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Arronicus
Fusion Enterprises Ltd
Brothers of Tangra
1236
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Posted - 2014.11.10 11:10:01 -
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So, the details are here: https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=5194837#post5194837
For anyone who hasn't seen it yet.
BOWHEAD
Ore Freighter Bonus:
5% bonus to max velocity per level
5% bonus to ship maintenance array capacity per level
Role Bonus:
90% reduction in jump fatigue generation
Slot layout: 0H, 3M, 3L, 3R; 0 turrets, 0 launchers
Fittings: 1350 PWG, 215 CPU
Defense (shields / armor / hull) : 10000 / 11000 / 36500
Capacitor (amount / recharge) : 3900 / 235000
Mobility (max velocity / agility / mass / warp speed): 65 / .065 / 640000000 / 1.37
Drones (bandwidth / bay): 0 / 0
Targeting (max targeting range / Scan Resolution / Max Locked targets): 51.5km / 45 / 3
Capacity (cargo / ship maintenance array): 4000 / 1300000 (goes up to 1.6 something with ore freighter 5)
Sensor strength: 12
Signature radius: 3200
Easy to gank with low hp (sub freighter unless fit for tank), freighter style agility, and room for a maximum of 3 fully fit BS, will anyone really use this, or just the odd incursion runner, who will end up quickly losing it to Code and friends?
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Odithia
Federal Defense Union
Gallente Federation
69
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Posted - 2014.11.10 11:36:13 -
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It is a bit tankier than a travel fit incursion BS, yet probably not tanky enough to justify the slow align time and all. |
Syrias Bizniz
Zebra Corp
The Bastion
368
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Posted - 2014.11.10 13:54:55 -
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If aligntime is a problem for you then maybe you should look into a Daredevil on an Alt.
Of course you could always take your time and fly the 3 BS one by one, still being shiny gank magnets.
Or you could put 3 of them rigged into the Bowhead, fly them over, and use a Transport for carrying the shiny modules in a second haul.
You know, being smart and stuff.
Or you don't use it to fly 3 BS, but 20 Cruisers. Like, moving your PvP arsenal across highsec.
Or deploy whole Cruiser-Doctrines in Nullsec with 10-20 of these and a Titan.
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Mizhir
Mind Games.
Suddenly Spaceships.
69336
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Posted - 2014.11.10 14:30:12 -
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Syrias Bizniz wrote:If aligntime is a problem for you then maybe you should look into a Daredevil on an Alt.
Of course you could always take your time and fly the 3 BS one by one, still being shiny gank magnets.
Or you could put 3 of them rigged into the Bowhead, fly them over, and use a Transport for carrying the shiny modules in a second haul.
You know, being smart and stuff.
Or you don't use it to fly 3 BS, but 20 Cruisers. Like, moving your PvP arsenal across highsec.
Or deploy whole Cruiser-Doctrines in Nullsec with 10-20 of these and a Titan.
That's the great thing about eve. Smart people will benefit and ignorant people will fail.
One Man Crew - Collective solo pvp
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Mina Sebiestar
Mactabilis Simplex Cursus
754
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Posted - 2014.11.10 15:52:22 -
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This ship excite me.
Going tank is not my forte will fit for warp speed and alighn time...goodies bar hull and rigs go different route.
Make it look badarse if ship dont use existing hull. |
Aqriue
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
711
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Posted - 2014.11.11 10:59:49 -
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Waste of dev time, will be the next big thing to blow up. Thought process at CCP is that people are dumb enough to use it, pack it like a pinata, make it super easy to kill, and create isk sink since ship a billion in ships blow up better than 100s of random **** in the hull (50/50 something drops, but the greater the number of items the more likely it will drop vs just a few items at the same odds). |
Arronicus
Fusion Enterprises Ltd
Brothers of Tangra
1247
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Posted - 2014.11.11 11:33:07 -
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Update for those not following the main thread;
CCP Rise took the stats back to the team, switching useless speed bonus for agi, and boosting up the HP. Not sure by how much yet. |
Ralph King-Griffin
Lords.Of.Midnight
The Devil's Warrior Alliance
6663
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Posted - 2014.11.11 12:28:43 -
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Arronicus wrote:Update for those not following the main thread;
CCP Rise took the stats back to the team, switching useless speed bonus for agi, and boosting up the HP. Not sure by how much yet.
here
CCP Rise wrote:Alright, we're talking about it here and think there's probably no good reason not to raise the HP some. Where do you guys think it needs to be to make say, three t2 fit BS, inefficient to gank?
And you're right about afk travel vs active travel, switching to agility to support align time sounds good to me.
"I'm also quite confident that you are laughing
and it's the kind of laugh that gives normal people shivers."
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baltec1
Bat Country
Goonswarm Federation
13846
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Posted - 2014.11.11 13:19:31 -
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350k ehp is not a soft target and it comes with the ability to fit a mwd so it aligns much faster than a freighter.
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Ralph King-Griffin
Lords.Of.Midnight
The Devil's Warrior Alliance
6663
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Posted - 2014.11.11 15:42:31 -
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baltec1 wrote:350k ehp is not a soft target and it comes with the ability to fit a mwd so it aligns much faster than a freighter.
i know but people were winging that anything over one t2 fit battle ship would make it gank efficient, personally im just going to fill mine with frigates and cruisers and other fun stuff
"I'm also quite confident that you are laughing
and it's the kind of laugh that gives normal people shivers."
=]I[=
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Trey Kutoi
Nyarlthotep Holdings Ltd.
32
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Posted - 2014.11.11 17:39:12 -
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how many fitted catalysts can you stick inside? |
Ralph King-Griffin
Lords.Of.Midnight
The Devil's Warrior Alliance
6667
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Posted - 2014.11.11 17:41:28 -
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Trey Kutoi wrote:how many fitted catalysts can you stick inside?
enough
"I'm also quite confident that you are laughing
and it's the kind of laugh that gives normal people shivers."
=]I[=
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Antillie Sa'Kan
Forging Industries
Silent Infinity
746
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Posted - 2014.11.11 17:43:16 -
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Trey Kutoi wrote:how many fitted catalysts can you stick inside?
With ORE Freighter V, 29. |
Chainsaw Plankton
IDLE GUNS
IDLE EMPIRE
746
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Posted - 2014.11.12 03:58:18 -
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baltec1 wrote:350k ehp is not a soft target and it comes with the ability to fit a mwd so it aligns much faster than a freighter.
indeed,it has around the same PG as is required for a 100mn MWD, almost like CCP did that on purpose or something. 
I'll join the chorus asking CCP, don't take my fancy names away from me!
In the name of the Limos, the Malkuth, and the Arbalest, so help me pod
- Mara Rinn
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baltec1
Bat Country
Goonswarm Federation
13860
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Posted - 2014.11.12 05:38:57 -
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Chainsaw Plankton wrote:baltec1 wrote:350k ehp is not a soft target and it comes with the ability to fit a mwd so it aligns much faster than a freighter. indeed,it has around the same PG as is required for a 100mn MWD, almost like CCP did that on purpose or something.
You were expecting a ship that didnt require fitting choices?
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Jacob Holland
Weyland-Vulcan Industries
331
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Posted - 2014.11.12 13:28:52 -
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With the inertia mod change it might be agile enough to use a 100MN AB - even faster align (7.5 sec vs 10 sec) and fitting left over for tank. |
stoicfaux
5406
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Posted - 2014.11.12 14:18:56 -
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So what happens to local/grid/tidi when one (or more) of these things pops full of shuttles?
WASABI: Warp Acceleration System Ancillary Boost Injected(Gäó)
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Gosti Kahanid
GANOR Deep Space Explorers
GANOR INC.
70
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Posted - 2014.11.12 14:59:27 -
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stoicfaux wrote:So what happens to local/grid/tidi when one (or more) of these things pops full of shuttles?
The same when a Ship assembly array gets destroyed. You have a wreck with lot of Ships in it |
Mina Sebiestar
Mactabilis Simplex Cursus
755
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Posted - 2014.11.12 17:09:59 -
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Looks even better now,if it can launch ships in space it is home away from home. |
Jessica Duranin
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
296
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Posted - 2014.11.12 18:40:42 -
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Gosti Kahanid wrote:stoicfaux wrote:So what happens to local/grid/tidi when one (or more) of these things pops full of shuttles?
The same when a Ship assembly array gets destroyed. You have a wreck with lot of Ships in it
Ship hangars from orcas/carriers currently don't drop anything. |
Nya Kittenheart
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
4
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Posted - 2014.11.13 02:48:19 -
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It's unclear if it's SMA coded or SMB coded right now ,the two things don't work in the same way.
-No ore bay :(
-Slow without implants
-New skill doesn't make sense at all , 3 skills affecting only ORE ships is meh
-SMA is a bit tiny to accomplish the "all in one incursion hauler"
-BP should be made available trought concord LP
-Cpu is a bit short +15 plz |
Grognard Commissar
EVE University
Ivy League
1
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Posted - 2014.11.14 15:57:28 -
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Nya Kittenheart wrote:It's unclear if it's SMA coded or SMB coded right now ,the two things don't work in the same way.
-No ore bay :(
-Slow without implants
-New skill doesn't make sense at all , 3 skills affecting only ORE ships is meh
-SMA is a bit tiny to accomplish the "all in one incursion hauler"
-BP should be made available trought concord LP
-Cpu is a bit short +15 plz
umm... no point to aore bay, as you can just use a regular freighter to haul obscene amounts of compressed ore already.
it's a freighter, of course it's slow...
also, it's an ORE faction ship, of course it take ORE skills...
and why the hell would an ORE ship be available from a CONCORD LP store? |
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