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IbanezLaney
The Church of Awesome Caldari State Capturing
1299
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Posted - 2014.11.28 04:24:21 -
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Oreb Wing wrote:X Gallentius wrote:Andreus Ixiris wrote:Well, to be honest, given that the Caldari militia benefited off of outright exploiting for the first three years of FW's existence, getting curbstomped is kind of what they deserve. I think this is a bit much. They used the rules to their advantage as much as they could. Exploit? Not really. Ithink using mission bombers to cloak on a plex and have the timer still run is, if not an unintended feature (therefore an exploit), then it is bending the mechanicsso much to their favor that you can jump through the rule without having to cross over it. Not only that, they seem to love bringing up the fact of how long they held WZ control by doing this.
And you really believe that the Gallente didn't do that stuff as much as any other Militia?
Docked since 2009.
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IbanezLaney
The Church of Awesome Caldari State Capturing
1299
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Posted - 2014.11.28 04:25:10 -
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X Gallentius wrote:Look fellas. What we can't afford is ANOTHER Caldari Civil War. Please direct your hatred towards members of my militia and not at each other.
But we GÖÑ you all too much.
Docked since 2009.
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Oreb Wing
Windrammers Bohica Empire
46
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Posted - 2014.11.28 05:05:37 -
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IbanezLaney wrote:Oreb Wing wrote:X Gallentius wrote:Andreus Ixiris wrote:Well, to be honest, given that the Caldari militia benefited off of outright exploiting for the first three years of FW's existence, getting curbstomped is kind of what they deserve. I think this is a bit much. They used the rules to their advantage as much as they could. Exploit? Not really. Ithink using mission bombers to cloak on a plex and have the timer still run is, if not an unintended feature (therefore an exploit), then it is bending the mechanicsso much to their favor that you can jump through the rule without having to cross over it. Not only that, they seem to love bringing up the fact of how long they held WZ control by doing this. And you really believe that the Gallente didn't do that stuff as much as any other Militia?
I joined the war pre-Inferno, something I attempted to do back in Apocrypha (but there was the standing requirements that denied me after the tutorials).
I can still tell you what I can confirm, which is that the missions for us have not changed. I can then surmise that bombing around the warzone would serve half the purpose/usefulness that they played in Calmil - thus not creating a big enough incentive to use a bomber to begin with, but anything with an empty high slot.
Today, bombers in Galmil serve an even smaller role, and that discussion can go on for days if we discuss how it affects other factions. I shall refer you to my other thread for that.
My conclusion: Come and take it now bru! \o/ |
IbanezLaney
The Church of Awesome Caldari State Capturing
1299
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Posted - 2014.11.28 05:56:41 -
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Oreb Wing wrote:IbanezLaney wrote:Oreb Wing wrote:X Gallentius wrote:Andreus Ixiris wrote:Well, to be honest, given that the Caldari militia benefited off of outright exploiting for the first three years of FW's existence, getting curbstomped is kind of what they deserve. I think this is a bit much. They used the rules to their advantage as much as they could. Exploit? Not really. Ithink using mission bombers to cloak on a plex and have the timer still run is, if not an unintended feature (therefore an exploit), then it is bending the mechanicsso much to their favor that you can jump through the rule without having to cross over it. Not only that, they seem to love bringing up the fact of how long they held WZ control by doing this. And you really believe that the Gallente didn't do that stuff as much as any other Militia? I joined the war pre-Inferno, something I attempted to do back in Apocrypha (but there was the standing requirements that denied me after the tutorials). I can still tell you what I can confirm, which is that the missions for us have not changed. I can then surmise that bombing around the warzone would serve half the purpose/usefulness that they played in Calmil - thus not creating a big enough incentive to use a bomber to begin with, but anything with an empty high slot. Today, bombers in Galmil serve an even smaller role, and that discussion can go on for days if we discuss how it affects other factions. I shall refer you to my other thread for that. My conclusion: Come and take it now bru! \o/
It is a common theme in FW that one side acts all high and mighty while everyone is actually using the same tactics.
Examples: The Gallente complain about farming alts while running farming alts. The Gallente complain about boosts while using boosts. The Gallente complain about Stealth Bombers running missions while using Stealth Bombers to run missions. The Gallente complain about no fights when they only take fights with 3x numbers in the next ship class up. The Gallente complain about having to change their API keys while we simply have alts in Galmil to get mails.........
My conclusion: Everyone is a bad. Including me. Including you.
Docked since 2009.
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Oreb Wing
Windrammers Bohica Empire
46
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Posted - 2014.11.28 06:17:21 -
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Can't solo Galmil missions in a SB bro. Just to clear that one up. The rest may be true. I still die to blobs more often than I blob, but that is just me being bad. |
Epikurus
The Mjolnir Bloc The Bloc
48
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Posted - 2014.11.28 09:54:47 -
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Moglarr wrote:I'm willing to stand corrected, I meant no offense Epikurus. I quickly looked over the kills on the KB for Bloc, trying to find any signs of fleet kills so I was looking for kills that happened within a minute or two of each other. I quickly checked the 26th and the 25th (I only mention this because you linked a kill from the 24th) I was simply pointing out most of the kills I saw had less than 10 pilots, and none happened within a minute or two of each other. Which implies to me that there is a decent amount of small gang activity.
No probs mate. We've had a bit of an uptick in solo and small gang stuff the last few days with the addition of some new corps and regular (small) AU tz fleets running out on top of our normal EU and US roams. It's a positive development for us but our bread and butter is still medium size roams, which we send out at least twice a day every day. However, the more we can embed the very small gang and solo work and spread that experience and knowledge around the better, as it's something we have been lacking in the past. |
IbanezLaney
The Church of Awesome Caldari State Capturing
1300
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Posted - 2014.11.28 10:13:26 -
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Oreb Wing wrote:Can't solo , but that is just me being bad.
Now you are getting it.
Glad I could help.
Docked since 2009.
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The Drunken Taoist
The Church of Awesome Caldari State Capturing
5
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Posted - 2014.11.28 10:16:24 -
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Epikurus wrote:Moglarr wrote:I'm willing to stand corrected, I meant no offense Epikurus. I quickly looked over the kills on the KB for Bloc, trying to find any signs of fleet kills so I was looking for kills that happened within a minute or two of each other. I quickly checked the 26th and the 25th (I only mention this because you linked a kill from the 24th) I was simply pointing out most of the kills I saw had less than 10 pilots, and none happened within a minute or two of each other. Which implies to me that there is a decent amount of small gang activity. No probs mate. We've had a bit of an uptick in solo and small gang stuff the last few days with the addition of some new corps and regular (small) AU tz fleets running out on top of our normal EU and US roams. It's a positive development for us but our bread and butter is still medium size roams, which we send out at least twice a day every day. However, the more we can embed the very small gang and solo work and spread that experience and knowledge around the better, as it's something we have been lacking in the past.
Solo/small gang?! That's where its at!! |
Silverbackyererse
The Church of Awesome Caldari State Capturing
91
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Posted - 2014.11.28 11:05:01 -
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The Drunken Taoist wrote:
Solo/small gang?! That's where its at!!
Join the Church today. Salvation is only a clicky or two away! |
Oreb Wing
Windrammers Bohica Empire
46
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Posted - 2014.11.28 12:54:20 -
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IbanezLaney wrote:Oreb Wing wrote:Can't solo , but that is just me being bad. Now you are getting it. Glad I could help.
Lol. Get your brothers out of the t1 slump, then maybe your insults will have more weight. 'Til then, the kilt raising and helicoptering shall proceed as normal. The only question relevant atm is clockwise or counter. #swinging
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IbanezLaney
The Church of Awesome Caldari State Capturing
1302
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Posted - 2014.11.28 14:04:28 -
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Oreb Wing wrote:IbanezLaney wrote:Oreb Wing wrote:Can't solo , but that is just me being bad. Now you are getting it. Glad I could help. 'Til then, the kilt raising and helicoptering shall proceed as normal. The only question relevant atm is clockwise or counter. #swinging
Do you realize that you're saying that you wear a skirt and touch yourself while doing so?
Try thinking before you post man.
Docked since 2009.
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Oreb Wing
Windrammers Bohica Empire
46
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Posted - 2014.11.28 15:12:24 -
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No hands, bro. Use your imagination. My hands are busy holding, and also waving, my gallente checkered greatness.
If you are offering your services as a free hand, please put a contract up in Black Rise. |
X Gallentius
Justified Chaos Spaceship Bebop
2653
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Posted - 2014.11.28 15:50:52 -
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IbanezLaney wrote:The Gallente complain..... We only complain because you haven't joined our alliance yet. We'll have your back - and we have enough alts to take care of that standings thing too (not that you don't).
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Kira Distler
Windrammers Bohica Empire
3
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Posted - 2014.11.28 17:58:22 -
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Jeez, if squids actually spent as much time fighting as they do with these forum-post psycho therapy sessions where we all talk about mommy and daddy and what the definition of "is" is, we might actually have a decent fight. Pretty sure you guys have spent more time explaining rhetoric on here than you've actually been undocked in the last two weeks. |
Oreb Wing
Windrammers Bohica Empire
46
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Posted - 2014.11.28 20:12:15 -
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::whoosh:: ::whoosh:: ::whoosh:: |
greg01
Inglorious-Basterds Caldari State Capturing
37
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Posted - 2014.11.29 06:56:32 -
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I see the BS Comedy rages on... This time from Bohica. 2 mins in faction warfare and they know everything. No wonder you're starting to lose the war zone. Oh wait, I stand corrected. War zone control nothing to do with Bohica. It's just farmers are moving around again. |
SmokinJs Arthie
Justified Chaos Spaceship Bebop
77
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Posted - 2014.11.29 07:12:29 -
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So how did it feel to kiss Snuff Box's rings? |
Dread Operative
Snuff Box Snuffed Out
383
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Posted - 2014.11.29 09:43:25 -
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IbanezLaney wrote:The Gallente complain about having to change their API keys while we simply have alts in Galmil to get mails.........
"Hey guys, I'm in their fleet." best words ever. Getting the alts into corps is easy, it was bypassing the TS3 ban that was hard! But now I have most Bohica's booster safes so that's nice. \o/
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Silverbackyererse
The Church of Awesome Caldari State Capturing
91
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Posted - 2014.11.29 09:45:32 -
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greg01 wrote:I see the BS Comedy rages on... This time from Bohica. 2 mins in faction warfare and they know everything. No wonder you're starting to lose the war zone. Oh wait, I stand corrected. War zone control nothing to do with Bohica. It's just Gallente alt Amarr farmers are moving around again.
Fixed for truth and justice Greg.
Our Church is open to all our misguided Gallente brothers. We won't poop on our own doorsteps and take advantage of you. Salvation is only a click or two away. Join today!
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ALUCARD 1208
Spiritus Draconis
386
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Posted - 2014.11.29 11:08:37 -
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There FTFY
Please it would be a feat if u had say a spai in a major organization
with snuffs isk/playerbase should be able to do it without.... glad ur not too pridefull to admit you couldn't adapt and resorted to spaiing
GÖÑ HIGH FIVES GÖÑ-á
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Capitol One
Snuff Box Snuffed Out
173
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Posted - 2014.11.29 13:05:56 -
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ALUCARD 1208 wrote:There FTFY Please it would be a feat if u had say a spai in a major organization with snuffs isk/playerbase should be able to do it without....
Spying is just a part of the game, like griffins :) |
Irya Boone
Never Surrender.
413
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Posted - 2014.11.29 13:25:22 -
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poor calmil being milked like cows .. you don't understand galmil let you have some stations in the warzone for their own amusement :(
i'm sad for you; deeply sad indeed
CCP it's time to remove Off Grid Boost and Put Them on Killmail too, add Logi on killmails
.... Open that damn door !!
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X Gallentius
Justified Chaos Spaceship Bebop
2654
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Posted - 2014.11.29 13:39:31 -
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Crosi Wesdo wrote:Except i didnt say cal mil needed their hands holding to gain a victory, i literally said they needed their hands holding to form a fighting fleet rather than an evasive camping / ganking one.
Hey let's get back to this post right here. Anybody care to comment now?
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Thanatos Marathon
Phoibe Enterprises
363
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Posted - 2014.11.29 17:19:50 -
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X Gallentius wrote:Crosi Wesdo wrote:Except i didnt say cal mil needed their hands holding to gain a victory, i literally said they needed their hands holding to form a fighting fleet rather than an evasive camping / ganking one.
Hey let's get back to this post right here. Anybody care to comment now?
Still sounds correct. |
Crosi Wesdo
War and Order
1194
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Posted - 2014.11.29 17:21:53 -
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X Gallentius wrote:Crosi Wesdo wrote:Except i didnt say cal mil needed their hands holding to gain a victory, i literally said they needed their hands holding to form a fighting fleet rather than an evasive camping / ganking one.
Hey let's get back to this post right here. Anybody care to comment now?
Why what happened?
You arnt referring to The Battle of Raihbaka are you? |
Moglarr
Caldari Colonial Defense Ministry Templis CALSF
24
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Posted - 2014.11.29 18:32:16 -
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Crosi Wesdo wrote:X Gallentius wrote:Crosi Wesdo wrote:Except i didnt say cal mil needed their hands holding to gain a victory, i literally said they needed their hands holding to form a fighting fleet rather than an evasive camping / ganking one.
Hey let's get back to this post right here. Anybody care to comment now? Why what happened? You arnt referring to The Battle of Raihbaka are you?
Well that is Embarrassing. Good job evading our honourable lord Duffo.
Those kills weren't all at once though, that was over the course of an hour. A couple of these kills were 5 minutes apart, is that because dudes just kept derping into the plex or does it really take 5 minutes for a Garmur to kill something? Or was this more of a series of small gangs that stumbled into you and died? |
Crosi Wesdo
War and Order
1194
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Posted - 2014.11.29 19:29:41 -
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Moglarr wrote:Crosi Wesdo wrote:X Gallentius wrote:Crosi Wesdo wrote:Except i didnt say cal mil needed their hands holding to gain a victory, i literally said they needed their hands holding to form a fighting fleet rather than an evasive camping / ganking one.
Hey let's get back to this post right here. Anybody care to comment now? Why what happened? You arnt referring to The Battle of Raihbaka are you? Well that is Embarrassing. Good job evading our honourable lord Duffo. Those kills weren't all at once though, that was over the course of an hour. A couple of these kills were 5 minutes apart, is that because dudes just kept derping into the plex or does it really take 5 minutes for a Garmur to kill something? Or was this more of a series of small gangs that stumbled into you and died?
Started vs. hb, tristan and atron. then 2 garmurs, only got one (though did get another later, 3rd slipped out of my grasp). largest engagement was caracal 3 griffins maulus garmur various other t1 frigates and dessies. That is if you dont count the last few kills i took on the hub where they had a drake, naga, talos, various bombers, 3 moros and whatever it was i killed + whatever ran away earlier.
As for the time it took to rack up kills, thing is when you are tripple damped and jammed by 3 griffins, you have to position yourself so auto targets hit your desired mark. So there was a lot of volleys that just hit things like a caracal which would have been the last primary.
And no, they didnt warp into me once, i warped into them every single time.
Shame we lost the system, but my biggest disappointment was having to pop a shiny garmur wreck since it was inside missile range of a crapacal :( |
Epikurus
The Mjolnir Bloc The Bloc
48
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Posted - 2014.11.29 23:29:24 -
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That's pretty spectacular work whatever side you're looking at it from |
Rain Amekage
Wayward Chickens
3
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Posted - 2014.12.01 16:25:43 -
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So, I learned something interesting while trying to grab complex's from Caldari systems. Justified Chaos seems to have some great love for people who do that. Maybe that's why so many Thorax's are used. Seems to be "hard" work for them.
Scenario: ((*CalMil pilot rushes to the Medium, spamming D-Scan. Gets halfway through the timer and feels safe.*
*JC pilots waited, let the CalMil guy get comfortable, warps in with 3 or more buddies. They proceed to beat the crap out of the CalMil pilot. As the pilot warps away in their pod. One or more of the JC pilots flip a switch and turn on their loud-speakers, and recite the phrase. "WRONG F**KING NEIGHBORHOOD" ))
Yeah, happened to me a lot. It's why I'm in WH's now.
"Remember the sacrifices made, and die upon a mountain of your enemies."
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Crosi Wesdo
War and Order
1196
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Posted - 2014.12.01 16:41:51 -
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Rain Amekage wrote:Gets halfway through the timer and feels safe
I too look forward to that half way mark where its safe to stop d-scanning. |
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