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Chode Rizoum
Minmatar
Finite Horizon
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Posted - 2006.09.11 18:52:00 -
[31]
alittle bump..
to remind the devs to fix the hog 
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Wintermoon
Interstellar eXodus
R0ADKILL
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Posted - 2006.09.11 19:39:00 -
[32]
Yes, please fix before my alt trains for it. :)
kthxbye
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Kateryne
Steel Frontier
Ekliptika
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Posted - 2006.09.11 21:27:00 -
[33]
Personally the nidhoggur is a sexy piece of ****, the fact that with relatively middle of the roads skills, it can rep 10k of shields every 8.5 seconds makes me laugh at the idea of my pos coming under attack... I would rather see all carriers given a damage bonus, and then each keeping their racial bonus (gallente would need a new racial bonus, as i disagree with people who say that cause gallente get drone damage bonuses, they should have uber fighters too - caldari should  )
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Randay
0utbreak
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Posted - 2006.09.12 00:28:00 -
[34]
Give it a doomsday device fitting bonus!
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Lienzo
Minmatar
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Posted - 2006.09.12 01:20:00 -
[35]
From what I've seen, they need a carrier that can make those Fighters much faster, and orbit at longer range.
What we really need is a difference in fighters. We need a lighter, faster class fighters. We need some sentry fighters really badly too.
We also need some fighter with kick-ass ew capability like turret disrupt drone able to disrupt up to 2 enemies with full strength disruption, or a fighter that drops mini-warp fields or scrambles up to 7.5km, and possibly a fighter that drops webber bubbles.
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Drevonion
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Posted - 2006.09.12 01:31:00 -
[36]
 Originally by: Kateryne
Personally the nidhoggur is a sexy piece of ****, the fact that with relatively middle of the roads skills, it can rep 10k of shields every 8.5 seconds makes me laugh at the idea of my pos coming under attack... I would rather see all carriers given a damage bonus, and then each keeping their racial bonus (gallente would need a new racial bonus, as i disagree with people who say that cause gallente get drone damage bonuses, they should have uber fighters too - caldari should )
Damn didnt think of this.... A well hardened pos with 4-6 nids in it would 1) heal the shield quite nicely, and would be able to assault the dreads with some nice damage, dont you think?
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dreamforce
Minmatar
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Posted - 2006.09.12 01:47:00 -
[37]
Originally by: Drevonion
Originally by: Kateryne
Personally the nidhoggur is a sexy piece of ****, the fact that with relatively middle of the roads skills, it can rep 10k of shields every 8.5 seconds makes me laugh at the idea of my pos coming under attack... I would rather see all carriers given a damage bonus, and then each keeping their racial bonus (gallente would need a new racial bonus, as i disagree with people who say that cause gallente get drone damage bonuses, they should have uber fighters too - caldari should )
Damn didnt think of this.... A well hardened pos with 4-6 nids in it would 1) heal the shield quite nicely, and would be able to assault the dreads with some nice damage, dont you think?
Not really, since a few Ospreys will repair a similar amount to one Nid at a fraction of the cost of the capital shield transfer mod alone. A nid sitting outside a POS bubble repping its shields during a POS siege would become a very inviting target for the assaulting dreads.
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sr blackout
Minmatar
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Posted - 2006.09.12 04:29:00 -
[38]
I still donĘt get why they didnĘt just give racial fighter bonus from startą and come up with better bonuses later oną instead of this so called balanceą btw faster fighters is badą until they get fixed and can hit small things LOL I say give racial bonuses to fighters but give them maybe 2-3 bonuses, 2ndary and third bonus something of not relating to dmg but to the other options of a shipą im still waiting until they unnerf capital ships esp carriers lol
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eve warrior
Minmatar
Serial Killers
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Posted - 2006.09.12 04:47:00 -
[39]
All i want is the dam fighters to be fixed. I lauched afew fighers at a bs that was 100km from me, my fighters rushed up there to shoot the bs but when i asked them to return they came back to me at a whooping 230m/s. Anyone else have this problme?
Reminds me of when the drones use to be buggered up. Only diference is these cost 20mill a pop so i had to wait for the dam things to return 
Eve warrior
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Susa Ou
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Posted - 2006.09.12 08:20:00 -
[40]
If you are not flying a Gellente Carrier, you are only making yourself weaker. Considering all the time and money you put into making and training for one - to have it be the worst in its class is very gg. . .unless you RP of course.
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TuRtLe HeAd
The Bratwurst Burglars
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Posted - 2006.09.12 08:29:00 -
[41]
Originally by: eve warrior
All i want is the dam fighters to be fixed. I lauched afew fighers at a bs that was 100km from me, my fighters rushed up there to shoot the bs but when i asked them to return they came back to me at a whooping 230m/s. Anyone else have this problme?
Reminds me of when the drones use to be buggered up. Only diference is these cost 20mill a pop so i had to wait for the dam things to return
Eve warrior
I don't give a hoot about the fighters. its the ship thats the problem, Please move to a fighter thread. This is about the Nidhoggur.
It needs a PvP related bonus. Remote repping/boosting means that the ships gotta be in the thick of combat to be of any use. And who the hell would want to PvP in the ONLY carrier that can't defend itself.
Some dude ingame Said to me that Siddy Pwns Dreadnoughts in his Nidhoggur, Wow! Give him Any of the other 3 and watch him do it faster or with less hp loss.
One person's hit the nail on the head. Don't Let it be 3 years like the typhoon before they sort it.
Fix it in Kali. and give it an Offense or Defensive PvP/PvE bonus.
DITCH the Second remote hospital bonus. its unbefitting of the Minmatar |
Boonaki
Caldari
Suffoco Noctis
Atrocitas
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Posted - 2006.09.12 08:44:00 -
[42]
I'd rather see it get a bonus to fighter tracking. A 25% bonus to fighter tracking, I'd train up to use one.
Fear the Ibis of doom!
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Lord Violent
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Posted - 2006.09.12 09:20:00 -
[43]
Originally by: Boonaki
I'd rather see it get a bonus to fighter tracking. A 25% bonus to fighter tracking, I'd train up to use one.
Beat me to it :(
Give it a tracking bonus to fighters
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Chode Rizoum
Minmatar
Finite Horizon
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Posted - 2006.09.27 20:15:00 -
[44]
we havent forgot the hog ^^
can we get a officiel word tuxford ?
if it will be looked at before kali hits ?
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Lefevre
Caldari
Shinra
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Posted - 2006.09.27 20:33:00 -
[45]
A tracking bonus would certainly be an interesting change and make it a far more useful carrier.
Would be cool if someone with great math abilities played around with the numbers and figured out what actual effect it would have on combat.
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Ath Amon
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Posted - 2006.09.27 20:38:00 -
[46]
i agree with fighter bonuses... some time ago there where a similar discussion about carriers and some very nice proposal where made.
the most interesting ones where imo ones that granted racial bonuses to all the fighters or a more general bonus on race fighters.
... in the end if the "role/peculiarity" of carriers is to use fighters they should be equal in doing that or we end in a scenraio with a carrier using triplanes and one using F22
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Eve Hel
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Posted - 2006.09.27 20:41:00 -
[47]
Originally by: Blind Man
GIVE IT A SHIELD BOOST BONUS!!!!
this would be the logical one change, give it the same boost to shield boosting, like you'r command ships have  |
Sir Perigrin
Confederate Sons Of Liberty
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Posted - 2006.09.29 01:28:00 -
[48]
Myself i am another aspireing future nidhouger/Naglafar piolot. so as i am putting in the time and isk into the skills now, i too have an interest in fixing this, however, u guys would have a LOT more luck in the game dev forum, where theres a 4 page thread growing on the caldari chimera class carrier, which haveing flown one over a t a freinds house on his account, i can tell u is even more screwed up. its not just a misplaced bounus, its the size of an armageddon, with the centerpoint 10 meters from the thrusters, and sheilds sticking out a mile behind it. that thread is why im training for a nidhouger instead :) . so it could be worse, but if we want to get this fix'd, lets move to a nice new shiny rant thread in the game dev forum. the chimera group even got an ISD member post in there!!!
http://www.csol.us.pn |
Foulis
Minmatar
Chosen Path
Lotka Volterra
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Posted - 2006.09.29 02:03:00 -
[49]
Fix the hog! I'm only a month away, I don't care if it sucks I'm still going to fly it. But please make it cool. A jump range bonus would pwn.
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Originally by: Nikolai Nuvolari
NO WORDS IN THE ENGLISH LANGUAGE ARE SPELLED WITH THE NUMBER "8" IN THEM GODDAMNIT!
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sr blackout
Minmatar
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Posted - 2006.09.29 03:20:00 -
[50]
lol so i guess some of us will have to train shield and armor for the capitals O_o again this will turn out like the tempest were you had to train tur and missiles if you wanted to be the most effective at it...
I would like to get same bonus to shield and armor since you can do either.. then why would you give the bonus only to say shields O_o
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TuRtLe HeAd
The Bratwurst Burglars
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Posted - 2006.09.29 09:24:00 -
[51]
Give it a Split bonus.
2.5% to shield boost. And
2.5% to armour rep.
Would call for an unprecedented Dual Tank setup.
I think the Best bonus would be a bonus to fighter tracking. Jump range doesn't help it vs another carrier. The other races bonuses are proportional to each other. (Damage, Amrour resist Sheild resist) Bring the Nid inline with the others. |
Ithildin
Gallente
The Corporation
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Posted - 2006.09.29 09:44:00 -
[52]
Originally by: TuRtLe HeAd
Give it a Split bonus.
2.5% to shield boost. And
2.5% to armour rep.
Would call for an unprecedented Dual Tank setup.
I think the Best bonus would be a bonus to fighter tracking. Jump range doesn't help it vs another carrier. The other races bonuses are proportional to each other. (Damage, Amrour resist Sheild resist) Bring the Nid inline with the others.
Split bonuses do not work. Double-tanks run out of cap and have too low resistances to complement their tanking. Essentially you are taking the worst of two worlds with none of the benefits when trying to do two things at once.
Much better to make it DIFFERENT from the other carriers. For example, a cap efficiency bonus.
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mr passie
Minmatar
Purgatorial Janitors Inc.
Knights Of the Southerncross
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Posted - 2006.09.29 10:12:00 -
[53]
To be honest the range bonus isn't too bad. i do believe the bonus should apply to the minmatar philosophy fast and hard. so it should either be hitting hard (which is done by the nyx already) or fast.
so hit and run throughout the galaxy, yarr
now start flaming me for a n00b since I don't fly one yet and don't know what I'm talking about 
Off course it would also become an instant favorite amongst industrialists for hauling.
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Darmed Khan
Minmatar
Khumatari Holdings
Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2006.09.29 10:20:00 -
[54]
Originally by: Chode Rizoum
ok gonner make it short. we all know this bonus sucks.
5% reduction in Shield and Armor transfer duration per
level
to a reduction in ice consumption amount for jump drive.
So we get free ice every time we jump? Excellent!
Alternatively, I'd be happy with swapping the duration bonus with 5% increased shield/armour transfer amount. That way you get (almost) the same hp/sec bonus, but it won't cripple your cap any more than any other carrier.
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Reatu Krentor
Minmatar
Void Spiders
Fate Weavers
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Posted - 2006.09.29 11:01:00 -
[55]
Originally by: Darmed Khan
Originally by: Chode Rizoum
ok gonner make it short. we all know this bonus sucks.
5% reduction in Shield and Armor transfer duration per
level
to a reduction in ice consumption amount for jump drive.
So we get free ice every time we jump? Excellent!
Alternatively, I'd be happy with swapping the duration bonus with 5% increased shield/armour transfer amount. That way you get (almost) the same hp/sec bonus, but it won't cripple your cap any more than any other carrier.
a bonus to increase shield/armor transfer amount would be better then duration reduction. Make it 6% and it is even closer to being the same increase(7.5% would be even nicer of course, and be slightly better then the duration reduction bonus.)
Amount bonus or add a second bonus to reduce cap by same amount as duration.
Either option would be fine by me.
IF completely replacing it with a new bonus, I can't think of any bonus that would be "unique" and not just a carbon copy of another carrier.
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Chode Rizoum
Minmatar
Finite Horizon
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Posted - 2006.09.29 16:50:00 -
[56]
Originally by: Darmed Khan
Originally by: Chode Rizoum
ok gonner make it short. we all know this bonus sucks.
5% reduction in Shield and Armor transfer duration per
level
to a reduction in ice consumption amount for jump drive.
So we get free ice every time we jump? Excellent!
Alternatively, I'd be happy with swapping the duration bonus with 5% increased shield/armour transfer amount. That way you get (almost) the same hp/sec bonus, but it won't cripple your cap any more than any other carrier.
some actulley use it for other stuff then sitting at a pos
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Randay
0utbreak
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Posted - 2006.09.29 19:08:00 -
[57]
Aside from the very obvious 7.5% bonus to shield boost amount, here are a couple more that might prove interesting:
10-20% bonus to Drone/Fighter MWD/speed per level
2% bonus to gang members speed per level
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Alexison
Caldari
Reikoku
Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.09.29 21:38:00 -
[58]
20% Kebab production increase per level!
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Kaylana Syi
Minmatar
The Nest
Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2006.09.29 22:04:00 -
[59]
Edited by: Kaylana Syi on 29/09/2006 22:04:09
Originally by: Randay
Aside from the very obvious 7.5% bonus to shield boost amount, here are a couple more that might prove interesting:
That is the worst case scenario... don't tempt tux please. Some (most) people armor tank their Minmatar Capital Ships. Remember this bonus will apply to the Hel too.
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10-20% bonus to Drone/Fighter MWD/speed per level
Too crap of a bonus... 7.5% tracking to all fighters would be better.
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2% bonus to gang members speed per level
That is what skirmish warfare skills are for.
Team Minmatar
Carriers need Clone Vats
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Randay
0utbreak
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Posted - 2006.09.29 23:10:00 -
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Originally by: Kaylana Syi
Edited by: Kaylana Syi on 29/09/2006 22:04:09
Originally by: Randay
Aside from the very obvious 7.5% bonus to shield boost amount, here are a couple more that might prove interesting:
That is the worst case scenario... don't tempt tux please. Some (most) people armor tank their Minmatar Capital Ships. Remember this bonus will apply to the Hel too.
WRONG! /lexluther
This is the best case scenario. All minmatar ships with a tanking bonus have been shield boost amount bonuses! The chances of it getting an armor tank bonus is exactly zero, zilch, and nada! Those minmatar ships are also geared towards shield tanking by design. Of course I am not saying that armor tanking a minmatar capital is useless, just that shield tanking is what the devs have in mind.
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