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Gunrunner1775
Interstellar Engineering and Electronics INC
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Posted - 2014.11.11 08:05:03 -
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like the subject says.....
for me, some of my friends play those "other" mmo games (i used to) they ask me about eve... this is what i say...
EVE is the most dime dropping - back stabbing - buddy ****** - cut throat - PVP you will ever see... its awsome...
then i go along the lines of .... imagine that dungeon your in with your buddies and you die,.. now imagine that all the gear you are wearing is now GONE cause you died and your left nekkid at your bind point... the look of total shock and horror is priceless
trust no one paranoia rules all fly only what you can afford to loose you will loose...many times |

Josef Djugashvilis
2657
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Posted - 2014.11.11 08:07:46 -
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I have tried many, many times.
My friends just tell me to be my age (59) and stop playing a kids game...
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Sadario
Appetite 4 Destruction
27
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Posted - 2014.11.11 09:00:53 -
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Disclaimer: I did not come up with the following quote, and I have no idea who did.
"EVE Online is a social experiment to see if people will pay to have a second job, as long as their cubicle is a spaceship." |

baltec1
Bat Country Goonswarm Federation
13841
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Posted - 2014.11.11 09:05:25 -
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EVE Online, a rappidly improving game.
Join Bat Country today and defend the Glorious Socialist Dictatorship
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Rain6637
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
24293
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Posted - 2014.11.11 09:44:10 -
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I don't. EVE is high on the list of things not worth trying to make people understand
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Dave Stark
7137
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Posted - 2014.11.11 09:52:15 -
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I simply don't bother. |

Eugene Kerner
TunDraGon Cynosural Field Theory.
1416
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Posted - 2014.11.11 10:03:48 -
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Gunrunner1775 wrote:like the subject says.....
for me, some of my friends play those "other" mmo games (i used to) they ask me about eve... this is what i say...
EVE is the most dime dropping - back stabbing - buddy ****** - cut throat - PVP you will ever see... its awsome...
then i go along the lines of .... imagine that dungeon your in with your buddies and you die,.. now imagine that all the gear you are wearing is now GONE cause you died and your left nekkid at your bind point... the look of total shock and horror is priceless
trust no one paranoia rules all fly only what you can afford to loose you will loose...many times you offer him/her a coffee and when he/she takes up the cup to drnk you slap him/her in the face with full power. Then you ask if he/she wants suger and maybe a cookie and repeat the process. Easy.
TunDraGon is recruiting!
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CCP Eterne, 2012
"When in doubt...make a di++k joke."-áRobin Williams - RIP
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Primary This Rifter
4S Corporation Goonswarm Federation
193
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Posted - 2014.11.11 10:06:01 -
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I start by explaining one aspect of the game, then realizing that there's something else I probably should have explained first, then backtrack and keep explaining what I was originally explaining, then realize I was focusing too much on one topic and move to a different one, then realize I needed to explain something else first, then give up and tell them to go read the Wikipedia article.
I just can't summarize this game as much as I try to.
Alt of [redacted on advice from a reputable internet spaceships lawyer]
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Graygor
1kB Realty 1kB Galactic
132487
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Posted - 2014.11.11 10:23:06 -
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Rain6637 wrote:I don't. EVE is high on the list of things not worth trying to make people understand
This pretty much.
Because invariably 'can i get out of my ship and go on the planets' pops up in the first 2 minutes. Every, single, time.
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"I dont think that can happen, you can see Gray has his invuln field on in his portrait." - Commissar "Cake" Kate
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Nami Kumamato
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
313
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Posted - 2014.11.11 11:05:31 -
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Gunrunner1775 wrote:like the subject says.....
for me, some of my friends play those "other" mmo games (i used to) they ask me about eve... this is what i say...
EVE is the most dime dropping - back stabbing - buddy ****** - cut throat - PVP you will ever see... its awsome...
then i go along the lines of .... imagine that dungeon your in with your buddies and you die,.. now imagine that all the gear you are wearing is now GONE cause you died and your left nekkid at your bind point... the look of total shock and horror is priceless
trust no one paranoia rules all fly only what you can afford to loose you will loose...many times
And that's why we don't get new players! Just tell them they have quasi-infinite mining veins, full access to "epix", and the forests are always teaming with boars! Oh not to mention the skills train themselves!
[i]"And now my ship is oh so cloaked and fit
It never felt so good, I never felt so hid"[/i]
- Ramona McCandless, Untitled
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Seven Koskanaiken
The Cult of Personality DARKNESS.
1363
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Posted - 2014.11.11 11:06:55 -
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baltec1 wrote:EVE Online, a rappidly improving game.
It's almost out of beta. |

Square PI
Hedion University Amarr Empire
4
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Posted - 2014.11.11 11:09:26 -
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Easy. Tell them if they like it hard and frustrating, prefer to get spanked and hit they have two choices. One is eve and the second is .... But EVE is the cheaper way.
Somehow EVE is mainly for masochists |

Gully Alex Foyle
Black Fox Marauders Spaceship Bebop
2030
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Posted - 2014.11.11 11:14:00 -
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On the odd (about 1%) chance they're actually interested, I can go on for hours about anything, from suicide ganking to fleet PVP, the potential $ value of losses and the incredibly deep 'economy simulation'.
But otherwise I've learned not to bother.
Make space glamorous!
Is EVE dying or not? Ask the EVE-O Death-o-meter!
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Princess Honneamise
20
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Posted - 2014.11.11 11:21:02 -
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i just tell to my friends :
"You will not be able to survive the tutorial "
and then i link them the famous "learning curve" pic :
http://i.imgur.com/jj16ThL.jpg
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http://eve-moons.com
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Hicksimus
Volatile Instability Resonance.
408
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Posted - 2014.11.11 11:27:31 -
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I don't tell anybody that I play EvE but my coworkers know I game and they were able to determine that I'm an EvE player from my general disposition and inability to correctly handle the party fund.
Recruitment Officer: What type of a pilot are you?
Me: I've been described as a Ray Charles with Parkinsons and a drinking problem.
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Prince Kobol
2354
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Posted - 2014.11.11 11:51:08 -
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I dont have to. All of them have already tried Eve and didn't like it |

Ralph King-Griffin
Lords.Of.Midnight The Devil's Warrior Alliance
6663
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Posted - 2014.11.11 12:03:15 -
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Gunrunner1775 wrote: friends ^^what is this?
"I'm also quite confident that you are laughing
and it's the kind of laugh that gives normal people shivers."
=]I[=
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Jvpiter
Jovelike
0
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Posted - 2014.11.11 12:04:04 -
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I've tried explaining EVE to my friends before, but their idea of a game is on Facebook or their phone and lasts about 5 minutes tops.
Unfortunately, now that I've mentioned it to them, EVE Online has become the reason why I'm hopelessly single.
Could they be right? |

Ralph King-Griffin
Lords.Of.Midnight The Devil's Warrior Alliance
6663
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Posted - 2014.11.11 12:07:19 -
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Jvpiter wrote: I've tried explaining EVE to my friends before, but their idea of a game is on Facebook or their phone and lasts about 5 minutes tops.
Unfortunately, now that I've mentioned it to them, EVE Online has become the reason why I'm hopelessly single.
Could they be right?
Eve can be your mistress, and a harsh unforgiving one at that.
"I'm also quite confident that you are laughing
and it's the kind of laugh that gives normal people shivers."
=]I[=
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Infrequent
Coreli Corporation Ineluctable.
59
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Posted - 2014.11.11 12:17:08 -
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Eugene Kerner wrote:Gunrunner1775 wrote:like the subject says.....
for me, some of my friends play those "other" mmo games (i used to) they ask me about eve... this is what i say...
EVE is the most dime dropping - back stabbing - buddy ****** - cut throat - PVP you will ever see... its awsome...
then i go along the lines of .... imagine that dungeon your in with your buddies and you die,.. now imagine that all the gear you are wearing is now GONE cause you died and your left nekkid at your bind point... the look of total shock and horror is priceless
trust no one paranoia rules all fly only what you can afford to loose you will loose...many times you offer him/her a coffee and when he/she takes up the cup to drink you slap him/her in the face with full power. Then you ask if he/she wants sugar and maybe a cookie and repeat the process. Easy.
This, I really want to do this.
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Snagletooth Johnson
Snagle Material Services CAStabouts
188
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Posted - 2014.11.11 12:20:22 -
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Punch em right in the face...if they don't get up and try to hit you back, then explaining Eve is a waste of time. |

Big Lynx
Chaotic Tranquility Warp to Cyno.
732
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Posted - 2014.11.11 12:28:24 -
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Once upon a time I used to go to sleep, until I discovered Eve Online. |

Jvpiter
Jovelike
0
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Posted - 2014.11.11 12:29:35 -
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Ralph King-Griffin wrote:Eve can be your mistress, and a harsh unforgiving one at that.
At times I feel like Joaquin Phoenix in [i]Her[/]. EVE is intelligent, compelling, and often rather personal. But there is no way in real life to explain this relationship to someone without looking like you're a bit of a loon. |

Steve Wingyip
University of Caille Gallente Federation
0
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Posted - 2014.11.11 12:33:05 -
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Gunrunner1775 wrote:like the subject says.....
for me, some of my friends play those "other" mmo games (i used to) they ask me about eve... this is what i say...
EVE is the most dime dropping - back stabbing - buddy ****** - cut throat - PVP you will ever see... its awsome...
then i go along the lines of .... imagine that dungeon your in with your buddies and you die,.. now imagine that all the gear you are wearing is now GONE cause you died and your left nekkid at your bind point... the look of total shock and horror is priceless
trust no one paranoia rules all fly only what you can afford to loose you will loose...many times
I just link the "Butterfly effect and Casualty" videos to my friends. |

Prince Kobol
2354
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Posted - 2014.11.11 12:45:23 -
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Steve Wingyip wrote:Gunrunner1775 wrote:like the subject says.....
for me, some of my friends play those "other" mmo games (i used to) they ask me about eve... this is what i say...
EVE is the most dime dropping - back stabbing - buddy ****** - cut throat - PVP you will ever see... its awsome...
then i go along the lines of .... imagine that dungeon your in with your buddies and you die,.. now imagine that all the gear you are wearing is now GONE cause you died and your left nekkid at your bind point... the look of total shock and horror is priceless
trust no one paranoia rules all fly only what you can afford to loose you will loose...many times I just link the "Butterfly effect and Casualty" videos to my friends.
Do then turn around and say that the game is nothing like those videos? |

WhyYouHeffToBeMad IsOnlyGame
2919
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Posted - 2014.11.11 13:26:13 -
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"Imagine flying a spaceship with no rules"
A.K.A Hodor Von Grootenberg
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Lloyd Roses
Blue-Fire
739
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Posted - 2014.11.11 14:33:30 -
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A psychopath simulator with the general goal of inflicting more financial damage than you receive.
"I honestly thought I was in lowsec"
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Gully Alex Foyle
Black Fox Marauders Spaceship Bebop
2031
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Posted - 2014.11.11 15:06:54 -
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Jvpiter wrote:Ralph King-Griffin wrote:Eve can be your mistress, and a harsh unforgiving one at that. At times I feel like Joaquin Phoenix in Her. EVE is intelligent, compelling, and often rather personal. But there is no way in real life to explain this relationship to someone without looking like you're a bit of a loon. That's probably because we actually are a bit looney.
Make space glamorous!
Is EVE dying or not? Ask the EVE-O Death-o-meter!
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Debora Tsung
The Investment Bankers Guild
1331
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Posted - 2014.11.11 15:49:02 -
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D+¬j+á-vu... 
Wasn't this thread already a few years old when I first posted in the forums?
Stupidity should be a bannable offense.
Also This --> https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=216699
Please stop making "afk cloak" threads, thanks in advance.
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Chribba
Otherworld Enterprises Otherworld Empire
13195
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Posted - 2014.11.11 15:50:58 -
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One simply doesn't. It needs to be experienced. So perhaps best explained with a Buddy Invite?
/c
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flaming phantom
T.R.I.A.D Ushra'Khan
43
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Posted - 2014.11.11 15:55:20 -
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If I try to explain what I like about eve the most I mostly touch up on the topics of space comabt, a single shard, player run economy, actual loss when you lose your ship, and how there is no overall level and how xp accrues in real time.
There might be a couple other main points, but those are the things I love about EVE. That being said, most people aren't interested in it, so I don't really talk about it very often. I have 1 friend who I managed to convince to play, and he is still subscribed, but he only logs in to change his skills. I think the game os jsut to overwhelming for him, every instance of pvp I try to get him into is over before he even manages to get on grid.
All great men have mustaches
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Jvpiter
Jovelike
4
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Posted - 2014.11.11 15:56:16 -
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Chribba wrote:One simply doesn't. It needs to be experienced. So perhaps best explained with a Buddy Invite?
/c
One should never let a PLEX come between friends. |

Ralph King-Griffin
Lords.Of.Midnight The Devil's Warrior Alliance
6665
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Posted - 2014.11.11 16:14:27 -
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Jvpiter wrote:Chribba wrote:One simply doesn't. It needs to be experienced. So perhaps best explained with a Buddy Invite?
/c One should never let a PLEX come between friends. if your friend puts a plex where you can take it , he doesn't deserve it.
"I'm also quite confident that you are laughing
and it's the kind of laugh that gives normal people shivers."
=]I[=
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Gallowmere Rorschach
Enlightened Industries Goonswarm Federation
804
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Posted - 2014.11.11 16:16:42 -
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Unfortunately, I am too honest, and I know the people asking a bit too well. My usual response is something like, "you shattered your monitor over getting spawn camped in battlegrounds in WoW...you have absolutely no business playing Eve". |

Syn Shi
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
55
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Posted - 2014.11.11 16:26:41 -
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I invite them to go out somewhere and meet me there.
On their way there I have my real friends waiting to beat them up and take their stuff.
When they show up I tell them its their fault for trusting me.
Then I post a video of them getting beat up so other Eve vets can laugh.
Then buy another throw away character to do it again.
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DaReaper
Net 7
1220
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Posted - 2014.11.11 16:35:36 -
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I usually say "You have heard of WoW yes? Well its WoW in space, except of running around and kill things with sticks then level up, you shoot crap with guns. No level system, real time training, and its open world." usually by that point there eyes have glazed over and that ends that.
OMG Comet Mining idea!!! Comet Mining!
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Sebastor Cane
The Outlet
180
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Posted - 2014.11.11 17:32:16 -
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I always tell people that EVE online is a game for people who cry themselves to sleep at night.
Im feeling much better thanks :) |

Mara Pahrdi
The Order of Anoyia
851
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Posted - 2014.11.11 18:11:17 -
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None of my friends play mmos, so no good trying.
I could try and explain it to my mom (82). But she'd want to play and would delight in scamming me out of my stuff, awox me or do whatever one can do in EVE to another. It would be lots of fun but absolutely not casual anymore .
Remove insurance.
This thread is the reason, why CCP should stop advertising any aspect of EVE PvE
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Trevor Dalech
Adeptus Assassinorum Silent Eviction
58
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Posted - 2014.11.11 18:50:08 -
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Depends on the friend, and their interests, I usually just say i'm a space pirate, and leave it at that. |

Jur Tissant
The TERRA Guardians of Serenity
291
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Posted - 2014.11.11 19:19:07 -
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EVE Online is a massively multiplayer online sociopathy simulator. |

Lucas Kell
Internet Terrorists SpaceMonkey's Alliance
4426
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Posted - 2014.11.11 19:28:03 -
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I say: It's an addictive game which many claim is dark or hardcore but is actually one of the easiest games there is. It's got space in it. You probably won't like it.
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NIFTYGetAtMe
State Protectorate Caldari State
22
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Posted - 2014.11.11 20:11:40 -
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It's simple dude: Autism. |

ashley Eoner
359
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Posted - 2014.11.11 23:45:12 -
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I explain it to friends as an oldschool space based MMORPG with an interface straight out of 2005 and players that think they are special solely because they play the game. The learning curve is easy and the gameplay is more forgivable then the hard MMORPGS out there. |

Rain6639
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
3236
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Posted - 2014.11.12 01:10:45 -
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Graygor wrote:Rain6637 wrote:I don't. EVE is high on the list of things not worth trying to make people understand This pretty much. Because invariably 'can i get out of my ship and go on the planets' pops up in the first 2 minutes. Every, single, time. the last time I mentioned EVE was this past week. the guy started talking about it in general terms as if he knew all about it, because his girlfriend was there and he's a wannabe hipster film major.
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somedudeinaship
Star Whorz
42
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Posted - 2014.11.12 01:13:40 -
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Why would you try to explain that you play a game in which skills must sometimes be trained for months or even up to a year before you can do something? I know most would likely look at you like you were all nuts. Who would play such a game? |

Rain6637
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
24341
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Posted - 2014.11.12 02:59:06 -
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we might be autists but at least we don't have ADD.
I do, however, happen to find great enjoyment riding bicycles.
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Omar Alharazaad
Lords.Of.Midnight The Devil's Warrior Alliance
738
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Posted - 2014.11.12 04:45:33 -
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It's a space sim for butthurt armchair psychoanalysts who are just waiting for that big break.
Also, most of my friends already know about EVE, and their reactions tend to waver between horror and arousal. I have messed up friends... I should have listened to my DT's. |

Unsuccessful At Everything
The Troll Bridge
17590
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Posted - 2014.11.12 04:53:51 -
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I tell them this:
Eve is a game where your experience may vary depending on your attitude going into it. people with a good sense of HTFU will find it rather pleasant , while those who dont will simply feel as if they are trying to pass a pinecone through their lower GI tract.
Since the cessation of their usefulness is imminent, may I appropriate your belongings?
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Raviel Oxidans
Uranus Intruders Test Alliance Please Ignore
2
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Posted - 2014.11.12 04:54:18 -
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to my friends? those which play candy crush and farm heros and all that ****?
I dont bother in that.
But if i had a friend interested in real videogames, i would explain that Eve is a game of spaceships and have a very intensive atmosphere and of course, is very hard to learn to play. |

Claud Tiberius
Fidelas Constans
79
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Posted - 2014.11.12 04:55:39 -
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An MMO in-the-future space sim in 3rd Person, with boring pve, CoD skins, time walls and pay-to-win or (if you don't pay-to-win) grinding.
Once upon a time the Golem had a Raven hull and it looked good. Then it transformed into a plataduck. The end.
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Josef Djugashvilis
2665
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Posted - 2014.11.12 08:17:23 -
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somedudeinaship wrote:Why would you try to explain that you play a game in which skills must sometimes be trained for months or even up to a year before you can do something? I know most would likely look at you like you were all nuts. Who would play such a game?
Quite a few of us as it happens.
This is not a signature.
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McChicken Combo HalfMayo
The Happy Meal
60
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Posted - 2014.11.12 08:27:51 -
[52] - Quote
Whenever I try they react, "so it's WoW in space".

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Luwc
Confederation of Independent Contractors Swamphole
290
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Posted - 2014.11.12 08:59:29 -
[53] - Quote
Imagine World of Tanks in space. Less interactive and playing arty all the time.
http://hugelolcdn.com/i/267520.gif
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Xtreem
Knockaround Guys Inc. Sin City Coalition
216
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Posted - 2014.11.12 10:44:15 -
[54] - Quote
A spread sheet with decent graphics |

ggodhsup
Raider corp
6
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Posted - 2014.11.12 12:31:35 -
[55] - Quote
really hard....you probably wouldnt like it. |

stoicfaux
5403
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Posted - 2014.11.12 12:49:09 -
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Two words: Venn Diagram
List the qualities of a friend in real life and draw a circle around the set. Now list the qualities of a friend in EVE and draw a circle around that set.
Do the circles overlap? If yes, then the question is moot because you're probably too busy staying alive, avoiding the authorities, and/or are too paranoid in real life to be playing EVE in the first place.
WASABI: Warp Acceleration System Ancillary Boost Injected(Gäó)
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somedudeinaship
Star Whorz
43
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Posted - 2014.11.12 13:34:08 -
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Rain6637 wrote:we might be autists but at least we don't have ADD.
I do, however, happen to find great enjoyment riding bicycles.
Just wondering if this comment was directed at me? Or was it meant to be directed at the rest of the gaming population in general in the way it was worded? I ask because sometimes people make these kinds of comments towards someone intentionally while not addressing them specifically which usually results in confusion. |

Jenn aSide
Smokin Aces.
8982
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Posted - 2014.11.12 13:45:33 -
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Josef Djugashvilis wrote:somedudeinaship wrote:Why would you try to explain that you play a game in which skills must sometimes be trained for months or even up to a year before you can do something? I know most would likely look at you like you were all nuts. Who would play such a game? Quite a few of us as it happens.
Compared to the 3 billion human beings who have internet access, there aren't that many of us lol.
This is why I don't bother explain anything about EVE to people. The odds of finding someone who fits into the profile of the few thousands of us who play EVE (again compared to 3,000,000,000 people on Earth with internet access) are probably lower than finding someone who loves listening to recorded Tibetan Goat Herder chanting (which is oddly quite funky once you get used to all the grunting).
I live EVE, that's all anyone really needs to know. |

Rain6637
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
24437
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Posted - 2014.11.12 16:10:05 -
[59] - Quote
somedude, I was riffing on this comment
NIFTYGetAtMe wrote:It's simple dude: Autism.
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Toshiro Hasegawa
Phoenix Rising Incorporated
107
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Posted - 2014.11.12 16:20:07 -
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I have been trying to explain it to people since 2002 .. and i think have mostly failed miserably. - glazed eyes and quick subject changes.
but over time i have drilled it down to its salient points.
Its an MMORPG set in space - you dont walk around - you fly ships. Its a sanbox and not a "theme park" MMO (explain wth that means) Its heavily PvP orientated but with still alot of PvE (explain PvP v. PvE) Its single shard (explain what what means - compare it to other games) It has conquerable space .. and 10s of thousands of players group together to fight over it. It has a huge almost entirely player driven economy - which is complex enough to be studied by economists. It has a high death penalty. - which makes PvP really exciting unlike all other MMO. Its been going for over a decade.
History is the study of change.
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Felicity Love
Imperium Galactic Navy
2162
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Posted - 2014.11.12 17:16:48 -
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"... have you heard about this great feature called Time Dilation? Ah, well, it's alot like grid-lock, at rush hour, in any sizeable city with really poor public transit planning and no clue whatsoever to do when more and more drivers jump on the freeway each day. Good luck with that."
"... ah, yeah, there's this really great combat tradition where 20 or 30 guys will shoot somebody who can't shoot back. Yep, ganking. Yep, sure, it's like 'ganking' in any other MMO... except in EVE it's considered the 'gold standard' for PVP. Cool, eh ? "
"EVE is dying." -- The Four Forum Trolls of the Apocalypse.-á-á ( Pick four, any four. They all smell. -á)
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Jenn aSide
Smokin Aces.
8988
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Posted - 2014.11.12 17:34:16 -
[62] - Quote
Felicity Love wrote: "... ah, yeah, there's this really great combat tradition where 20 or 30 guys will shoot somebody who can't shoot back. Yep, ganking. Yep, sure, it's like 'ganking' in any other MMO... except in EVE it's considered the 'gold standard' for PVP. Cool, eh ? "
Screw how other MMOs does it, This is EVE.
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Domanique Altares
Rifterlings Point Blank Alliance
3403
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Posted - 2014.11.12 17:37:42 -
[63] - Quote
I don't have to explain EVE to my friends. Most of them have played it, discovered the bad, and retired to the pony farm over on Failheap.
"i advice you to go spit on the back of someone else because you are fall on the wrong horse." - Meio Rayliegh
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Erin Crawford
337
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Posted - 2014.11.12 18:27:39 -
[64] - Quote
Gunrunner1775 wrote:How do you explain EVE to friends
wooosh, biep-biep, bzzzap, rat-tat-tat, zap-zap-zap-zap, aaaargh, KA-BOOOM, booohooohooo, HAHAHA, Cha-ching, wooosh...
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Notorious Fellon
351
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Posted - 2014.11.12 18:53:49 -
[65] - Quote
"EVE is everything WoW isn't"
If they ask for more, then I continue. If they look like a deer in headlights, I walk away slowly with my hand on my wallet.
Trust no one.
Crime, it is not a "career", it is a lifestyle.
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Shizuken
Venerated Stars
304
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Posted - 2014.11.12 20:11:42 -
[66] - Quote
I refer to it as "Sociopaths Online.". Then they ask me if its " that stupid game where people destroyed $300k worth of internet spaceships..." |

Aurelius Valentius
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
382
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Posted - 2014.11.12 20:24:06 -
[67] - Quote
All my friends are in EVE... you have non-EVE friends?  |

Rain6637
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
24477
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Posted - 2014.11.12 20:46:10 -
[68] - Quote
I'm going to start telling people it's WoW in space and then get them to join because people actually play WoW.
President of the Commissar Kate Fanclub | Twitter |-ámk.III | Imgur
| Evening Games Club: Casino concept redefined |
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Aurelius Valentius
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
384
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Posted - 2014.11.12 23:05:05 -
[69] - Quote
Rain6637 wrote:I'm going to start telling people it's WoW in space and then get them to join because people actually play WoW.
- Shameless KB stuffing!... I see what you are up to there! |

Rain6637
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
24498
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Posted - 2014.11.12 23:18:39 -
[70] - Quote
if they play WoW, is baiting them for a referral bonus anything to feel guilty over?
President of the Commissar Kate Fanclub | Twitter |-ámk.III | Imgur
| Evening Games Club: Casino concept redefined |
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Commissar Kate
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
88199
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Posted - 2014.11.12 23:20:30 -
[71] - Quote
Rain6637 wrote:if they play WoW, is baiting them for a referral bonus anything to feel guilty over?
Don't feel guilty for scamming people into a terrible game. It's their own damn fault. 
Why can't I wear that? || My Fanclub
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Rain6637
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
24498
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Posted - 2014.11.12 23:22:35 -
[72] - Quote
just mention casually that people say EVE is hard to understand, but they're the dumb ones (but you'll be ok).
President of the Commissar Kate Fanclub | Twitter |-ámk.III | Imgur
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Delban Crendalion
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
7
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Posted - 2014.11.12 23:24:47 -
[73] - Quote
Gunrunner1775 wrote:
then i go along the lines of .... imagine that dungeon your in with your buddies and you die,.. now imagine that all the gear you are wearing is now GONE cause you died and your left nekkid at your bind point... the look of total shock and horror is priceless
Most of my friends played Everquest in the late 90's, so we already know what it's like to lose all your shiznit every time you die...
"Has anybody seen my corpse??"
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BrundleMeth
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
291
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Posted - 2014.11.12 23:41:26 -
[74] - Quote
I don't have any real life friends... Not really interested in hanging with people who want to talk about their kids and grand kids all the time....and I certainly don't want any kids in my house...
I have a few "work" friends but we don't socialize outside of work hours... |

Gunrunner1775
Interstellar Engineering and Electronics INC
37
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Posted - 2014.11.13 00:23:26 -
[75] - Quote
LOL ive actualy enjoyed reading all the posts here, its been quite entertaining, thanks all |

Omar Alharazaad
Lords.Of.Midnight The Devil's Warrior Alliance
751
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Posted - 2014.11.13 04:27:22 -
[76] - Quote
BrundleMeth wrote:I don't have any real life friends... Not really interested in hanging with people who want to talk about their kids and grand kids all the time....and I certainly don't want any kids in my house...
I have a few "work" friends but we don't socialize outside of work hours... My RL friends know I have a strict 'No Loinspawn' policy when it comes to my place. My work associates are the fun ones to talk to EVE about, as after about ten minutes or so they're looking at me like I'm the crazy cat lady from the Simpsons... and they're probably right. |

Arronicus
Fusion Enterprises Ltd Brothers of Tangra
1256
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Posted - 2014.11.13 05:48:33 -
[77] - Quote
"It's about spaceships and trade and diplomacy. It's really boring, you wouldn't like it."
If they inquire further, I show them the zero punctuation video.
If beyond that, they show interest in the game, I'll explain it to them. Those two first steps really save a lot of time and frustration, for both parties. |

Lady Areola Fappington
2336
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Posted - 2014.11.13 06:07:14 -
[78] - Quote
Rain6637 wrote:just mention casually that people say EVE is hard to understand, but they're the dumb ones (but you'll be ok).
This is basically my technique for getting friends to play Eve.
"Ohh, Eve, yeah...well, it's kinda a difficult game. Hard to understand. Pretty sure you won't get it."
It isn't really hard, but I think there are customers that you can lose in a good way and there's customers that you can lose in a bad way. If people come in and fundamentally don't like EVE Online, then I think that might be a good way of losing customers. . -á--CCP Soundwave
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Kaely Tanniss
Aurora Novae Aetatis
63
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Posted - 2014.11.13 07:49:22 -
[79] - Quote
I just tell them to try the trial...if they don't get it, don't like it, or can't handle it...EVE isn't for them anyways 
If I had a nickel for every time someone said women don't play eve, I'd have a bag of nickels to whack the next person who said it..
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Arla Sarain
107
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Posted - 2014.11.13 09:30:53 -
[80] - Quote
Gunrunner1775 wrote:How do you explain EVE to friends It's like glorified IMVU. |

Celina Shi
Intergalactic systems
2
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Posted - 2014.11.13 11:32:27 -
[81] - Quote
Im 37 years old, i dont tell my friends that i like to fly internet spaceships.. |

Yogsoloth
Percussive Diplomacy
161
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Posted - 2014.11.13 16:22:53 -
[82] - Quote
I tell them it's where daddy shoots people and takes thier things.
Then my 6 year old looks at me and says... "Youre a bad guy ? ... I would still help you daddy" 
At which point I smile and reply "That's my boy"  |

Dark Hominy
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
23
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Posted - 2014.11.13 16:40:32 -
[83] - Quote
I tell them about the beautiful nebula and other outer space imagery. How cool the stations look. How much fun mining is. The awesome hallway on the other side of the CQ door. I tell them about the hyper-realistic submarine physics. I describe the blue doughnut and about bored null sec denizens. How not to expect a fair fight. NO really, make sure it isn't fair. I then tell them they probably won't like the game because it doesn't suit their personality.
And finally, if they survive the trial I say, "Good night. Good work. Sleep well. I'll most likely pod you in the morning." |

Syn Shi
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
61
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Posted - 2014.11.13 18:28:00 -
[84] - Quote
I show them the new Twitch stream gambling site.........Eve pvp. |

Herzav
Perkone Caldari State
22
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Posted - 2014.11.13 18:43:34 -
[85] - Quote
EvE is a fickle mistress I daresay, I have attempted to explain EvE in many ways to my friends, yet I have never managed to convince anyone to try it.
Best MMO of the market? ''El Oh El, we got wow'' ''Oh its too much of a bother to try'' ''Oh I don't like space very much'' ''Oh its just your generic MMO'' ''Oh I like FPS because I am too braindead to use my head'' '' Oh you are too old to play vidya games''
I sometimes wonder if it has something to do with age, I have played a lot of MMO's and video games since I was not-so-small brat, I guess I'm just burned out of the same crap ever since ever.
Am I turning into a hipster? Every single person I know plays the same yearly generic game yet I am here being a bitter ******* about not having real life friends to play with, I am forced to rely solely on the players of EvE for content.
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Prince Kobol
2356
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Posted - 2014.11.13 19:25:50 -
[86] - Quote
Here is the thing, most people I know who play MMO's all started off with games like UO, EQ, WOW etc, like most of us here.
The reason they do not like Eve, is because they feel there is no end goal.
Let me try and explain.
In your traditional MMO you have a level cap to aim for and group content to accomplish. To do this you have to grind virtues, armour, weapons blah blah blah.
Now most of the people I know play 2 - 3 MMO's at the same time. Once they complete all the relevant content they move onto the next game,and then to the next game and usually by that time the first game will have received new content and the process starts again.
The problem they all have with Eve is that they do not see any end goal.
I can point out that there are many things they could do but they just reply what is the point.
What is the point for doing x, y and z to earn isk so they can PvP if it doesn't accomplish anything.
I point out that they can do FW and you can earn isk whilst you PvP. Great, what happens in FW they ask..
Well you PvP, there is no real accomplishment, doesn't really mean anything.. they do not like this.
What about living in null sec... erm, lets skip that one..
It is hard to convince people who are use to working towards a goal to play a game that has no real goals for a small group. |

Herzav
Perkone Caldari State
22
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Posted - 2014.11.13 19:42:15 -
[87] - Quote
Prince Kobol wrote:Here is the thing, most people I know who play MMO's all started off with games like UO, EQ, WOW etc, like most of us here.
The reason they do not like Eve, is because they feel there is no end goal.
Let me try and explain.
In your traditional MMO you have a level cap to aim for and group content to accomplish. To do this you have to grind virtues, armour, weapons blah blah blah.
Now most of the people I know play 2 - 3 MMO's at the same time. Once they complete all the relevant content they move onto the next game,and then to the next game and usually by that time the first game will have received new content and the process starts again.
The problem they all have with Eve is that they do not see any end goal.
I can point out that there are many things they could do but they just reply what is the point.
What is the point for doing x, y and z to earn isk so they can PvP if it doesn't accomplish anything.
I point out that they can do FW and you can earn isk whilst you PvP. Great, what happens in FW they ask..
Well you PvP, there is no real accomplishment, doesn't really mean anything.. they do not like this.
What about living in null sec... erm, lets skip that one..
It is hard to convince people who are use to working towards a goal to play a game that has no real goals for a small group.
That seems like the mentality nowadays, but what happened to making your own fun?
Different mindset I guess, but I think the ''make your own fun'' mindset is for the old-ish people while the ''themepark'' content is for the younguns.
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Prince Kobol
2357
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Posted - 2014.11.13 20:10:50 -
[88] - Quote
Herzav wrote:[ That seems like the mentality nowadays, but what happened to making your own fun?
Different mindset I guess, but I think the ''make your own fun'' mindset is for the old-ish people while the ''themepark'' content is for the younguns.
Also, how the hell does one make time for 2 to 3 mmos at the same time? I find that even one single game is enough to hold all of my time.
Variety is the spice of life but you need content as well to keep you full, what use is a lot of flavor but no full belly?
Personally I think age has very little to do with it. All people I know who do not like Eve are 30+ with families.
There is lot to be said making your own fun but on the flip side Eve like all games is repetitive. For some people blowing space ships with no real end goal can get tiresome quickly.
As for playing all those games, it doesn't take much to burn though new expansion packs when you are not starting from fresh. |

Firestorm Delta
Aphotic Machina
41
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Posted - 2014.11.13 20:59:15 -
[89] - Quote
Prince Kobol wrote:Herzav wrote:[ That seems like the mentality nowadays, but what happened to making your own fun?
Different mindset I guess, but I think the ''make your own fun'' mindset is for the old-ish people while the ''themepark'' content is for the younguns.
Also, how the hell does one make time for 2 to 3 mmos at the same time? I find that even one single game is enough to hold all of my time.
Variety is the spice of life but you need content as well to keep you full, what use is a lot of flavor but no full belly? Personally I think age has very little to do with it. All people I know who do not like Eve are 30+ with families. There is lot to be said making your own fun but on the flip side Eve like all games is repetitive. For some people blowing space ships with no real end goal can get tiresome quickly. As for playing all those games, it doesn't take much to burn though new expansion packs when you are not starting from fresh.
EVE may be repetitive but at least the numbers always go up. I've played a number of other MMOs, and enjoyed them for quite some time, but eventually I realized that the level bar wasn't enough to motivate me.
In EVE I'm a Care Bear at the moment largely due to not having a lot of time to play. Yet at any point I can undock in some random ship, make 20 jumps in a random direction, and blow up some random player without having to fuss with timers or rules. It doesn't even matter how long they've been playing or what corp they might be in. True such actions could have massive consequences but it's much more organic than any PvP I've done in other MMOs.
Plus if I'm going to spend days grinding to buy things that cost massive amounts of money, I'd much rather own an epic space ship than a piece of armor.
For me I probably wouldn't try to explain EVE, I'd get them to set up a trial character and throw them head first into the game. If they survive that then they'll be fine. |

Mr M
Sebiestor Tribe
431
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Posted - 2014.11.14 01:50:25 -
[90] - Quote
"EVE is kind of like this."
Then I tell them I'll double their money if they give me a $-í00.
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CCP Darwin
C C P C C P Alliance
192

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Posted - 2014.11.14 02:26:22 -
[91] - Quote
Celina Shi wrote:Im 37 years old, i dont tell my friends that i like to fly internet spaceships..
I'm 43, and most of my friends who would play a computer game at all find EVE kind of interesting!
Aside from explaining it in the context of my work, I've never felt awkward about talking about playing EVE. The way I'd explain it to friends or family is that it's a space-themed computer game with a huge world, shared by thousands of people, that is all about the conflict between self-organized teams of players.
Making clear that the fun of the game is essentially social contact between teammates is something that even the people I know who don't play video games understand.
CCP Darwin GÇó Senior Technical Artist, EVE Online GÇó @mark_wilkins
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Mr M
Sebiestor Tribe
431
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Posted - 2014.11.14 02:45:56 -
[92] - Quote
CCP Darwin wrote:Celina Shi wrote:Im 37 years old, i dont tell my friends that i like to fly internet spaceships.. I'm 43, and most of my friends who would play a computer game at all find EVE kind of interesting! Aside from explaining it in the context of my work, I've never felt awkward about talking about playing EVE. The way I'd explain it to friends or family is that it's a space-themed computer game with a huge world, shared by thousands of people, that is all about the conflict between self-organized teams of players. Making clear that the fun of the game is essentially social contact between teammates is something that even the people I know who don't play video games understand. ...and then you pod them?
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Cannibal Kane
Cannibal Empire
4418
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Posted - 2014.11.14 08:15:04 -
[93] - Quote
I did that to a buddy that joined eve. He did not know it was me at the time.
I actively hunt people I meet in RL I know play EVE, pod them and then say hello and buy them a beer.
"Kane is the End Boss of Highsec." -Psychotic Monk
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Scipio Artelius
The Vendunari End of Life
21273
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Posted - 2014.11.14 09:53:54 -
[94] - Quote
Cannibal Kane wrote:I actively hunt people I meet in RL I know play EVE, pod them and then say hello and buy them a beer. You should go to Fanfest and see how many people avoid meeting you (then hunt them too).
Come Win At Eve - Join The Vendunari
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Adrie Atticus
Shadows of Rebellion The Bastion
534
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Posted - 2014.11.14 10:03:39 -
[95] - Quote
I told 5 people in total the following:
"Smallest thing you can fly is about 20 meters in diameter, largest thing you can fly is about 12km long, it goes permanently boom if you screw up and you can get 51 days of game time on my behalf."
2/5 took the bait, one stayed for 6+ years, other one is just playing Skill Queue: Online at the moment. |

Jenn aSide
Smokin Aces.
9008
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Posted - 2014.11.14 13:57:36 -
[96] - Quote
Adrie Atticus wrote:I told 5 people in total the following:
"Smallest thing you can fly is about 20 meters in diameter, largest thing you can fly is about 12km long, it goes permanently boom if you screw up and you can get 51 days of game time on my behalf."
2/5 took the bait, one stayed for 6+ years, other one is just playing Skill Queue: Online at the moment.
Your record is better than mine, right now I'm 2 for 8.
The 6 that tried it and didn't continue still ask me about what's going on in the game all the time, 1 of those comes back ever now and again every couple years. So maybe call is 2.5/ for 8 lol.
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Mysa
EVIL PLANKTON
34
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Posted - 2014.11.14 16:22:46 -
[97] - Quote
I say its like you know beeing sucked into one of those hypnotic space vaginas and instead of trying to escape you sit quietly alone complaining about everthing and and everbody not even trying to make it out of there. No one ever bother whit it..
SoloFoLife!
-KEKE the Merlin wonder
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Gaellia Bonaventure
Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire
2585
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Posted - 2014.11.14 18:38:42 -
[98] - Quote
Celina Shi wrote:Im 37 years old, i dont tell my friends that i like to fly internet spaceships..
Then tell them you play an economic simulator because that would actually be closer to the truth.
Bring your possibles.
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Aurelius Valentius
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
394
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Posted - 2014.11.14 20:21:15 -
[99] - Quote
You could use the work analogy:
It's like RL work where sociopaths and normal people interact daily in a real-time perpetual environment, but it's different because it's on a level playing field as gun-play is encouraged. |

Burl en Daire
M.O.M.S. Corp
76
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Posted - 2014.11.14 23:37:55 -
[100] - Quote
This was on Twitter the other day. Made me laugh some, I may be a carebear but I'm not a blonde.
https://twitter.com/EVE_CSM/status/532783223731154944
Yesterday's weirdness is tomorrow's reason why.
Hunter S. Thompson
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Nolak Ataru
Incursion Osprey Replacement Fund LLC
262
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Posted - 2014.11.15 20:30:21 -
[101] - Quote
Think WoW. Now remove GM / DEV accountability to the playerbase, add spaceships, and add broken SOV mechanics. |

baltec1
Bat Country Goonswarm Federation
13912
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Posted - 2014.11.15 20:38:57 -
[102] - Quote
EVE is Megacity one only in space and more violent.
Join Bat Country today and defend the Glorious Socialist Dictatorship
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Xorth Adimus
Blackwater USA Inc. Pandemic Legion
51
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Posted - 2014.11.15 21:15:32 -
[103] - Quote
I don't:
1. Eve also seems to attract everyone on earth with an antisocial personality disorder, although this number is still actually small, there are just enough of these special snowflakes to make eve .. special. 2. People who have played eve have likely quit. 3. People who play eve will generally be full of hate towards players I associate with. 4. People who don't play eve would 99% be scared of the entire concept if you took the time to explain it to them or be a secret special snowflake. |

Tau Cabalander
Retirement Retreat Working Stiffs
4339
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Posted - 2014.11.15 22:58:24 -
[104] - Quote
One of my favorite descriptions: Could anyone explain - like I'm five - what Eve is? I don't play PC games or MMOs but I am absolutely fascinated by Eve and what is going on with the big battle.
Favorite promos: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j_Ski9g3as4 |

Harrison Tato
Yamato Holdings
188
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Posted - 2014.11.16 07:51:03 -
[105] - Quote
VoIP with space themed wallpaper. |

Mike Adoulin
Adolescent Radioactive Pirate Hamsters
988
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Posted - 2014.11.16 08:07:34 -
[106] - Quote
Sometimes people ask me about EVE.
I tell them if they want to play a game where you can lie, cheat (to a certain extent...), steal everything that isn't locked up and nailed down, and scam your little rabid gerbil guts out, then it's the game for you.
Then I mention it has spaceships and stuff.
So yeah, I pretty much compare it to law school.
Everything in EVE is a trap.
And if it isn't, it's your job to make it a trap...:)
You want to know what immorality in EVE Online looks like? Look no further than Ripard "Jester" Teg.
Chribba is the Chuck Norris of EVE.
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Savesti Kyrsst
CTRL-Q Iron Oxide.
15
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Posted - 2014.11.16 15:35:02 -
[107] - Quote
I just explain it's a game about making nerds angry. |

Jarod Garamonde
Sardaukar Merc Guild General Tso's Alliance
2131
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Posted - 2014.11.16 16:08:03 -
[108] - Quote
Explaining EVE to family members that don't "get it":
Cursory Guide to the Different Races in EVE Online: Gallente: Descended from Italians, Greeks, Portuguese, and French, with a government styled exactly like the one modern-day American Libertarians want. Pretty much laid-back space hedonists, but will jack you up, oldschool if you actually manage to upset them.
Caldari: The fascist/corporatist result of the Japanese and Germans piling into a spaceship and setting off to a distant solar system. Everyone knows their place and stays in it. Unfeeling and driven by only two things: money and f**king HATING the Gallenteans.
Minmatar: Black Vikings. I'm not even joking. Seriously one of the coolest concepts for a sci-fi race, EVER. Using archaic technology and ships that look like they were pieced together in a junkyard, they still manage to routinely rip the other races' faces off and wear them.... as long as the fight doesn't last TOO long.
Amarr: What would happen if you crossed Catholics and Muslims, let them do all the things they actually want to do with society, and then gave them laser beams? The Amarr. Seriously scary culture. Good thing their ships suck ass.
Jovians: You can't play as these guys. Genetically modified badasses that could utterly steamroll the other races if they weren't so busy being depressed and reclusive. Originally conceptualized as actual aliens, but later toned down to just transhuman walking science labs. The developer employees used to all have characters of the Jovian race, but that inexplicably got tossed out a few years ago. Presumably because some players just will not stop asking "so when do we get to play as Jovians?" --------------------------------------------------------------------------
That moment when you realize the crazy lady with all the cats was right...
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Anke Eyrou
Hades Sisters
44
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Posted - 2014.11.16 16:40:40 -
[109] - Quote
I don't, I let the other half do it.
I expect to get this post deleted or locked. So much for freedom of expression.
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Zedutchman
The Miners of Hyperion
0
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Posted - 2014.11.16 20:48:05 -
[110] - Quote
It's what real life would be if people were really immortal.......
Everyone trying to get rich by ripping each other off...
Or people just killing each other all the time, because it doesn't really matter..
But mostly people trying to get rich by killing each other all the time. |

Seifer Al'Masy
Adhocracy Incorporated Adhocracy
20
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Posted - 2014.11.16 22:08:54 -
[111] - Quote
Like someone once said....
"Eve is a cardboard box, half a million players in it, and no rules" |

Velarra
330
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Posted - 2014.11.17 03:24:04 -
[112] - Quote
You know that Easter egg flight sim that was in Excell? Or was it Open Office? Yeah. Now turn it into an mmo with spaceships. |

Celina Shi
Intergalactic systems
3
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Posted - 2014.12.09 20:37:31 -
[113] - Quote
Now that the new trailer is out things are changing :) people are like : Damn, this is the game you have played for years?? I got my mates girlfriends liking this now. |

inta Vakaria
Orbital Offence
14
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Posted - 2014.12.09 21:03:53 -
[114] - Quote
Eve is an online chat room, with a spaceship mini game that got out of hand. |

BoBoZoBo
Paragon Fury Tactical Narcotics Team
504
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Posted - 2014.12.09 21:08:50 -
[115] - Quote
Show them the EVE IS REAL video.
Primary Test Subject GÇó SmackTalker Elite
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Altirius Saldiaro
Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire
193
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Posted - 2014.12.09 21:23:08 -
[116] - Quote
Its a Click Fest |

ISD Ezwal
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
2874
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Posted - 2014.12.09 21:39:15 -
[117] - Quote
Josef Djugashvilis wrote:I have tried many, many times.
My friends just tell me to be my age (59) and stop playing a kids game...
Your friends sadly have no idea. I can tell you I know quite a few that are older than you that play this game. One of them is even on my team (no, it's not me).
Virtually all my real life friends (regardless of age) that are interested in Science Fiction and online gaming already play EvE.... The selling points have mostly been 'hardcore SF'', 'difficult' and 'deep'.
ISD Ezwal
Vice Admiral
Community Communication Liaisons (CCLs)
Interstellar Services Department
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Phoenix Jones
Isogen 5
970
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Posted - 2014.12.09 22:36:07 -
[118] - Quote
I have to show them videos to really explain it.
Used to be this one
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=0QhJkGhYG1s
When they ask what the community is like, I show them this great guy and how even older people play
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=bHLdYVELWrQ
When they ask how fleets and cons are I show them this
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=NyPyh9Qtawk (Warning language and reading)
If they ask about harassment, I usually show them a video from a eve famous person wearing a Harry potter hat, and how they were dealt with.
If they ask why the heck they should bother. I say it's for moments like this.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=AdfFnTt2UT0
Yaay!!!!
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AeonOfTime
Syrkos Technologies Joint Venture Conglomerate
60
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Posted - 2014.12.09 22:49:13 -
[119] - Quote
Sadly I don't have any friends that fit the EVE profile, most don't even touch computers on a regular basis. When I tell them that I've been playing EVE for over 7 years, I can see that they have trouble understanding how that is even possible.
To explain what it is about, I usually explain what attracted me in the first place: a scifi game that lets you fly a huge selection of ships, and more or less do as you please in the huge universe to explore. You can find some nice asteroids to mine and make that your business, fight against NPCs, join player-run groups and join massive player fights, become a trader in a thriving and cutthroat economy, manufacture almost any item usable in the game, explore deep space and wormholes, fly around in a cloaked ship, build your own space station, colonize planets to create massive manufacturing installations, create awesome looking characters, document your travels with screenshots gorgeous scenery, delve into a rich background story, roleplay a real scifi character, run your own massive player group and conquer entire regions of lawless space, defend known space against invasions by body snatching crazed humanoids, pick one of the four factions and fight for a real cause, discover hidden treasures outside the beaten baths, clone yourself...
Explaining this to people that have not experienced EVE is quite hard... but in the end what matters is: "It's a lot of fun." |

dark heartt
517
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Posted - 2014.12.10 00:22:33 -
[120] - Quote
This is how I explained it yesterday after some questions from a mate about the HED-GP fight:
"You don't control a character, you control a spaceship. That spaceship can be anything from a tiny little frigate to a massive capital ship. Each ship is good at different things. You can mine space rocks, shoot bad guys for money, explore the universe for loot to sell, shoot other players, or work with hundreds or thousands of other players to control space. You train skills in real time, so even right now as I'm talking my two characters are progressing in the game."
"However the game is harsh, so don't expect to have your hand held. Everyone who has made Eve their home has worked to do so. They learned from doing, from reading and from listening to others who know what they are talking about. When you die, your ship and all it's gear is lost to you forever. It's also an always on PVP game. Even in the supposed 'safe' areas you can die at the hands of another player if you aren't careful. But loss is ok, and I've had more fun losing ships than winning fights sometimes."
http://tetrisisunrealistic.blogspot.com.au/
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FaDe-iN
PhalanX ProjecT
10
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Posted - 2014.12.10 00:46:07 -
[121] - Quote
Its less of a verbal explanation, and more of a kick to the groin.
"Ya, kind of like that" |

Sturmwolke
599
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Posted - 2014.12.10 04:19:38 -
[122] - Quote
I'll tell them :
EVE is sandbox MMO school where you have the opportunity to observe players pull out every tricks they can think of to get ahead. Whether PvP, PvE or the economy (which is rampant with market manipulations).
It's not a game per se. It's a social experiment. Learn from it and your perspective on things in the real world will be greatly sharpened, including, but not limited to :
- bullshit detector skills - scam detector skills - sock puppeteering detector skills - propaganda/anti-propaganda skills - always alert for awoxers - trust savvy (i.e. limit your damage in betrayal scenario) - better min-max skills, better efficiency - IT security savvy - business savvy - management savvy .....
All in all, it's a great school for non-ignoramuses. 
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Johan Civire
The Lyran Empire
868
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Posted - 2014.12.10 04:39:40 -
[123] - Quote
Uhm i`m not going to tell my friends how to play this. I have try in the "normal way" belive me i try. The get so confuse. And the problem is, i know to many things so my info is way to big to tell them.
So what i do or what i have done. Is doing a lan party with internet. Let them come over and install eve, and even i start a new "trail". So i go try to pick all of them the same race so there is no "confusion" where some one is!
There i try to learn the basic. And playing all day long. "missions" just to get the feeling how the warp works ship and combat. This can take a while to get hang of it.
It works because the ask me TONS yes TONS of question. If i need to talk that in english or i need to type all that i think the are kicking my butt and the will never play this game. But know sins i have done this way, the are playing. You can try teamspeak. But to do it for them its easyer then telling or typing.
So this game have to many options, Yes its sandbox i know. But the overwheliming of options is just crazy. I think the need to limit it, so there is not that MASS OPTION for you. Unless the hit a box that say show all options. After the done all tuts the "show option will be auto enabled"
The problem is TEXT nobody whats to read TEXT in game. Aka 2003 yah ok ic why you need to read. But come on people put some money in TALKING.
I know for me its useless sins i know a thing of two in eve so if the going to change ad it or remove this will not effect my game play. But for like my son he wants to play it he know what i`m doing but when he first login he was like uhm dad???? He get a little confuse at his first mission. I think the best way is to make a NOOB ZONE
All trail account go there is a dead space no PK nothing. No high sp players can enter. Also all noobs are there and the can team up easy without traveling because the have no clue how to team up or how to travel. So this will clean up that problem. After the have done all the tut you can get them back in eve "spawn in there own starting race"
This is how i will do. If that was possible. I know bad english but he i want try to help. |

Cyndrogen
Curse of Knowledge Advanced Vector
658
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Posted - 2014.12.10 06:57:42 -
[124] - Quote
CCP Darwin wrote:Celina Shi wrote:Im 37 years old, i dont tell my friends that i like to fly internet spaceships.. I'm 43, and most of my friends who would play a computer game at all find EVE kind of interesting! Aside from explaining it in the context of my work, I've never felt awkward about talking about playing EVE. The way I'd explain it to friends or family is that it's a space-themed computer game with a huge world, shared by thousands of people, that is all about the conflict between self-organized teams of players. Making clear that the fun of the game is essentially social contact between teammates is something that even the people I know who don't play video games understand.
Is Eve a game?
A game, typically, has a winning end game. Most games I have played my entire life end in some way or another. There is a goal and then when you complete said goal the game is over, or you die and the game is over.
Eve is nothing like a game, in fact I stopped calling it a game and I refer to it as a living work of art. It's more like legos, you build things you can assemble stuff and make your own content. It's a sandbox simulator more then a game. There are game element in Eve and even game like missions you can run, but Eve itself is a space simulator. It's a modern playground, filled with digital sand.
What makes Eve unique is the people you meet across the virtual world who also have a passion for space simulators. |

S5516B
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
0
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Posted - 2014.12.11 02:27:18 -
[125] - Quote
Quote: Is Eve a game?
A game, typically, has a winning end game. Most games I have played my entire life end in some way or another. There is a goal and then when you complete said goal the game is over, or you die and the game is over.
Eve is nothing like a game, in fact I stopped calling it a game and I refer to it as a living work of art. It's more like legos, you build things you can assemble stuff and make your own content. It's a sandbox simulator more then a game. There are game element in Eve and even game like missions you can run, but Eve itself is a space simulator. It's a modern playground, filled with digital sand.
What makes Eve unique is the people you meet across the virtual world who also have a passion for space simulators.
ThisGǪ
I read this quote to my husband and after multiple failed attempts to explain EVE, he finally gets it. Still can't get him to play though. I'm the science geek in our relationship :) |

Dredd Slider
PSI Division
4
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Posted - 2014.12.11 03:11:52 -
[126] - Quote
Cyndrogen wrote:CCP Darwin wrote:Celina Shi wrote:Im 37 years old, i dont tell my friends that i like to fly internet spaceships.. I'm 43, and most of my friends who would play a computer game at all find EVE kind of interesting! Aside from explaining it in the context of my work, I've never felt awkward about talking about playing EVE. The way I'd explain it to friends or family is that it's a space-themed computer game with a huge world, shared by thousands of people, that is all about the conflict between self-organized teams of players. Making clear that the fun of the game is essentially social contact between teammates is something that even the people I know who don't play video games understand. Is Eve a game? A game, typically, has a winning end game. Most games I have played my entire life end in some way or another. There is a goal and then when you complete said goal the game is over, or you die and the game is over. Eve is nothing like a game, in fact I stopped calling it a game and I refer to it as a living work of art. It's more like legos, you build things you can assemble stuff and make your own content. It's a sandbox simulator more then a game. There are game element in Eve and even game like missions you can run, but Eve itself is a space simulator. It's a modern playground, filled with digital sand. What makes Eve unique is the people you meet across the virtual world who also have a passion for space simulators.
"What makes Eve unique is the people you meet across the virtual world who also have a passion for space simulators."
that's all I ever tell people as to why I play eve.
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Belial Darksoul
United Space Collective Exploration
0
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Posted - 2014.12.11 03:13:20 -
[127] - Quote
Well i have never had to deal with this situation because i am blessed with lack of actual RL friends.... so yeah if i did i'd say something along the lines of:
* it is the only game [that i am aware of] that is actively promoted to Feth people off, lying, cheating, stealing, all the good things your mother warned you about, it is all here in the all-in-one-space-game.
* you can play dress ups. unfortunately there are no magic hats.......or stuff like that, but there are cybernetic arms and such.
* everything you do affects something or someone else, every action has a consequence, even if you don't realize at the time.
* if you are .....like me......and haven't got an interest in playing group games but like MMO's but don't play well with others [i prefer solo tbh, less mind feths] then you can play solo without much of a disadvantage, this type of playstyle is also promoted.
there are many things to discover, and if there isn't something for them, then i'd mention a list of other cool but unrelated to Eve "games" and what they can do etc.....
but i am blessed with no friends, either RL or online.
just how i like it.
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Vyl Vit
882
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Posted - 2014.12.11 08:19:53 -
[128] - Quote
I've been looking at this question (subject line) for a very long time now, giving it little thought, but feeling a tad strange every time I saw it, and I finally decided I'd cypher it out. The thing is, "friend" and "explain to" ... those two in the same sentence strikes me as weird. I'd never have a "friend" who'd require an explanation. I think the two concepts are...contrary to one another. A friend is someone to whom you never have to explain.
Furthermore, none of my friends don't know what EVE Online is. I don't know anyone who doesn't know what EVE is and I really wouldn't want to know anyone who doesn't know. At this day and age it'd be a bit like knowing someone who doesn't know what a wheel is, wouldn't it?
Anyone with any sense has already left town.
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Sol Project
Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic
126
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Posted - 2014.12.11 08:24:49 -
[129] - Quote
This is easy.
I have no friends, so anyone who approaches me and asks me about it ... ... would just receive a **** you and my middle finger and that's how I explain it. |

Janeway84
Def Squadron Pride Before Fall
118
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Posted - 2014.12.11 14:05:44 -
[130] - Quote
I told my friends about eve, two of them managed to play for a few hours then quit complaining about Ui, controls gameplay even :p
2 years later i managed to get one of them attached to the game for a few weeks but he dropped it when he started his new job. I havent heard from him since, he is all work no fun these days..  |

Kalishka Ashkulf
Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic
69
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Posted - 2014.12.11 14:45:42 -
[131] - Quote
How do you explain EVE to friends?
I demonstrate by doing something like this
Why, thank you, Thing!
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Adela Talvanen
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
115
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Posted - 2014.12.11 15:14:23 -
[132] - Quote
Its a space based game in which lots of Americans and a few Canadians fly around in interstellar space ships and shoot at one another, and it also has lots of Russians involved in the action as well.  |

Sol Project
Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic
135
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Posted - 2014.12.11 15:26:53 -
[133] - Quote
Adela Talvanen wrote:Its a space based game in which lots of Americans and a few Canadians fly around in interstellar space ships and shoot at one another, and it also has lots of Russians involved in the action as well.  Austria. |

Adela Talvanen
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
115
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Posted - 2014.12.11 15:33:28 -
[134] - Quote
Sol Project wrote:Adela Talvanen wrote:Its a space based game in which lots of Americans and a few Canadians fly around in interstellar space ships and shoot at one another, and it also has lots of Russians involved in the action as well.  Austria.
Like us British you are in a minority. |

Feyd Rautha Harkonnen
Lords.Of.Midnight The Devil's Warrior Alliance
1666
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Posted - 2014.12.11 18:05:24 -
[135] - Quote
This.
F
Would you like to know more?
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Mario Putzo
Welping and Dunking.
965
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Posted - 2014.12.11 19:01:26 -
[136] - Quote
EVE Online is the best game you never have to play.
Huh?
Thats right buddy, EVE is ****, it is boring, it is hard, and unforgiving...except when it isn't.
Huh?
There are hundreds of things to do, yet practically nothing at the same time...its great. You can sit in station for 8 hours and experience just as much as you would if you undock.
I don't get it?
Now you don't even need to log in to play, fill the skill queue and read about the game...the real part of the game.
What do you mean?
Simple. EVE isn't a Game, it is a community. The people you play with are the game, and you can experience the game with or with out playing it, some of the most fun Ive had in EVE was sitting on TS3 driving home from work.
So should I play it?
My friend....you don't play EVE...EVE plays you. |

Xalanax
Miskatonic Mercantile
4
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Posted - 2014.12.11 19:16:48 -
[137] - Quote
Eve is a sunset.
A technically explainable thing that while shared by many will be a unique experience to the individual. |

Tiberius Mathusia
Gallente Rebels Inc. Villore Accords
4
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Posted - 2014.12.11 20:53:05 -
[138] - Quote
Badly. I normally give up and say it's about shiny spaceships and blowing stuff up before they get bored and stop listening. |

Takoma Panala
State War Academy Caldari State
1
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Posted - 2014.12.11 21:44:39 -
[139] - Quote
Telling? No thanks, i want to keep my friends... |

Maxwell Nadires
Prime Forces The Methodical Alliance
0
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Posted - 2014.12.12 03:34:51 -
[140] - Quote
Playing EVE online is a lot like living in Hollywood, having it all, then deciding you don't like living with the stars and moving to East L.A. where the police don't even go unless they're doing a SWAT raid. |
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