way less tank than an all-bulkhead fit, that cargo isn't worth a gank attempt.
Just because the people who want this ship the most want to carry around 3 pimp-fit pirate battleships, does not mean that the thing should be built to give them their every desire on a platter. It's not like you can't run incursions in a plain T1 BS if you wanted to. |
Klyith
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2014.11.11 18:18:41 -
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S'No Flake wrote:
Seriously? effectively ungankable?
You can bump this ship out of alignment until downtime and bringing a few waves of cheap fit destroyers to kill it.
It's pretty damn easy to draw concord away between waves.
I like it more with the shield increase because now you can bring your 2nd char in a loki with links and maybe surprise the gankers :)
"Effectively" does not mean perfectly ungankable. It means that you have 400k ehp and the kind of heroic measures someone has to go through to gank you is not just a big up-front expense, it's the type of time and manpower commitment that happens only once a year, during Burn Jita.
As it is this thing can be fit for max EHP with no loss to capacity, versus freighters that are rarely all-bulkhead fit. So take the number of taloses you see on the average freighter killmail and add at least 50% more. 18-20 taloses to be sure of killing this thing means unless you have some damn good reason to believe that there are officer-fit ships in there it's unlikely to pay off.
(Assuming that CCP is even able to get the fix for looting SMAs done by the time this gets into the game. Until that happens, go nuts with nanofiber and hyperspace rigs, nobody is going to bother.) |
Klyith
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2014.11.11 18:23:11 -
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Valterra Craven wrote:
That being said, the fact that people can repeatedly kill ships in hi sec over and over again is stupid. Think of it this way. Criminals today usually get second and third chances, but at some point, the legal systems realizes a person is a lost cause and removes them civilization.
Nah. Get yourself billions of dollars and you can get away with murder, even mass murder, in the real world. |
Klyith
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2014.11.11 18:34:25 -
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Valterra Craven wrote:Klyith wrote:Valterra Craven wrote:
That being said, the fact that people can repeatedly kill ships in hi sec over and over again is stupid. Think of it this way. Criminals today usually get second and third chances, but at some point, the legal systems realizes a person is a lost cause and removes them civilization.
Nah. Get yourself billions of dollars and you can get away with murder, even mass murder, in the real world. Even in that example, it would seem that the amount of people able to achieve that level of get out of jail is very low, compared to anyone being able to do that in Eve.
Capsuleers are the rarest of the rare and the richest of the rich. Every eve player who can pay off tags for sec is throwing away several Warren Buffets of money to get Concord to "forget" their crimes.
Anyways it's a dumb train of thought because alts. It eventually leads to saying that CCP has to ban anyone that starts a new account while a previous account has a criminal character. Or that CCP do something like identify real players and spread their criminal status across all characters. People would quit the game. I'd quit and I don't even gank but once in a blue moon. |
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