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Nami Kumamato
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
318
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Posted - 2014.11.18 11:32:26 -
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...to be accused of being sexist for wearing that shirt should get a formal apology from women all over the world.
Because if feminist movement steeps so low as to accuse that man for being sexist just for wearing a silly shirt while landing a ******* probe on a ******* comet in the ******* ******* of space then it clearly has completely forgotten what feminism is about.
Women who rallied behind that stupid accusation are the very cause of why feminism is viewed the way it is viewed, and bring shame to us all.
Respect to that guy and his team and their work and for advancing the human knowledge of space.
He had to present a public apology in tears on the day that probably would have been the single most greatest day of his life!
[i]"And now my ship is oh so cloaked and fit
It never felt so good, I never felt so hid"[/i]
- Ramona McCandless, Untitled
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Remiel Pollard
Layman's Terms.
Don't Tell Me The Odds
5921
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Posted - 2014.11.18 11:42:51 -
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So yeah... how about that EVE Online game hey?
GÇ£Some capsuleers claim that ECM is 'dishonorable' and 'unfair'.
Jam those ones first, and kill them last.GÇ¥
- Jirai 'Fatal' Laitanen, Pithum Nullifier Training Manual c. YC104
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Ima Wreckyou
The Conference Elite
CODE.
486
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Posted - 2014.11.18 11:47:27 -
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Yes there are a lot of people who play the sexist card for no good reason.
Anyway, I am not sure this is the right forum for this kind of discussion.
the Code ALWAYS wins
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Nami Kumamato
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
318
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Posted - 2014.11.18 11:48:35 -
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Remiel Pollard wrote:So yeah... how about that EVE Online game hey?
It's one of my favourite things!
FYI - Just posting here (in general discussion) to raise an exclamation mark on the subject as personally I believe a great wrong has been done to this man. A scientist and space-geek, a man who's work might probably allow the generations to come to better understand their place among the stars!
[i]"And now my ship is oh so cloaked and fit
It never felt so good, I never felt so hid"[/i]
- Ramona McCandless, Untitled
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Yang Aurilen
The Mjolnir Bloc
The Bloc
525
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Posted - 2014.11.18 12:00:00 -
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EVE Online is sexist because STUFF and it discriminates womyn! I hereby propose renaming EVE Online to ADAM Online!
But seriously what is it with feminist going HURRDEYRAEPMEDURR everytime someone looks at them wrong.
Post with your NPC alt main and not your main main alt!
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Nami Kumamato
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
319
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Posted - 2014.11.18 12:06:22 -
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Yang Aurilen wrote:EVE Online is sexist because STUFF and it discriminates womyn! I hereby propose renaming EVE Online to ADAM Online!
But seriously what is it with feminist going HURRDEYRAEPMEDURR everytime someone looks at them wrong.
:)))) good one
I think because most of them identifying themselves as feminists actually have no idea what feminism is about and simply rally behind that banner because probably past negative experience.
A feminist for example would not want EVE online to be renamed ADAM Online - he or she would want it to be named ADAM & EVE Online - get it?
Anyways, EVE is not under scrutiny here (and I personally never felt discriminated while "in the pod"). This is about that man who was dragged through the mud while trying to make us all smarter.
I guess "ad astra per aspera" is true in his case...
[i]"And now my ship is oh so cloaked and fit
It never felt so good, I never felt so hid"[/i]
- Ramona McCandless, Untitled
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Alpheias
Euphoria Released
Triumvirate.
7470
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Posted - 2014.11.18 12:14:16 -
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I'll just leave this here.
Allow me to be frank. You will not like me. You will not like me now, and you will not like men++ a good deal less as we go on.
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mr ed thehouseofed
Wrought iron Industries
24052
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Posted - 2014.11.18 12:17:16 -
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his wife made the shirt apparently 
i want a eve pinball machine... -áconfirming -áCCP Cognac is best cognac
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Jvpiter
Jovelike
948
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Posted - 2014.11.18 12:21:40 -
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My wife can't be asked to care about this. Why don't I post my rant on an Internet forum echo chamber so that somebody, oh god, actually cares.
"Nami" with the e-boobs, a crusader for manly men and their manly things. Thanks for carrying the torch, she-bro. I'm glad we elected you as our fearless leader.
Call me Joe.
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Nami Kumamato
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
320
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Posted - 2014.11.18 12:25:59 -
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Jvpiter wrote:My wife can't be asked to care about this. Why don't I post my rant on an Internet forum echo chamber so that somebody, oh god, actually cares.
"Nami" with the e-boobs, a crusader for manly men and their manly things. Thanks for carrying the torch, she-bro. I'm glad we elected you as our fearless leader.
I think you missed the idea.
I'm not carrying any torch I just wanted to bring the matter into attention to a community that loves sci-fi and all things space-related.
[i]"And now my ship is oh so cloaked and fit
It never felt so good, I never felt so hid"[/i]
- Ramona McCandless, Untitled
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Alpheias
Euphoria Released
Triumvirate.
7473
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Posted - 2014.11.18 12:32:09 -
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Nami Kumamato wrote:Jvpiter wrote:My wife can't be asked to care about this. Why don't I post my rant on an Internet forum echo chamber so that somebody, oh god, actually cares.
"Nami" with the e-boobs, a crusader for manly men and their manly things. Thanks for carrying the torch, she-bro. I'm glad we elected you as our fearless leader. I think you missed the idea. I'm not carrying any torch I just wanted to bring the matter into attention to a community that loves sci-fi, science and all things space-related.
FYP
Allow me to be frank. You will not like me. You will not like me now, and you will not like men++ a good deal less as we go on.
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Jvpiter
Jovelike
948
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Posted - 2014.11.18 12:34:34 -
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Nami Kumamato wrote:
I think you missed the idea.
I'm not carrying any torch I just wanted to bring the matter into attention to a community that loves sci-fi and all things space-related.
Let me check.
No, I still don't care.
Call me Joe.
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Deck Cadelanne
Exigent Circumstances
CAStabouts
67
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Posted - 2014.11.18 12:36:47 -
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OOPE...OOPE...OOPE
"When the going gets weird, the weird turn professional."
- Hunter S. Thompson
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Nami Kumamato
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
320
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Posted - 2014.11.18 12:37:38 -
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Jvpiter wrote:Nami Kumamato wrote:
I think you missed the idea.
I'm not carrying any torch I just wanted to bring the matter into attention to a community that loves sci-fi and all things space-related.
Let me check. No, I still don't care.
Then why are you wasting your time posting in this thread? Just saying...
[i]"And now my ship is oh so cloaked and fit
It never felt so good, I never felt so hid"[/i]
- Ramona McCandless, Untitled
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Jvpiter
Jovelike
948
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Posted - 2014.11.18 12:39:40 -
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Nami Kumamato wrote:
Then why are you wasting your time posting in this thread? Just saying...
It's no problem, really.
Why do you hate women, Nami? Did you have problems, you know, in that department?
Call me Joe.
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Nami Kumamato
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
320
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Posted - 2014.11.18 12:42:55 -
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Jvpiter wrote:Nami Kumamato wrote:
Then why are you wasting your time posting in this thread? Just saying...
It's no problem, really. Why do you hate women, Nami? Did you have problems, you know, in that department?
As a woman it will be a bit difficult to hate women, however at a certain level all women hate other women, I guess... it's hard to explain.
I don't hate women - if that's all you got from my initial post - I just think that the feminists that rallied behind the "public beating" of that man did a very insensible and baseless thing, did not research the matter and as a result made the feminist movement look even worse.
[i]"And now my ship is oh so cloaked and fit
It never felt so good, I never felt so hid"[/i]
- Ramona McCandless, Untitled
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Jvpiter
Jovelike
948
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Posted - 2014.11.18 12:45:06 -
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Nami Kumamato wrote:
As a woman it will be a bit difficult to hate women, however at a certain level all women hate other women, I guess... it's hard to explain.
I don't hate women - if that's all you got from my initial post - I just think that the feminists that rallied behind the "public beating" of that man did a very insensible and baseless thing, did not research the matter and as a result made the feminist movement look even worse.
Great.
Did you have some difficulty finding the right forum to go on your rant?
Call me Joe.
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Nami Kumamato
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
320
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Posted - 2014.11.18 12:47:58 -
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Jvpiter wrote:Nami Kumamato wrote:
As a woman it will be a bit difficult to hate women, however at a certain level all women hate other women, I guess... it's hard to explain.
I don't hate women - if that's all you got from my initial post - I just think that the feminists that rallied behind the "public beating" of that man did a very insensible and baseless thing, did not research the matter and as a result made the feminist movement look even worse.
Great. Did you have some difficulty finding the right forum to go on your rant?
Nope!
If the mods want to move it or close it I'm sure they will.
I am sorry if my thread spoiled your perception of serenity and coherence that General Discussion should have. Honestly.
[i]"And now my ship is oh so cloaked and fit
It never felt so good, I never felt so hid"[/i]
- Ramona McCandless, Untitled
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Josef Djugashvilis
2681
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Posted - 2014.11.18 12:49:54 -
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I thought it was nice to see him judged by his appearance.
Perhaps he will now have a much greater understanding of what many women have to put up with.
Great work by all the Rosetta folk though.
This is not a signature.
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Benny Ohu
Chaotic Tranquility
Warp to Cyno.
4161
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Posted - 2014.11.18 12:52:48 -
[20] - Quote
Nami Kumamato wrote:...to be accused of being sexist for wearing that shirt should get a formal apology from women all over the world.
Because if feminist movement steeps so low as to accuse that man for being sexist just for wearing a silly shirt while landing a ******* probe on a ******* comet in the ******* ******* of space then it clearly has completely forgotten what feminism is about.
Women who rallied behind that stupid accusation are the very cause of why feminism is viewed the way it is viewed, and bring shame to us all.
Respect to that guy and his team and their work and for advancing the human knowledge of space.
He had to present a public apology in tears on the day that probably would have been the single most greatest day of his life!
it's possible to recognise positive things that happened on the day while criticising other things. looking at the presentation through a feminist frame, the shirt was given criticism
the man acknowledged a wrong and now a bunch of angry internet dorks can't respect his apology and move on
mr ed thehouseofed wrote:his wife made the shirt apparently
yeah this part's a bit awkward. i can imagine that if this is true, he wore the shirt to please his wife, which is sweet. we can acknowledge a person's intention is different to the message sent. it's not about labelling the man or diminishing the achievement of the day. this is something that some people refuse to understand |
Jvpiter
Jovelike
948
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Posted - 2014.11.18 12:56:42 -
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Nami Kumamato wrote:
Nope!
If the mods want to move it or close it I'm sure they will.
I am sorry if my thread spoiled your perception of serenity and coherence that General Discussion should have. Honestly.
Yes my faith in General Discussion has been shattered.
Can you send me some ISK so I can comfort myself with a shopping spree in Jita?
Call me Joe.
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TharOkha
0asis Group
941
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Posted - 2014.11.18 13:03:17 -
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so humans have achieved another milestone in science and space exploration.
after 20 years of preparation and 10 years of spaceflight, they landed a probe on a tiny comet with near to zero gravity.
..and feminists one and only problem is what **** scientist wears....
Yep... that's why aliens do not want to make contact with us 
CODE. Venture hunt contest in a nutshell
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Remiel Pollard
Layman's Terms.
Don't Tell Me The Odds
5922
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Posted - 2014.11.18 13:04:54 -
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TharOkha wrote:Yep... that's why aliens do not want to make contact with us
What if they already have, but we're just too stupid to notice? 
GÇ£Some capsuleers claim that ECM is 'dishonorable' and 'unfair'.
Jam those ones first, and kill them last.GÇ¥
- Jirai 'Fatal' Laitanen, Pithum Nullifier Training Manual c. YC104
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Nami Kumamato
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
321
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Posted - 2014.11.18 13:06:36 -
[24] - Quote
Jvpiter wrote:Nami Kumamato wrote:
Nope!
If the mods want to move it or close it I'm sure they will.
I am sorry if my thread spoiled your perception of serenity and coherence that General Discussion should have. Honestly.
Yes my faith in General Discussion has been shattered. Can you send me some ISK so I can comfort myself with a shopping spree in Jita?
How much are we talking?
[i]"And now my ship is oh so cloaked and fit
It never felt so good, I never felt so hid"[/i]
- Ramona McCandless, Untitled
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Benny Ohu
Chaotic Tranquility
Warp to Cyno.
4162
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Posted - 2014.11.18 13:07:10 -
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... because the feminist movement is about looking at and commenting on women's place in society. not comets. we look at things through different frames of view to order our thinking |
Benny Ohu
Chaotic Tranquility
Warp to Cyno.
4162
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Posted - 2014.11.18 13:09:38 -
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GREAT EXCUSE TO HARASS WOMEN ON TWITTER THOUGH RIGHT FELLAS
WINKWINKWINK |
MidnightWyvern
Night Theifs
DamnedNation
67
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Posted - 2014.11.18 13:12:54 -
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Remiel Pollard wrote:So yeah... how about that EVE Online game hey?
OOPE must not be posted in very often considering how many threads that belong there end up here.
But, while I'm here, I agree that jumping all over someone for a T-shirt is ludicrous.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=eaUaJUhTZfw#t=148s
An excellent example of why pod killmails are the best feature to be implemented in EVE Online since warping at zero.
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Jvpiter
Jovelike
948
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Posted - 2014.11.18 13:17:49 -
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Nami Kumamato wrote:
How much are we talking?
Zero! Trolls like mine should never be rewarded
For the record I like the shirt.
We have chemical engineers at my job who wear all manners of things that are probably inappropriate. Nobody who might care actually sees them because these guys are in and around equipment all day. Now, what if a woman joined their team and was exposed to these things daily? I think it depends on the woman, and the woman I know from the legal department who works with them doesn't find it to be an issue of sexism. But I have to wonder. What if another woman got uncomfortable? Would she have a legitimate gripe? Might this hypothetical complainer blow things out of proportion?
Anyone else see the walking in NYC 10 hours video?
Call me Joe.
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Alpheias
Euphoria Released
Triumvirate.
7503
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Posted - 2014.11.18 13:18:31 -
[29] - Quote
Well, I think a lot of people really ought to kill themselves.
Why? Saves me the hassle and I got **** to do.
Allow me to be frank. You will not like me. You will not like me now, and you will not like men++ a good deal less as we go on.
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Remiel Pollard
Layman's Terms.
Don't Tell Me The Odds
5923
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Posted - 2014.11.18 13:21:08 -
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Fella*
One dude, dude. Just one. If there were others, then you certainly do have a different way of thinking than a rational human being might if you're suggesting that such a population sample is representative of the entire population.
I don't really care much for feminism. Up until I was 15, I didn't even know discrimination was a thing. When I first heard about it, I was appalled.
But as long as the girls I know are still talking about Brad Pitt like he's a sex toy, I'll be damned if someone wearing a shirt with some cartoon women on it is something worth 'criminalising' a person with a mind that's contributed to the scientific and academic community more than ten times that of his accusers.
GÇ£Some capsuleers claim that ECM is 'dishonorable' and 'unfair'.
Jam those ones first, and kill them last.GÇ¥
- Jirai 'Fatal' Laitanen, Pithum Nullifier Training Manual c. YC104
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Gaan Cathal
Angry Mustellid
The Periphery
38
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Posted - 2014.11.18 13:21:31 -
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Benny Ohu wrote:mr ed thehouseofed wrote:his wife made the shirt apparently yeah this part's a bit awkward. i can imagine that if this is true, he wore the shirt to please his wife, which is sweet. we can acknowledge a person's intention is different to the message sent. it's not about labelling the man or diminishing the achievement of the day. this is something that some people refuse to understand
It was a birthday present made for him by a female friend apparently, not his wife.
However what happened was he did a downright lovely thing by choosing to wear a present someone made for him when appearing on TV. He then got harassed and bullied for it (you really think he broke down during the apology because he suddenly realised the shirt made him Literally Worse Than ******?).
There would've been a justification if the shirt had actually been offensive of course, but it wasn't. Images of women are not offensive in and of themselves, and I didn't see any of the women on said shirt getting raped or 'making a sammich'.
And yes, this belongs in offtopic because Matt Taylor's space isn't a liquid and he doesn't have an "orbit at x" button. |
Debora Tsung
The Investment Bankers Guild
1334
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Posted - 2014.11.18 13:21:41 -
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Nami Kumamato wrote:As a woman it will be a bit difficult to hate women.
Ahum...
Tho really, it ain't that hard, alot of women hate alot of other women, being one don't change a thing.
Stupidity should be a bannable offense.
Also This --> https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=216699
Please stop making "afk cloak" threads, thanks in advance.
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Nami Kumamato
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
321
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Posted - 2014.11.18 13:23:26 -
[33] - Quote
Debora Tsung wrote:Nami Kumamato wrote:As a woman it will be a bit difficult to hate women. Ahum...Tho really, it ain't that hard, alot of women hate alot of other women, being one don't change a thing.
Ahum stop quoting out of context.
[i]"And now my ship is oh so cloaked and fit
It never felt so good, I never felt so hid"[/i]
- Ramona McCandless, Untitled
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Debora Tsung
The Investment Bankers Guild
1334
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Posted - 2014.11.18 13:25:25 -
[34] - Quote
Nami Kumamato wrote:stop quoting
HA! You wish!
Stupidity should be a bannable offense.
Also This --> https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=216699
Please stop making "afk cloak" threads, thanks in advance.
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Benny Ohu
Chaotic Tranquility
Warp to Cyno.
4165
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Posted - 2014.11.18 13:28:26 -
[35] - Quote
Jvpiter wrote:Anyone else see the walking in NYC 10 hours video?
there's one part where a guy comes up to the girl and says hello. when she doesn't respond he says something like 'bye, have a good day'. i remember thinking Well Okay Nothing Wrong With That Then, but he then started following her around which is Not Okay
the video's come under criticism from a racial perspective - the makers edited out footage of white people who were also making inappropriate comments. according to them, the people making those comments were poorly heard by the mic or were off-camera. they've acknowledged the poor racial message this sends if i remember right |
Nami Kumamato
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
322
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Posted - 2014.11.18 13:28:33 -
[36] - Quote
Jvpiter wrote:Nami Kumamato wrote:
How much are we talking?
Zero! Trolls like mine should never be rewarded For the record I like the shirt. We have chemical engineers at my job who wear all manners of things that are probably inappropriate. Nobody who might care actually sees them because these guys are in and around equipment all day. Now, what if a woman joined their team and was exposed to these things daily? I think it depends on the woman, and the woman I know from the legal department who works with them doesn't find it to be an issue of sexism. But I have to wonder. What if another woman got uncomfortable? Would she have a legitimate gripe? Might this hypothetical complainer blow things out of proportion? Anyone else see the walking in NYC 10 hours video?
Society today tends to be very appearance-oriented when making judgement calls.
If you want something you will try to look your best ain't it? A job interview, or a date - you dress to impress. This is becoming true for both men and women. try to get a managerial job wearing a tee and slashed jeans - best of luck!
And women abuse it (shocking I know). Because we can, and because we know men like it.
Then saying that a man is sexist by wearing that shirt is nothing less than hypocritical. Especially on that day.
As a woman I think the so called feminists of today should really get their heads out of their asses and of the Victorian world they still think they live in.
Today at work I'm wearing a T2: Judgement Day shirt with Arnold on it - do I offend any men? Don't think so.
Worst case scenario they'd rather check the boobs then what's on the shirt.
If I want to make things worse I'll go "commando" and then I'm pretty sure all the sexist, sociological and philosophical implications of me wearing a shirt with a buffed up man on it would vanish.
This may come as a shocker for some but generally women with sense in them really don't care if you wear something with naked cartoon ladies on you ( unless meeting the mother or some stuff like that :P ), some even like it. It's all about taste and as we know "de gustibus non est disputandum".
[i]"And now my ship is oh so cloaked and fit
It never felt so good, I never felt so hid"[/i]
- Ramona McCandless, Untitled
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Nami Kumamato
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
322
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Posted - 2014.11.18 13:29:21 -
[37] - Quote
Debora Tsung wrote:Nami Kumamato wrote:stop quoting HA! You wish!
+1
[i]"And now my ship is oh so cloaked and fit
It never felt so good, I never felt so hid"[/i]
- Ramona McCandless, Untitled
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Benny Ohu
Chaotic Tranquility
Warp to Cyno.
4165
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Posted - 2014.11.18 13:35:55 -
[38] - Quote
Remiel Pollard wrote:One dude, dude. Just one. If there were others, then you certainly do have a different way of thinking than a rational human being might if you're suggesting that such a population sample is representative of the entire population.
I don't really care much for feminism. Up until I was 15, I didn't even know discrimination was a thing. When I first heard about it, I was appalled.
But as long as the girls I know are still talking about Brad Pitt like he's a sex toy, I'll be damned if someone wearing a shirt with some cartoon women on it is something worth 'criminalising' a person with a mind that's contributed to the scientific and academic community more than ten times that of his accusers.
didn't read further than the title huh
that ~mind of such high value~ recognised and apologised for his mistake. since his opinion is so much more worthy than ours i think we should follow his example don't you
has brad pitt complained about his popular perception. i don't know the man |
Esan Vartesa
Samarkand Financial
322
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Posted - 2014.11.18 13:36:22 -
[39] - Quote
This is a sensitive topic and I feel this to be an inappropriate venue for such a discussion. And I don't just mean GD, I mean anywhere on CCP's forums.
I'm also deeply suspicious of anyone using the defense "I'm a woman so you can't accuse me of being a misogynist ***wipe" on completely anonymous forums.
Also also, if a woman gave him that shirt, that woman is just as guilty for her poor decision as the man is for his decision to wear it. |
Benny Ohu
Chaotic Tranquility
Warp to Cyno.
4165
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Posted - 2014.11.18 13:38:39 -
[40] - Quote
Gaan Cathal wrote:However what happened was he did a downright lovely thing by choosing to wear a present someone made for him when appearing on TV. He then got harassed and bullied for it (you really think he broke down during the apology because he suddenly realised the shirt made him Literally Worse Than ******?).
There would've been a justification if the shirt had actually been offensive of course, but it wasn't. Images of women are not offensive in and of themselves, and I didn't see any of the women on said shirt getting raped or 'making a sammich'.
And yes, this belongs in offtopic because Matt Taylor's space isn't a liquid and he doesn't have an "orbit at x" button.
i have no idea what the guy is thinking and neither do you, the shirt was inappopriate in the context it was worn, and this topic doesn't belong anywhere |
Benny Ohu
Chaotic Tranquility
Warp to Cyno.
4165
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Posted - 2014.11.18 13:40:43 -
[41] - Quote
Esan Vartesa wrote:This is a sensitive topic and I feel this to be an inappropriate venue for such a discussion. And I don't just mean GD, I mean anywhere on CCP's forums.
oh someone said this before me :(
Esan Vartesa wrote:Also also, if a woman gave him that shirt, that woman is just as guilty for her poor decision as the man is for his decision to wear it.
ah, i don't think the shirt's a problem in many social settings |
Nami Kumamato
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
322
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Posted - 2014.11.18 13:42:41 -
[42] - Quote
Benny Ohu wrote:Gaan Cathal wrote:However what happened was he did a downright lovely thing by choosing to wear a present someone made for him when appearing on TV. He then got harassed and bullied for it (you really think he broke down during the apology because he suddenly realised the shirt made him Literally Worse Than ******?).
There would've been a justification if the shirt had actually been offensive of course, but it wasn't. Images of women are not offensive in and of themselves, and I didn't see any of the women on said shirt getting raped or 'making a sammich'.
And yes, this belongs in offtopic because Matt Taylor's space isn't a liquid and he doesn't have an "orbit at x" button. i have no idea what the guy is thinking and neither do you, the shirt was inappopriate in the context it was worn, and this topic doesn't belong anywhere
I'll believe in things like his shirt being sexist and an afront to women when I'll see all women wearing knee-level skirts and buttoned up shirts.
This is coming from a woman. Who can be very misogynistic at times.
The matter that it was innapropriate for the event - fashion-related, understandable.
The fact that it states that women are not welcome in science and are looked down upon in today's world, baseless.
[i]"And now my ship is oh so cloaked and fit
It never felt so good, I never felt so hid"[/i]
- Ramona McCandless, Untitled
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Jvpiter
Jovelike
948
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Posted - 2014.11.18 13:43:07 -
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Nami Kumamato wrote:.... T2: Judgement Day shirt with Arnold on it .... I'll go "commando"
Speaking of out of context quoting, going Commando in a T2 shirt would be hitting two Arnold references in the same outfit.
+1
Benny Ohu wrote:Jvpiter wrote:Anyone else see the walking in NYC 10 hours video? there's one part where a guy comes up to the girl and says hello. when she doesn't respond he says something like 'bye, have a good day'. i remember thinking Well Okay Nothing Wrong With That Then, but he then started following her around which is Not Okay the video's come under criticism from a racial perspective - the makers edited out footage of white people who were also making inappropriate comments. according to them, the people making those comments were poorly heard by the mic or were off-camera. they've acknowledged the poor racial message this sends if i remember right
Sure. I've been in a few discussions about the video both in and out of work and it has been an emotional, complicated mess. The fellow you mention is one extreme example from the video.
Call me Joe.
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Nami Kumamato
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
322
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Posted - 2014.11.18 13:46:07 -
[44] - Quote
Jvpiter wrote:
Speaking of out of context quoting, going Commando in a T2 shirt would be hitting two Arnold references in the same outfit.
+1
I'm awesome like that !
[i]"And now my ship is oh so cloaked and fit
It never felt so good, I never felt so hid"[/i]
- Ramona McCandless, Untitled
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Benny Ohu
Chaotic Tranquility
Warp to Cyno.
4165
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Posted - 2014.11.18 13:53:49 -
[45] - Quote
Nami Kumamato wrote:I'll believe in things like his shirt being sexist and an afront to women when I'll see all women wearing knee-level skirts and buttoned up shirts.
This is coming from a woman. Who can be very misogynistic at times.
The matter that it was innapropriate for the event - fashion-related, understandable.
The fact that it states that women are not welcome in science and are looked down upon in today's world, baseless.
there's a difference between a man wearing such a shirt and a woman who wants to look good
i can't remember the name behind the idea - sexual liberation? the idea is that a woman's sexuality and body are hers to enjoy. that is, a women dressing to look good to men because she enjoys it is liberating. she makes a choice because it makes her feel good. she owns her sexuality and her body and she does what she wants with them. she doesn't deserve criticism for that and noone should tell her not to
now when a woman's body (fake women on shirts) is being used purely for the enjoyment of others, it becomes a different situation. there was a star trek movie recently, i think, where the movie was criticised for having one of the actresses nude for no real reason? look at what's being criticised. the actress is not. she's doing a job she chose to do, she says well i'm fine with taking my clothes off for the job. that's ok. the choices of the management to depict a nude woman for the sake of pleasing an assumed male audience for tickets or promotion, that will be criticised |
Helene Fidard
11
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Posted - 2014.11.18 13:59:34 -
[46] - Quote
Nami Kumamato wrote::wardrums:
EVE-O Presents: The Internet |
Nami Kumamato
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
322
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Posted - 2014.11.18 14:00:36 -
[47] - Quote
Benny Ohu wrote:Nami Kumamato wrote:I'll believe in things like his shirt being sexist and an afront to women when I'll see all women wearing knee-level skirts and buttoned up shirts.
This is coming from a woman. Who can be very misogynistic at times.
The matter that it was innapropriate for the event - fashion-related, understandable.
The fact that it states that women are not welcome in science and are looked down upon in today's world, baseless. there's a difference between a man wearing such a shirt and a woman who wants to look good i can't remember the name behind the idea - sexual liberation? the idea is that a woman's sexuality and body are hers to enjoy. that is, a women dressing to look good to men because she enjoys it is liberating. she makes a choice because it makes her feel good. she owns her sexuality and her body and she does what she wants with them. she doesn't deserve criticism for that and noone should tell her not to now when a woman's body (fake women on shirts) is being used purely for the enjoyment of others, it becomes a different situation. there was a star trek movie recently, i think, where the movie was criticised for having one of the actresses nude for no real reason? look at what's being criticised. the actress is not. she's doing a job she chose to do, she says well i'm fine with taking my clothes off for the job. that's ok. the choices of the management to depict a nude woman for the sake of pleasing an assumed male audience for tickets or promotion, that will be criticised
Dude the same day this happened (if i remember correctly) Kim Kardashian released the "Break the Internet" set of picks where she's in her "baby suit".
Did you hear anything about that from the same feminist movement? Because actions like that promote sexism you know.
Now this guy, a brilliant man, has his career possibly ruined because some quack felt offended by the drawn women on his shirt. But "like-ing" semi-nudes of Kim is totally OK.
So in a world that sees nothing wrong with drooling after KK's butt and her publicly posting pics of her nude - we go after a scientist who has a shirt with drawn not naked women? Seriously now...
Also the leader of the same feminist group that went after the dude has pictures of her in a "Bathe In Male Tears" sweatshirt on her Faceboook page. So yeah...
[i]"And now my ship is oh so cloaked and fit
It never felt so good, I never felt so hid"[/i]
- Ramona McCandless, Untitled
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Darek Castigatus
Immortalis Inc.
Shadow Cartel
635
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Posted - 2014.11.18 14:04:11 -
[48] - Quote
My take on it is fairly simple
Was it deliberately sexist? - I dont think so, he doesnt strike me as the kind of man who would do something like that deliberately.
Was it stupid - probably although I can understand his reasons for it.
Should he have been crucified the way he has been - absolutely not, a simple "that was rather inappropriate" followed by an apology should have sufficed. Theres no excuse for the way some people have gone after him.
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BuckStrider
Nano-Tech Experiments
483
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Posted - 2014.11.18 14:05:39 -
[49] - Quote
Nami Kumamato wrote:...to be accused of being sexist for wearing that shirt should get a formal apology from women all over the world.
Because if feminist movement steeps so low as to accuse that man for being sexist just for wearing a silly shirt while landing a ******* probe on a ******* comet in the ******* ******* of space then it clearly has completely forgotten what feminism is about.
Women who rallied behind that stupid accusation are the very cause of why feminism is viewed the way it is viewed, and bring shame to us all.
Respect to that guy and his team and their work and for advancing the human knowledge of space.
He had to present a public apology in tears on the day that probably would have been the single most greatest day of his life!
It was one small shirt for man, one giant step backwards for women.
Also let's not forget this....You owe your very existence to a man sexually objectifying a woman.
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Nami Kumamato
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
322
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Posted - 2014.11.18 14:05:56 -
[50] - Quote
Darek Castigatus wrote:My take on it is fairly simple
Was it deliberately sexist? - I dont think so, he doesnt strike me as the kind of man who would do something like that deliberately.
Was it stupid - probably although I can understand his reasons for it.
Should he have been crucified the way he has been - absolutely not, a simple "that was rather inappropriate" followed by an apology should have sufficed. Theres no excuse for the way some people have gone after him.
I am not alone!
[i]"And now my ship is oh so cloaked and fit
It never felt so good, I never felt so hid"[/i]
- Ramona McCandless, Untitled
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mr ed thehouseofed
Wrought iron Industries
24077
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Posted - 2014.11.18 14:06:46 -
[51] - Quote
hmmm
i want a eve pinball machine... -áconfirming -áCCP Cognac is best cognac
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Benny Ohu
Chaotic Tranquility
Warp to Cyno.
4169
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Posted - 2014.11.18 14:07:47 -
[52] - Quote
Nami Kumamato wrote:Dude the same day this happened (if i remember correctly) Kim Kardashian released the "Break the Internet" set of picks where she's in her "baby suit".
Did you hear anything about that from the same feminist movement? Because actions like that promote sexism you know.
Now this guy, a brilliant man, has his career possibly ruined because some quack felt offended by the drawn women on his shirt. But "like-ing" semi-nudes of Kim is totally OK.
So in a world that sees nothing wrong with drooling after KK's butt and her publicly posting pics of her nude - we go after a scientist who has a shirt with drawn not naked women? Seriously now...
Also the leader of the same feminist group that went after the dude has pictures of her in a "Bathe In Male Tears" sweatshirt on her Faceboook page. So yeah...
i just googled 'kim kardashian feminism' and got like a billion results
the bathe in male tears thing is pretty obviously open mockey of dumb idiots |
Nami Kumamato
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
322
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Posted - 2014.11.18 14:09:31 -
[53] - Quote
Benny Ohu wrote:Nami Kumamato wrote:Dude the same day this happened (if i remember correctly) Kim Kardashian released the "Break the Internet" set of picks where she's in her "baby suit".
Did you hear anything about that from the same feminist movement? Because actions like that promote sexism you know.
Now this guy, a brilliant man, has his career possibly ruined because some quack felt offended by the drawn women on his shirt. But "like-ing" semi-nudes of Kim is totally OK.
So in a world that sees nothing wrong with drooling after KK's butt and her publicly posting pics of her nude - we go after a scientist who has a shirt with drawn not naked women? Seriously now...
Also the leader of the same feminist group that went after the dude has pictures of her in a "Bathe In Male Tears" sweatshirt on her Faceboook page. So yeah...
i just googled 'kim kardashian feminism' and got like a billion results the bathe in male tears thing is pretty obviously open mockey of dumb idiots
yes but did you saw a public apology filled with tears?
[i]"And now my ship is oh so cloaked and fit
It never felt so good, I never felt so hid"[/i]
- Ramona McCandless, Untitled
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Kazekage Dono
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
29
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Posted - 2014.11.18 14:10:05 -
[54] - Quote
Don't you people know science is sick? Sick with political correctness syndrome.
I mean obviously when someone is born they automatically get 'the right' never to be offended ... Or wait unlike this scientist guy who ... offended? Wait whut?!?
Oh right only those who have the masses on their side.
Feminism, the exploitation of the female who previously where hard to impossible to be exploited. Now they have money aka more ownership and females are overal easy to manipulate into buying things.
Considering happiness in women is at an all time low. Ya got duped and talked into patching up the fractional bank reserve system. One of the many patches. Cause you know oil never runs out right?
After all this banther clearly i must be a chauvinist. Clearly ... Cause you know stuff.
You're all easy to control emotional fools. Now go watch some sports, greys anatomy and for the europeans some sturm der liebe. |
Benny Ohu
Chaotic Tranquility
Warp to Cyno.
4169
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Posted - 2014.11.18 14:14:27 -
[55] - Quote
Nami Kumamato wrote:yes but did you saw a public apology filled with tears?
yet again. you don't know why someone cries if they do not tell you. the man acknowledged a mistake and apparently there's a lot of people out there completely disregarding his own opinion and yet claim to defend him |
Nami Kumamato
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
322
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Posted - 2014.11.18 14:14:32 -
[56] - Quote
Kazekage Dono wrote:Don't you people know science is sick? Sick with political correctness syndrome.
I mean obviously when someone is born they automatically get 'the right' never to be offended ... Or wait unlike this scientist guy who ... offended? Wait whut?!?
Oh right only those who have the masses on their side.
Feminism, the exploitation of the female who previously where hard to impossible to be exploited. Now they have money aka more ownership and females are overal easy to manipulate into buying things.
Considering happiness in women is at an all time low. Ya got duped and talked into patching up the fractional bank reserve system. One of the many patches. Cause you know oil never runs out right?
After all this banther clearly i must be a chauvinist. Clearly ... Cause you know stuff.
You're all easy to control emotional fools. Now go watch some sports, greys anatomy and for the europeans some sturm der liebe.
:)
In the beginning men worked and women stayed at home, cleaned cooked and took care of the kids.
Nowadays women work and some men stay at home, clean, cook and take care of the kids. The only difference is you bastards now have kitchen appliances, washing machines, vacuum cleaners, smart-ovens and stuff. It was all planned! Damn you all! Damn you all to hell! You tricked us!
(this is a joke)
[i]"And now my ship is oh so cloaked and fit
It never felt so good, I never felt so hid"[/i]
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Nami Kumamato
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
322
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Posted - 2014.11.18 14:15:53 -
[57] - Quote
Benny Ohu wrote:Nami Kumamato wrote:yes but did you saw a public apology filled with tears? yet again. you don't know why someone cries if they do not tell you. the man acknowledged a mistake and apparently there's a lot of people out there completely disregarding his own opinion and yet claim to defend him
He is (and hopefully still is) a member of ESA.
He had to make an apology to save face. This how big things work ;)
[i]"And now my ship is oh so cloaked and fit
It never felt so good, I never felt so hid"[/i]
- Ramona McCandless, Untitled
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Benny Ohu
Chaotic Tranquility
Warp to Cyno.
4169
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Posted - 2014.11.18 14:16:05 -
[58] - Quote
Kazekage Dono wrote:Don't you people know science is sick? Sick with political correctness syndrome.
I mean obviously when someone is born they automatically get 'the right' never to be offended ... Or wait unlike this scientist guy who ... offended? Wait whut?!?
Oh right only those who have the masses on their side.
Feminism, the exploitation of the female who previously where hard to impossible to be exploited. Now they have money aka more ownership and females are overal easy to manipulate into buying things.
Considering happiness in women is at an all time low. Ya got duped and talked into patching up the fractional bank reserve system. One of the many patches. Cause you know oil never runs out right?
After all this banther clearly i must be a chauvinist. Clearly ... Cause you know stuff.
You're all easy to control emotional fools. Now go watch some sports, greys anatomy and for the europeans some sturm der liebe.
omg |
Benny Ohu
Chaotic Tranquility
Warp to Cyno.
4170
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Posted - 2014.11.18 14:17:30 -
[59] - Quote
Nami Kumamato wrote:Benny Ohu wrote:Nami Kumamato wrote:yes but did you saw a public apology filled with tears? yet again. you don't know why someone cries if they do not tell you. the man acknowledged a mistake and apparently there's a lot of people out there completely disregarding his own opinion and yet claim to defend him He is (and hopefully still is) a member of ESA. He had to make an apology to save face. This how big things work ;)
how interesting that you know more about the guy than he tells you, white knight |
Indahmawar Fazmarai
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Posted - 2014.11.18 14:19:10 -
[60] - Quote
I read the OP. Then looked for the story. Now I want 0.5 IQ back.
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Nami Kumamato
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
323
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Posted - 2014.11.18 14:20:04 -
[61] - Quote
Benny Ohu wrote:Nami Kumamato wrote:Benny Ohu wrote:Nami Kumamato wrote:yes but did you saw a public apology filled with tears? yet again. you don't know why someone cries if they do not tell you. the man acknowledged a mistake and apparently there's a lot of people out there completely disregarding his own opinion and yet claim to defend him He is (and hopefully still is) a member of ESA. He had to make an apology to save face. This how big things work ;) how interesting that you know more about the guy than he tells you, white knight
Dude, if a CCP member would be in this situation you would see an apology the next second.
It's how corps work in the real world.
You get that memo with "Make a public apology. Nao! This could reflect bad on the company!" at which point you automatically comply.
[i]"And now my ship is oh so cloaked and fit
It never felt so good, I never felt so hid"[/i]
- Ramona McCandless, Untitled
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Kaarous Aldurald
Lords.Of.Midnight
The Devil's Warrior Alliance
10649
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Posted - 2014.11.18 14:25:32 -
[62] - Quote
When I saw this, I thought it was absurd.
I have way, way worse shirts than that.
"Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."
One of ours, ten of theirs.
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Nami Kumamato
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
323
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Posted - 2014.11.18 14:30:14 -
[63] - Quote
Kaarous Aldurald wrote:When I saw this, I thought it was absurd.
I have way, way worse shirts than that.
Pretty soon I won't be able to wear my Gimli shirt because I'll offend the well...dwarves.
I won't be able to wear my Arnold shirt because I'll offend the skinny guys
I can't wear my Emilie Autumn shirt because I offend the schizophrenics.
And not even the EVE shirt cause I'll offend the Christians (or the WoW guys, I don't know).
You can't drop a pin today without offending someone. That's how we get in those white shirts and walk in line to take our daily pills to suppress the feelings :D And then Christian Bale comes and saves us.
[i]"And now my ship is oh so cloaked and fit
It never felt so good, I never felt so hid"[/i]
- Ramona McCandless, Untitled
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Benny Ohu
Chaotic Tranquility
Warp to Cyno.
4170
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Posted - 2014.11.18 14:30:25 -
[64] - Quote
Nami Kumamato wrote:Dude, if a CCP member would be in this situation you would see an apology the next second.
It's how corps work in the real world.
You get that memo with "Make a public apology. Nao! This could reflect bad on the company!" at which point you automatically comply.
gosh i had no idea your perfect knowledge could immediately discount any other reasons behind making a personal inpromptu apology, white knight |
Helene Fidard
11
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Posted - 2014.11.18 14:33:33 -
[65] - Quote
Nami Kumamato wrote:Also the leader of the same feminist group that went after the dude has pictures of her in a "Bathe In Male Tears" sweatshirt on her Faceboook page. So yeah...
miniluv strikes again!
Benny Ohu wrote:Nami Kumamato wrote:He is (and hopefully still is) a member of ESA.
He had to make an apology to save face. This how big things work ;) how interesting that you know more about the guy than he tells you, white knight
Shirt guy has my commiserations. Being criticized on the internet is probably pretty nasty; being symbolically martyrized by your "defenders" on the internet is probably worse.
OP, have some respect. |
Jvpiter
Jovelike
948
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Posted - 2014.11.18 14:34:25 -
[66] - Quote
Kaarous Aldurald wrote:When I saw this, I thought it was absurd.
I have way, way worse shirts than that.
Did you wear them at your job, while being interviewed on international TV for a historic moment for science and the human race?
Totally absurd we would want to have a dress code for that.
Call me Joe.
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Nami Kumamato
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
323
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Posted - 2014.11.18 14:34:54 -
[67] - Quote
Benny Ohu wrote:Nami Kumamato wrote:Dude, if a CCP member would be in this situation you would see an apology the next second.
It's how corps work in the real world.
You get that memo with "Make a public apology. Nao! This could reflect bad on the company!" at which point you automatically comply. gosh i had no idea your perfect knowledge could immediately discount any other reasons behind making a personal inpromptu apology, white knight
You gotta be at least naive that he saw the comments and went OMG OMG i need to make a public apology nao!
I don't discount his own sense but 90% sure one of those higher old cooks there in ESA just approached slowly and whispered softly "You make apology immediately, yes?"
And if he did it so impromptu then all the more respect to the guy - but seriously what else could you do in his situation?
Stay silent and then have an uproar?
You don't think these things through much do you?
[i]"And now my ship is oh so cloaked and fit
It never felt so good, I never felt so hid"[/i]
- Ramona McCandless, Untitled
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Nami Kumamato
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
324
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Posted - 2014.11.18 14:37:12 -
[68] - Quote
Jvpiter wrote:Kaarous Aldurald wrote:When I saw this, I thought it was absurd.
I have way, way worse shirts than that. Did you wear them at your job, while being interviewed on international TV for a historic moment for science and the human race? Totally absurd we would want to have a dress code for that.
I heard of a guy who revolutionized physics after dashing out of the bathtub and running butt-naked on the streets screaming things like "Evrika".
[i]"And now my ship is oh so cloaked and fit
It never felt so good, I never felt so hid"[/i]
- Ramona McCandless, Untitled
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Benny Ohu
Chaotic Tranquility
Warp to Cyno.
4170
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Posted - 2014.11.18 14:37:30 -
[69] - Quote
Nami Kumamato wrote:You gotta be at least naive that he saw the comments and went OMG OMG i need to make a public apology nao!
I don't discount his own sense but 90% sure one of those higher old cooks there in ESA just approached slowly and whispered softly "You make apology immediately, yes?"
And if he did it so impromptu then all the more respect to the guy - but seriously what else could you do in his situation?
Stay silent and then have an uproar?
You don't think these things through much do you?
of course it could not possibly have been a sincere attempt to acknowledge a mistake made, and you're oh so brave and noble to ride out to defend the man, white knight |
Benny Ohu
Chaotic Tranquility
Warp to Cyno.
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Posted - 2014.11.18 14:38:46 -
[70] - Quote
Nami Kumamato wrote:I heard of a guy who revolutionized physics after dashing out of the bathtub and running butt-naked on the streets screaming things like "Evrika".
#sexyscience |
Nami Kumamato
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
324
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Posted - 2014.11.18 14:39:00 -
[71] - Quote
Benny Ohu wrote:Nami Kumamato wrote:You gotta be at least naive that he saw the comments and went OMG OMG i need to make a public apology nao!
I don't discount his own sense but 90% sure one of those higher old cooks there in ESA just approached slowly and whispered softly "You make apology immediately, yes?"
And if he did it so impromptu then all the more respect to the guy - but seriously what else could you do in his situation?
Stay silent and then have an uproar?
You don't think these things through much do you? of course it could not possibly have been a sincere attempt to acknowledge a mistake made, and you're oh so brave and noble to ride out to defend the man, white knight
I am. Problem?
[i]"And now my ship is oh so cloaked and fit
It never felt so good, I never felt so hid"[/i]
- Ramona McCandless, Untitled
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Nami Kumamato
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
324
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Posted - 2014.11.18 14:40:44 -
[72] - Quote
Benny Ohu wrote:Nami Kumamato wrote:I heard of a guy who revolutionized physics after dashing out of the bathtub and running butt-naked on the streets screaming things like "Evrika". #sexyscience
Yeap!
Leave science to the scientists and fashion to the fashion-designers.
(Although I'm still trying to find out who the hell is the guy/gal who comes every year and tells me this summer we wear green...I need a chat with him. I need to understand)
[i]"And now my ship is oh so cloaked and fit
It never felt so good, I never felt so hid"[/i]
- Ramona McCandless, Untitled
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Kazekage Dono
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
29
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Posted - 2014.11.18 14:40:45 -
[73] - Quote
Nami Kumamato wrote:Kazekage Dono wrote:Don't you people know science is sick? Sick with political correctness syndrome.
I mean obviously when someone is born they automatically get 'the right' never to be offended ... Or wait unlike this scientist guy who ... offended? Wait whut?!?
Oh right only those who have the masses on their side.
Feminism, the exploitation of the female who previously where hard to impossible to be exploited. Now they have money aka more ownership and females are overal easy to manipulate into buying things.
Considering happiness in women is at an all time low. Ya got duped and talked into patching up the fractional bank reserve system. One of the many patches. Cause you know oil never runs out right?
After all this banther clearly i must be a chauvinist. Clearly ... Cause you know stuff.
You're all easy to control emotional fools. Now go watch some sports, greys anatomy and for the europeans some sturm der liebe. :) In the beginning men worked and women stayed at home, cleaned cooked and took care of the kids. Nowadays women work and some men stay at home, clean, cook and take care of the kids. The only difference is you bastards now have kitchen appliances, washing machines, vacuum cleaners, smart-ovens and stuff. It was all planned! Damn you all! Damn you all to hell! You tricked us! (this is a joke)
Guess what, I'm one of those guys who stay at home while my wife goes to work. Something something taking care of the kids not prestigious enough.
Sure whatever i'll take it. Have fun getting up at 6 in the morning ladies! How's your prestigious job going for you now you 'get to' work? |
Kaarous Aldurald
Lords.Of.Midnight
The Devil's Warrior Alliance
10650
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Posted - 2014.11.18 14:41:20 -
[74] - Quote
Jvpiter wrote:Kaarous Aldurald wrote:When I saw this, I thought it was absurd.
I have way, way worse shirts than that. Did you wear them at your job, while being interviewed on international TV for a historic moment for science and the human race? Totally absurd we would want to have a dress code for that.
You know what's absurd to me?
That people would cast aside this man's titanic scientific achievement and focus on his t-shirt. People these days have their priorities in life all wrong.
"Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."
One of ours, ten of theirs.
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Benny Ohu
Chaotic Tranquility
Warp to Cyno.
4170
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Posted - 2014.11.18 14:42:16 -
[75] - Quote
Nami Kumamato wrote:Benny Ohu wrote:Nami Kumamato wrote:You gotta be at least naive that he saw the comments and went OMG OMG i need to make a public apology nao!
I don't discount his own sense but 90% sure one of those higher old cooks there in ESA just approached slowly and whispered softly "You make apology immediately, yes?"
And if he did it so impromptu then all the more respect to the guy - but seriously what else could you do in his situation?
Stay silent and then have an uproar?
You don't think these things through much do you? of course it could not possibly have been a sincere attempt to acknowledge a mistake made, and you're oh so brave and noble to ride out to defend the man, white knight I am. Problem?
now let me explain to you why in logical thinking (and basic decency) we accept the things people say on the words' own merits rather than assumed or accused motivation of the speaker |
Nami Kumamato
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
324
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Posted - 2014.11.18 14:42:58 -
[76] - Quote
Kaarous Aldurald wrote:
You know what's absurd to me?
That people would cast aside this man's titanic scientific achievement and focus on his t-shirt. People these days have their priorities in life all wrong.
Literally this.
[i]"And now my ship is oh so cloaked and fit
It never felt so good, I never felt so hid"[/i]
- Ramona McCandless, Untitled
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Benny Ohu
Chaotic Tranquility
Warp to Cyno.
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Posted - 2014.11.18 14:44:38 -
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Kaarous Aldurald wrote:Jvpiter wrote:Kaarous Aldurald wrote:When I saw this, I thought it was absurd.
I have way, way worse shirts than that. Did you wear them at your job, while being interviewed on international TV for a historic moment for science and the human race? Totally absurd we would want to have a dress code for that. You know what's absurd to me? That people would cast aside this man's titanic scientific achievement and focus on his t-shirt. People these days have their priorities in life all wrong.
again, we look at things in different frames and through logical thinking are fully capable of praising postive things that happened on the day while criticising others
when viewed through the frame of feminism, there was cause for criticism in the presentation of the event. the thing's become way overblown though |
Jvpiter
Jovelike
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Posted - 2014.11.18 14:45:21 -
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Nami Kumamato wrote:
I heard of a guy who revolutionized physics after dashing out of the bathtub and running butt-naked on the streets screaming things like "Evrika".
Hey now. I can see you making fun of my name!
This ESA guy didn't make the comet landing happen all on his own. Calling him Archimedes or Einstein is a bit of a stretch.
Call me Joe.
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Nami Kumamato
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
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Posted - 2014.11.18 14:46:08 -
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Benny Ohu wrote:Nami Kumamato wrote:Benny Ohu wrote:Nami Kumamato wrote:You gotta be at least naive that he saw the comments and went OMG OMG i need to make a public apology nao!
I don't discount his own sense but 90% sure one of those higher old cooks there in ESA just approached slowly and whispered softly "You make apology immediately, yes?"
And if he did it so impromptu then all the more respect to the guy - but seriously what else could you do in his situation?
Stay silent and then have an uproar?
You don't think these things through much do you? of course it could not possibly have been a sincere attempt to acknowledge a mistake made, and you're oh so brave and noble to ride out to defend the man, white knight I am. Problem? now let me explain to you why in logical thinking (and basic decency) we accept the things people say on the words' own merits rather than assumed or accused motivation of the speaker
Using your logical thinking you cannot exclude the possibility that keeping in mind his role, where he works at, the day and the occasion, there is a 100% certainty that he was not pressured to do so against his wishes?
(Did you ever stop to think that maybe he wore that shirt because his lady/friend gave it to him and was of special sentimental value or it was his lucky shirt maybe? And now he has to apologize for it?)
[i]"And now my ship is oh so cloaked and fit
It never felt so good, I never felt so hid"[/i]
- Ramona McCandless, Untitled
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Nami Kumamato
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
324
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Posted - 2014.11.18 14:47:19 -
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Jvpiter wrote:Nami Kumamato wrote:
I heard of a guy who revolutionized physics after dashing out of the bathtub and running butt-naked on the streets screaming things like "Evrika".
Hey now. I can see you making fun of my name! This ESA guy didn't make the comet landing happen all on his own. Calling him Archimedes or Einstein is a bit of a stretch.
It was about the clothing situation.
If the scientists spent more time worrying about their clothes they wouldn't do much science in the first part.
[i]"And now my ship is oh so cloaked and fit
It never felt so good, I never felt so hid"[/i]
- Ramona McCandless, Untitled
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Benny Ohu
Chaotic Tranquility
Warp to Cyno.
4170
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Posted - 2014.11.18 14:48:54 -
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Nami Kumamato wrote:Using your logical thinking you cannot exclude the possibility that keeping in mind his role, where he works at, the day and the occasion, there is a 100% certainty that he was not pressured to do so against his wishes?
(Did you ever stop to think that maybe he wore that shirt because his lady/friend gave it to him and was of special sentimental value or it was his lucky shirt maybe? And now he has to apologize for it?)
we accept his words as they are meant without insulting the intent (and the speaker) by questioning it
i have already explained the concept of looking through the issue with different lenses |
Kaarous Aldurald
Lords.Of.Midnight
The Devil's Warrior Alliance
10651
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Posted - 2014.11.18 14:50:03 -
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Benny Ohu wrote:
again, we look at things in different frames and through logical thinking are fully capable of praising postive things that happened on the day while criticising others
And if someone's "frame" causes them to ignore what happened that day because of his choice of wardrobe, then they have no value in my eyes.
Seriously, it's ****ing pathetic. The man landed a rocket on a freaking comet, an object moving at ridiculous speed through outer freaking space. He could be wearing a clown wig for all I care. This daytime TV, materialistic, shallow bullshit has gone too far in our society.
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when viewed through the frame of feminism, there was cause for criticism in the presentation of the event. the thing's become way overblown though
I don't care what feminazis think. Especially because their argument in this instance is so very, very off base. They're demonstrating precisely why there are so few women in STEM fields. Because #yesallwomen are hilariously, vehemently hostile to people in the STEM fields.
"Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."
One of ours, ten of theirs.
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Helene Fidard
11
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Posted - 2014.11.18 14:52:03 -
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Nami Kumamato wrote:Using your logical thinking you cannot exclude the possibility that keeping in mind his role, where he works at, the day and the occasion, there is a 100% certainty that he was not pressured to do so against his wishes?
Fellow science nerds of the internet, a science man has been ~unfairly criticized~! But however can we protect him from the unruly feminist hordes?!
We will accuse him of mendaciousness! For justice, AND SCIENCE!!! |
Nami Kumamato
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
324
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Posted - 2014.11.18 14:54:13 -
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Helene Fidard wrote:Nami Kumamato wrote:Using your logical thinking you cannot exclude the possibility that keeping in mind his role, where he works at, the day and the occasion, there is a 100% certainty that he was not pressured to do so against his wishes? Fellow science nerds of the internet, a science man has been ~unfairly criticized~! But however can we protect him from the unruly feminist hordes?! We will accuse him of mendaciousness! For justice, AND SCIENCE!!!
You people and your big words :D
[i]"And now my ship is oh so cloaked and fit
It never felt so good, I never felt so hid"[/i]
- Ramona McCandless, Untitled
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Benny Ohu
Chaotic Tranquility
Warp to Cyno.
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Posted - 2014.11.18 14:57:06 -
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Kaarous Aldurald wrote:Benny Ohu wrote:
again, we look at things in different frames and through logical thinking are fully capable of praising postive things that happened on the day while criticising others
And if someone's "frame" causes them to ignore what happened that day because of his choice of wardrobe, then they have no value in my eyes.
no. talking about an issue from a perspective does not mean you are ignoring other aspects.
for example. let's suppose a cinematographer was commenting on the camerawork in star wars. talking about other parts of the film, such as the script or acting quality, is outside the scope of what's being discussed. in fact, depending on the context of the discussion, such commentary would be viewed as extraneous to the topic. it does not mean the entire film is being ignored. if a particular shot or scene is criticised, it does not mean the film is being criticised as a whole.
Kaarous Aldurald wrote:Quote:
when viewed through the frame of feminism, there was cause for criticism in the presentation of the event. the thing's become way overblown though
I don't care what feminazis think. Especially because their argument in this instance is so very, very off base. They're demonstrating precisely why there are so few women in STEM fields. Because #yesallwomen are hilariously, vehemently hostile to people in the STEM fields.
i haven't seen this hostility. |
Kaarous Aldurald
Lords.Of.Midnight
The Devil's Warrior Alliance
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Posted - 2014.11.18 15:06:02 -
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Benny Ohu wrote:
no. talking about an issue from a perspective does not mean you are ignoring other aspects.
In general, you are correct.
Not in this instance, however. In this instance his achievements have been disregarded because he *gasp* has attractive women on his shirt (that was made for him by a woman, let's not forget).
In this instance one of the crowning space travel achievements of the last decade has been cast aside and forgotten because wimminz.
There is no excuse for that. I wholly deride anyone taking part.
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i haven't seen this hostility.
I sure have. When I was college, I was egged by this hostility. I was stabbed in the ribs while in line at a movie theater by this hostility.
I do not tolerate it in my presence any longer.
"Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."
One of ours, ten of theirs.
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Nami Kumamato
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
325
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Posted - 2014.11.18 15:10:14 -
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Feminism IMO has gotten out of hand and different groups that call themselves feminists go after every thing that they think is anti-woman just to get publicity.
Equality and all - that's crap - yea there's a lot of equality.
Like I get to watch my colleagues sweat in their shirts and jeans or pants in summer while I stroll care free in my short pants or skirt and sleeveless top. And I have no stinky feet cause I get to wear my strapless sandals so you can watch my painted nails all fresh and polished.
And god forbid you'd dare say something cause then HR will cook up a sexual harassment dossier immediately.
Double standards and equality when it suits us.
Pfff...
[i]"And now my ship is oh so cloaked and fit
It never felt so good, I never felt so hid"[/i]
- Ramona McCandless, Untitled
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Agondray
Avenger Mercenaries
VOID Intergalactic Forces
156
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Posted - 2014.11.18 15:10:33 -
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So i looked this guy up to see what the complaint was about.
1 he looks like an awesome guy
2 he landed a a probe on a comet *taking notes on that ccp?*
3 i dont see anyone at work male and female complaining about the guy
4 he probably is married with kids
Lets complain about him not being professionally dressed. I applaud the guy for his work, but like my time in the military, people make looks triumph over everything.
IE much of my leadership in the military is your if your uniform is dirty you are unprofessional despite the fast you lay in a hasty and fight a war.
TL:DR its stupid and let the man do work unless there is actually a crime being committed such as talking down to women he works with or the reporter that didnt have a problem with his clothes
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Alpheias
Euphoria Released
Triumvirate.
7539
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Posted - 2014.11.18 15:12:08 -
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Self-victimization is as real as being hypochondriac.
Allow me to be frank. You will not like me. You will not like me now, and you will not like men++ a good deal less as we go on.
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Benny Ohu
Chaotic Tranquility
Warp to Cyno.
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Posted - 2014.11.18 15:19:00 -
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Kaarous Aldurald wrote:Not in this instance, however. In this instance his achievements have been disregarded because he *gasp* has attractive women on his shirt (that was made for him by a woman, let's not forget).
In this instance one of the crowning space travel achievements of the last decade has been cast aside and forgotten because wimminz.
uh. no, it hasn't. the majority of news coverage is about the damn lander. there's a few circles of internet dorks being angry those gosh-darn feminists are ruining our video games who are also being angry about those gosh-darned feminists ruining our comet
Kaarous Aldurald wrote:I sure have. When I was college, I was egged by this hostility. I was stabbed in the ribs while in line at a movie theater by this hostility.
I do not tolerate it in my presence any longer.
i cannot think of any part of feminist philosophy that condones stabbings |
Nami Kumamato
School of Applied Knowledge
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Posted - 2014.11.18 15:38:25 -
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Benny Ohu wrote:
i cannot think of any part of feminist philosophy that condones stabbings
There ain't nothing about painted women on shirts either. Trust me.
The whole image of the woman in the media is referring to using our image ( if in explicit images even worse) to promote products or to degrade the image of women in the world (things like let's say you'd make a poster with a woman cooking and title it "in your rightful place"). But nowadays women on everything is degrading and taboo because we have no clue about what we are fighting for durrr.
Women on clothes that are not used as a promoting or to degrade the image of the woman are totally ok.
And putting a naked woman on a shirt is degrading depending what woman you ask thus subject to various interpretations.
And his shirt has nothing explicit on it - but it was an occasion to good to miss for them
Did his shirt degrade the image of women in the world? THink not. As a woman i did not feel insulted, I actually thought it was rather cool, as he was apart from the white-lab-coat, electric-hair Einstein type of scientist.
Did he promote anything with it? Nope.
Was it explicit? Nope.
I'm looking forward to the moment when they'll have to use censure to hide things like the famous "flying gals" on WW2 planes and such because feminism.
Feminism has gotten to the point were it's like semitism - you can't say nothing against it because you'll be automatically labeled an enemy of, even if you're right.
[i]"And now my ship is oh so cloaked and fit
It never felt so good, I never felt so hid"[/i]
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Helene Fidard
12
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Posted - 2014.11.18 15:41:36 -
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Nami Kumamato wrote:Feminism has gotten to the point were it's like semitism - you can't say nothing against it because you'll be automatically labeled an enemy of, even if you're right.
Now this thread is going places. |
Nami Kumamato
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
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Posted - 2014.11.18 15:43:21 -
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Helene Fidard wrote:Nami Kumamato wrote:Feminism has gotten to the point were it's like semitism - you can't say nothing against it because you'll be automatically labeled an enemy of, even if you're right. Now this thread is going places.
Like to the Closed bin :)
[i]"And now my ship is oh so cloaked and fit
It never felt so good, I never felt so hid"[/i]
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baltec1
Bat Country
Goonswarm Federation
13949
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Posted - 2014.11.18 15:47:38 -
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Feminism has become the sexism they claim to hate.
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Karl Hobb
Stellar Ore Refinery and Crematorium
2055
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Posted - 2014.11.18 15:52:55 -
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Is this a thread about ethics in videogame journalism?
A professional astro-bastard was not available so they sent me.
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Benny Ohu
Chaotic Tranquility
Warp to Cyno.
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Posted - 2014.11.18 15:53:34 -
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Nami Kumamato wrote:But nowadays women on everything is degrading and taboo because we have no clue about what we are fighting for durrr.
arguing against a made-up opposition is so easy, isn't it?
Nami Kumamato wrote:Women on clothes that are not used as a promoting or to degrade the image of the woman are totally ok.
And putting a naked woman on a shirt is degrading depending what woman you ask thus subject to various interpretations.
And his shirt has nothing explicit on it - but
but it was sexualised. the shirt represents and is part of a trend in society of unduly sexualising women. now, sexualisation in itself isn't a bad thing, and that leads to confusion for some people. humans are, among other things, sexual creatures. the trend of inordinate sexualisation is the big problem. it leads to society and individuals thinking of women as always being sexual. this leads to the expectation that a women is only sexual, that a woman's body is always sexual, that a woman should be always sexual, that a woman is wrong if she's not being sexual.
this isn't right. a woman is sexual when she desires to be sexual. this is why it's not appropriate in a workplace, for one thing. this is why it can rightly make people feel uncomfortable. it's a trend that society needs to move away from to be healthy, and we do that by recognising, describing and criticising examples of the trend. |
Nami Kumamato
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Posted - 2014.11.18 15:57:59 -
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Benny Ohu wrote:Nami Kumamato wrote:But nowadays women on everything is degrading and taboo because we have no clue about what we are fighting for durrr. arguing against a made-up opposition is so easy, isn't it? Nami Kumamato wrote:Women on clothes that are not used as a promoting or to degrade the image of the woman are totally ok.
And putting a naked woman on a shirt is degrading depending what woman you ask thus subject to various interpretations.
And his shirt has nothing explicit on it - but but it was sexualised. the shirt represents and is part of a trend in society of unduly sexualising women. now, sexualisation in itself isn't a bad thing, and that leads to confusion for some people. humans are, among other things, sexual creatures. the trend of inordinate sexualisation is the big problem. it leads to society and individuals thinking of women as always being sexual. this leads to the expectation that a women is only sexual, that a woman's body is always sexual, that a woman should be always sexual, that a woman is wrong if she's not being sexual. this isn't right. a woman is sexual when she desires to be sexual. this is why it's not appropriate in a workplace, for one thing. this is why it can rightly make people feel uncomfortable. it's a trend that society needs to move away from to be healthy, and we do that by recognising, describing and criticising examples of the trend.
then I guess we should ban body building and Arnold shirt right?
Because it leads to the idea that all men are buff, all men are only buff and all men should always be buff?
[i]"And now my ship is oh so cloaked and fit
It never felt so good, I never felt so hid"[/i]
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Nami Kumamato
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
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Posted - 2014.11.18 16:01:13 -
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Benny Ohu wrote:. the shirt represents and is part of a trend in society of unduly sexualising women. now, sexualisation in itself isn't a bad thing, and that leads to confusion for some people.
I'm sorry thought I watched the ESA comet landing thing, didn't look much like the latest fashion show in Paris, for the upcoming Winter-Spring trends.
[i]"And now my ship is oh so cloaked and fit
It never felt so good, I never felt so hid"[/i]
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Deck Cadelanne
Exigent Circumstances
CAStabouts
68
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Posted - 2014.11.18 16:01:14 -
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Jvpiter wrote:
Speaking of out of context quoting, going Commando in a T2 shirt would be hitting two Arnold references in the same outfit.
No. That would be too much Arnold. It could cause some sort of universal implosion, or something.
"When the going gets weird, the weird turn professional."
- Hunter S. Thompson
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Nami Kumamato
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
325
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Posted - 2014.11.18 16:02:07 -
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Deck Cadelanne wrote:Jvpiter wrote:
Speaking of out of context quoting, going Commando in a T2 shirt would be hitting two Arnold references in the same outfit.
No. That would be too much Arnold. It could cause some sort of universal implosion, or something.
You can't have too much Arnold.
[i]"And now my ship is oh so cloaked and fit
It never felt so good, I never felt so hid"[/i]
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baltec1
Bat Country
Goonswarm Federation
13950
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Posted - 2014.11.18 16:09:19 -
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Nami Kumamato wrote:Deck Cadelanne wrote:Jvpiter wrote:
Speaking of out of context quoting, going Commando in a T2 shirt would be hitting two Arnold references in the same outfit.
No. That would be too much Arnold. It could cause some sort of universal implosion, or something. You can't have too much Arnold.
It pains me to say this but...
Join Bat Country today and defend the Glorious Socialist Dictatorship
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Benny Ohu
Chaotic Tranquility
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Posted - 2014.11.18 16:09:37 -
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Nami Kumamato wrote:then I guess we should ban body building and Arnold shirt right?
Because it leads to the idea that all men are buff, all men are only buff and all men should always be buff?
arnold, in his films, is usually portrayed as a powerful man and is not as a sexualised man. also, men are not sexualised nearly as much as women in media. you're hitting upon a larger and equally damaging idea of perfect body image, and certain tropes of depictions of men in films (and videogames) that suggest men must be ~powerful angry no-tears heroes~
i'm glad you're thinking like this
Quote:I'm sorry thought I watched the ESA comet landing thing, didn't look much like the latest fashion show in Paris, for the upcoming Winter-Spring trends.
yet again, the criticism on the man's shirt is through a feminist frame. you must understand that comment on broad societal issues will almost certainly encompass social events such as popular television presentations and news conferences |
Kamahl Daikun
Hounds of War.
Hashashin Cartel
27
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Posted - 2014.11.18 16:12:14 -
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Benny Ohu wrote:Nami Kumamato wrote:But nowadays women on everything is degrading and taboo because we have no clue about what we are fighting for durrr. arguing against a made-up opposition is so easy, isn't it? Nami Kumamato wrote:Women on clothes that are not used as a promoting or to degrade the image of the woman are totally ok.
And putting a naked woman on a shirt is degrading depending what woman you ask thus subject to various interpretations.
And his shirt has nothing explicit on it - but but it was sexualised. the shirt represents and is part of a trend in society of unduly sexualising women. now, sexualisation in itself isn't a bad thing, and that leads to confusion for some people. humans are, among other things, sexual creatures. the trend of inordinate sexualisation is the big problem. it leads to society and individuals thinking of women as always being sexual. this leads to the expectation that a women is only sexual, that a woman's body is always sexual, that a woman should be always sexual, that a woman is wrong if she's not being sexual. this isn't right. a woman is sexual when she desires to be sexual. this is why it's not appropriate in a workplace, for one thing. this is why it can rightly make people feel uncomfortable. it's a trend that society needs to move away from to be healthy, and we do that by recognising, describing and criticising examples of the trend.
So what you're basically saying is, every image of a woman is sexist and oppressive? |
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Caldari State
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Posted - 2014.11.18 16:16:03 -
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baltec1 wrote:Nami Kumamato wrote:Deck Cadelanne wrote:Jvpiter wrote:
Speaking of out of context quoting, going Commando in a T2 shirt would be hitting two Arnold references in the same outfit.
No. That would be too much Arnold. It could cause some sort of universal implosion, or something. You can't have too much Arnold. It pains me to say this but...
Touche !
[i]"And now my ship is oh so cloaked and fit
It never felt so good, I never felt so hid"[/i]
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Benny Ohu
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Posted - 2014.11.18 16:17:00 -
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Kamahl Daikun wrote:So what you're basically saying is, every image of a woman is sexist and oppressive?
DAT STRAWMAN
l2r |
Karl Hobb
Stellar Ore Refinery and Crematorium
2055
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Posted - 2014.11.18 16:18:50 -
[106] - Quote
I mean, bottom line is the shirt wasn't really appropriate for the venue, besides being sexist (this is regardless of its origins). Anyway, I'm also fairly certain the guy learned his lesson and will be quite careful what he wears to the next historic event he's involved in (that's a plus). At the end of the day, on such a historic occasion, it's nice to know that objectifying women will always be associated with that event.
A professional astro-bastard was not available so they sent me.
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Kendra Katana
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
36
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Posted - 2014.11.18 16:19:47 -
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Kamahl Daikun wrote:So what you're basically saying is, every image of a woman is sexist and oppressive?
Did you actually read his post, or that's what you took from it? Because it's nowhere near to what he said.
But females in leather, skimpy underwear like on the Dr Matt Taylor's shirt were extremely oversexualized.
Don't get me wrong, the level of bullshit he has to go through now isn't justified. That shirt represented some existing issue, but he as a person isn't guilty of it. Hence, I don't think we should bash the person but rather the concept.
On the other hand, wearing that shirt for interview was rather silly move on his part. Why would he do that? To gain as much media coverage as the other NASA engineer with the fancy haircut? Because I doubt anyone who actually takes few seconds to think what they are doing would wear that shirt otherwise. |
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Posted - 2014.11.18 16:20:47 -
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Karl Hobb wrote:I mean, bottom line is the shirt wasn't really appropriate for the venue, besides being sexist (this is regardless of its origins). Anyway, I'm also fairly certain the guy learned his lesson and will be quite careful what he wears to the next historic event he's involved in (that's a plus). At the end of the day, on such a historic occasion, it's nice to know that objectifying women will always be associated with that event.
What - you tought you could go to that comet all alone? N' aaaah! In sickness and in health ma boy!
[i]"And now my ship is oh so cloaked and fit
It never felt so good, I never felt so hid"[/i]
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Kaarous Aldurald
Lords.Of.Midnight
The Devil's Warrior Alliance
10652
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Posted - 2014.11.18 16:21:50 -
[109] - Quote
Benny Ohu wrote:also, men are not sexualised nearly as much as women in media.
No, just derided, degraded and emasculated throughout television. One of the first and worst examples was Everybody Loves Raymond, but the trend of the "dumbass husband" runs throughout modern media.
"Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."
One of ours, ten of theirs.
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Kamahl Daikun
Hounds of War.
Hashashin Cartel
27
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Posted - 2014.11.18 16:23:57 -
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Benny Ohu wrote:Kamahl Daikun wrote:So what you're basically saying is, every image of a woman is sexist and oppressive? DAT STRAWMAN l2r
I did read.
Apparently a shirt with women who are not only clothed but not posing in a provocative way is sexist and oppressive.
Which begs me to ask, is there any image of a woman that's not sexist and oppressive? I'm sure my avatar is sexist since her breasts are exposed. Call Anita Sarkeesian so she can raid CCP. |
Benny Ohu
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Posted - 2014.11.18 16:26:50 -
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Kaarous Aldurald wrote:Benny Ohu wrote:also, men are not sexualised nearly as much as women in media.
No, just derided, degraded and emasculated throughout television. One of the first and worst examples was Everybody Loves Raymond, but the trend of the "dumbass husband" runs throughout modern media.
we can criticise poor images of men as well as poor images of women. it's about expressing why the image might be damaging. there's no rule that says you're batting for one gender or the other. it's about finding the best way to live together as human beings, not picking a team.
Kendra Katana wrote:Don't get me wrong, the level of bullshit he has to go through now isn't justified. That shirt represented some existing issue, but he as a person isn't guilty of it. Hence, I don't think we should bash the person but rather the concept.
i haven't seen anything like bullying on the guy. i've seen plenty on some critics of his shirt. not to diminish any harassment he might have recieved. any harassment is not justified. |
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Posted - 2014.11.18 16:27:44 -
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nuh-uh |
Kaarous Aldurald
Lords.Of.Midnight
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Posted - 2014.11.18 16:28:12 -
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Hey, here's a thought.
I find iconoclasty offensive and oppressive.
But apparently it is not okay for me to confront people who engage in this behavior. Only they are allowed to stand up for anything (even if their beliefs are both mutable and imaginary).
And this is somehow totally not a textbook example of a privileged class.
"Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."
One of ours, ten of theirs.
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Kaarous Aldurald
Lords.Of.Midnight
The Devil's Warrior Alliance
10652
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Posted - 2014.11.18 16:30:41 -
[114] - Quote
Benny Ohu wrote:
we can criticise poor images of men as well as poor images of women.
Except that is not what is happening. If anything it's been ramped up in the last decade.
And pointing out their flagrant hypocrisy is important to the discussion. They aren't out for anything resembling equality, and they never were. Feminism is the female supremacist movement. And I treat them with equal derision as I would the white supremacist movement. Except the media isn't in lockstep with the white supremacists.
"Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."
One of ours, ten of theirs.
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Kamahl Daikun
Hounds of War.
Hashashin Cartel
30
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Posted - 2014.11.18 16:30:58 -
[115] - Quote
Let's totally ignore valid arguments because arguing nonsense against something that makes sense is really hard.
Today's feminist movement is a joke. Even to itself. The sheer fact that someone lands a probe on a comet and people talk about his shirt is proof enough of how smart feminists really are. Honestly, feminists can't even validate their own claims.
Also, to be real about this, if a shirt offends you, kill yourself. |
Benny Ohu
Chaotic Tranquility
Warp to Cyno.
4173
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Posted - 2014.11.18 16:39:57 -
[116] - Quote
Kamahl Daikun wrote:Let's totally ignore valid arguments
a reaction to a misrepresentation of what i said is not a valid argument. it's a logical fallacy.
Kaarous Aldurald wrote:Except that is not what is happening. If anything it's been ramped up in the last decade.
And pointing out their flagrant hypocrisy is important to the discussion. They aren't out for anything resembling equality, and they never were. Feminism is the female supremacist movement. And I treat them with equal derision as I would the white supremacist movement. Except the media isn't in lockstep with the white supremacists.
this is false. i suggest you stop listening to redpillers, mensrights and gators. there's a lot of misrepresentation of the feminist movement out there, and a lot of internet crazies taking sides who don't help matters. |
Kendra Katana
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
36
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Posted - 2014.11.18 16:42:25 -
[117] - Quote
Kamahl Daikun wrote:Let's totally ignore valid arguments because arguing nonsense against something that makes sense is really hard. Today's feminist movement is a joke. Even to itself. The sheer fact that someone lands a probe on a comet and people talk about his shirt is proof enough of how smart feminists really are. Honestly, feminists can't even validate their own claims. Also, to be real about this, if a shirt offends you, kill yourself.
What valid points? That half nude females in skimpy leather underwear is not an oversexualized image? It is, hence you don't see women dress like this in public. So stop being too dense to get that.
Also, as for your second point, the fact that some issue doesn't affect you doesn't mean it's not real. Today's feminism, as well as feminism years ago is needed as it addresses valid and issues in society. It's not about "supremacy". It's about equality.
I don't know if that's new to you, but the fact that someone calls themselves a feminist doesn't mean they are one.
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Kaarous Aldurald
Lords.Of.Midnight
The Devil's Warrior Alliance
10652
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Posted - 2014.11.18 16:46:47 -
[118] - Quote
Benny Ohu wrote:
this is false. i suggest you stop listening to redpillers, mensrights and gators. there's a lot of misrepresentation of the feminist movement out there, and a lot of internet crazies taking sides who don't help matters.
Here's another one for you.
ADD. This now, largely fictitious disorder has been diagnosed in millions of children in the last twenty years. Much of these diagnoses now known to be false.
It was treated with harmful, dangerous medications that are basically Speed.
But twenty to one it was diagnosed in male children.
But it turns out? They run around, play and don't pay attention to teachers because they're little boys, not because they have a mental disease. No coincidence however that the vast majority of teachers giving referrals of children for this were female.
So millions, literally millions of little boys were negatively labeled with this disease, and forcibly pacified with harmful drugs, in nothing more than an assault on completely normal male behavior.
If a German speaking country had done such a thing, we'd have a name for it that begins with a capital letter.
"Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."
One of ours, ten of theirs.
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Kamahl Daikun
Hounds of War.
Hashashin Cartel
32
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Posted - 2014.11.18 16:47:27 -
[119] - Quote
Kendra Katana wrote:Kamahl Daikun wrote:Let's totally ignore valid arguments because arguing nonsense against something that makes sense is really hard. Today's feminist movement is a joke. Even to itself. The sheer fact that someone lands a probe on a comet and people talk about his shirt is proof enough of how smart feminists really are. Honestly, feminists can't even validate their own claims. Also, to be real about this, if a shirt offends you, kill yourself. What valid points? That half nude females in skimpy leather underwear is not an oversexualized image? It is, hence you don't see women dress like this in public. So stop being too dense to get that. Also, as for your second point, the fact that some issue doesn't affect you doesn't mean it's not real. Today's feminism, as well as feminism years ago is needed as it addresses valid and issues in modern society. It's not about "supremacy". It's about equality. I don't know if that's new to you, but the fact that someone calls themselves a feminist doesn't mean they are one.
Except women do dress like that in public. You don't seem to be getting the picture.
The problems, or lack thereof, that feminists argue about are largely invalidated because women already do that by choice. Women sexualize themselves, demean themselves, and pretty much do all of the things feminists complain about. Then they invent this god-like patriarchal figure that's somehow brainwashing all of the human beings on Earth that have vaginas.
It's as ridiculous as five percenters.
EDIT: on the topic of feminism being necessary...
No, it isn't. Feminism was invented in a time when women were denied rights that were given to others. They were denied fundamental rights simply because of their sex organ. They were openly oppressed, harassed, denied education, and various other things.
Today, women are on equal footing. There is no real problem. Modern feminism isn't about equality, it's about female dominance. How you can even argue that feminists want equality for all genders with the name "feminist" is borderline offensive to anyone with a GED. |
Mr Epeen
It's All About Me
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Posted - 2014.11.18 16:48:43 -
[120] - Quote
If it wasn't the shirt, it would have been something else.
That's the problem with allowing fundamentalists access to the internet. They fear science and thus attack it at every opportunity.
Mr Epeen 
There are 86,400 seconds in a day. You just saved one of them by typing 'u' instead of 'you'.-á Congratulations, dumbass!
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Nami Kumamato
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
333
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Posted - 2014.11.18 16:49:13 -
[121] - Quote
Kendra Katana wrote:Kamahl Daikun wrote:Let's totally ignore valid arguments because arguing nonsense against something that makes sense is really hard. Today's feminist movement is a joke. Even to itself. The sheer fact that someone lands a probe on a comet and people talk about his shirt is proof enough of how smart feminists really are. Honestly, feminists can't even validate their own claims. Also, to be real about this, if a shirt offends you, kill yourself. What valid points? That half nude females in skimpy leather underwear is not an oversexualized image? It is, hence you don't see women dress like this in public. So stop being too dense to get that. Also, as for your second point, the fact that some issue doesn't affect you doesn't mean it's not real. Today's feminism, as well as feminism years ago is needed as it addresses valid and issues in modern society. It's not about "supremacy". It's about equality. I don't know if that's new to you, but the fact that someone calls themselves a feminist doesn't mean they are one.
On a comic note the primary reason why I wear pants in public is because I would be mighty cold without them and I'd get raped at every street corner if I didn't. Pus the lack of clothes would make "those" days kinda..weird and grose frankly.
[i]"And now my ship is oh so cloaked and fit
It never felt so good, I never felt so hid"[/i]
- Ramona McCandless, Untitled
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Benny Ohu
Chaotic Tranquility
Warp to Cyno.
4173
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Posted - 2014.11.18 16:51:14 -
[122] - Quote
Kaarous Aldurald wrote:Benny Ohu wrote:
this is false. i suggest you stop listening to redpillers, mensrights and gators. there's a lot of misrepresentation of the feminist movement out there, and a lot of internet crazies taking sides who don't help matters.
Here's another one for you.
this has nothing to do with anyhting
Kamahl Daikun wrote:Except women do dress like that in public.
yes. they do. there is not a problem with this. feminism does not criticise women for wearing what they want. |
Kendra Katana
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
36
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Posted - 2014.11.18 16:52:33 -
[123] - Quote
Now you are just making fool of yourself.
Are you seriously trying to prove a point that women do wear PCV underwear in public which is completely normal and accepted behaviour in normal society?
Like, you seem to think "Hey, one in a milion of women did wear that in public, hence it's completely normal!". You do realize that deviation from norm doesn't make that deviation normal, right? Hence it's deviation. |
Benny Ohu
Chaotic Tranquility
Warp to Cyno.
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Posted - 2014.11.18 16:52:54 -
[124] - Quote
Benny Ohu wrote:Kamahl Daikun wrote:Except women do dress like that in public. yes. they do. there is not a problem with this. feminism does not criticise women for wearing what they want.
protip for those tapping out the obvious response: this is a trap. inb4 |
Jvpiter
Jovelike
949
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Posted - 2014.11.18 16:54:10 -
[125] - Quote
Nami, I think I was going about this thread all wrong.
Because of this thread we can take a break from that clone thread. Yeah, that one. You rock!
Call me Joe.
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Kamahl Daikun
Hounds of War.
Hashashin Cartel
32
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Posted - 2014.11.18 16:54:54 -
[126] - Quote
Benny Ohu wrote:Kaarous Aldurald wrote:Benny Ohu wrote:
this is false. i suggest you stop listening to redpillers, mensrights and gators. there's a lot of misrepresentation of the feminist movement out there, and a lot of internet crazies taking sides who don't help matters.
Here's another one for you. this has nothing to do with anyhting Kamahl Daikun wrote:Except women do dress like that in public. yes. they do. there is not a problem with this. feminism does not criticise women for wearing what they want.
Feminism doesn't criticize women for wearing what they want unless it's on a shirt worn by a man.
Brilliant. |
Kaarous Aldurald
Lords.Of.Midnight
The Devil's Warrior Alliance
10652
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Posted - 2014.11.18 16:55:20 -
[127] - Quote
Benny Ohu wrote:
this has nothing to do with anyhting
Yeah, actually, it does. It has to do with an assault against a segment of the population, based in hate and prejudice, hidden under the guise of "equality" and imaginary historical oppression.
I was almost a victim of this chemical pacification myself, but for my sainted parents who pulled me from school. But hey, to my (female, of course) teacher, drumming your hands on your knees to the tune of Sesame Street meant that I should be written up and drugged up like some kind of farm animal.
So don't me that this isn't real.
"Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."
One of ours, ten of theirs.
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Nami Kumamato
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
335
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Posted - 2014.11.18 16:56:30 -
[128] - Quote
Jvpiter wrote:
Nami, I think I was going about this thread all wrong.
Because of this thread we can take a break from that clone thread. Yeah, that one. You rock!
Bask in my glory mortal!
(Also if you plan to deify me, please use summary clothing and/or skampy lingerie in your depictions because like the ancients my followers should know that a woman's body is worth admiring and is an echelon of beauty, you hairless apes!)
[i]"And now my ship is oh so cloaked and fit
It never felt so good, I never felt so hid"[/i]
- Ramona McCandless, Untitled
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Benny Ohu
Chaotic Tranquility
Warp to Cyno.
4173
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Posted - 2014.11.18 16:57:46 -
[129] - Quote
Benny Ohu wrote:Benny Ohu wrote:Kamahl Daikun wrote:Except women do dress like that in public. yes. they do. there is not a problem with this. feminism does not criticise women for wearing what they want. protip for those tapping out the obvious response: this is a trap. inb4
Kamahl Daikun wrote:Feminism doesn't criticize women for wearing what they want unless it's on a shirt worn by a man.
Brilliant.
caught like a rabbit in an incredibly obvious, uh, trap
with a carrot. in a trap.
Kaarous Aldurald wrote:Yeah, actually, it does. It has to do with an assault against a segment of the population, based in hate and prejudice, hidden under the guise of "equality" and imaginary historical oppression.
So don't me that this isn't real.
and for some reason you're drawing an equivalence with the feminist movement? there is no connection. |
Jvpiter
Jovelike
952
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Posted - 2014.11.18 16:59:55 -
[130] - Quote
Kaarous Aldurald wrote:I was almost a victim of this chemical pacification myself, but for my sainted parents who pulled me from school. But hey, to my (female, of course) teacher, drumming your hands on your knees to the tune of Sesame Street meant that I should be written up and drugged up like some kind of farm animal.
Hey, this doesn't make it seem like you have an axe to grind or anything.
I'm sure you're arguing out of your passion for objectivity.
Call me Joe. I am a humble worshipper-servant of Nami Kumamato.
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Benny Ohu
Chaotic Tranquility
Warp to Cyno.
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Posted - 2014.11.18 17:00:14 -
[131] - Quote
Kamahl Daikun wrote:Benny Ohu wrote:yes. they do. there is not a problem with this. feminism does not criticise women for wearing what they want. Feminism doesn't criticize women for wearing what they want unless it's on a shirt worn by a man. Brilliant.
if you'd read my posts, of course, you know the difference between a woman choosing to sexualise herself for her own self and a damn shirt with sexualised women on it in the workplace
but ofc you can't read |
Nami Kumamato
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
335
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Posted - 2014.11.18 17:01:38 -
[132] - Quote
Benny Ohu wrote:Kamahl Daikun wrote:Benny Ohu wrote:yes. they do. there is not a problem with this. feminism does not criticise women for wearing what they want. Feminism doesn't criticize women for wearing what they want unless it's on a shirt worn by a man. Brilliant. if you'd read my posts, of course, you know the difference between a woman choosing to sexualise herself for her own self and a damn shirt with sexualised women on it in the workplace but ofc you can't read
Totally true - fictional women have no right to sexualise themselves therefore they degrade the image of all women on Earth.
[i]"And now my ship is oh so cloaked and fit
It never felt so good, I never felt so hid"[/i]
- Ramona McCandless, Untitled
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Jvpiter
Jovelike
952
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Posted - 2014.11.18 17:02:50 -
[133] - Quote
Kamahl Daikun wrote:Feminism doesn't criticize women for wearing what they want unless it's on a shirt worn by a man.
Brilliant.
Today I learned feminism argues rabidly for women to show up in skimpy underwear in a professional workplace.
Is that what you really think? Tell us.
Call me Joe. I am a humble worshipper-servant of Nami Kumamato.
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Benny Ohu
Chaotic Tranquility
Warp to Cyno.
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Posted - 2014.11.18 17:04:43 -
[134] - Quote
Nami Kumamato wrote:Totally true - fictional women have no right to sexualise themselves therefore they degrade the image of all women on Earth.
fictional characters have never had rights. this is an absurd suggestion, and again, a misrepresentation of what i actually said |
Nami Kumamato
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
335
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Posted - 2014.11.18 17:05:30 -
[135] - Quote
Benny Ohu wrote:Nami Kumamato wrote:Totally true - fictional women have no right to sexualise themselves therefore they degrade the image of all women on Earth. fictional characters have never had rights. this is an absurd suggestion, and again, a misrepresentation of what i actually said
it's a friggin painted shirt dude! with painted women, that do not exist in real life. hand made.
[i]"And now my ship is oh so cloaked and fit
It never felt so good, I never felt so hid"[/i]
- Ramona McCandless, Untitled
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Kaarous Aldurald
Lords.Of.Midnight
The Devil's Warrior Alliance
10652
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Posted - 2014.11.18 17:05:36 -
[136] - Quote
Jvpiter wrote:
Today I learned feminism argues rabidly for women to show up in skimpy underwear in a professional workplace.
Is that what you really think? Tell us.
http://nclinksandthinks.files.wordpress.com/2014/08/art-made-by1.jpg?w=461
Not safe for work.
"Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."
One of ours, ten of theirs.
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Benny Ohu
Chaotic Tranquility
Warp to Cyno.
4173
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Posted - 2014.11.18 17:09:00 -
[137] - Quote
Nami Kumamato wrote:Benny Ohu wrote:Nami Kumamato wrote:Totally true - fictional women have no right to sexualise themselves therefore they degrade the image of all women on Earth. fictional characters have never had rights. this is an absurd suggestion, and again, a misrepresentation of what i actually said it's a friggin painted shirt dude! with painted women, that do not exist in real life. hand made.
facts need to be connected to a statement or they are meaningless. if you cannot find the words to express yourself, how can i be expected to understand what you are attempting to say |
Jvpiter
Jovelike
952
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Posted - 2014.11.18 17:09:55 -
[138] - Quote
Ah geez. Now if a male feminist at work saw me squinting at that picture I would have to apologize to him and Twitter will be all abuzz with death threats against the Greek god in the statue.
Save me.
Call me Joe. I am a humble worshipper-servant of Nami Kumamato.
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Nami Kumamato
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
340
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Posted - 2014.11.18 17:10:01 -
[139] - Quote
As a representative of the art community it pains me to say that there is a grain of truth in this.
But then again I don't consider all this Neo crap as art (I mean seriously you could barf on a canvas and tell it's your "inner state of angst at the moment of realization of the human condition" and people will say you're better than the Masters, for some strange reason which escapes me)
[i]"And now my ship is oh so cloaked and fit
It never felt so good, I never felt so hid"[/i]
- Ramona McCandless, Untitled
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Kamahl Daikun
Hounds of War.
Hashashin Cartel
33
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Posted - 2014.11.18 17:10:20 -
[140] - Quote
Benny Ohu wrote:Nami Kumamato wrote:Totally true - fictional women have no right to sexualise themselves therefore they degrade the image of all women on Earth. fictional characters have never had rights. this is an absurd suggestion, and again, a misrepresentation of what i actually said
Except it's not.
Your problem seems to be that scantily clad fictional characters are displayed on a shirt. Then you say you have no problem with women sexualizing themselves but it's a problem when someone else does.
So, what's your beef? Do you just not like human attraction? |
Benny Ohu
Chaotic Tranquility
Warp to Cyno.
4173
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Posted - 2014.11.18 17:15:07 -
[141] - Quote
Kamahl Daikun wrote:Except it's not.
Your problem seems to be that scantily clad fictional characters are displayed on a shirt. Then you say you have no problem with women sexualizing themselves but it's a problem when someone else does.
So, what's your beef? Do you just not like human attraction?
this has been covered. perhaps you should read the posts instead of having a horse explain them to you
Jvpiter wrote:Ah geez. Now if a male feminist at work saw me squinting at that picture I would have to apologize to him and Twitter will be all abuzz with death threats against the Greek god in the statue.
seems to come from an angry blog raging against nontraditional art
http://therightstuff.biz/2014/08/11/the-bloody-dildos-of-contemporary-art/ |
Kaarous Aldurald
Lords.Of.Midnight
The Devil's Warrior Alliance
10654
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Posted - 2014.11.18 17:15:50 -
[142] - Quote
Nami Kumamato wrote:As a representative of the art community it pains me to say that there is a grain of truth in this. But then again I don't consider all this Neo crap as art (I mean seriously you could barf on a canvas and tell it's your "inner state of angst at the moment of realization of the human condition" and people will say you're better than the Masters, for some strange reason which escapes me)
When people embrace subjective morality and society becomes obsessed with the glorification of the Self, then selfishness is all that it will produce.
"Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."
One of ours, ten of theirs.
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Jvpiter
Jovelike
952
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Posted - 2014.11.18 17:16:02 -
[143] - Quote
Kamahl Daikun wrote:
Except it's not.
Your problem seems to be that scantily clad fictional characters are displayed on a shirt. Then you say you have no problem with women sexualizing themselves but it's a problem when someone else does.
So, what's your beef? Do you just not like human attraction?
What do you think NSFW means?
That shirt was NSFW. Just because the fellow is a scientist doesn't mean we don't get to say that was an NSFW shirt.
I have serious doubts you would show up to a work interview and argue you have a right to wear that shirt if they told you, "no way you can wear that shirt here."
You are arguing something you'd never argue outside of the Internet.
Call me Joe. I am a humble worshipper-servant of Nami Kumamato.
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Kamahl Daikun
Hounds of War.
Hashashin Cartel
34
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Posted - 2014.11.18 17:17:48 -
[144] - Quote
Jvpiter wrote:Kamahl Daikun wrote:
Except it's not.
Your problem seems to be that scantily clad fictional characters are displayed on a shirt. Then you say you have no problem with women sexualizing themselves but it's a problem when someone else does.
So, what's your beef? Do you just not like human attraction?
What do you think NSFW means? That shirt was NSFW. Just because the fellow is a scientist doesn't mean we don't get to say that was an NSFW shirt. I have serious doubts you would show up to a work interview and argue you have a right to wear that shirt if they told you, "no way you can wear that shirt here." You are arguing something you'd never argue outside of the Internet.
The funny thing is, no one the guy works with has any problem with the shirt.
It's everyone else who has a problem with the shirt. People who had no involvement with the project at all.
I wasn't aware NSFW also meant "Not Safe For Eye Contact Ever". |
Nami Kumamato
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
341
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Posted - 2014.11.18 17:17:53 -
[145] - Quote
Benny Ohu wrote:Kamahl Daikun wrote:Except it's not.
Your problem seems to be that scantily clad fictional characters are displayed on a shirt. Then you say you have no problem with women sexualizing themselves but it's a problem when someone else does.
So, what's your beef? Do you just not like human attraction? this has been covered. perhaps you should read the posts instead of having a horse explain them to you Jvpiter wrote:Ah geez. Now if a male feminist at work saw me squinting at that picture I would have to apologize to him and Twitter will be all abuzz with death threats against the Greek god in the statue. seems to come from an angry blog raging against nontraditional art http://therightstuff.biz/2014/08/11/the-bloody-dildos-of-contemporary-art/
Why dost thou torment me such ? Non-art aaaaaaaa, it burnsssss, it burnsssss!
[i]"And now my ship is oh so cloaked and fit
It never felt so good, I never felt so hid"[/i]
- Ramona McCandless, Untitled
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Benny Ohu
Chaotic Tranquility
Warp to Cyno.
4173
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Posted - 2014.11.18 17:18:05 -
[146] - Quote
Kaarous Aldurald wrote:When people embrace subjective morality and society becomes obsessed with the glorification of the Self, then selfishness is all that it will produce.
yes i am great
why do you ask |
Jvpiter
Jovelike
952
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Posted - 2014.11.18 17:19:33 -
[147] - Quote
Kamahl Daikun wrote:
The funny thing is, no one the guy works with has any problem with the shirt.
It's everyone else who has a problem with the shirt. People who had no involvement with the project at all.
I wasn't aware NSFW also meant "Not Safe For Eye Contact Ever".
The funny thing is, he's on international TV and apparently the rules are different on it.
Go figure.
Call me Joe. I am a humble worshipper-servant of Nami Kumamato.
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Kamahl Daikun
Hounds of War.
Hashashin Cartel
34
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Posted - 2014.11.18 17:21:18 -
[148] - Quote
Jvpiter wrote:Kamahl Daikun wrote:
The funny thing is, no one the guy works with has any problem with the shirt.
It's everyone else who has a problem with the shirt. People who had no involvement with the project at all.
I wasn't aware NSFW also meant "Not Safe For Eye Contact Ever".
The funny thing is, he's on international TV and apparently the rules are different on it. Go figure.
The funny thing is, there is no empirical dress code for international TV and apparently I can watch **** from Mexico on Comcast.
Go figure.
This problem was blown out of proportion for no reason. It's a damn shirt, grow up. |
Kaarous Aldurald
Lords.Of.Midnight
The Devil's Warrior Alliance
10654
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Posted - 2014.11.18 17:21:49 -
[149] - Quote
Jvpiter wrote:
I have serious doubts you would show up to a work interview and argue you have a right to wear that shirt if they told you, "no way you can wear that shirt here."
I have serious doubts that they get to be picky about rocket scientists.
"Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."
One of ours, ten of theirs.
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Nami Kumamato
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
341
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Posted - 2014.11.18 17:23:27 -
[150] - Quote
Kaarous Aldurald wrote:Jvpiter wrote:
I have serious doubts you would show up to a work interview and argue you have a right to wear that shirt if they told you, "no way you can wear that shirt here."
I have serious doubts that they get to be picky about rocket scientists.
I laughed so suddently I farted.
(and yes it does smell like rainbow-clouds-in-springtime)
[i]"And now my ship is oh so cloaked and fit
It never felt so good, I never felt so hid"[/i]
- Ramona McCandless, Untitled
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Jvpiter
Jovelike
952
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Posted - 2014.11.18 17:34:04 -
[151] - Quote
Did we get Ezwaled?
Serious question, guys.
E: I'm out of here. If anyone asks, I don't know you guys.
Call me Joe. I am a humble worshipper-servant of Nami Kumamato.
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Kaarous Aldurald
Lords.Of.Midnight
The Devil's Warrior Alliance
10655
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Posted - 2014.11.18 17:35:13 -
[152] - Quote
Jvpiter wrote:
Yeah I always equate professional value with "will they let me get away with wearing half naked women on my shirt when we land this rocket on a comet on international TV day".
Congratulations. We know have the ideal world of the feminist, where taste in clothes can be a literal crime.
Jvpiter wrote:
Did we get Ezwaled?
Serious question, guys.
Oh, almost certainly. Whichever it is, they should lock it before beginning mass deletions.
"Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."
One of ours, ten of theirs.
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Benny Ohu
Chaotic Tranquility
Warp to Cyno.
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Posted - 2014.11.18 17:35:45 -
[153] - Quote
Jvpiter wrote:
Did we get Ezwaled?
Serious question, guys.
yes. i don't like how posts that quote removed posts also get removed, a lot of things that are relevant disappear |
Jvpiter
Jovelike
952
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Posted - 2014.11.18 17:36:31 -
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Kaarous Aldurald wrote:Jvpiter wrote:
Yeah I always equate professional value with "will they let me get away with wearing half naked women on my shirt when we land this rocket on a comet on international TV day".
Congratulations. We know have the ideal world of the feminist, where taste in clothes can be a literal crime.
The words "inappropriate" and "criminal" are two different words.
Your slippery slope is imaginary.
Call me Joe. I am a humble worshipper-servant of Nami Kumamato.
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Benny Ohu
Chaotic Tranquility
Warp to Cyno.
4173
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Posted - 2014.11.18 17:36:43 -
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Kaarous Aldurald wrote:Jvpiter wrote:
Yeah I always equate professional value with "will they let me get away with wearing half naked women on my shirt when we land this rocket on a comet on international TV day".
Congratulations. We know have the ideal world of the feminist, where taste in clothes can be a literal crime.
that's not what he said |
Jvpiter
Jovelike
952
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Posted - 2014.11.18 17:38:00 -
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So how about the physical based rendering in Rhea?
It's pretty amazing!
Call me Joe. I am a humble worshipper-servant of Nami Kumamato.
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Kaarous Aldurald
Lords.Of.Midnight
The Devil's Warrior Alliance
10656
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Posted - 2014.11.18 17:40:09 -
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Jvpiter wrote:
So how about the physical based rendering in Rhea?
It's pretty amazing!
Eh, needs some work. The Gallente ships in particular.
"Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."
One of ours, ten of theirs.
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Josef Djugashvilis
2682
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Posted - 2014.11.18 17:41:03 -
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Jvpiter wrote:Kaarous Aldurald wrote:Jvpiter wrote:
Yeah I always equate professional value with "will they let me get away with wearing half naked women on my shirt when we land this rocket on a comet on international TV day".
Congratulations. We know have the ideal world of the feminist, where taste in clothes can be a literal crime. The words "inappropriate" and "criminal" are two different words. Your slippery slope is imaginary.
Not to Kaarous, it isn't...
This is not a signature.
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Benny Ohu
Chaotic Tranquility
Warp to Cyno.
4173
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Posted - 2014.11.18 17:43:13 -
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Josef Djugashvilis wrote:Not to Kaarous, it isn't...
go climb a tree |
Nami Kumamato
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
341
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Posted - 2014.11.18 18:43:48 -
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So in the end the general consensus is that he's a douche?
[i]"And now my ship is oh so cloaked and fit
It never felt so good, I never felt so hid"[/i]
- Ramona McCandless, Untitled
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Abrazzar
Vardaugas Family
5206
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Posted - 2014.11.18 19:04:43 -
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Disregard science, acquire outrage.
Sovereignty and Population
New Mining Mechanics
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Kamahl Daikun
Hounds of War.
Hashashin Cartel
34
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Posted - 2014.11.18 19:15:47 -
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Nami Kumamato wrote:So in the end the general consensus is that he's a douche?
That's sexist.
A feminine hygiene product shouldn't be used as an insult.
Stop oppressing me.
Cisgender scum. |
ISD Dorrim Barstorlode
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
3479
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Posted - 2014.11.18 19:58:55 -
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Jvpiter wrote:Did we get Ezwaled?
Serious question, guys.
E: I'm out of here. If anyone asks, I don't know you guys.
If a member of CCL removes posts, there will always be a message saying "posts were removed for x reason."
I'm not going to be removing any posts though, I'm just here to close the thread.
Quote:23. Post constructively.
Negative feedback can be very useful to further improve EVE Online provided that it is presented in a civil and factual manner. All users are encouraged to honestly express their feelings regarding EVE Online and how it can be improved. Posts that are non-constructive, insulting or in breach of the rules will be deleted regardless of how valid the ideas behind them may be. Users are also reminded that posting with a lack of content also constitutes non-constructive posting.
Good night, thread.
ISD Dorrim Barstorlode
Captain
Community Communication Liaisons (CCLs)
Interstellar Services Department
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