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Nami Kumamato
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
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Posted - 2014.11.18 14:20:04 -
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Benny Ohu wrote:Nami Kumamato wrote:Benny Ohu wrote:Nami Kumamato wrote:yes but did you saw a public apology filled with tears? yet again. you don't know why someone cries if they do not tell you. the man acknowledged a mistake and apparently there's a lot of people out there completely disregarding his own opinion and yet claim to defend him He is (and hopefully still is) a member of ESA. He had to make an apology to save face. This how big things work ;) how interesting that you know more about the guy than he tells you, white knight
Dude, if a CCP member would be in this situation you would see an apology the next second.
It's how corps work in the real world.
You get that memo with "Make a public apology. Nao! This could reflect bad on the company!" at which point you automatically comply.
[i]"And now my ship is oh so cloaked and fit
It never felt so good, I never felt so hid"[/i]
- Ramona McCandless, Untitled
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Kaarous Aldurald
Lords.Of.Midnight
The Devil's Warrior Alliance
10649
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Posted - 2014.11.18 14:25:32 -
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When I saw this, I thought it was absurd.
I have way, way worse shirts than that.
"Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."
One of ours, ten of theirs.
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Nami Kumamato
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
323
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Posted - 2014.11.18 14:30:14 -
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Kaarous Aldurald wrote:When I saw this, I thought it was absurd.
I have way, way worse shirts than that.
Pretty soon I won't be able to wear my Gimli shirt because I'll offend the well...dwarves.
I won't be able to wear my Arnold shirt because I'll offend the skinny guys
I can't wear my Emilie Autumn shirt because I offend the schizophrenics.
And not even the EVE shirt cause I'll offend the Christians (or the WoW guys, I don't know).
You can't drop a pin today without offending someone. That's how we get in those white shirts and walk in line to take our daily pills to suppress the feelings :D And then Christian Bale comes and saves us.
[i]"And now my ship is oh so cloaked and fit
It never felt so good, I never felt so hid"[/i]
- Ramona McCandless, Untitled
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Benny Ohu
Chaotic Tranquility
Warp to Cyno.
4170
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Posted - 2014.11.18 14:30:25 -
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Nami Kumamato wrote:Dude, if a CCP member would be in this situation you would see an apology the next second.
It's how corps work in the real world.
You get that memo with "Make a public apology. Nao! This could reflect bad on the company!" at which point you automatically comply.
gosh i had no idea your perfect knowledge could immediately discount any other reasons behind making a personal inpromptu apology, white knight |
Helene Fidard
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Posted - 2014.11.18 14:33:33 -
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Nami Kumamato wrote:Also the leader of the same feminist group that went after the dude has pictures of her in a "Bathe In Male Tears" sweatshirt on her Faceboook page. So yeah...
miniluv strikes again!
Benny Ohu wrote:Nami Kumamato wrote:He is (and hopefully still is) a member of ESA.
He had to make an apology to save face. This how big things work ;) how interesting that you know more about the guy than he tells you, white knight
Shirt guy has my commiserations. Being criticized on the internet is probably pretty nasty; being symbolically martyrized by your "defenders" on the internet is probably worse.
OP, have some respect. |
Jvpiter
Jovelike
948
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Posted - 2014.11.18 14:34:25 -
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Kaarous Aldurald wrote:When I saw this, I thought it was absurd.
I have way, way worse shirts than that.
Did you wear them at your job, while being interviewed on international TV for a historic moment for science and the human race?
Totally absurd we would want to have a dress code for that.
Call me Joe.
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Nami Kumamato
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
323
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Posted - 2014.11.18 14:34:54 -
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Benny Ohu wrote:Nami Kumamato wrote:Dude, if a CCP member would be in this situation you would see an apology the next second.
It's how corps work in the real world.
You get that memo with "Make a public apology. Nao! This could reflect bad on the company!" at which point you automatically comply. gosh i had no idea your perfect knowledge could immediately discount any other reasons behind making a personal inpromptu apology, white knight
You gotta be at least naive that he saw the comments and went OMG OMG i need to make a public apology nao!
I don't discount his own sense but 90% sure one of those higher old cooks there in ESA just approached slowly and whispered softly "You make apology immediately, yes?"
And if he did it so impromptu then all the more respect to the guy - but seriously what else could you do in his situation?
Stay silent and then have an uproar?
You don't think these things through much do you?
[i]"And now my ship is oh so cloaked and fit
It never felt so good, I never felt so hid"[/i]
- Ramona McCandless, Untitled
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Nami Kumamato
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
324
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Posted - 2014.11.18 14:37:12 -
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Jvpiter wrote:Kaarous Aldurald wrote:When I saw this, I thought it was absurd.
I have way, way worse shirts than that. Did you wear them at your job, while being interviewed on international TV for a historic moment for science and the human race? Totally absurd we would want to have a dress code for that.
I heard of a guy who revolutionized physics after dashing out of the bathtub and running butt-naked on the streets screaming things like "Evrika".
[i]"And now my ship is oh so cloaked and fit
It never felt so good, I never felt so hid"[/i]
- Ramona McCandless, Untitled
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Benny Ohu
Chaotic Tranquility
Warp to Cyno.
4170
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Posted - 2014.11.18 14:37:30 -
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Nami Kumamato wrote:You gotta be at least naive that he saw the comments and went OMG OMG i need to make a public apology nao!
I don't discount his own sense but 90% sure one of those higher old cooks there in ESA just approached slowly and whispered softly "You make apology immediately, yes?"
And if he did it so impromptu then all the more respect to the guy - but seriously what else could you do in his situation?
Stay silent and then have an uproar?
You don't think these things through much do you?
of course it could not possibly have been a sincere attempt to acknowledge a mistake made, and you're oh so brave and noble to ride out to defend the man, white knight |
Benny Ohu
Chaotic Tranquility
Warp to Cyno.
4170
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Posted - 2014.11.18 14:38:46 -
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Nami Kumamato wrote:I heard of a guy who revolutionized physics after dashing out of the bathtub and running butt-naked on the streets screaming things like "Evrika".
#sexyscience |
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Nami Kumamato
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
324
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Posted - 2014.11.18 14:39:00 -
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Benny Ohu wrote:Nami Kumamato wrote:You gotta be at least naive that he saw the comments and went OMG OMG i need to make a public apology nao!
I don't discount his own sense but 90% sure one of those higher old cooks there in ESA just approached slowly and whispered softly "You make apology immediately, yes?"
And if he did it so impromptu then all the more respect to the guy - but seriously what else could you do in his situation?
Stay silent and then have an uproar?
You don't think these things through much do you? of course it could not possibly have been a sincere attempt to acknowledge a mistake made, and you're oh so brave and noble to ride out to defend the man, white knight
I am. Problem?
[i]"And now my ship is oh so cloaked and fit
It never felt so good, I never felt so hid"[/i]
- Ramona McCandless, Untitled
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Nami Kumamato
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
324
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Posted - 2014.11.18 14:40:44 -
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Benny Ohu wrote:Nami Kumamato wrote:I heard of a guy who revolutionized physics after dashing out of the bathtub and running butt-naked on the streets screaming things like "Evrika". #sexyscience
Yeap!
Leave science to the scientists and fashion to the fashion-designers.
(Although I'm still trying to find out who the hell is the guy/gal who comes every year and tells me this summer we wear green...I need a chat with him. I need to understand)
[i]"And now my ship is oh so cloaked and fit
It never felt so good, I never felt so hid"[/i]
- Ramona McCandless, Untitled
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Kazekage Dono
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
29
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Posted - 2014.11.18 14:40:45 -
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Nami Kumamato wrote:Kazekage Dono wrote:Don't you people know science is sick? Sick with political correctness syndrome.
I mean obviously when someone is born they automatically get 'the right' never to be offended ... Or wait unlike this scientist guy who ... offended? Wait whut?!?
Oh right only those who have the masses on their side.
Feminism, the exploitation of the female who previously where hard to impossible to be exploited. Now they have money aka more ownership and females are overal easy to manipulate into buying things.
Considering happiness in women is at an all time low. Ya got duped and talked into patching up the fractional bank reserve system. One of the many patches. Cause you know oil never runs out right?
After all this banther clearly i must be a chauvinist. Clearly ... Cause you know stuff.
You're all easy to control emotional fools. Now go watch some sports, greys anatomy and for the europeans some sturm der liebe. :) In the beginning men worked and women stayed at home, cleaned cooked and took care of the kids. Nowadays women work and some men stay at home, clean, cook and take care of the kids. The only difference is you bastards now have kitchen appliances, washing machines, vacuum cleaners, smart-ovens and stuff. It was all planned! Damn you all! Damn you all to hell! You tricked us! (this is a joke)
Guess what, I'm one of those guys who stay at home while my wife goes to work. Something something taking care of the kids not prestigious enough.
Sure whatever i'll take it. Have fun getting up at 6 in the morning ladies! How's your prestigious job going for you now you 'get to' work? |
Kaarous Aldurald
Lords.Of.Midnight
The Devil's Warrior Alliance
10650
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Posted - 2014.11.18 14:41:20 -
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Jvpiter wrote:Kaarous Aldurald wrote:When I saw this, I thought it was absurd.
I have way, way worse shirts than that. Did you wear them at your job, while being interviewed on international TV for a historic moment for science and the human race? Totally absurd we would want to have a dress code for that.
You know what's absurd to me?
That people would cast aside this man's titanic scientific achievement and focus on his t-shirt. People these days have their priorities in life all wrong.
"Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."
One of ours, ten of theirs.
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Benny Ohu
Chaotic Tranquility
Warp to Cyno.
4170
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Posted - 2014.11.18 14:42:16 -
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Nami Kumamato wrote:Benny Ohu wrote:Nami Kumamato wrote:You gotta be at least naive that he saw the comments and went OMG OMG i need to make a public apology nao!
I don't discount his own sense but 90% sure one of those higher old cooks there in ESA just approached slowly and whispered softly "You make apology immediately, yes?"
And if he did it so impromptu then all the more respect to the guy - but seriously what else could you do in his situation?
Stay silent and then have an uproar?
You don't think these things through much do you? of course it could not possibly have been a sincere attempt to acknowledge a mistake made, and you're oh so brave and noble to ride out to defend the man, white knight I am. Problem?
now let me explain to you why in logical thinking (and basic decency) we accept the things people say on the words' own merits rather than assumed or accused motivation of the speaker |
Nami Kumamato
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
324
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Posted - 2014.11.18 14:42:58 -
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Kaarous Aldurald wrote:
You know what's absurd to me?
That people would cast aside this man's titanic scientific achievement and focus on his t-shirt. People these days have their priorities in life all wrong.
Literally this.
[i]"And now my ship is oh so cloaked and fit
It never felt so good, I never felt so hid"[/i]
- Ramona McCandless, Untitled
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Benny Ohu
Chaotic Tranquility
Warp to Cyno.
4170
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Posted - 2014.11.18 14:44:38 -
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Kaarous Aldurald wrote:Jvpiter wrote:Kaarous Aldurald wrote:When I saw this, I thought it was absurd.
I have way, way worse shirts than that. Did you wear them at your job, while being interviewed on international TV for a historic moment for science and the human race? Totally absurd we would want to have a dress code for that. You know what's absurd to me? That people would cast aside this man's titanic scientific achievement and focus on his t-shirt. People these days have their priorities in life all wrong.
again, we look at things in different frames and through logical thinking are fully capable of praising postive things that happened on the day while criticising others
when viewed through the frame of feminism, there was cause for criticism in the presentation of the event. the thing's become way overblown though |
Jvpiter
Jovelike
948
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Posted - 2014.11.18 14:45:21 -
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Nami Kumamato wrote:
I heard of a guy who revolutionized physics after dashing out of the bathtub and running butt-naked on the streets screaming things like "Evrika".
Hey now. I can see you making fun of my name!
This ESA guy didn't make the comet landing happen all on his own. Calling him Archimedes or Einstein is a bit of a stretch.
Call me Joe.
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Nami Kumamato
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
324
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Posted - 2014.11.18 14:46:08 -
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Benny Ohu wrote:Nami Kumamato wrote:Benny Ohu wrote:Nami Kumamato wrote:You gotta be at least naive that he saw the comments and went OMG OMG i need to make a public apology nao!
I don't discount his own sense but 90% sure one of those higher old cooks there in ESA just approached slowly and whispered softly "You make apology immediately, yes?"
And if he did it so impromptu then all the more respect to the guy - but seriously what else could you do in his situation?
Stay silent and then have an uproar?
You don't think these things through much do you? of course it could not possibly have been a sincere attempt to acknowledge a mistake made, and you're oh so brave and noble to ride out to defend the man, white knight I am. Problem? now let me explain to you why in logical thinking (and basic decency) we accept the things people say on the words' own merits rather than assumed or accused motivation of the speaker
Using your logical thinking you cannot exclude the possibility that keeping in mind his role, where he works at, the day and the occasion, there is a 100% certainty that he was not pressured to do so against his wishes?
(Did you ever stop to think that maybe he wore that shirt because his lady/friend gave it to him and was of special sentimental value or it was his lucky shirt maybe? And now he has to apologize for it?)
[i]"And now my ship is oh so cloaked and fit
It never felt so good, I never felt so hid"[/i]
- Ramona McCandless, Untitled
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Nami Kumamato
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
324
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Posted - 2014.11.18 14:47:19 -
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Jvpiter wrote:Nami Kumamato wrote:
I heard of a guy who revolutionized physics after dashing out of the bathtub and running butt-naked on the streets screaming things like "Evrika".
Hey now. I can see you making fun of my name! This ESA guy didn't make the comet landing happen all on his own. Calling him Archimedes or Einstein is a bit of a stretch.
It was about the clothing situation.
If the scientists spent more time worrying about their clothes they wouldn't do much science in the first part.
[i]"And now my ship is oh so cloaked and fit
It never felt so good, I never felt so hid"[/i]
- Ramona McCandless, Untitled
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Benny Ohu
Chaotic Tranquility
Warp to Cyno.
4170
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Posted - 2014.11.18 14:48:54 -
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Nami Kumamato wrote:Using your logical thinking you cannot exclude the possibility that keeping in mind his role, where he works at, the day and the occasion, there is a 100% certainty that he was not pressured to do so against his wishes?
(Did you ever stop to think that maybe he wore that shirt because his lady/friend gave it to him and was of special sentimental value or it was his lucky shirt maybe? And now he has to apologize for it?)
we accept his words as they are meant without insulting the intent (and the speaker) by questioning it
i have already explained the concept of looking through the issue with different lenses |
Kaarous Aldurald
Lords.Of.Midnight
The Devil's Warrior Alliance
10651
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Posted - 2014.11.18 14:50:03 -
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Benny Ohu wrote:
again, we look at things in different frames and through logical thinking are fully capable of praising postive things that happened on the day while criticising others
And if someone's "frame" causes them to ignore what happened that day because of his choice of wardrobe, then they have no value in my eyes.
Seriously, it's ****ing pathetic. The man landed a rocket on a freaking comet, an object moving at ridiculous speed through outer freaking space. He could be wearing a clown wig for all I care. This daytime TV, materialistic, shallow bullshit has gone too far in our society.
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when viewed through the frame of feminism, there was cause for criticism in the presentation of the event. the thing's become way overblown though
I don't care what feminazis think. Especially because their argument in this instance is so very, very off base. They're demonstrating precisely why there are so few women in STEM fields. Because #yesallwomen are hilariously, vehemently hostile to people in the STEM fields.
"Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."
One of ours, ten of theirs.
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Helene Fidard
11
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Posted - 2014.11.18 14:52:03 -
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Nami Kumamato wrote:Using your logical thinking you cannot exclude the possibility that keeping in mind his role, where he works at, the day and the occasion, there is a 100% certainty that he was not pressured to do so against his wishes?
Fellow science nerds of the internet, a science man has been ~unfairly criticized~! But however can we protect him from the unruly feminist hordes?!
We will accuse him of mendaciousness! For justice, AND SCIENCE!!! |
Nami Kumamato
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
324
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Posted - 2014.11.18 14:54:13 -
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Helene Fidard wrote:Nami Kumamato wrote:Using your logical thinking you cannot exclude the possibility that keeping in mind his role, where he works at, the day and the occasion, there is a 100% certainty that he was not pressured to do so against his wishes? Fellow science nerds of the internet, a science man has been ~unfairly criticized~! But however can we protect him from the unruly feminist hordes?! We will accuse him of mendaciousness! For justice, AND SCIENCE!!!
You people and your big words :D
[i]"And now my ship is oh so cloaked and fit
It never felt so good, I never felt so hid"[/i]
- Ramona McCandless, Untitled
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Benny Ohu
Chaotic Tranquility
Warp to Cyno.
4170
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Posted - 2014.11.18 14:57:06 -
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Kaarous Aldurald wrote:Benny Ohu wrote:
again, we look at things in different frames and through logical thinking are fully capable of praising postive things that happened on the day while criticising others
And if someone's "frame" causes them to ignore what happened that day because of his choice of wardrobe, then they have no value in my eyes.
no. talking about an issue from a perspective does not mean you are ignoring other aspects.
for example. let's suppose a cinematographer was commenting on the camerawork in star wars. talking about other parts of the film, such as the script or acting quality, is outside the scope of what's being discussed. in fact, depending on the context of the discussion, such commentary would be viewed as extraneous to the topic. it does not mean the entire film is being ignored. if a particular shot or scene is criticised, it does not mean the film is being criticised as a whole.
Kaarous Aldurald wrote:Quote:
when viewed through the frame of feminism, there was cause for criticism in the presentation of the event. the thing's become way overblown though
I don't care what feminazis think. Especially because their argument in this instance is so very, very off base. They're demonstrating precisely why there are so few women in STEM fields. Because #yesallwomen are hilariously, vehemently hostile to people in the STEM fields.
i haven't seen this hostility. |
Kaarous Aldurald
Lords.Of.Midnight
The Devil's Warrior Alliance
10652
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Posted - 2014.11.18 15:06:02 -
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Benny Ohu wrote:
no. talking about an issue from a perspective does not mean you are ignoring other aspects.
In general, you are correct.
Not in this instance, however. In this instance his achievements have been disregarded because he *gasp* has attractive women on his shirt (that was made for him by a woman, let's not forget).
In this instance one of the crowning space travel achievements of the last decade has been cast aside and forgotten because wimminz.
There is no excuse for that. I wholly deride anyone taking part.
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i haven't seen this hostility.
I sure have. When I was college, I was egged by this hostility. I was stabbed in the ribs while in line at a movie theater by this hostility.
I do not tolerate it in my presence any longer.
"Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."
One of ours, ten of theirs.
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Nami Kumamato
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
325
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Posted - 2014.11.18 15:10:14 -
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Feminism IMO has gotten out of hand and different groups that call themselves feminists go after every thing that they think is anti-woman just to get publicity.
Equality and all - that's crap - yea there's a lot of equality.
Like I get to watch my colleagues sweat in their shirts and jeans or pants in summer while I stroll care free in my short pants or skirt and sleeveless top. And I have no stinky feet cause I get to wear my strapless sandals so you can watch my painted nails all fresh and polished.
And god forbid you'd dare say something cause then HR will cook up a sexual harassment dossier immediately.
Double standards and equality when it suits us.
Pfff...
[i]"And now my ship is oh so cloaked and fit
It never felt so good, I never felt so hid"[/i]
- Ramona McCandless, Untitled
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Agondray
Avenger Mercenaries
VOID Intergalactic Forces
156
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Posted - 2014.11.18 15:10:33 -
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So i looked this guy up to see what the complaint was about.
1 he looks like an awesome guy
2 he landed a a probe on a comet *taking notes on that ccp?*
3 i dont see anyone at work male and female complaining about the guy
4 he probably is married with kids
Lets complain about him not being professionally dressed. I applaud the guy for his work, but like my time in the military, people make looks triumph over everything.
IE much of my leadership in the military is your if your uniform is dirty you are unprofessional despite the fast you lay in a hasty and fight a war.
TL:DR its stupid and let the man do work unless there is actually a crime being committed such as talking down to women he works with or the reporter that didnt have a problem with his clothes
"Sarcasm is the Recourse of a weak mind." -Dr. Smith
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Alpheias
Euphoria Released
Triumvirate.
7539
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Posted - 2014.11.18 15:12:08 -
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Self-victimization is as real as being hypochondriac.
Allow me to be frank. You will not like me. You will not like me now, and you will not like men++ a good deal less as we go on.
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Benny Ohu
Chaotic Tranquility
Warp to Cyno.
4170
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Posted - 2014.11.18 15:19:00 -
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Kaarous Aldurald wrote:Not in this instance, however. In this instance his achievements have been disregarded because he *gasp* has attractive women on his shirt (that was made for him by a woman, let's not forget).
In this instance one of the crowning space travel achievements of the last decade has been cast aside and forgotten because wimminz.
uh. no, it hasn't. the majority of news coverage is about the damn lander. there's a few circles of internet dorks being angry those gosh-darn feminists are ruining our video games who are also being angry about those gosh-darned feminists ruining our comet
Kaarous Aldurald wrote:I sure have. When I was college, I was egged by this hostility. I was stabbed in the ribs while in line at a movie theater by this hostility.
I do not tolerate it in my presence any longer.
i cannot think of any part of feminist philosophy that condones stabbings |
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