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Jvpiter Jovelike 85	Posted - 2014.11.14 15:20:30 - [1] - Quote Dev blog: http://community.eveonline.com/news/dev-blogs/quick-give-me-manual-control/ They are adding WASD keys for manual flight correction because new EVE people get confused when double clicking in space. Totally optional for bittervets, of course. Will strafing allow for new content? Can we out-Keanu missiles fired at ships? Will this result in new fleet dance flash mob content? Is this the end of EVE: Valkyrie? Will we finally be able to post on the forums using a smartphone without having a nervous breakdown? Is EVE dying?
Lister Vindaloo Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation 22	Posted - 2014.11.14 15:23:10 - [2] - Quote This news ruined my night, I really like the current system, it didn't stop 11 years worth of noobs getting involved in the game
Ralph King-Griffin Lords.Of.Midnight The Devil's Warrior Alliance 6817	Posted - 2014.11.14 15:26:28 - [3] - Quote they see me roolin "I'm also quite confident that you are laughing and it's the kind of laugh that gives normal people shivers." =]I[=
Unsuccessful At Everything The Troll Bridge 17618	Posted - 2014.11.14 15:28:25 - [4] - Quote [reserved for future commentary] *Since the cessation of their usefulness is imminent, may I appropriate your belongings?*
Doc Fury Furious Enterprises 7189	Posted - 2014.11.14 15:28:41 - [5] - Quote I can't manufacture any outrage over any of this. Gÿ+ The accumulated filth of all their sex and murder will foam up about their waists and all the ho's and politicians will look up and shout 'Save us!' and I'll look down, and whisper 'Hodor'.
Wendrika Hydreiga Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation 90	Posted - 2014.11.14 15:28:58 - [6] - Quote I remember when I first started a few months back! I spent a week using celestials and objects to align my ship and move it! Only when a GM randomly talked to me I got to ask how to move my ship properly! Maybe this will spice up combat by making it more reponsive!
Jvpiter Jovelike 85	Posted - 2014.11.14 15:29:56 - [7] - Quote Lister Vindaloo wrote: This news ruined my night, I really like the current system, it didn't stop 11 years worth of noobs getting involved in the game First of all, Lister, I like your jacket. Can I have it? The WASD option is optional and not non-optional at all. Does that make you feel better? And soon as you flick the option to the "on" position, EVE will be dying.
Falin Whalen GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 744	Posted - 2014.11.14 15:32:20 - [8] - Quote Doc Fury wrote: I can't manufacture any outrage over any of this. Don't worry, someone will. "it's only because of their stupidity that they're able to be so sure of themselves." The Trial - Franz Kafka-á
Carmen Electra The Scope Gallente Federation 12980	Posted - 2014.11.14 15:39:30 - [9] - Quote This is an outrage. The lack of manual piloting controls was the last thing keeping me subbed. I quit. All my stuff will go to mittens so don't ask. Bacon makes us stronger
Lister Vindaloo Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation 22	Posted - 2014.11.14 15:42:30 - [10] - Quote It doesn't help at all, as soon as there is any form of advantage to wasd piloting it will be compulsory lest we get left behind, I love this game because it rewards tactics over twitching, this is one step closer to twitch gaming. For a beer and a decent conversation the jacket is yours
Jenn aSide Smokin Aces. 9009	Posted - 2014.11.14 15:42:34 - [11] - Quote Finally. WASD for now, but joystick is inevitable. I can fly close to someone, release some flammable gas and when they shoot me, the gas will explode and kill them. The only thing missing was the joystick!' But for real, it actually not a big deal, thus no outrage lol.
Nicolai Serkanner Jebediah Kerman's Junkyard and Spaceship Parts Co. Brave Collective 221	Posted - 2014.11.14 15:44:29 - [12] - Quote Jvpiter wrote: Lister Vindaloo wrote: This news ruined my night, I really like the current system, it didn't stop 11 years worth of noobs getting involved in the game First of all, Lister, I like your jacket. Can I have it? The WASD option is optional and not non-optional at all. Does that make you feel better? And soon as you flick the option to the "on" position, EVE will be dying. While testing it is optional. After release, who knows?
Jade Blackwind Alexylva Paradox Low-Class 180	Posted - 2014.11.14 15:46:40 - [13] - Quote The problem with the point and click in space system were, first, that this wasn't really point and click; it was (probably because of 1 Hz server ticks) unresponsive enough to turn it into point-click-click-click-start acceleration-expletive-pop . Because of the lack of proper fixed camera, it was also imprecise. Controlling direction and range during a PvP engagement with that system of manual flying while being distracted by a ton of other factors, like module cycles and overview, is an art in itself (an art which a casual player like me CBA to master). WASD+fixed camera actually makes flying an interceptor a ton of fun, even more so that it is now, so, I say welcome to our joystick wielding overlords.
marVLs 673	Posted - 2014.11.14 15:48:57 - [14] - Quote Awesome news ^^ can't w8 to fly it that way I see some more options with it, like when aliigining manualy to some thingy (like planet, gates etc) some stuff take place informing that You can click designed button for warp to it. I think it's great feature, it wont interfere with standard controls so no one should feel bad.
Xavier Holtzman Imploding Turtles Rising in Outerspace Gravity Fatal Ascension 222	Posted - 2014.11.14 15:49:33 - [15] - Quote Lister Vindaloo wrote: This news ruined my night, I really like the current system, it didn't stop 11 years worth of noobs getting involved in the game It'll be optional. Don't like it? Don't use it. You can continue to use the current system. People will use any excuse to get buttmad these days. I do not like the men on this spaceship. They are uncouth and fail to appreciate my better qualities. I have something of value to contribute to this mission if only they would realize it. - Bill Frug
Benny Ohu Chaotic Tranquility Warp to Cyno. 4151	Posted - 2014.11.14 15:49:57 - [16] - Quote Jenn aSide wrote: I can fly close to someone, release some flammable gas and when they shoot me, the gas will explode and kill them. The only thing missing was the joystick!' that's the way, bargearse
Lister Vindaloo Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation 22	Posted - 2014.11.14 15:53:15 - [17] - Quote What makes you think wasd will be more responsive? Especially during large fleet battles? I'm more concerned it will make a bigger issue of my laggy antipodean connection to the server, even more presses to lose now..... I find it counter intuitive to not be re spawned in my ship when I lose it stupidly....
Jvpiter Jovelike 87	Posted - 2014.11.14 15:57:49 - [18] - Quote Jade Blackwind wrote: The problem with the point and click in space system were, first, that this wasn't really point and click; it was (probably because of 1 Hz server ticks) unresponsive enough to turn it into point-click-click-click-start acceleration-expletive-pop . Because of the lack of proper fixed camera, it was also imprecise. Controlling direction and range during a PvP engagement with that system of manual flying while being distracted by a ton of other factors, like module cycles and overview, is an art in itself (an art which a casual player like me CBA to master). WASD+fixed camera actually makes flying an interceptor a ton of fun, even more so that it is now, so, I say welcome to our joystick wielding overlords. Now that I think about it, this will be a godsend for instaundock bookmark creation.
Carmen Electra The Scope Gallente Federation 12987	Posted - 2014.11.14 15:59:43 - [19] - Quote Will be pleased if I can use HOTAS (joystick) eventually. Bacon makes us stronger
Frostys Virpio The Mjolnir Bloc The Bloc 1366	Posted - 2014.11.14 15:59:45 - [20] - Quote Falin Whalen wrote: Doc Fury wrote: I can't manufacture any outrage over any of this. Don't worry, someone will. If not, :CCP: will find a way to give us reasons to.
Aralyn Cormallen Wildly Inappropriate Goonswarm Federation 594	Posted - 2014.11.14 16:28:04 - [21] - Quote I would imagine it might still be very jarring, and depending on how commands get processed and queued up from it, oversteering in slowly aligning ships and in TiDi will be a common occurance. For example, I could have hit A a dozen times before my plated MWD-running battleship swings to the left from the first press, and depending how much of a turn one "hit" gives, the damn thing might end up doing a doughnut from all the stacked commands. And if I realised this and attempted to correct with a couple of presses of D, would it still execute the A commands before the correcting D's. I imagine in the end , there would be a lot of "screw this, hit align" to fix the wonky flight. Should be fun for high-skill players wanting to frigate dogfight, but once you get up to certain align-times, it will probably be worthless.
Benny Ohu Chaotic Tranquility Warp to Cyno. 4153	Posted - 2014.11.14 16:32:51 - [22] - Quote i wonder how responsive it's going to be when flying a frigate (from aus), i have trouble manual piloting and keeping point because it can take seconds for my ship to begin responding to a double-click command i'm pretty sure i've only got some kills because the other person didn't see the disruption icon at the bottom of the screen flicking off-on-off-on as i attempt to manage range and heat
Jvpiter Jovelike 88	Posted - 2014.11.14 16:37:33 - [23] - Quote The double click command always reminds me of my cat dozing off. Poke. Opens one eye. Hey, what, who where? Oh ok. Move out of the way.
Benny Ohu Chaotic Tranquility Warp to Cyno. 4154	Posted - 2014.11.14 16:41:51 - [24] - Quote oh, the response time isn't just me? maybe i'm just bad. whelp mystery solved
Ralph King-Griffin Lords.Of.Midnight The Devil's Warrior Alliance 6822	Posted - 2014.11.14 16:47:04 - [25] - Quote Benny Ohu wrote: oh, the response time isn't just me? maybe i'm just bad. whelp mystery solved yeah dude, no one told you? that awesome killboard, its all a lie, your actually mining near jita. "I'm also quite confident that you are laughing and it's the kind of laugh that gives normal people shivers." =]I[=
Jon Joringer Zero-K 148	Posted - 2014.11.14 16:53:57 - [26] - Quote I'm not too upset with this. Always thought it was strange that there really wasn't any manual piloting in EVE (and no, furiously double clicking in space while also dragging your camera in between clicks to maintain a decent orbit is not manual piloting). Although, I suppose I'll have to switch up my module hotkeys, or just bind movement somewhere else.
Sexy Cakes Have A Seat 833	Posted - 2014.11.14 16:59:42 - [27] - Quote One step closer to being able to do barrel rolls! Not today spaghetti.
Herzog Wolfhammer Sigma Special Tactics Group 5661	Posted - 2014.11.14 17:04:24 - [28] - Quote Jvpiter wrote: Dev blog: http://community.eveonline.com/news/dev-blogs/quick-give-me-manual-control/ They are adding WASD keys for manual flight correction because new EVE people get confused when double clicking in space. Totally optional for bittervets, of course. Will strafing allow for new content? Can we out-Keanu missiles fired at ships? Will this result in new fleet dance flash mob content? Is this the end of EVE: Valkyrie? Will we finally be able to post on the forums using a smartphone without having a nervous breakdown? Is EVE dying? That plus an ability to keep shooting with "forward locked' turrets and bays when jammed would be epic. I have heard it over 1000 times, the lamentation of "Well I could not move, could not target, nothing. Then I died. This game sucks". If we could still at least shoot and "dogfight" when jammed and scrammed instead of having to wait to die, that would be a huge plus for the game. And we know that a forward turret that requires no locking is possible in the game. Bomb launchers anybody? The long standing problem of being "jammed to death" answered NOT in "CCP nerfing something" but in simply being given a tool to use, to be able to turn and fire on your opponent... think about it! Nobody asks for an "I WIN" Button. What the players want is a chance. Not "Oh I'm jammed. There's the scram...." (opens market screen). Give us forward shooting with WASD and that is the chance long awaited for. Bring back DEEEEP Space!
Dave Stark 7167	Posted - 2014.11.14 17:04:39 - [29] - Quote inb4 "wwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww" in chat
Jenn aSide Smokin Aces. 9012	Posted - 2014.11.14 18:01:04 - [30] - Quote Herzog Wolfhammer wrote: Jvpiter wrote: Dev blog: http://community.eveonline.com/news/dev-blogs/quick-give-me-manual-control/ They are adding WASD keys for manual flight correction because new EVE people get confused when double clicking in space. Totally optional for bittervets, of course. Will strafing allow for new content? Can we out-Keanu missiles fired at ships? Will this result in new fleet dance flash mob content? Is this the end of EVE: Valkyrie? Will we finally be able to post on the forums using a smartphone without having a nervous breakdown? Is EVE dying? That plus an ability to keep shooting with "forward locked' turrets and bays when jammed would be epic. I have heard it over 1000 times, the lamentation of "Well I could not move, could not target, nothing. Then I died. This game sucks". If we could still at least shoot and "dogfight" when jammed and scrammed instead of having to wait to die, that would be a huge plus for the game. And we know that a forward turret that requires no locking is possible in the game. Bomb launchers anybody? The long standing problem of being "jammed to death" answered NOT in "CCP nerfing something" but in simply being given a tool to use, to be able to turn and fire on your opponent... think about it! Nobody asks for an "I WIN" Button. What the players want is a chance. Not "Oh I'm jammed. There's the scram...." (opens market screen). Give us forward shooting with WASD and that is the chance long awaited for. That's not a problem at all. The problem is the people who don't fit correctly to counter potential problems they could face in a fight (such as ECCM, ecm or ecm drones of their own, mobil depots + high EHP or ancillary boosted tanks to refit warp core stabs, FoF missiles for ships that can use missiles, micro jump drives if the bad guy is using disruptor s instead of scrams etc etc). If you can get jammed and scrammed to the point of uselessness you put too many eggs in one basket (or didn't bring friends like you should have). With all the tools available in game, CCP should not have to compensate for player incompetence.
Herzog Wolfhammer Sigma Special Tactics Group 5662	Posted - 2014.11.14 18:10:06 - [31] - Quote Jenn aSide wrote: Herzog Wolfhammer wrote: Jvpiter wrote: Dev blog: http://community.eveonline.com/news/dev-blogs/quick-give-me-manual-control/ They are adding WASD keys for manual flight correction because new EVE people get confused when double clicking in space. Totally optional for bittervets, of course. Will strafing allow for new content? Can we out-Keanu missiles fired at ships? Will this result in new fleet dance flash mob content? Is this the end of EVE: Valkyrie? Will we finally be able to post on the forums using a smartphone without having a nervous breakdown? Is EVE dying? That plus an ability to keep shooting with "forward locked' turrets and bays when jammed would be epic. I have heard it over 1000 times, the lamentation of "Well I could not move, could not target, nothing. Then I died. This game sucks". If we could still at least shoot and "dogfight" when jammed and scrammed instead of having to wait to die, that would be a huge plus for the game. And we know that a forward turret that requires no locking is possible in the game. Bomb launchers anybody? The long standing problem of being "jammed to death" answered NOT in "CCP nerfing something" but in simply being given a tool to use, to be able to turn and fire on your opponent... think about it! Nobody asks for an "I WIN" Button. What the players want is a chance. Not "Oh I'm jammed. There's the scram...." (opens market screen). Give us forward shooting with WASD and that is the chance long awaited for. That's not a problem at all. The problem is the people who don't fit correctly to counter potential problems they could face in a fight (such as ECCM, ecm or ecm drones of their own, mobil depots + high EHP or ancillary boosted tanks to refit warp core stabs, FoF missiles for ships that can use missiles, micro jump drives if the bad guy is using disruptor s instead of scrams etc etc). If you can get jammed and scrammed to the point of uselessness you put too many eggs in one basket (or didn't bring friends like you should have). With all the tools available in game, CCP should not have to compensate for player incompetence. Blah blah blah., I expected this from you. Do you ever log in? Sorry but the game needs improvements and if your 5 scorpion alts are not as useful because of said improvement that's not my problem. But go on and play Conan The Contrarian for your own jollies. WASD with an ability to fire has a huge potential for fun and if you don't like that, perhaps you can work longer hours or get a second job or something. Bring back DEEEEP Space!
DaReaper Net 7 1234	Posted - 2014.11.14 18:13:51 - [32] - Quote Jvpiter wrote: Dev blog: http://community.eveonline.com/news/dev-blogs/quick-give-me-manual-control/ They are adding WASD keys for manual flight correction because new EVE people get confused when double clicking in space. Totally optional for bittervets, of course. Will strafing allow for new content? Sure Can we out-Keanu missiles fired at ships? No, the missiles use flight computers and locking, think of it as a smart missile fired at a moving target, in theory the missile will adjust course and you can't easily avoid it. Will this result in new fleet dance flash mob content? It might, we already had a few congo lines Is this the end of EVE: Valkyrie? No, this is prolly laying the ground work for valk to integrate into eve eventually Will we finally be able to post on the forums using a smartphone without having a nervous breakdown? I hope so! But that has nothing to do with this feature Is EVE dying? Hell no! Answers in bold OMG Comet Mining idea!!! Comet Mining!
Jvpiter Jovelike 90	Posted - 2014.11.14 18:14:19 - [33] - Quote Herzog Wolfhammer wrote: That plus an ability to keep shooting with "forward locked' turrets and bays when jammed would be epic. I have heard it over 1000 times, the lamentation of "Well I could not move, could not target, nothing. Then I died. This game sucks". Well if CCP implements that then we must have Lieutenant Commander Worf style "ramming speed" ship functionality.
Darth Schweinebacke Caldari Provisions Caldari State 21	Posted - 2014.11.14 18:16:48 - [34] - Quote Herzog Wolfhammer wrote: Blah blah blah., I expected this from you. Do you ever log in? Sorry but the game needs improvements and if your 5 scorpion alts are not as useful because of said improvement that's not my problem. But go on and play Conan The Contrarian for your own jollies. WASD with an ability to fire has a huge potential for fun and if you don't like that, perhaps you can work longer hours or get a second job or something. I hardly believe that you would be able to hit like that with the way the Eve engine works. To make that possible you require a much higher update frequency, unless the target sits completly still. Higher update frequency would lower the bar for people participating in a single battles a lot and I highly doubt this will ever happen. Piloting your ship with not 100% accurate control might possibly work (even though i can not imagine that will be anything like actually accuratly controlling your spaceship), but accurate aiming is a complete different story.
Jenn aSide Smokin Aces. 9012	Posted - 2014.11.14 18:18:49 - [35] - Quote Herzog Wolfhammer wrote: Blah blah blah., I expected this from you. Do you ever log in? Every night Quote: Sorry but the game needs improvements and if your 5 scorpion alts are not as useful because of said improvement that's not my problem. I don't fly ecm ships lol.. Nor do i ask ccp to do things for me that I can do for myself. Self-reliance and using the tools available instead of running to mommie for help is hard for some people, ain't it Herzog? Quote: But go on and play Conan The Contrarian for your own jollies. WASD with an ability to fire has a huge potential for fun and if you don't like that, perhaps you can work longer hours or get a second job or something. Don't need a second job, that would take away from actually playing the game I'm playing rather than begging for someone else to fix my mistakes for me. No onis being a contrarian, simply point out that what you want from this game is nonsense...dial in warp nonsense on top of that lol.
DaReaper Net 7 1234	Posted - 2014.11.14 18:22:04 - [36] - Quote Jvpiter wrote: Herzog Wolfhammer wrote: That plus an ability to keep shooting with "forward locked' turrets and bays when jammed would be epic. I have heard it over 1000 times, the lamentation of "Well I could not move, could not target, nothing. Then I died. This game sucks". Well if CCP implements that then we must have Lieutenant Commander Worf style "ramming speed" ship functionality. You will never get this without a complete rewrite of the game physics, and that would be a huge undertaking. So its more then likely not going to happen anytime soon. Another game coming has this as a feature... I bet in a year you will see them turn that feature off, esp when a group of eve players invades and shows how that feature can be abused to high hades. But besides that, if we had collision damage, then all undocks would have to change, and you would have delayed undocking, or something because there is zero way jita's 4-4 station would work correctly anymore if this was changed OMG Comet Mining idea!!! Comet Mining!
Serene Repose 1625	Posted - 2014.11.14 21:01:20 - [37] - Quote Once again, we left-handers are LEFT out. Thanks. I think 'gamers' who automatically reach for the W key are re... uh, not very BRIGHT. So, of course, let's conform to them. There's no standard like...no standards. Hoo haw. Ain't we lucky they're along? I have sworn upon the altar of God eternal hostility toward every form of tyranny over the mind of man.-á
Cancel Align NOW Imperial Shipment Amarr Empire 249	Posted - 2014.11.14 21:06:24 - [38] - Quote Jvpiter wrote: Dev blog: http://community.eveonline.com/news/dev-blogs/quick-give-me-manual-control/ They are adding WASD keys for manual flight correction because new EVE people get confused when double clicking in space. Totally optional for bittervets, of course. Will strafing allow for new content? Can we out-Keanu missiles fired at ships? Will this result in new fleet dance flash mob content? Is this the end of EVE: Valkyrie? Will we finally be able to post on the forums using a smartphone without having a nervous breakdown? Is EVE dying? No. No. That depends if the titan pilots are too drunk to log in or not. Hopefully. No. We are all dying from the time we exit the womb.
Cancel Align NOW Imperial Shipment Amarr Empire 249	Posted - 2014.11.14 21:09:39 - [39] - Quote Serene Repose wrote: Once again, we left-handers are LEFT out. Thanks. I think 'gamers' who automatically reach for the W key are re... uh, not very BRIGHT. So, of course, let's conform to them. There's no standard like...no standards. Hoo haw. Ain't we lucky they're along? As a left hander I am sure you are used to selecting your own key set up
Jvpiter Jovelike 96	Posted - 2014.11.14 21:22:48 - [40] - Quote Serene Repose wrote: Once again, we left-handers are LEFT out. That is alright. We Southpaws are all possessed by evil spirits and expected to have short life expectancy anyway. Might as well screw us on the keyboard and mouse ergonomics thing.
Mharius Skjem Opacity Circles 126	Posted - 2014.11.14 21:29:04 - [41] - Quote When I first joined back in 2007/2008 I didn't realise for at least two years that you could click the sky and your ship would move in that direction, so to be honest I think it's welcome. I did obviously right click and suss out the menu etc on account of the fact that I am not totally thick. A recovering btter vet, with a fresh toon and a determination to like everything that CCP does to Eve...
Unezka Turigahl Det Som Engang Var 430	Posted - 2014.11.14 21:43:03 - [42] - Quote It's kinda scary that there are so many of you mutant freak lefties playing this game. Gross. Also, I think people are getting a little too excited over WASD. With the server tick it's not going to be action packed dogfighting. Panning the camera and doubleclicking in space will probably still be a more accurate and direct way of moving. Can't wait to test it though.
Metal Icarus Dirt Nap Squad Dirt Nap Squad. 706	Posted - 2014.11.14 21:59:57 - [43] - Quote This would be even better if we had: 1) A chase camera 2) A better overlay that doubled as a on-grid radar so one could be zoomed in on their ship and still know what is around them.
Nicolai Serkanner Jebediah Kerman's Junkyard and Spaceship Parts Co. Brave Collective 223	Posted - 2014.11.14 22:33:22 - [44] - Quote F1
Jvpiter Jovelike 97	Posted - 2014.11.14 23:33:33 - [45] - Quote Metal Icarus wrote: 2) A better overlay that doubled as a on-grid radar so one could be zoomed in on their ship and still know what is around them. With original soundbites from Hunt for Red October! In this case, we could have the slight audio distortion they had in the movie to spot the sneaky Russian sub, except for AFK cloakers!
Crumplecorn Eve Cluster Explorations 1609	Posted - 2014.11.15 01:27:25 - [46] - Quote Herzog Wolfhammer wrote: That plus an ability to keep shooting with "forward locked' turrets and bays when jammed would be epic. I have heard it over 1000 times, the lamentation of "Well I could not move, could not target, nothing. Then I died. This game sucks". If we could still at least shoot and "dogfight" when jammed and scrammed instead of having to wait to die, that would be a huge plus for the game. It begins. Witty Image - Stream Not Liking this post hurts my RL feelings and will be considered harassment
Rhivre TarNec Invisible Exchequer 806	Posted - 2014.11.15 01:30:26 - [47] - Quote Wait til some people find out that there are keyboard shortcuts for things in Eve Fluffy Bunny Pic!
Scipio Artelius The Vendunari End of Life 21381	Posted - 2014.11.15 01:53:31 - [48] - Quote Serene Repose wrote: Once again, we left-handers are LEFT out. Thanks. I think 'gamers' who automatically reach for the W key are re... uh, not very BRIGHT. So, of course, let's conform to them. There's no standard like...no standards. Hoo haw. Ain't we lucky they're along? Adapt or die Serene. We've had to do it all our lives. We should be the apex players of Eve, not worried about a little WASD introduction. I think I'll map the keys to all those extra mouse buttons I seem to have but never use. Come Win At Eve - Join The Vendunari
shimiku Black VooDoo Asassins The Kadeshi 23	Posted - 2014.11.15 02:02:21 - [49] - Quote they wast time on to much **** from my point of view but anyway how is this gonna work with tidi you dont have any clue how long to the left right op or down you have told the server that you want to go
MidnightWyvern Night Theifs DamnedNation 52	Posted - 2014.11.15 03:34:28 - [50] - Quote Lister Vindaloo wrote: What makes you think wasd will be more responsive? Especially during large fleet battles? I'm more concerned it will make a bigger issue of my laggy antipodean connection to the server, even more presses to lose now..... I find it counter intuitive to not be re spawned in my ship when I lose it stupidly.... Slippery Slope Fallacy http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=eaUaJUhTZfw#t=148s An excellent example of why pod killmails are the best feature to be implemented in EVE Online since warping at zero.
Ila Dace Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation 12512	Posted - 2014.11.15 05:00:38 - [51] - Quote Jenn aSide wrote: Finally. WASD for now, but joystick is inevitable. I can fly close to someone, release some flammable gas and when they shoot me, the gas will explode and kill them. The only thing missing was the joystick!' But for real, it actually not a big deal, thus no outrage lol. But can you do that while typing "I FART IN YOUR GENERAL DIRECTION" in local? If House played Eve: http://i.imgur.com/y7ShT.jpg But in purple, I'm stunning!
Jvpiter Jovelike 101	Posted - 2014.11.15 05:33:41 - [52] - Quote So I was thinking more about this. I know, I know. This Jvpiter fellow, does he ever actually think? I imagine being able to go side to side without needing to flip your camera is a nice way to very quickly alter your traversal. As someone mentioned before, it would be interesting to see how much it affects Frigates in combat. After all it's a pretty sound strategy that's been tested and proven in Zelda and Golden Axe so there's no reason it won't work here. My brothers had to no e-honor at all in these games. It was all strafe to win.
Moonlit Raid State War Academy Caldari State 220	Posted - 2014.11.15 05:58:51 - [53] - Quote Meh. If brute force isn't working, you're just not using enough.
Dave Stark 7174	Posted - 2014.11.15 12:06:47 - [54] - Quote Serene Repose wrote: Once again, we left-handers are LEFT out. Thanks. I think 'gamers' who automatically reach for the W key are re... uh, not very BRIGHT. So, of course, let's conform to them. There's no standard like...no standards. Hoo haw. Ain't we lucky they're along? as a left handed person... i have no idea what the **** you're babbling about.
Ralph King-Griffin Lords.Of.Midnight The Devil's Warrior Alliance 6872	Posted - 2014.11.15 12:25:40 - [55] - Quote CCP Nullarbor wrote: Manual flight controls are now enabled on Singularity. You will need to bind the keys in the settings window first. Feedback should go in the thread here. Enjoy! "I'm also quite confident that you are laughing and it's the kind of laugh that gives normal people shivers." =]I[=
Harrison Tato Yamato Holdings 188	Posted - 2014.11.15 13:57:31 - [56] - Quote Dave Stark wrote: Serene Repose wrote: Once again, we left-handers are LEFT out. Thanks. I think 'gamers' who automatically reach for the W key are re... uh, not very BRIGHT. So, of course, let's conform to them. There's no standard like...no standards. Hoo haw. Ain't we lucky they're along? as a left handed person... i have no idea what the **** you're babbling about. Yeah on my keyboard the W is actually closer to my left hand.
La Rynx School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State 109	Posted - 2014.11.15 14:14:16 - [57] - Quote Nice mod, but not worth any stress. Mostly good for bumbing and avoid bumbing. The rest remains unchanged and WASD doesn't help. Not much more then another double click into space. Smart it does not change much in control for EvE but for the player it feels he has a direkt control. I really like it. Forum Main
Cherri Minoa Kongsberg Vaapenfabrikk Amarr branch. Sev3rance 19	Posted - 2014.11.15 14:21:36 - [58] - Quote What's with all the references to clicking in space to move? Everyone knows that you have to click at least 10 times as fast as possible to get any response. It's the same principle that makes lifts arrive at your floor quicker if you keep pressing the button as fast as you can. "If I had been censured every time I have run my ship, or fleets under my command, into great danger, I should have long ago been out of the Service" - Horatio Nelson
Mina Sebiestar Mactabilis Simplex Cursus 756	Posted - 2014.11.15 14:24:31 - [59] - Quote When i first join back in......ok i have nothing.
Rowells Unknown Soldiers Fidelas Constans 1671	Posted - 2014.11.15 14:40:04 - [60] - Quote I'll only truly enjoy it if I can pull sweet donuts off with it. Nothing says bait drake like a spinning one.
Freako X Doom Inc 158	Posted - 2014.11.15 18:32:32 - [61] - Quote I think this is awesome..... Although, I tend to think about pulling back on the stick to go up and forward to go down .... But I can assign keys to make that happen. I started EVE in beta and have been back multiple times. I always thought click to move was not the best option. Glad WSAD is happening for movement.
Ahnor Redgail Volition Cult The Volition Cult 3	Posted - 2014.11.23 21:17:39 - [62] - Quote Manual steering is fantastic idea. About time.
Ssabat Thraxx Dominion Tenebrarum Reverberation Project 993	Posted - 2014.11.23 21:52:40 - [63] - Quote Lister Vindaloo wrote: It doesn't help at all, as soon as there is any form of advantage to wasd piloting it will be compulsory lest we get left behind, I love this game because it rewards tactics over twitching, this is one step closer to twitch gaming. Yeah, I agree. I've never been a fan of twitch games, and Ive always loved how combat in Eve was more like an orchestrated, flowing thing (whatever the hell that means.) So, I seriously hope that there's not gonna be any real advantage to flying this way, because if there is, as you said, I'll HAVE to start doing it too or forever be at a disadvantage. That said, if it doesnt effect actual gameplay, then wth, I dont care. vOv \m/ O.o \m/ "You're a freak ..." - Solecist Project
Debora Tsung The Investment Bankers Guild 1338	Posted - 2014.11.23 21:59:41 - [64] - Quote Lister Vindaloo wrote: This news ruined my night, I really like the current system, it didn't stop 11 years worth of noobs getting involved in the game CCP Nullabor wrote: ... The controls will initially be opt-in... I can almost feel the wrecking impact of this news on overly emotional dreamscape. The uncertainty, the fear! Downright nightmarish! Additional options THE HORROR! Stupidity should be a bannable offense. Also This --> https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=216699 Please stop making "afk cloak" threads, thanks in advance.
45thtiger 0109 AL3XAND3R. 113	Posted - 2014.11.23 22:53:22 - [65] - Quote Think about this guys. The reason why CCP wants to introduce the WASD keys into the game is for people using that programme and to see if the players of EvE that uses that programme either using the manual controls or using the automatic controls. This is a way CCP can catch people out using that programme. As for one I do not have a need for such programme and I will never have a need for it. Unless one day CCP decides to implement their own version of that programme into EvE. That programme is called ISBOXER. That is my thoughts why CCP want to implement the WASD keys. You Have to take the good with the bad and the bad with the good. Welcome to EvE OnLiNe
J'Poll CDG Playgrounds 4855	Posted - 2014.11.23 23:02:19 - [66] - Quote Jvpiter wrote: Dev blog: http://community.eveonline.com/news/dev-blogs/quick-give-me-manual-control/ They are adding WASD keys for manual flight correction because new EVE people get confused when double clicking in space. Totally optional for bittervets, of course. Will strafing allow for new content? Can we out-Keanu missiles fired at ships? Will this result in new fleet dance flash mob content? Is this the end of EVE: Valkyrie? Will we finally be able to post on the forums using a smartphone without having a nervous breakdown? Is EVE dying? I will use it, if my ship can bunny-hop over any bullets fired at me. Personal channel: Crazy Dutch Guy Help channel: Help chat - Reloaded Public roams channels: RvB Ganked / Redemption Road / Spectre Fleet / Bombers bar / The Content Club
Mr Epeen It's All About Me 6822	Posted - 2014.11.24 00:16:33 - [67] - Quote WASDDDDDWWASWASSSSWASDDDWASWSADDDWSASWS Damn! I can't get it to work. This is the test forum, right? Mr Epeen There are 86,400 seconds in a day. You just saved one of them by typing 'u' instead of 'you'.-á Congratulations, dumbass!
Liafcipe9000 Critically Preposterous 24937	Posted - 2014.11.25 07:51:43 - [68] - Quote I'd love to see people's faces when they realize there's no strafing or barrel rolls... Frostys Virpio > CCP: Continously Crying Playerbase I like to gank it, gank it!
Jvpiter Jovelike 2701	Posted - 2014.11.25 08:19:09 - [69] - Quote This feature was likely a response to that Chris Rogers fellow and his perpetual vaporware. Call me Joe.
Ila Dace Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation 12526	Posted - 2014.11.26 15:14:44 - [70] - Quote Will be interesting to see what this does for Eve racing. Still would like those race-gate deployables like the old training courses in X-Wing and Tie Fighter. If House played Eve: http://i.imgur.com/y7ShT.jpg But in purple, I'm stunning!
Herzog Wolfhammer Sigma Special Tactics Group 5714	Posted - 2014.11.26 16:52:30 - [71] - Quote Unsuccessful At Everything wrote: Ok. Ive been thinking about this all day. Before I start, I want one thing to be perfectly clear: I ***** love this WASD control thing, always wanted it. Finally I can do a *** Barrel Roll. Now that that is out of the way, I do have some concerns. namely one: That this is a huge ** you to existing players, and not in the way you think. For years, WASD control capabilities have been suggested in F&I, and have been shot down repeatedly. I am guilty of shooting a few down myself. CCP has always maintained that WASD control capabilities weren't compatible with the 1Hz server ticks and blah blah latency excuses blah blah impossible or super hard for reasons and things. But now, a couple people go to CCP and play for 30 minutes.. probably mumble something once about WASD not working.. and ***** presto! WASD Control is being implemented. CCP Nullarbor wrote: Today I'm going to share with you an experiment that was born out of recent new player experience testing that we have been doing here at CCP HQ in Iceland. Born out of new player testing? How about numerous F&I thread suggestions? Do existing players get any ***** credit for the idea, or shall we solely thank the 30 minute Eve focus group? Do existing players's suggestions even register on the radar anymore? Whats next? 30 minute focus groups by never-played-eve-before average joes on how to fix Sov or POSs? Anyways, I guess im steamed by the wording of the devblog. A slight change recognizing the numerous requests of existing players would have been great, but since it didn't, all I can see is a huge middle finger to existing players, and its going to be really hard to give the finger back.. seeing as that it will soon be occupied by the W key. To the ramparts! We need to find out ahead of time when the next noob-off-the-street test is and have the noobs attempt to strafe a target when jammed and say "Hey, I can't activate my turrents when jammed? I should at least be able to have some kind of counter to being jammed instead of just sitting here". And then that little problem changes in 2 seconds. Bring back DEEEEP Space!

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