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Shiv Katall Minmatar Ars Caelestis Ascendant Frontier	Posted - 2006.08.30 07:06:00 - [1] I am not of the Republic Parliament nor do I speak for them. I know there is those within the Parliament that feel as I do and have done as I have. My father was a Brutor Defiant and my time in captivity gave me the eye disease. It was out of respect for him that I have not had the surgery to correct my vision. Malaetu Shakor felt the same and became a great individual to our cause. I understand what he felt and I hope that Malaetu Shakor still remembers the cause for which he had fought for. I hope that he can bring the Parliament into agreement to commit the Fleet and the Republic Security Services to our cause. As I have said, even without their help, I will fight and I pray that all Minmatari rise up to take arms in whatever fashion they can contribute and end the slavery of our people. I ask those that are living within The Federations space to return home and begin helping our fighters with every necessity they need to prepare and eventually carry out their missions and to make our society better and stronger than it has ever been.. Even within the Amarr Empire there are its own citizens that do not practice nor agree with the Empires policy. Now is your chance to do something about and voice your opinion. Corporations dedicated to our cause should cease all trade with the Amarr and begin preparing its pilots for the day that is to come. We will bring warfare to the Amarrs like they have never seen before. Even if we must become our own faction to do it. Our time is approaching, the Amarrs is ending. Blood for blood. Release all slaves and save face with the other empires or allow us to end it for you. Blood for blood.
Shiv Katall Minmatar Ars Caelestis Ascendant Frontier	Posted - 2006.08.30 07:06:00 - [2] I direct this message to the citizens of the Amarr Empire, to the royal families, and to those still enslaved within and outside of any Amarr territory. For centuries you have held the Matari captive. You have subjugated them to torture for amusement. You force harsh living conditions that claim thousands of lives. You control only with the lethal Vitoc drug and the slavers. While those captive have become to depend on Vitoc to stay alive, the same has to be said of the Amarr Empire. You need my captive brothers and sisters for your empire to retain itself militarily and most importantly monetarily. Without us you would collapse in on yourselves. We realize this and I am sure the Five Heirs do as well. Not long ago many of our people rose up and cast you down. We stripped away the mantle of slavery and reformed our empire. To the Amarrs, you can be defeated. You have been by the Gallente when you tried to subjugate their worlds. You were dealt a devastating blow by the JovianÆs when you thought you could take them on. Then The Rebellion came and you lost more. You will be defeated again and again. As long as it takes to free the last of ours, you will be fought against. The Matari will rise up again. Our fleets have been growing. Our people are determined. We have regained much that was lost in our time of captivity to you. We will not stand for your cruel reign for much longer. We give you this one last chance to release ALL persons that you hold in slavery against their Will. In the near future may it be tomorrow or six months from now, if The Heirs have not released all those that are slaves you will face the might of the Minmatar capsule pilots. We will fight you without the aid of the Republic itself if we must. We will take one system at a time to release our brethren from your chains. We will die a thousand deaths but continue to come back. We will be like your slaver hounds that do not give up once they have the smell of their hapless victim that they are hunting. The end of your empire as you know it is drawing to an end. To all true Matari I ask that you prepare yourselves for this battle for that is what it will surely come to. Train yourselves harder every day. Prepare your ships and crew. Stockpile your weapons and ammunition and pray that it will spill the blood twice fold of what has been spilled at the hands of the Amarr.
Rodj Blake Amarr PIE Inc.	Posted - 2006.08.30 07:14:00 - [3] No. Dulce et decorum est, pro imperator mori
General Apocalypse	Posted - 2006.08.30 07:15:00 - [4] Are you speaking in the name of your aliance ?
Ethidium Bromide ZEALOT WARRIORS AGAINST TERRORISTS Curatores Veritatis Alliance	Posted - 2006.08.30 08:31:00 - [5] Originally by: Shiv Katall rabble, rabble rabble, rabble rabble rabble! Ethidium Bromide wipes tears of laughing from his face and takes on a serious expression The plebs have no idea what they speak of, again. Your demands are not only preposterous but also show that you have yet to understand what slavery stands for. Other than that i can just repeat what Vice Admiral Rodj Blake allready said : NO Originally by: George Petsch Nochricht: Dei schwarer StroinlSser trifftn Karli[Baatzis] und ruiniert erm so richtig de Dosn, 1343.7 schhodn, oida.
Michiyo Daishi Royal Knights of Khanid	Posted - 2006.08.30 08:37:00 - [6] Whilst I have no qualms nor favors regarding Mimmatar, I prefer the status quo, and as such, it points to an answer. A negative answer. I'm sorry, but thats how the status quo regards this display of will. - want a sig like mine? 5m!
Rakatan Ronala Minmatar	Posted - 2006.08.30 08:37:00 - [7] If Amarr you are so superior why cant you do simple manual labor youreself then?Why is it that youre view on other races is both stupid,and shortsighted,when youre supposed to have great wisdom?I dont know about you,but il liberate every slave i can get my hands on until you serve youreself,grow youre own damn crops and alot more of that work. You have one messed up culture.
Rodj Blake Amarr PIE Inc.	Posted - 2006.08.30 10:15:00 - [8] Originally by: Rakatan Ronala Edited by: Rakatan Ronala on 30/08/2006 08:38:24 If you Amarr are so superior why cant you do simple manual labor youreself then?Why is it that youre view on other races is both stupid,and shortsighted,when youre supposed to have great wisdom?I dont know about you,but il liberate every slave i can get my hands on until you serve youreself,grow youre own damn crops and alot more of that work. You have one messed up culture. Hard work is good for the soul. By generously giving our slaves the opportunity to work hard, we are helping them get closer to God. Dulce et decorum est, pro imperator mori
Rakatan Ronala Minmatar	Posted - 2006.08.30 10:57:00 - [9] If we want to work hard we can find hard work oureselfes,we dont need you or youre terrible methods to give us that,let us be already. And another thing:I dont want to get closer to this god of yours,in fact,i want to get as far away from it as possible!And i doubt im the only one.
Jim Hawkins Amarr Viziam	Posted - 2006.08.30 12:23:00 - [10] "Leave us alone, we don't want it!" You sound like a child refusing its medicine. Well, as bitter as the medicine may be, it is for your own good in the end and you would do well to remember that.
Rakatan Ronala Minmatar	Posted - 2006.08.30 12:33:00 - [11] Edited by: Rakatan Ronala on 30/08/2006 12:33:17 No good comes out of this,dont even try to tell me you do it for the slaves,they are left with no choiche,if its for there own good why not let them choose? And please,what good comes out of it other then the god nonsense?
Rodj Blake Amarr PIE Inc.	Posted - 2006.08.30 12:39:00 - [12] Originally by: Rakatan Ronala Edited by: Rakatan Ronala on 30/08/2006 12:33:17 No good comes out of this,dont even try to tell me you do it for the slaves,they are left with no choiche,if its for there own good why not let them choose? And please,what good comes out of it other then the god nonsense? Would you let a child choose his own bedtime? Would you let that same child eat chocolate all day long instead of his greens? By turning away from God, Minmatars have shown that they are unable to take decisions, ansd so require our guidance. Dulce et decorum est, pro imperator mori
Rakatan Ronala Minmatar	Posted - 2006.08.30 12:45:00 - [13] Minmatars can decide just fine,we are not children!You cannot force a religion upon someone either. And just stop pretending you care,the only reason you realy want slaves is to do the work you are obviously incapable of doing,and those practices make me think you follow a devil,not a god. Now until this god gets down here to tell us we need help i dont think he exists,and until you leave the minmatars alone you will be evil in alot of eyes.
Ethidium Bromide ZEALOT WARRIORS AGAINST TERRORISTS Curatores Veritatis Alliance	Posted - 2006.08.30 12:50:00 - [14] Originally by: Rakatan Ronala Minmatars can decide just fine,we are not children!You cannot force a religion upon someone either. And just stop pretending you care,the only reason you realy want slaves is to do the work you are obviously incapable of doing,and those practices make me think you follow a devil,not a god. Now until this god gets down here to tell us we need help i dont think he exists,and until you leave the minmatars alone you will be evil in alot of eyes. they are basicly doing rather useless work most of the time machines could handle aswell and even for less cost. the fact we do have them working is that we want to give them chance to reach a state amarrs are allready born at through the simpley 'ora et labora' principle. Originally by: George Petsch Nochricht: Dei schwarer StroinlSser trifftn Karli[Baatzis] und ruiniert erm so richtig de Dosn, 1343.7 schhodn, oida.
Amira Silvermist Ubiqua Seraph Aegis Militia	Posted - 2006.08.30 12:51:00 - [15] Originally by: Rakatan Ronala If we want to work hard we can find hard work oureselfes Ah, that probably the reason why so many of you leave their kin behind and flee to the next Gallente drug hole...
Rakatan Ronala Minmatar	Posted - 2006.08.30 12:57:00 - [16] Please,there is more to the Gallente federation then simply drugs. And what makes you think they WANT anything you have to offer in exchanghe for their service as slaves?
Rodj Blake Amarr PIE Inc.	Posted - 2006.08.30 13:04:00 - [17] Originally by: Rakatan Ronala Please,there is more to the Gallente federation then simply drugs. And what makes you think they WANT anything you have to offer in exchanghe for their service as slaves? Just because thay don't want something, it doesn't automatically follow that they don't need it. Dulce et decorum est, pro imperator mori
Rakatan Ronala Minmatar	Posted - 2006.08.30 13:06:00 - [18] And just what makes you think we need it then?Many Minmatar have gotton by just fine without you interfering,The Minmatar can take care of themselfes just fine and if youd care about them youd release them,if you dont care then its going to happen the hard way.
Rodj Blake Amarr PIE Inc.	Posted - 2006.08.30 13:16:00 - [19] Originally by: Rakatan Ronala And just what makes you think we need it then?Many Minmatar have gotton by just fine without you interfering,The Minmatar can take care of themselfes just fine and if youd care about them youd release them,if you dont care then its going to happen the hard way. Gotten by just fine? Have you taken a look at the squalid queues of unemployed Minmatars in the Republic and Federation? Dulce et decorum est, pro imperator mori
Rakatan Ronala Minmatar	Posted - 2006.08.30 13:19:00 - [20] They will manage,if they dont they can always come crawling back to you. If its their choiche i wont have any objections,but the moment you enslave others against their will you are asking to have guns pointed at you. I dont understand you,i never will,but i do understand that slavery is a very whrong thing,and no decent society should embrace it,its inexusable.
Ethidium Bromide ZEALOT WARRIORS AGAINST TERRORISTS Curatores Veritatis Alliance	Posted - 2006.08.30 13:19:00 - [21] Originally by: Rakatan Ronala And just what makes you think we need it then?Many Minmatar have gotton by just fine without you interfering,The Minmatar can take care of themselfes just fine and if youd care about them youd release them,if you dont care then its going to happen the hard way. If it wasn't for Amarr the minmatar would still be climbing trees and only dream of duct tape! Originally by: George Petsch Nochricht: Dei schwarer StroinlSser trifftn Karli[Baatzis] und ruiniert erm so richtig de Dosn, 1343.7 schhodn, oida.
Rodj Blake Amarr PIE Inc.	Posted - 2006.08.30 13:24:00 - [22] Originally by: Rakatan Ronala They will manage,if they dont they can always come crawling back to you. If its their choiche i wont have any objections,but the moment you enslave others against their will you are asking to have guns pointed at you. I dont understand you,i never will,but i do understand that slavery is a very whrong thing,and no decent society should embrace it,its inexusable. Do you consider giving the ignorant an education to be wrong? Do you consider giving the unemployed a meaningful job something that no decent society should embrace? Do you consider feeding the hungry to be inexcusable? Because slavery does all of these things and more. Dulce et decorum est, pro imperator mori
Rakatan Ronala Minmatar	Posted - 2006.08.30 13:27:00 - [23] The more including pain,suffering and never being able to rise above the poverty that is being a slave,no thanks! Like i said if slavery is so good why not let them choose?You have no right to decide the fate of other races,Education should be given by teachers,not other children.
Drakolus Amarr Free Industries Union	Posted - 2006.08.30 14:01:00 - [24] Before you go declaring genocide upon all of Amarrian origin realize that some are on your side. I was once a slaver, an oppressor and I was content in my power. It took another breaking my world apart, enslaving those I cared about and destroying my family, business and life for me to realize the travesty and sin that is slavery. Like many others, I have finally realized the evil that corrupts the Amarrian empire from within. The Emperor is NOT a God, he is a man prone to all of the fallacies that entails. Slavery is NOT right; it is merely the strong dominating the weak and thus growing weaker in the end. I say all of this because there are those who have repented. There are Amarrians and Ni-kunni such as myself who are opposed to slavery...violently so. I have lost my fortune, my family and my future but I have gained so much. I now have a purpose and a cause. I fight against slavery and I fight to free those who are enslaved. Most of my fight has been economic so far but I have been training for the future. I was once an industrialist and a trader...now I am a weapon against Tyranny. And no...this message does not represent the thoughts, feelings and/or actions of my Corporation, it is just me, trying to remind people that not all fit into convenient stereotypes. Molden Heath Local #473
Rakatan Ronala Minmatar	Posted - 2006.08.30 14:05:00 - [25] Well then i apologize,i had feared no Amarr would see the error of their ways..its good to see.
Shiv Katall Minmatar Ars Caelestis Ascendant Frontier	Posted - 2006.08.30 16:37:00 - [26] Of course I do not speak for the corporation in which I am employed. I speak for those slaves that are not allowed a voice. This message is to the citizens so that they know that warning has been given to the slavers. Drakolus is not the only one that has realized how wrong slavery is. Sadly he had to go thru his own personal hell to see how badly it is.. I truely feel sorry for him. Their are others within the Amarr Empire that have realized this for what it is. The Amarr Empire in its current state of affairs could not function without those it holds in slavery. It would create an economic collapse that would set them back for years. If the current captives rose up in a second rebillion it would only remind the Amarr of the losses hey have faced against the first and their other failed attempts to obtain more slaves from the other empires. Do not think yourselves almighty. We have seen your forces thrown back. Once we had a beautiful empire until the Amarr came. Now we are rebuilding what was lost and making new. Scorn and laugh at us with our ships if you must, but remember that our missles hit just as hard as yours and our projectile ammo will leave devestating holes in your ships. Our technology is only going to improve with new ships that every Amarr slave holder will fear. Do not take my words lightly. Do prepare yourselves for we will be coming across many fronts.
Rakatan Ronala Minmatar	Posted - 2006.08.30 17:05:00 - [27] Though id like to wipe the Amarr and there slavers out aswell...sadly i have to admit that we are in no state for war wit the Amarr..we would likely lose.. A sad but true fact.
Luric Vizjier The Legion of Spoon Curatores Veritatis Alliance	Posted - 2006.08.30 17:30:00 - [28] Vitoc, I think most of you do not understand its purpose. Allow me to explain. Not all, and by which I mean a good 75% of slaves which are traded through legal markets, are worked nearly as hard or treated as poorly as you suggest. Most are given ample shelter, food, and education as well as a clean environment to even possibly raise a family. Slaves very often lead lives similar to that of a common Amarrian, just under someone's watchful eye. The problem is that you believe all Amarrians are "on the high-horse" types with bundles of riches while their slaves live in shacks and are beaten daily. I fail to see how an entire society, of hundreds of billions, can all fit this archetype. There are in fact farmers, industry workers, and more among us. And to the commoner who may only have a single slave or two, generally they live together under similar conditions, even under the same roof. And to the rich owner who has hundreds if not thousands, slaves are kept living within apartment complexes often which include many amenities a commoner on land may never even see. Now, Vitoc, as I'm sure you understand, is a method of insurance; rarely actually used to invoke fear in slaves except by the worst of society. And, while it can be an effective method of control, it is much more of an insurance policy against terrorists like yourself. Considering you probably have an explicit idea of how Vitoc works, you may now understand why it is we use it. Amarrians do not enjoy losing their assets, and so death by Vitoc is a fitting punishment for any terrorist to watch. Understand now? Good. -----------------------------------------------
Shiv Katall Minmatar Ars Caelestis Ascendant Frontier	Posted - 2006.08.30 17:31:00 - [29] With a mentality like that, no army would ever win a fight. There have been many battles thru history in which out numbered armiesÆ waged wars and come out victorious. One must go into the fight with high morale and fight with everything that they have. Yes we will have losses and very possibly a great number, but we must remain steadfast in our goals. If the Amarr Empire will not release those they hold captive willingly than we take the price in their blood. We must help every one of ours become free and help contribute to making our Republic stronger. We must create jobs to increase our economies and raise our people from the poor lives they are facing. If you expect to lose a fight, then surely you will and only become a hindrance. Become stronger. Train yourself physically and mentally. We will win. Our people demand release and we must bring freedom to them.
Shiv Katall Minmatar Ars Caelestis Ascendant Frontier	Posted - 2006.08.30 17:34:00 - [30] Luric, say what you will in order to justify holding another against their will and make a pretty picture. It is still slavery. The fact that it may only be used on special occassions makes it no less wrong. Use it on yourself if you feel so good about it. Use it on your family and others of your empire. You hold my people against their will and that will not be allowed any longer.

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